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@Rob_230 and sony the ten years before that. Remember gta 3?

@Anthony_Daniels which of those franchises has turned out to be exclusive to xbox so far?

@Kevw2006 gta 3, gta vice city and gta san andreas say hi.

@Anthony_Daniels which franchise is now exclusive to xbox that wasn’t before?

So this developer is owned by Xbox, still a PS5 remaster?

Absolutely love the redesign of Cammy. (Edit: like everybody in the comments above me )

She will be my new main character. Looks fluid with the option of great combo’s. A bit (or a lot actually) like the redesign of Nina Williams from Tekken 8.

@nomither6 i would agree with that paragraph.

Such a shame Sony got rid of their Japan Studio. And that Quantic Dream got acquired by NetEase.

We can now tell what two types of games Sony will make for the next 10 years. Single player narative driven action games, and the occasional racing game. Oh, and MLB the show. That’s all I think. Not much variety.

Oh, and apparently 12 live service games. Joy…

@thedevilsjester so yeah, about the headline of this news post we can ask two things:

• what can be considered next-gen VR. Answer probably the PSVR2, while the Quest 2 can’t be considered next-gen.
• does Sony truly deliver it to the masses with a price tag of 1000 euros minimum? I don’t think so.

I think it will remain at the same attachment rate as psvr at that price and especially with the current and announced line-up of games (and rumoured reveals tomorrow) which was about 4-5%. Profitable, but not mass appeal.

Also, the Quest 3 is apparently coming at the end of this year, replacing Meta Quest 2 and priced around 400-500 euros with the same specs or comparable to psvr2 and meta quest pro. And probably backwards compatible.

I think I’ll wait out on the psvr2, see where that story goes. Unless Sony can convince me with something new and great other than racing and rhythm games (again), which I loved, don’t get me wrong, but won’t make me buy into a new system all over again…

@nomither6 have you been called a 10 year old already? . I unlocked that trophy today for saying that Sony does do scummy business with their timed exclusive deals which originates all the way back to the ps2 with GTA 3 for instance.

I asked which comment made me look like a 10 year old, no response. I’m probably on that ignore list too….

@thedevilsjester which games would you say it’s currently worth it for you to pay 500 euros for a psvr2? Honest question.

It’s so much money, doesn’t seem for the masses at all (yet).

@thedevilsjester depends what you’re looking for. The library of games of psvr2 is not compelling enough for me yet to pay 500 euro’s. Most games are also on the oculus quest 2 library of games for less money. And Sony so easily ditched the psvr that I’m going to play the waiting game. Last time I bought the psvr together with a friend to share but it never felt worth it to both of us. Played mainly beat saber and GT Sport but not much else worth mentioning.

Also, apparently you could buy the Valve Index if you really want high end graphics and features. Psvr2 is in between the two. I’ve never played a Valve Index though, also I don’t own a gaming pc so I wouldn’t know.

Perhaps below comparison from gamexplain can help you out.

https://youtu.be/i3TxAnKHBvs

@BrotherFilmriss this community is absolutely not tolerant towards Xbox . Try having a peak at the comment section when there’s anything about the activision-blizzard acquisition. People throwing blades of chaos and claws of Hades towards you whenever you say something bad about Sony.

Apparently that’s not allowed here.

Anyway, back on topic, I’ll definitely give this game a go since I love the Bioshock series and I hope this will give me a piece of that same vibe again. On gamepass. (No need to spend 60 euro’s on that game on my playstation, which is nice. If I love it I will buy it afterwards for the collection!).

@Flaming_Kaiser sony is worth twice what Microsoft is paying for Activision-Blizzard.

@gamer_since_83 could you point out which comment makes you think I’m a 10 year old?

@Mikey856 you do not need a pc for oculus quest 2. It’s completely standalone.

1000+ euro’s isn’t exactly something for the masses. Quest 2 is actually 500 euro’s cheaper.

Edit: No you do not need a pc for the Oculus Quest 2…. And quest 3 is coming at the end of this year with same specs as Sony’s psvr2 and for 400-500 euro. (No need for a ps5 or pc).

@gamer_since_83 you would think everyone commenting on this website is at least 10 years old.

