@DonJorginho shareholders will probably think otherwise) Expect the share price to tank mightily tomorrow, like it did when the first delay was announced.
In the long term, depends on how they use it and how the game turns out.
This kind of sober analysis was sorely missed in 2022, when half of this site was crying in comments about how MS will pull CoD from PS current and future platforms
@Cloud39472 because it’s their job to report news, and it was rather astonishing that such a highly-rated game did not sell well. If it was breaking sale records, PS would be writing multiple articles about that.
Been following this discourse for a while, SE shared nothing new) In the absence of solid data (production+advertising budget, sales/total income generated, exclusivity fees from sony), it is impossible to say how this game performed. However, the majority of factors point towards underperformance. It is not a Forspoken/Concord level of flop, but if one of the highest-rates games of year, a remake of arguably one of the best games ever fails to sell more than the latest ff instalment (ff16), I can’t see how this can be painted as a success.
@ZeroSum agree with you on that one (still to watch the remaining non-Sony episodes from the 2nd half, though!) From what I’ve seen so far, it’s mostly safe stories and tropes, Pac-man being the most daring. Even Wh40k, for all its graphical glory, is just another “Space Marines endure!” episode. Pushsquare, hoping you’ll publish an editorial about the series this weekend, so can properly exchange impressions!
@Ravix I still remember how everyone was hyped for Suicide Squad, before seeing any gameplay whatsoever. Even acclaimed developers may slip. For W4, it is probably clear what kind of game it will be, but I am sceptical at this stage how it will not be “W3 but better graphics and bigger world”. For Intergalactic, given ND’s emphasis how different and gameplay-oriented it will be, compared to their recent titles, and since it’s been in development for some time, I hoped for more.
A timely reminder! Personally not fond of “no gameplay” trailers. W4, given that it has been officially confirmed as in development, could wait until they had more than fancy graphics to show. Same for Intergalactic.
Appreciate separate polls, unlike in the earlier article, which left some confused. Think Rebirth will claim GOTY, but personally rooting for Balatro. If that happens, I expect the outrage not seen since when Telltale’s The Walking Dead got the honours in 2012!
@Zemo55 you are right - I should have been more clear. It does sound pretentious this way… I should have said “anything else apart from Rebirth and Balatro”, as this is what I wanted to say. Apologies for point b) then.
@Zemo55 you might benefit from rereading a) the wording of the poll; b) my comment;)
I think Rebirth will win GOTY (and PushSquare’s poll later) based on the sentiment I see on Metacritic and here. I have played it, and don’t think it deserves that because of the many problems it has, and its best parts largely being repeats from Remake.
Voted for Rebirth, as I am sure it will take the nomination, but personally don’t think it deserves to win. Haven’t played anything else apart from Balatro here, so can’t really offer a reasonable alternative option…
Thanks for the review, and congratz to the developers on their solid first shipped title!
Given that we’ve had a few day one PS Extra releases over the past year, what’s the consensus about it now? Is it still an exploitative practice robbing devs of potential full-priced sales, or an option to cover a larger audience and have a guaranteed revenue stream?
Disappointing video, disappointing price (though I expected something around £650-700). Good news: we are now moving to PS6, which, having been just blindsided by Sony, I will not buy and will wait for inevitable PS6Pro.
Kind of amusing to watch this, and then recall CMA’s arguments to block ActiBlizz acquisition, to prevent MS doing something similar.
I think this confirms predictions that PS5 is past its peak sales, and Sony is trying to squeeze as much as it can from falling volumes. Still, sucks to see 60% inflation over 4 years.
Congratz to Capcom! Very informative press release in terms of units sold - hope other publishers will be as transparent! (looking at you, Square Enix!)
Looks plausible, given all other data points. If true, this is a fiasco, and another round of layoffs is imminent…
Wonder how it will affect FF7R3 development - I hope they will opt for a more compact game, rather than cut costs by reusing assets, AI generating content, and the like.
