Topic: The Movie Thread

@nessisonett "I know you can be underwhelmed and you can be overwhelmed, but can you ever just be whelmed?"...!

I have a soft spot for that genre also. We recently watched "10 Things I Hate About You".... equally classic IMO.

BTW - great recommend on Justified, now well into Season 2 which is perhaps one of my favorite seasons of TV ever (up there with Season 4 of the Wire, and Season 2 of Leftovers). The introduction of the Bennett Clan has been fantastic, and the plot threads are pretty gripping!

@CJD87 I’d say season 2 of Justified was up there with my favourite seasons of TV as well! You’ve still got some great seasons to come as well, it’s one of the few shows that I’d say finishes in a perfect place.

watched Mr Mom on Tubi last night. Still a classic funny movie. Sure its a little dumb but its better than Gung Ho

Oh dear Thor 4… what went wrong? I do quite enjoy Ragnarok but this felt like Taika Waititi has sniffed one too many of his own farts. Just a very odd movie with total shifts in tone, humour that doesn’t land and they somehow managed to bungle Natalie Portman for a 3rd movie. Waititi is clearly still talented, Our Flag Means Death proves this, but I wonder if it’s all gone a bit to his head with the whole ‘secretly marrying Rita Ora’ and phoning in very expensive movies while slagging off the VFX in interviews. Not good at all.

@LN78 Haha, I was hoping we would differ on this one!

@nessisonett And sometimes it is better to found out for yourself whether you like something or not.

@LN78 I quite liked Multiverse of Madness on second viewing but I can recognise that it’s definitely a flawed movie. Marvel have just hit a rough patch at least according to my tastes recently but I have been really enjoying She-Hulk so maybe they’ll grab me again in the future.

@LN78 People have different tastes though, and what you may think is crap others may like.

@LN78 No not really and I did not say thay, but I know what I like and couldn't care less what stuffy critics think of films, plus I like to be as open minded as possible before watching a film.

Yeah I think everyone has a few turds which they find highly enjoyable! 😂

@LN78 I would hold the view that objectivity does exist when it comes to art, but that those standards of objectivity are subjective. Yes, that sounds like nonsense but I reckon it’s similar to how different critics have different criteria. Like if I played a game then I would put graphics and gameplay fairly balanced in my criteria but others would maybe pay much more attention to gameplay. Some aspects are executed either well or not, it’s just up to us to decide how much that affects our view of the art.

@LN78 Yeah like take that new portrait of Obama for the White House.

It’s undoubtedly an incredibly well executed painting but that level of hyper realism lacks artistic flair for me. There’s something off about it being so perfect that it looks like a photograph. I’d take one of Monet’s paintings he did while half blind over that, despite the painting undoubtedly looking nothing like the subject. Like this is supposed to be a bridge.

Just watched Thor 4: By the Sea Shore again. Wicked film, much better on second viewing. I think some Marvel films need a second viewing really. Once you know what happens, you can really enjoy the ride.

I still wish Jane could have stuck around but maybe they will bring her (or a version of her) back for Secret Wars

@LN78 your Thorts on Thor Four are well documented LN!

@LN78 I remember back in 2011/2012 after Thor had came out but I think before The Dark World came out (I worked on that too). I was working on that Jack the Giant Slayer film as an extra and I was sitting down having lunch with a colleague, both of us dressed in those red soldier suits with the armour and everything.

We were discussing Thor and literally making tongue twisting jokes about Thor 4 becoming a thing even if neither of us truly believed it would go on to become a quadrilogy.

@LN78 I'm glad it did 👍. If it's any consolation to you, almost every filmmaker takes on a studio franchise at some point so no filmography is going to be perfect. Hell even Tarantino nearly made a Star Trek film. I'd still love to see it if he did though. Maybe he will do what he did for CSI instead and make a 2 part season finale for Strange New Worlds instead!

@LN78 not sure really, Thor has been the butt of the MCUs jokes for a long time and he fits the role well. I think the comedy in Ragnarok was awkward and while it was a bold new direction, it was jarring to say the least. I think L&T is better than Ragnarok but in watching it again today it reminded me (because of the stage play scene) that Hela was in Ragnarok and I freakin loved Cate Blanchett in the role.

Sadly, I think Thor is just better as a supporting character and basically has been since the first Avengers. The humour he's been imparted with is just not that funny when it's the focus instead of the foil. You are right that his most dramatic moments play well but they are few and far between in the MCU.

Maybe I just care more that each film offers that escapism which runs rampant with my emotions. I loved the powered up kids scene, it was epic, funny and emotional all at the same time, especially with the G'n'R backing music.

Thor is a "god" but he's not a particularly clever or quick thinking god so I doubt he thought to power up his avenging buddies with the power of Thor. Plus he is far too vain to share his powers and without suffering the loss that the blip afforded him, he would have never have let go of that vanity (even if he still wields a depressing toned down version of it in L&T to hide his true feelings) enough to admit that he needs help (for a limited time only).

I mean, I'm not going to convince you it's a good film and I don't particularly want to. The marvel films/TV shows are mostly a lot of fun and allow those of us who enjoy them to forget their dreary and depressing lives for a couple of hours. You know, before we have to go back to work, do the big shop, do chores until the sun goes down. Very few of them are food for thought beyond their fantastical yet relatable characters.

@LN78 same to you

watching House III aka Horror Show on Tubi right now tonight.

its pretty much the same as Destroyer and Shocker

Morbius (Netflix) - I actually thought this was pretty okay. It's certainly not the most unique CBM out there & pretty derivative, but it's also not the trainwreck I was expecting based on the memes. I think it may have been a bit more enjoyable had they been able to go a bit harder on the gruesome vampire stuff with an R-rating, but as a Spider-Man adjacent property there's no way that was ever going to happen.

Pinocchio (Disney+) - The new one. It certainly has the look & seems to carry the kind of polish you'd expect from a Disney production, but it just doesn't feel like it has any passion to it. Kinda started to tune out by the end (& did they need to change Monstro from a whale to a literal sea monster). My favorite part of it was probably all the little cuckoo clock cameos in the beginning of the film.