@LogicStrikesAgain yes, game was already started, but it wouldnt be hard to implement characters. I am guessing they wouldnt even try such game with own IP at all. It is just amusing for me. To have something similar to Marvel Rivals, where everyone is against everyone and having fun with characters they like the most. Now all that game is dead, all that design will be thrown in bin, and even if they will return to similar game, they cant really use visually anything from there, because it will be straight away compared to their biggest fail.
Lets see what are they trying to create moving forward.
I am atleast happy, that they acknowledge their mistake and are stating, that they will try learn from that. Hopefully they will reallybunderstand what went worng and will not repeat it
@rjejr Everygame has to sell 10 million copies or it is failure It is specific game for specific audience. It straight away goes to PS5 Classic games imo, and will be touted as one of best PS5 games. Even if I dont like it, I think it is success and hopefully they didnt spent 100million for development and it is already in proffit. Not all games has to be blockbusters.
@Th3solution when New audience is everyone who hasnt bought 1st party game in 2 years, it is already stretching something. Imagine selling 65million PS5, game sell 1.5million copies. And 37% is new audience. Companies like to create beautiful statistics with large numbers
Maybe I am totally dillusional. But why Sony needed to create such game as New IP? Why it couldnt start as Playstation All Stars type of PvP shooter? Imagine rooster of Kratos, Uncharted guys, TLOU, Astro Bot, and everyone else and it would start as that? And then you add brand new characters with Background. Even I would like to play something similar to that.
@Th3solution you go into much details Who knows what kind of information they have. I would speculate that each game could have Unique identifier, and they could easily see who plays second hand game in that way. Unless you keep console without ever going online, very unlikely. I would assume that they would have such system to track specific data like that. Each car in world has Unique identifiers, why wouldnt games, which are sold in lower volume wouldnt had that?
@Max_the_German I don't doubt it. It is probably one of best PS5 games, especially if Controller vibration is thing you like, I love games with great Haptic Feedback. But platformers in general is not my cup of tea.
@Th3solution you really think that Sony cant see all data connected to your PSN account? If you havent launched those games on your account, you dont have that game.
@somnambulance better than Stellar Blade? I beg to differ. Those are teo different games. You could say that you prefer Astro bot more than SB. I have bought FF7 Rebirth, Stellar Blade and I have 0 interest in Astro Bot. But I am not claiming that SB is better game because of that.
@Alps_Stranger it is already extra thing they can easily take away if they want. It is not mandatory for them to have such scheme in first place. Nothing to do with competition.
I use Stars program to enjoy 4% cashback, but I am not sure that option will stay available for long period of time.
@ScottyG you can't read your own "balancing" after 4-5 months? Game gets balance update every 3 months. I just wanted to point out, that first big balancing is less than 4-5 mo ths away and secondly, don't expect it to be good or finished. You are giving some strange predictions and thats what I tried to point out. But now, you are taking back, that you didnt sven mention balance in D4
@kyleforrester87 It has Couch co-op from day one. Only "Guest" needs its own Blizzard account to log on and good to go. It is high Quality coach Co-op when I tried it out. Easy to play. Each can open skill tree/Inventory at same time.
@riceNpea nobody will answer for you that. If it annoyed already, then very likely you will get annoyed again easily. Spiritborn superb, other classes mediocre
Why there is no option to disable it Sorry, but for me there is 0 use for that, it just takes space. Atleast managed to create 3 small tabs at bottom of Welcome page, so atleast it looks "empty".
@GamingFan4Lyf definately you are right with that. But look at gaming, it needs to sell so many copies to be viable, especially for called AAA gaming. Star Wars Outlaws sold 1 million copies and it is likely considered "flop" for Ubisoft. They refer "soft sales". No wonder everyone waits on R* GTA6 and hopes they will push for higher standard price.
@GamingFan4Lyf and where is Vat? 30% commision, 20% VAT, it doesnt keep a lot. Ofcourse you want to sell game as many places possible. Sony probably are testing waters and collecting data and probably sees, that selling game on PC doesnt really affect console sales as much. Games cost fortune to make, you have to monetize as much as you can. People in general will not buy games for 100, so best is to look towards PC market. And its great, that games goes multiplatform in my opinion. I play mainly on PS, but I dont see that as proble if game goes to PC. And Sony has lost so much money on potential live service games, it cant really afford to give nothing cheap. It is big corporation where Gaming is huge proffit and revenue maker.
