Topic: The Chit Chat Thread

@GirlVersusGame funnily enough kat is also a nickname I go by.
I guess I get the general gist of it.
Also the proper form is “4 minus 2” not “2 minus 4”, the latter yields a negative number.
I mean I was always the best at math but that feels weird to brag about cuz it was only high school math and nothing fancy; but from your words that seems a little, or maybe really above your weight class.
I’m definitely not against trying to teach you if you’re genuinely struggling with rudimentary math problems like this. I’ll just say that it isn’t really that complicated and some of it comes to down memorization-tricks as opposed to real logic problems.

Since you (supposedly) understand the logic for addition and subtraction, I’d say you’re the same as everyone else, more or less. Not understanding the methodology would be a genuine intelligence issue, but since you seem to have it down, the rest is all just memorization like I said.

The multiplication table for 9 would you have you constantly make one number go up and the other go down, so it would be 9 > 18 > 27 > 36 and so on.

Though i do wanna say I’m somewhat lost about the Pokémon correlation.

@Yousef- funnily enough kat is also a nickname I go by.

• For me it's short for katya, or yekaterina, so everyone just calls me kat. In English the closet would be katherine. Usually rocking a pair of cat ears reminds them too because kat sounds like cat.

I mean I was always the best at math but that feels weird to brag about cuz it was only high school math and nothing fancy; but from your words that seems a little, or maybe really above your weight class.

• Flaunt it if you got it, it's a funny brag, at least to me because I try not to dwell on it too much, but do work to improve those kinds of things.

I’m definitely not against trying to teach you if you’re genuinely struggling with rudimentary math problems like this. I’ll just say that it isn’t really that complicated and some of it comes to down memorization-tricks as opposed to real logic problems.

• It's okay I do have a Math Tutor, it's just very slow going. I only started recently, but I'm determined to get there. He's a good man with a lot of patience. The irony is that I have eight languages and two musical instruments learned, so it's not memory thankfully. And thank you for the offer, that's really kind.

I’d say you’re the same as everyone else, more or less.

• Sorry I laughed at that too, it's been a funny kind of evening, but I appreciate the sentiment.

Not understanding the methodology would be a genuine intelligence issue, but since you seem to have it down, the rest is all just memorization like I said.

• That's more or less where I'm moving towards at the moment, I do a little each day.

The multiplication table for 9 would you have you constantly make one number go up and the other go down, so it would be 9 > 18 > 27 > 36 and so on.

• I knew as far as eighteen, as in nine by two is eighteen, the rest, I'm not there yet. As in if you'd asked me in person what the answer was for eighteen plus eighteen, I'd have no idea. If you asked me what eighteen multiplied by eighteen was? I'd run away, I wouldn't even guess.

Though i do wanna say I’m somewhat lost about the Pokémon correlation.

• I mean I'd assume Math lessons in school were probably seen as boring to most children, so they'd probably have preferred to have been at home playing Pokemon instead. Sort of like if someone said 'you can learn numbers today, or you can play video-games', most children might say video-games.

@GirlVersusGame

“ you can learn numbers today, or you can play video-games', most children might say video-games.”

Why not both

The way I think of it is that one skillset seeps into the other. If you can handle basic math, it helps map out everyday hobbies too.
To revisit my previous point, here’s the 8 multiplication table. It’s 8>16>24>32>40>48>56>64>72>80>88>96>104
You can see the number on right going down by two, the one on the left always going up by one. It’s a pattern, and it also feels like mental Lego after a while.

@Yousef- You can see the number on right going down by two, the one on the left always going up by one. It’s a pattern, and it also feels like mental Lego after a while.

• That was sorcery, I did see the pattern when you described it like that. No one's ever described it like that before. I'll show it to my friend too, she helps from time to time.

Edit: She did see the pattern. I just out of the blue messaged her like 'do you see the pattern?', which actually sounds funny when you aren't expecting someone to say that. It probably looked a little bonkers.

The way I think of it is that one skillset seeps into the other. If you can handle basic math, it helps map out everyday hobbies too.

• Mostly I paint, ice skate, fence, martial arts (krav maga, more recently systema, a more personalized system of krav maga that focuses more on the person not getting back up again) play music, obviously game, a couple of other hobbies but I've only even needed numbers for gaming. Especially games with a trading system, after that it's just trying to figure it all for my Minecraft builds because it's an eight-year build so far and millions upon millions of blocks, I use Developer consoles too so understanding those inputs takes a really long time.

@GirlVersusGame virtually all of those hobbies you mentioned would still require some vague form of mental math, especially the sports ones.

Think of it like this, when you’re climbing stairs, you’re doing mental calculations in your head on how much you need to lift your knees. You may think that’s not happening until you switch to a different set of stairs with different levels of elevations.