Interesting. I think the title is a bit misleading, as I understood it as Gearbox being bought by the same party as Saber. I checked the terms of the initial purchase -$360m initially and about $1bn deferred over 6 years. Wonder how much loss Embracer will post on both of these transactions?
Thanks for an informative review! Disappointed about the bloat - based on earlier coverage, I hoped for 50+hours story, plus 20-30hrs of optional content, so that the first “completionist” walkthrough would amount to around 80hrs. Looks like it’s gonna be much more than that - not sure I am going to plat this one then(
Charming stylisation, but I can sense why Sony got cold feet: fps is visibly below 30 in scenes with heavy weather effects, combat looks like your average indie Souls wannabe, and all internal deadlines must have been missed by a mile. Still, wish them luck to salvage what they can and ship it eventually, even if that means some downscaling.
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Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, Now Out 20th March
@DonJorginho shareholders will probably think otherwise) Expect the share price to tank mightily tomorrow, like it did when the first delay was announced.
In the long term, depends on how they use it and how the game turns out.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Delayed Again, Now Out 20th March
Ubi just can’t have a break from bad news…
Re: This Is Why Call of Duty Is Not Gonna Stop Launching on PS5
This kind of sober analysis was sorely missed in 2022, when half of this site was crying in comments about how MS will pull CoD from PS current and future platforms
Re: Square Enix Insists Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Hasn't Been the PS5 Sales Disaster It's Been Painted As
@Cloud39472 because it’s their job to report news, and it was rather astonishing that such a highly-rated game did not sell well. If it was breaking sale records, PS would be writing multiple articles about that.
Re: Square Enix Insists Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Hasn't Been the PS5 Sales Disaster It's Been Painted As
Been following this discourse for a while, SE shared nothing new)
In the absence of solid data (production+advertising budget, sales/total income generated, exclusivity fees from sony), it is impossible to say how this game performed.
However, the majority of factors point towards underperformance. It is not a Forspoken/Concord level of flop, but if one of the highest-rates games of year, a remake of arguably one of the best games ever fails to sell more than the latest ff instalment (ff16), I can’t see how this can be painted as a success.
Re: Amazon's Secret Level Has Been Renewed for a Second Season
@ZeroSum I did not know that, awesome!
Re: Amazon's Secret Level Has Been Renewed for a Second Season
@ZeroSum agree with you on that one (still to watch the remaining non-Sony episodes from the 2nd half, though!) From what I’ve seen so far, it’s mostly safe stories and tropes, Pac-man being the most daring. Even Wh40k, for all its graphical glory, is just another “Space Marines endure!” episode.
Pushsquare, hoping you’ll publish an editorial about the series this weekend, so can properly exchange impressions!
Re: Star Wars: Eclipse, Wonder Woman Comprised of 'Literally Nothing' When Revealed
@Ravix I still remember how everyone was hyped for Suicide Squad, before seeing any gameplay whatsoever. Even acclaimed developers may slip.
For W4, it is probably clear what kind of game it will be, but I am sceptical at this stage how it will not be “W3 but better graphics and bigger world”.
For Intergalactic, given ND’s emphasis how different and gameplay-oriented it will be, compared to their recent titles, and since it’s been in development for some time, I hoped for more.
Re: Star Wars: Eclipse, Wonder Woman Comprised of 'Literally Nothing' When Revealed
A timely reminder! Personally not fond of “no gameplay” trailers. W4, given that it has been officially confirmed as in development, could wait until they had more than fancy graphics to show. Same for Intergalactic.
Re: Poll: What Will Win Game of the Year at The Game Awards 2024?
Appreciate separate polls, unlike in the earlier article, which left some confused. Think Rebirth will claim GOTY, but personally rooting for Balatro. If that happens, I expect the outrage not seen since when Telltale’s The Walking Dead got the honours in 2012!