@GamingFan4Lyf Somehow you forget that Sony makes 30% of any digital purchase in its store. Playstation wins more and more when Xbox puts all new games on Playstation with some delays. Sony is not operating on loss.
@ORO_ERICIUS go kick the Microsoft to lower the price. I would only accept same price if Digital would be with 2TB. But at same price, it feels very bad.
Just great. Pre ordered PRO and only good news. Rebirth finally will be good to play. Stellar Blade replay maybe. D4 expansion is ready to go too. As much it is expensive, games are pouring in with Pro Enhanced ready.
Yeah, who doesnt know that in 6 months time you can expect 50% sale and finally fixed game? Thats what they have promised, for coming months, to fix the game.
@Moj500 because other news sites covers it. It is down for more than 5 hours.
10 posts about PS5 PRO is okay, but one relevant for daily users is not. Nothing online related is working. That is big issue.
@Medic_alert why you need in general make such limited run, if there are more buyers? Same as Premium brands, its just to make design more valuable. They could easily make 123 000 instead of 12 300 or even more. They could sell plates etc. Especially when they sold Pro bundle for such reasonable RRP price. It is just open gates to resell it because of scarcity. Lets guess that PS5 has 60 million consoles worldwide. 12 300 is just 0,02%. I know, PS4 was same run. Just salty that I didnt get one.
Those listings doesnt brake rules. I reported around 5 for testing, and all was declined by automatic system. As you can see, then his reply was from manual removal from Customer support.
If only someone is eager to run through EBAY tos and provide that there is rule for inflating price. I would say, ebay doesnt really have rules against it.
@themightyant Why not? Reality will be that less people will swap from PS5 to PS6. PS5 will be relevant console for longer by looking at PS4 as example and how that is still kicking around. For PS6 to be cheaper than PS5 Pro doesnt make sense. You would expect that PS6 will be more powerful console. That is not cheap. There needs to be some sort of price crash in silicon manufacturing.
Regular PS5 PRO was "sold out" only for 3-4 hours. It is available from yesterday afternoon without issues.
I will buy it. Probably near to Launch date. So many games I could play has PRO Enhanced mark. So no point of waiting longer. I would like to get 30th anniversary, but I am not buying it 2nd hand.
@carlos82 i went to page 8:06. It stated that direct uk is on pause from 8:05. It let me in after 2 hours, I was in queue all that time. It was sold out as soon I tried to buy it. Thats my experience. That is about Pro 30th bundle. Regular PRO was available for lot longer.
Yeah, I like to see GOW Ragnarok on Steam. Great, but at same time it rubbers salt. Deluxe edition costs 59,99£, while on PSN is is just 79,99£. Steam takes 30% cut aswell. I am for great value for older games, but why not lower base price on PS5? Oh because they can do what they want. I am just salty, thats all.
@2here2there why? Maybe average player doesnt like platformer type of games? As polished and good Astro Bot is, I will not buy it. I will agree, that game looks very good, but it is not for me. It feels booring for me. And I don't do MTX in Diablo 4, but I will play D4 without doubt for near future.
@Rich33 don't worry. Prepare wallet for HL 2. It is coming in near future. And such things are not done o ernight. It is obvious that Warner Brothers didn't expect that Hogwarts Legacy will be one of the year popular game and Live service would flop. Now they turned the table and HL2 is priority.
I have played a lot of Unbound. But that post launch development "soon" will end. Installing now that Trial version of Motorfest. Lets see how it feels.
@NEStalgia look at bigger picture. Why would PS6 push higher GPU power for 4k 60fps? At this point we have reached console limits price/performance. There is no value and market for lets say 4k 120fps PS6, which would cost at best same price as PS5 Pro.
Imagine that 50% of active Playstation User base couple months ago was on PS4 systems. It will be so much harder to move people from PS5 to PS6 in4 years time. All games will come out on PS5 anyways, it will be 4k 30fps console for so long time. You will pick up PS6 if you want 4K 60+FPS, with PSSR 2.0, RT 2.0. That is my prediction.
But be realistic, PS5 Pro on its own should be compared to PS5 Digital version not with DiscDrive. It is 389£ vs 699£ (+1TB). It is way more than 50% increase.
@Kevw2006 yeah, there is 0 backtracking. Only giving bonuses for new purchases. I guess that is intentional to push for extra purchases and give nothing for those who already did tasks before promotion.
