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KratosMD

Spoilers for the ending of Chapter 4:

The moment when Makoto laid down and hugged Majima's leg and told him how scared she was and then started crying, while Majima pulled out his dagger and looked at it as he was contemplating whether or not to kill her was probably the most powerful and memorable moment that I've seen in the series so far. That was so impactful for me. This game is absolutely phenomenal!

(And just to make clear, I haven't played anything beyond chapter 4 so please no spoilers after that!)

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Kidfried

@KratosMD Thee are still more powerful scenes like that to come!

I think I've put in 150 hours into the game so far. I'm close to the ending of the main story, which isn't that long frankly, but I've spent so much time on the mini games and side quests. I think I'm at about 90% total completion, though I don't suspect I'll ever 100% this one. It was just funny doing all the minigames and such.

Regard my dear
It's all downhill from here

KratosMD

@Kidfried That's great to hear! I can understand now why everybody love this game over Kiwami 1.

That playtime is absolutely insane! I remember trying to go for 100% in Kiwami 1 and I managed to get 50 hours out of that game. But 150 hours? Wow, very impressive!

I sadly won't play as much as you have, since I want to play as many games from my backlog as I can, which means not sticking around with the same game for far too long. But yeah, 0 has so much stuff to do that it's hard to avoid doing everything since it's so addicting.

Edited on by KratosMD

"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

KratosMD

Spent 4 hours nonstop now doing real estate management and it's really addicting. I managed to acquire the first area from Leisure King and the whole setup is really fun. I'm starting to see more and more now why 0 is so good.

Need to take a break from that though and do some more substories and story, lol. Otherwise it's going to eat up a lot of my time!

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"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

themcnoisy

@Kidfried @KratosMD I think with both Yakuza games the impression you are given at the very start is completely different compared to when you are well into the content. The additional gameplay unlocked at hour 20 or 30 in most games is a variation on a gimmick you have already tried within the first 5 hours, with Yakuza something totally new will shows up.

That for me is the series main draw. All 3 of us play a ton of different games and Yakuza scratches that itch in one big game.

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Th3solution

@KratosMD After getting in deep with Y0, are you glad you chose to start with Kiwami? I debated a little about where to start and I remember you were one of the few who had some reasoning for doing Kiwami first. It’s too late for me, btw, since I already started Zero, although I’m just on Chapter 3. I was just curious if your opinion still holds.

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KratosMD

@Th3solution Well I'm on chapter 7 now and because of the events that have happened up to this point, I can't really stand by my previous reasoning anymore. I said before that one should play Kiwami first since 0 is the better game, which is still true based on what I've played of 0 so far. However, the plot of 0 makes me strongly regret that I played Kiwami first. I wish I had played 0 first so that I could've appreciated the plot of Kiwami more, which I barely did since I didn't have the experiences of 0 under my belt. It is actually annoying me quite a bit. I would like to go into specifics but since you haven't played Kiwami yet, I can't share why this is annoying me.

In short, I instantly take back my previous opinion of the two games. One should definitely play 0 first primarily to appreciate what happens in Kiwami.


Anyway, like I said above, I just got done with chapter 6 and the story is getting really heavy. So emotional. I'm also still addicted to the real estate management but I'm getting annoyed that the Electronics area doesn't yield that much in revenues compared to the Leisure area. I've wasted so much money for so little return.

The substories are still amazing but I've yet found that many memorable ones compared to Kiwami. I've still got quite a ways to go so I still expect that the best is yet to come.

"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Th3solution

@KratosMD Thank you sir. It takes a real man to admit when he was wrong.
But it’s good to hear that I’m on the right track. And by extension of your newfound logic, I think the best course after Kiwami may be to do Kiwami 2 next, rather than Yakuza 6, especially since it is almost out now.
It’s also good to hear how much fun the game becomes. I’m enjoying it so far, but apparently I haven’t even scratched the surface yet.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

KratosMD

@Th3solution Yeah I'm definitely holding off on Yakuza 6 until I've played all the numbered games up to that one. We know that is it implied that Yakuza 3, 4 and 5 remasters will be released in the West as well, so you might as well play all of them in order before jumping into 6.

But yeah, like @themcnoisy said, you really need to play 10-15 hours or so before you discover the meat of the game. Once you reach a certain point, you'll realise that the game is going to be completely different than before.

"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

KratosMD

I swear if this game introduces another in-depth mini-game after the real estate and cabaret club ones, I'm going to fall into some serious addiction. Two days ago I was playing Y0 for 4 hours straight doing nothing but real estate management. Then yesterday I did the same thing but with cabaret club.

They are great and all but they are really time consuming and honestly, I just want to finish the story and move on to other games. I'll probably try and complete more areas throughout my playthrough, but I definitely don't plan on completing all areas.

Other than that I feel like I'm steadily progressing through the story. I just started chapter 8 so I should be roughly halfway through the story now. But there is just so much side content that it's hard to make any significant progress. I'd probably be nearing the end of the game now if it weren't for the two main mini-games, lol.