Re: Former Blizzard Boss Slams Marvel Rivals, Comparing It to Horizon-Like Light of Motiram
From a guy who suggested tipping at the end of single-player games, blissfully unaware of “deluxe edition” upgrade most games have now…
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Is Not Getting DLC, Part 3 the Full Focus
As expected, and I hope can shorten the development time for Part 3 to less than 4 years.
Re: 'No Plans' for Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 Pro Patch, CD Projekt Red Confirms
Absolutely unexpected for me, given that they chosen to update W3 for PS5.
Re: Remedy Offers Control 2 Insight, AAA Action RPG on €50 Million Budget
Action RPG is a very crowded genre, I wonder how they are going to position C2 to stand out.
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Nominees Revealed, Astro Bot Up for 7 Awards
@Zemo55 you are right - I should have been more clear. It does sound pretentious this way…
I should have said “anything else apart from Rebirth and Balatro”, as this is what I wanted to say.
Apologies for point b) then.
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Nominees Revealed, Astro Bot Up for 7 Awards
@voltum3l so did Gamespot and Eurogamer (both 80). IGN gave 9. Most of 10s/100s are from smaller or non-specialised publications (like DotEsports).
I am glad that you and others enjoyed it thoroughly. But it’s not your significant other, no need to pretend it is perfect)
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Nominees Revealed, Astro Bot Up for 7 Awards
@Zemo55 you might benefit from rereading a) the wording of the poll; b) my comment;)
I think Rebirth will win GOTY (and PushSquare’s poll later) based on the sentiment I see on Metacritic and here. I have played it, and don’t think it deserves that because of the many problems it has, and its best parts largely being repeats from Remake.
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Nominees Revealed, Astro Bot Up for 7 Awards
Voted for Rebirth, as I am sure it will take the nomination, but personally don’t think it deserves to win. Haven’t played anything else apart from Balatro here, so can’t really offer a reasonable alternative option…
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Nominees Revealed, Astro Bot Up for 7 Awards
@KillerBoy what’s wrong with Balatro?
Re: Review: PS5 Pro - An Impressive Yet Inconsistent Upgrade
@Hyena_socks actually, Argos offered £40 discount for a few days, and John Lewis still does. Wonder what it says about demand)
Re: Review: PS5 Pro - An Impressive Yet Inconsistent Upgrade
@colonelkilgore this is the same reasoning we had about cross-gen (PS4/5) games, and I am not quite happy how it is resolved so far…
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Pro Gets Stronger Start Than PS4 Pro Despite Being Twice the Price
@DonJorginho screenshotting this comment to haunt you in 2027 or 8)
Re: Hands On: Serious Pop-In the Only Problem with Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Massive PS5 Pro Boost
I wonder if spectacularly angular cat’s bowl in Tifa’s
house was updated at all?🤨
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (PS5) - A Sublime Remaster of a Modern PlayStation Classic
Did they change the trophies’ names? The original had the most boring ones. The platinum is named “All trophies obtained”.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Web Swings to PC in January 2025
Another first party game hits PC before PS Plus Extra…
Re: Boy! God of War Ragnarok Will Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@HonestHick agree with you for the same reasons.
Re: Boy! God of War Ragnarok Will Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@dirtidISHes I guarantee it will! And W3 most likely afterwards.
Re: Boy! God of War Ragnarok Will Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
Cyberpunk2077 developers now, thinking they were finally done with the game:🥲
Re: Big Tech Cuts Made to Get Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Running on PS4
This could have been the solution to Rebirth’s flagging sales.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
If the numbers are as high as claimed, we should see a major hit to profitability of the gaming division in Q3 results when they are out in November.
Re: God of War Ragnarok's PC Launch Trailer Reminds You It's a Classic
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Re: God of War Ragnarok's PC Launch Trailer Reminds You It's a Classic
@MrPeanutbutterz in that case, why have subscription services, and by the same token, discounts at all? Pony up for quality!
I don’t expect day one release, but almost 2 years later, it’s about time for “dvd stage” (to use movies as analogy), no?