Painting is almost also built entirely around math, if you look into the golden ratio, it is mathematical proof of “beauty” in nature.

The pattern trick I told you about also seeps into a lot of other things.
What’s 10 x 10? You may say a 100, but what if you didnt know that? How would you reach that conclusion? You simply take the zeroes, group then then multiply what’s left. So you take the two zeroes, multiply 1 by 1 then get a 100. Same logic is used for other larger additions. 240 times 20 is 4,800, because you take the two zeroes, then multiply 24 by 2, which is 48.

You can go even higher. 1,000 times 4,500 is 4,500,000 for the reasons I said before.

Then you get into addition tricks. What’s 45 plus 46? The answer is 91. Why? Because the 45 is missing a 5 to become 50, and the 46 is missing a 4. 5 plus 4 is 9, 50+50 is 100 and a 100 minus 9 is 91, and so on.

It just requires basic logic.

@Yousef- Painting is almost also built entirely around math, if you look into the golden ratio, it is mathematical proof of “beauty” in nature.

• True but I'm self-taught there too, there were no books involved, no anything really, I just opened up my heart and put each stroke to each canvas. I paint what I love and it just flows. It's the same with all of hobbies, skating is flight, fencing is form, music is an extension of my emotions, the martial arts I practice uses my opponents force against them it's reaction based because I don't instigate. Chess is pattern recognition but I was eight-years old when I started to learn and math was never involved, knowing and understanding each set and suit became second nature, no different than how a general understands the choke-points of terrain or the psychology of the enemy, after that it's simple execution. I understand chess because I understand those same military tactics and just apply them to the board. It's based on the tactical control, careful management and it negates the fog of war, which again becomes second nature. Gaming certainly uses logic but then it depends on the game.

In the spirit of honesty and because you had only the best of intentions I will say this, 'What’s 10 x 10? You may say a 100' that's where my understanding of what you said started and ended. You have to understand that if you spent your whole life never needing numbers, never needing math, you can still harness logic and task it where it's needed but to me numbers and their meanings are a whole other language. One I've only recently learned, when I say basic Math I mean really basic.

Example, when did you learn the twenty-four hour clock? I'm still learning it, I only learned the months of the year because my Partner decided to help me do it. None of the men in my life needed me to tell the time, the months of the year, to count, it wasn't necessary for them, therefore it wasn't necessary for me. My Family said it wasn't necessary for me to be educated, therefore I wasn't, I've never had a schedule of any sort therefore it was decided that I didn't need to know the days of the week, I still have to double check the months of the year. That's just life Yousef, no one cared about educating me, my Partner does, he's the rarest exception that's ever entered my life. I did try to educate myself, bought thousands of books and I've read (checks) 7388 books, but that was all me. I can have anything in my life but education was not one of them, women in my Family are treated differently, very differently. Language was the only exception because I've lived in almost every corner of the world and listening was required. We don't follow that kind of modern thinking, there's absolutely no equality and equality in your world means education, in my world it means knowing my place and never stepping out of line.

It just requires basic logic.

• I tend to not really need logic in my daily life, if you think of all of the things you do each day the things that require logic, I've probably done none of them. I'll ask my browser for some examples.

Here's what it said: Organizing finances (I've never done that before) Making decisions (Someone else does that for me, I don't even decide what to wear or eat) Asking questions (I listen I don't ask) Planning a day (I've never done that before either) Engaging in a debate (That equals backtalk in my life) Comparing prices (A little futile considering the obvious) Cooking (I've never done that before either) I live more through my heart more than I live through logic, it's not just a different world it's a different way of thinking. I only wanted to learn the value of money because people and articles on here talk about it all the time, I've only seen it in my own life once. It's just part of learning about your world, not mine. I see power every day, not money, power can't be calculated only felt. if I never joined this site I'd never have wanted to learn Math. So much here is based on pricing, console prices, games, company buyouts, it's part of trying to be on the same page, which isn't always possible, but it's worth trying.

@GirlVersusGame math is used in all those hobbies you’ve mentioned. Not consciously using a skill is not the same as it not being used subconsciously. You’re never actively telling your heart to beat but it still does. Same with logic. The very foundation of logic is any form of cognitive thinking, and lacking basic cognitive function is an insanely concerning intelligence disability that basic tutors cannot do anything and no amount of self tutoring, experience or practice could do anything about it. I think you’re either misrepresenting your own challenges or missing the point entirely on what can and can’t be done. If you cannot process extremely rudimentary math or logic issues, but can still do all the things you’ve mentioned then there’s a great chance you’re neglectfully missing the point. This has little to do with life experiences. It’s very possible you’re struggling to convey what you’re actually struggling at.