Edited on by KratosMD

"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Th3solution

@KratosMD Have you spent much time bowling, playing darts, batting cage, majong, etc? I’m wondering if the game simply just has too much content, if there is such a thing. I’m with you, I don’t necessarily want to get stuck in the game for 200 hrs since I’d like to work on my backlog. At the end of the day, if your having fun, I guess it doesn’t matter if you just play one game forever, but there are not only many more good games to experience, there are 6 other Yakuza games alone! 😂

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KratosMD

@Th3solution No I haven't because I've already experienced those mini-games in Kiwami. I've only done stuff that wasn't available in that game, so my playtime could have been longer if this were my first Yakuza game.

I feel like the in-depth mini-games could easily be their own games altogether, as they probably would take 20-25 hours each to be fully completed. They are probably the major contributors to why Y0 is such a long game. But like you said, there are other Yakuza games and one is releasing next month, so I just don't feel like playing this game forever even if it's fun. I'm 25 hours in so far and I'm estimating that I'll be content with the game by the 50 hour mark (when the story will hopefully end as well).

"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Kidfried

Honestly I am the type of person that can play a game forever if I like it that much. When Skyrim released I played it for 9 months straight, even though there were many other games coming out. Something similar happened last year with The Witcher 3, which I played for 6 months without interruption. As a result I missed out on so many great 2017 releases, and I'm still trying to catch up. But I wouldn't change a thing, because that was time well spent.

It's not exactly the same with Yakuza. But I've still played the game for close to 200 hours, so the game certainly has me hooked.

Most of that time was spent 100%ing all the different minigames.

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andreoni79

I've never played any Yakuza game, so 0 should be a good choice to start the series, right?

Praise the Sun, and Mario too.

KratosMD

@Kidfried The thing with me is that I'm on a summer break now so I don't want the majority of it to be spent on a couple of games. However, if I were to play the game after school/work then I'd most likely play it for much longer, just like how I spent 120 hours with BotW earlier in the year.

And I mean, at the end of the day, it's up to the player to decide how much he/she wants to play the game before feeling content with it, you know.

@andreoni79 Yeah definitely. It's a prequel to the first game, so playing it first will help you appreciate the later games!

"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

themcnoisy

@KratosMD @Kidfried @th3solution I completed the estate management and quit the club management after taking over the second club. The estate management is designed so you can keep coming back to it during your playthrough. So run to the office, delegate responsibility, go and do something else. The nightclub stuff was fun the first few times but gets repetitive quickly imo. So I binned that off at some point.

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KratosMD

So I just got done with Electronic King's area and I was actually going to stop playing this part of the game because I couldn't win at Out Run against him and I thought that would prevent me from finishing his area. But apparently it does not matter as long as you invest in your properties, which is good. So now I'm close to finishing Pleasure King's area as well and then I think I'm going to continue with the story. I think I'm nearing the end of chapter 10 now so I'm well over halfway through the story now! This game has been a blast so far.

"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Kidfried

@KratosMD You're going fast. You're finishing it before me if you keep it up. (I'm still a few chapters ahead, though!)

And like I said, I just care about having a great experience. So as long as the experience is great, I can forget all about the millions of games in my backlog. I have just accepted I'll never keep up with releases. Feels like everyone on here plays more games than me.

@themcnoisy I see how the nightclub stuff can get boring. Especially leveling up the ladies can be a chore. However, I did enjoy battling the other club managers. Some of them were quite demanding.

Regard my dear
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KratosMD

@Kidfried Yeah it's been awhile since I've found a game that's been this addicting (I'm at 32 hours of playtime now). Usually I need to force myself to play something, but with Yakuza 0 I just want to play more. That's the sign of an exceptional game.

I just started chapter 12 and I actually managed to beat Pleasure King before that. I really don't feel like doing the cabaret club mini game anymore though. Right now I think I'm just going to do a couple of substories with Majima and then proceed with the story. The story has been much more satisfying and mysterious than Kiwami so far, I just want to experience more of it!

I never thought I would be done with this game before Kiwami 2, but that will actually happen now. Which is great, since I need a good break from the Yakuza series before I play that game.

Edited on by KratosMD

"To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly"
"They fail to live because they are always preparing to live" - Alan Watts
"You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Th3solution

Can I just say, that after playing some more, and spending some time doing several side quests with Majima (now on Chapter 4), that I am really impressed with the localization / English translation of the game. The dialog is hilarious! And they have managed to fill the dialog with very culturally appropriate slang and vernacular. The quips and sarcasm hits the mark consistently. Some of the humor and narrative is very Japanese, sure, but the conversations come off surprisingly natural with an English twist. Phrases and syntax reads as very conversational. And they even did the Chinese foreigner broken English spot on during the fake heart necklace sidequest. It’s weird to think the game was originally in Japanese, then they had to translate it into English and at the same time make it read like what a Chinese person who speaks poor English would say. Brilliant!
I suppose some of the slang they use wasn’t really in vogue for conversation back in the 80’s but it’s asking too much to not only localize it for an American and English audience, but also hit the language used in the time period as well.
@Kidfried Since English is not your native language, do you find the conversation easy to follow and do you understand the jokes?

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