For sub services, number of users is critical, and what better way to increase that than putting a tentpole 1st party title on.
Re: God of War Ragnarok's PC Launch Trailer Reminds You It's a Classic
So Ragnarok hits PC before it appears on PS Extra. Okay…
Re: The Plucky Squire (PS5) - Joyful, Inventive Adventure on Every Page of PS Plus Gem
Thanks for the review, and congratz to the developers on their solid first shipped title!
Given that we’ve had a few day one PS Extra releases over the past year, what’s the consensus about it now? Is it still an exploitative practice robbing devs of potential full-priced sales, or an option to cover a larger audience and have a guaranteed revenue stream?
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
Typo - should be $779
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Disappointing video, disappointing price (though I expected something around £650-700). Good news: we are now moving to PS6, which, having been just blindsided by Sony, I will not buy and will wait for inevitable PS6Pro.
Re: Japan Hit with Yet Another PS5 Price Increase
Kind of amusing to watch this, and then recall CMA’s arguments to block ActiBlizz acquisition, to prevent MS doing something similar.
I think this confirms predictions that PS5 is past its peak sales, and Sony is trying to squeeze as much as it can from falling volumes. Still, sucks to see 60% inflation over 4 years.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Goes Hitman in Glitzy Campaign Gameplay on PS5, PS4
Faces look very last gen up close, feels like below 30fps in many segments, and an armored mini-gun miniboss again… meh for me
Re: Quantic Dream's Troubled Star Wars Eclipse Just Lost Its Lead Writer
At least it is not alone in the limbo, with KOTOR remake also hanging there…
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Release Date Leaks, Arrives on PS5 for Halloween
How about “will try it when it’s on EA play one year later?”
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
First month when I regret cancelling Premium/Extra last October! Crisis Core, Pathfinder and maybe Remnant are highlights for me.
Re: Capcom Hits Record High Profits for Seventh Year in a Row
Congratz to Capcom! Very informative press release in terms of units sold - hope other publishers will be as transparent! (looking at you, Square Enix!)
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Fallout 4's Next-Gen Version?
Will play later on PC for the first time, after Fallout London mod is released.
Re: Excellent PS5 Game Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Now Part of EA Play
Strictly one year after release - I wish Sony had such consistency with PS Plus.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Dominates Once Again, Dragon's Dogma 2 in Third
Another proof for Rebirth’s sales underperformance (relative to its budget).
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Has Sold Around 2 Million Copies, PS5 Player Data Suggests
Looks plausible, given all other data points. If true, this is a fiasco, and another round of layoffs is imminent…
Wonder how it will affect FF7R3 development - I hope they will opt for a more compact game, rather than cut costs by reusing assets, AI generating content, and the like.
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Objectively, not the worst month, but nothing that I was super eager to play. No regrets letting my subscription lapse, then.
Re: Borderlands Dev Set to Join Saber in Leaving Embracer Group
Interesting. I think the title is a bit misleading, as I understood it as Gearbox being bought by the same party as Saber.
I checked the terms of the initial purchase -$360m initially and about $1bn deferred over 6 years. Wonder how much loss Embracer will post on both of these transactions?
Re: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (PS5) - Strong Sequel Seeks a New Direction
Thanks for an informative review! Disappointed about the bloat - based on earlier coverage, I hoped for 50+hours story, plus 20-30hrs of optional content, so that the first “completionist” walkthrough would amount to around 80hrs. Looks like it’s gonna be much more than that - not sure I am going to plat this one then(
Re: Little Devil Inside Finally Resurfaces with New Trailer, Kickstarter Update
Charming stylisation, but I can sense why Sony got cold feet: fps is visibly below 30 in scenes with heavy weather effects, combat looks like your average indie Souls wannabe, and all internal deadlines must have been missed by a mile. Still, wish them luck to salvage what they can and ship it eventually, even if that means some downscaling.