But the story of GTA IV is that Microsoft actually had to pay R* to stop GTA IV from being exclusive to Sony’s platform, like all previous installments. All this timed exclusivity stuff is just bs.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-paid-75-million-to-stop-gtaiv-ps3-exclusivity/1100-6262370/

@gamer_since_83 ehm, no? Gta 3 was released on playstation 2 first, 2 years prior to being released on xbox. Same with San Andreas and Vice City. Xbox actually turned down the exclusivity deal R* proposed.

Call of Duty had a few timed exclusive maps on 360 and that was it.

Are you ‘old enough’ to remember this though? What’s up with the fanboyism-responses on this website…. Seriously.

Just last year alone Sony had 14 timed 3d party exclusives. Shows their studios can’t pull their weight on their own either, a criticism Xbox usually gets (but people don’t see Sony has very little exclusives of their own too). Sony buys their way to pull in players too. Only Nintendo and their secondary studios probably produce enough exclusives to keep a platform running on their own.

@naruball you’re only replying on the last part of my comment.

But yeah, does it matter? Blizzard was bought too when WoW was the biggest MMO in the world. Riot Games with League of Legends, the biggest esports game and one of the most profitable ip ever being bought by Tencent, all of those weren’t opposed. Apparently it didn’t and doesn’t matter how big an ip is.

And now only Sony is opposed to the deal out of all big players. I truly wonder why since they’re the market leader…

@Voltan I wouldn’t expect a different reply on a Sony fan website.

@Deoxyr1bose Maybe. But you can agree there’s an obvious pattern here. Why aren’t the other games that used pc or other systems around?

@Deoxyr1bose they said that two years ago, yes. It’s the standard corporate stuff that most people fall for.

However, all games are now being played on PS4, even the games that formerly were played on pc. And as we know, Sony doesn’t like cross-play, so that’s not a option anymore too. https://bleedingcool.com/games/evo-2023-announces-complete-eight-game-lineup/

And they’re creating their monopoly. Not there yet, but they will. I expect them to work out a deal to incorporate Capcom Cup within EVO in the next year or two, when live events will become the norm again.

@naruball the marketing rights for Call of Duty is the single thing Sony doesn’t want to lose via Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard. And for good reason.

It’s also the reason Sony doesn’t agree with the 10 years parity of all versions of Call of Duty deal.

Are you knowledgeable of what’s being discussed in court at all?

@RBMango no. Sony earned their place by releasing the Playstation which had disc functionality, and then playstation 2 which had dvd functionality. That’s the reason 3d parties went to them and away from Sega and Nintendo because they wanted to release games with cinematics which take up loads of space.

And next to that Sony still buys marketing rights and exclusives for these franchises. To keep these 3d parties on their platform.

Their ingame releases are almost all from companies / studios Sony bought over the years. Their CEO is from a company Sony bought. Tell me why Actiblizz should not be allowed to be bought.

So Sony is allowed to buy EVO and they’re increasing the price pool now to create a monopoly on fighting e-sports?

It’s a pity the organisation removed Super Smash from the tournament too. Guess air time of games on other platforms isn’t allowed anymore.

@GamingFan4Lyf amen.

Oh, here is Push Square again with the ‘nobody is stopping Microsoft from …’

Except it was Sony who did all the scummy licensing, marketing and limited time exclusive deals last generation. And they continue to do so (Street Fighter VI, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Tekken 8, Silent Hill games). All of these franchises will also release on Xbox, except maybe FF, but Sony is not allowing Xbox to market these games by buying the marketing rights for a couple million. Now tell me who has the more scummy business practices.

And Sony started with the buy-outs. Not Microsoft.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Sony

Also: Nintendolife and Pure Xbox seem a lot more respectful in their writing. There’s just a lot of Microsoft and Nintendo bashing in the articles here. And a lot of ‘we’re winning the console war guys!’ Unnecessary.

Weird Sony was allowed to buy this but looking forward to it!

I hope SF VI gets an appearance too maybe as a demo fight.

@TheLotteryMan1 do you remember the ‘we believe in generations’ sentence Jim Ryan told you?

