Topic: Corona Virus Panic/Discussion Thread

@Th3solution England (and therefore the UK) is now at the Purge stage where anything goes baby!

@Thrillho I think us and Wales are a bit more cautious since we have some rules still in place but yeah, we seem to be drastically heading towards a ‘f**k it’ mentality. Which doesn’t exactly sound very responsible.

Poland technically hasn't changed any restrictions lately but some events are coming back now (both outdoor and indoor). There's a limit to how many unvaccinated people can attend such an event but I'm not sure how they're verifying anyone's status - I don't think the organizers can ask for any proof, other than just a declaration (and people will lie about this for sure).
I'm playing a small show myself next week but I'm fully vaxed now and everyone attending had their chance so I'm not too worried tbh... Also the number of new cases has been consistently low lately (~100 new cases daily in a 38 million country is not bad) and we have a pretty good vaccination rate here in the city (60-70% vaccinated).
It's not as good in some regions (Poland's east is like USA's south in many ways) but I'm not going anywhere near there anytime soon.

@Kidfried good to hear. How do you feel?

@Thrillho @Th3solution @nessisonett
Really does seem to have devolved into a screw it mentality. But it's been mentally exhausting so I do get it... The vaccinated figure they're probably fine and the voluntarily unvaccinated have generally thought this was always much ado about nothing so here we are. I guess the only people I feel sorry for are those that can't get vaccinated. Edit: well, that and the more unvaccinated, the greater the chances of another variant emerging.

But it's palpable how numb and apathetic everyone has become regarding Covid. Which is more of an observation than a critique, to be clear.

@Kidfried I imagine yearly vaccinations will become a thing. Hope you feel better soon.

@zupertramp The way its going, I think there will be a new set of lockdowns and restrictions come the Autumn/Winter.

Yearly vaccinations?! Yikes!! You trust these companies enough to push a yearly edition?? Not I. Follow the $$$$$.

@Snottie_Drippen I mean, if the data suggests yearly vaccines will substantially reduce risk then, idk, seems reasonable to at least consider it. But that's me.

And for what it's worth, I don't think any financial examination would reveal a plot to purposefully kill people. At worst we get shot up with placebos. I mean, selling us all saline would probably provide the greatest amount of profits if we're really going full conspiracy theory here.

@Kidfried Maybe only for people over a certain age it will be for. I know my parents have the flu jab every year and they are in the seventies, so it could be something similar for covid.

@JohnnyShoulder Yeah, my Nana gets all sorts of jabs and boosters and stuff every year too since her immune system is about the opposite of immune. Wouldn’t surprise me if we had to get boosters every once in a while and it honestly is a minor inconvenience compared to being stuck in my house all day.

@JohnnyShoulder I do believe some health authorities are currently recommending booster shots for some “increased risk groups” or whatever the wording is. That includes the elderly as well as people with certain conditions.

@nessisonett The amount of pills my mum has to take these days is pretty insane!

@Voltan Yeah I think a third jab could be on the way for the elderly and people with certain health conditions in England, think I heard a few weeks back. I've not kept that upto date with it all as I'm pretty healthy and am not that old. My parents would have to though.

Fill me up with more of that sweet sweet Pfizer if needs be!

@zupertramp the data suggests many things. When they tell you to wear a mask after you're vaccinated, it's not about covid or safety. Pfizer was sued 3.9 billion 12years ago for bribing doctors and adverse trial results, they settled for 2.3 bil. Wonder what they're working on these days? Yah might wish it was saline?

Some natural immune boosters in case anyone would like some: being outside, vitamin d, vitamin c, echinacea, exercise (get comfortable being uncomfortable and push your hr daily), yoga/meditation, removing caffeine from diet, removing soda from diet, removing fast food from diet. Workout more than your thumbs and jaw. Challenge yourself to an hour of no technology. Just a few will give a boost.

@Zeldafan79 death isn't something we should be terrified of

@Kidfried I presume most of the testing is already done at this point.

Problem is that without the vaccine we would be worse off. At least the laboratory animals live in good conditions, and they are relatively few compared to the millions bred and slaughtered for production every day.

@Kidfried I've worked with lab animals before, and I can assure you they don't live in small cages/have to listen to loud music all day long. In fact, regulations are incredibly strict (especially here in the Netherlands). Rabbit housing for example is miles better than the average pet rabbit, which is usually confined to a small cage.

@Snottie_Drippen idk, I think maybe you're taking the contrarianism or rebelliousness or whatever a little too far when you start questioning why the masks. There's simply less spread that way. Vaccinated or not, we can get others sick. This is less likely with masks. That's all.

And I'm all for a holistic approach to health. That's why I'm all kinds of no fun at parties. But, someone say, 70 years old and in remission from stomach cancer might not want to rely solely on yoga and multivitamins to ward off death and disease. Modern medicine isn't perfect but it's not something to avoid either.

@Kidfried Sorry you aren't feeling too well. That's how I was on the 2nd day of my 2nd jab. Fine by the next day though so hang in there. A small sacrifice in the end I'm sure.