This game is also coming to Game Pass

Such an awesome service for us consumers.

@uptownsoul it’s impossible to discuss with you because of the lack of simple logic in your comments and the lack of respect as well.

Enjoy your unnecessarily inflated attitude.

@uptownsoul you can say the same thing 100 times over.

You don’t know whether Jim is right or not because of one metric. And whether he’s right or wrong in all cases.

So your comment remains premature.

And a metric I could use against you would be that Microsoft is already making profit out of Game Pass while still investing a ton in it. We do not know how much but for all we know it could be more than Sony is making in 10 years. We just don’t know.

Ah well. I will keep on enjoying Game Pass next to a few playstation exclusives. I know I will never pay full price for any game as long as Game Pass exists, I can wait for a price drop or for the moment Sony puts their games into their subscription service because I already have so much to play if I want. You know Horizon Forbidden West is in PS Plus Extra from next week onwards, right? Did you pay full price for that one less than a year ago?

So with Xbox you get exclusives day and date. With Sony you have to either pay full price or wait a year. I know which service is best for the consumer.

@uptownsoul all of this still doesn’t mean Jimbo is right. Because we don’t have the whole picture.

And therefore your statement is premature.

3 weeks on the top of the charts and two games in the top 10 is domination now?

Ok. I know this is a fansite but this seems a bit ridicule.

@uptownsoul you read whatever you want to believe mate.

You draw way too easy conclusions with what Microsoft said in court because they want to seem small. ‘Less sales’ does not mean less money nor less attraction, exposure or double dipping of the franchise.

So we don’t know that Jimbo was right at all. You started with that speculation in your first post. And I corrected you with it.

1 is a number but not every number is 1. Logic.

@uptownsoul I say you can’t tell if it’s the right move or not. Because there are other factors and ways to make money than ‘sales’.

I don’t understand you don’t seem to understand this point I’m now constantly trying to make….

@uptownsoul https://www.purexbox.com/news/2023/02/xbox-game-pass-launches-enable-secure-success-says-indie-publisher

@uptownsoul you said:

‘Turns out Jimbo may have been right after all not to cannibalize his own software sales’ and you said ‘But all I've ever claimed is that there is a negative sales impact from Game Pass.’

And I said we do not have enough data yet … to conclude game pass isn’t working (ergo, that Jimbo is right). For all we know the check developers get from Xbox for putting a game on Game pass might exceed the otherwise made profit. And we do not know how much xbox makes from the subscribers of game pass.

So to conclude: We can’t know whether Jimbo is right or not. We lack the data.

@uptownsoul yeah, so that’s an average. Which makes sense….

You’re paying for the subscription after all…

Not every game is affected by it though.

@uptownsoul no, it claims that in cases it CAN lower sales. It’s a case by case basis. Not a given.

But those developers do get a big cheque op front too btw.

@Would_you_kindly that’s why I said many.

Also, game pass is on pc too, we don’t know those numbers either.

@uptownsoul this doesn’t mean adding a game to game pass is a bad business move for any party.

@4kgk2 no use arguing with you. You just twist and turn your arguments till it fits your narrative again.

@Jacko11 why would it? To the contrary. Sony is afraid the actiblizz deal kills them. Especially because of game pass. Apparently that’s not the case some people think.

@uptownsoul show me please.

And as I said, there aren’t many big exclusives on game pass yet.

@uptownsoul We do not have good data yet. Microsoft hasn’t put many big exclusives in game pass yet.

It CAN cannibalize. But it can also boost users and brand / serie awareness too….

Both are not a given…

@4kgk2 you haven’t seen anything from Spiderman 2 and Wolverine and Silent Hill 2 and Final Fantasy XVI aren’t made by Sony….?

@Green-Bandit having marketing rights is such a weird thing tbh. Sony has had the marketing rights for all capcom, square enix, konami, EA and Activision games, and now Hogwart’s Legacy too.

Feels so weird that Sony is allowed to say about those games ‘yeah, that game is ours, it’s coming out on our platform’ while Xbox has to remain quiet. While all games release on Xbox too, except for FFXVI and Silent Hill 2 remake.

I think that’s the most shady business practice stemming from the PS4 era.