I have picked 10x 5£ till now. But in general it is 4% Cashback. That means in 13 months you have to spend in PS Store atleast 125£ to get those 5£ and/or gain some points by completing tasks. I don't do any of those tasks. If you spend less per 13 months, then Stars program is good only for those collectibles.
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Re: Sony Comments on Concord Disaster, Says Game Should Have Been Tested Earlier
@LogicStrikesAgain yes, game was already started, but it wouldnt be hard to implement characters. I am guessing they wouldnt even try such game with own IP at all. It is just amusing for me. To have something similar to Marvel Rivals, where everyone is against everyone and having fun with characters they like the most.
Now all that game is dead, all that design will be thrown in bin, and even if they will return to similar game, they cant really use visually anything from there, because it will be straight away compared to their biggest fail.
Lets see what are they trying to create moving forward.
I am atleast happy, that they acknowledge their mistake and are stating, that they will try learn from that. Hopefully they will reallybunderstand what went worng and will not repeat it
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@rjejr Everygame has to sell 10 million copies or it is failure It is specific game for specific audience. It straight away goes to PS5 Classic games imo, and will be touted as one of best PS5 games. Even if I dont like it, I think it is success and hopefully they didnt spent 100million for development and it is already in proffit. Not all games has to be blockbusters.
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@Th3solution when New audience is everyone who hasnt bought 1st party game in 2 years, it is already stretching something. Imagine selling 65million PS5, game sell 1.5million copies. And 37% is new audience. Companies like to create beautiful statistics with large numbers
Re: Sony Comments on Concord Disaster, Says Game Should Have Been Tested Earlier
Maybe I am totally dillusional. But why Sony needed to create such game as New IP? Why it couldnt start as Playstation All Stars type of PvP shooter? Imagine rooster of Kratos, Uncharted guys, TLOU, Astro Bot, and everyone else and it would start as that? And then you add brand new characters with Background. Even I would like to play something similar to that.
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@Th3solution you go into much details Who knows what kind of information they have.
I would speculate that each game could have Unique identifier, and they could easily see who plays second hand game in that way. Unless you keep console without ever going online, very unlikely. I would assume that they would have such system to track specific data like that. Each car in world has Unique identifiers, why wouldnt games, which are sold in lower volume wouldnt had that?
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@Max_the_German I don't doubt it. It is probably one of best PS5 games, especially if Controller vibration is thing you like, I love games with great Haptic Feedback. But platformers in general is not my cup of tea.
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@Th3solution you really think that Sony cant see all data connected to your PSN account? If you havent launched those games on your account, you dont have that game.
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@somnambulance better than Stellar Blade? I beg to differ. Those are teo different games. You could say that you prefer Astro bot more than SB. I have bought FF7 Rebirth, Stellar Blade and I have 0 interest in Astro Bot. But I am not claiming that SB is better game because of that.
Re: Cash Rewards Still Missing for Many from PS5, PS4 Rewards Scheme PS Stars
@Alps_Stranger it is already extra thing they can easily take away if they want. It is not mandatory for them to have such scheme in first place. Nothing to do with competition.
I use Stars program to enjoy 4% cashback, but I am not sure that option will stay available for long period of time.
Re: Cash Rewards Still Missing for Many from PS5, PS4 Rewards Scheme PS Stars
@colonelkilgore That Cashback is in value of 4%. Why give 4% if they can give 0%
Hopefully it will come back.
Re: Mini Review: Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred (PS5) - Hard to Hate This Meaty Expansion
@ScottyG you can't read your own "balancing" after 4-5 months?
Game gets balance update every 3 months. I just wanted to point out, that first big balancing is less than 4-5 mo ths away and secondly, don't expect it to be good or finished. You are giving some strange predictions and thats what I tried to point out.
But now, you are taking back, that you didnt sven mention balance in D4
Re: Mini Review: Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred (PS5) - Hard to Hate This Meaty Expansion
@HonestHick They will. It will sell that Expansion like crazy for sure. It is all part of the game )
Re: Mini Review: Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred (PS5) - Hard to Hate This Meaty Expansion
@kyleforrester87 It has Couch co-op from day one. Only "Guest" needs its own Blizzard account to log on and good to go. It is high Quality coach Co-op when I tried it out. Easy to play. Each can open skill tree/Inventory at same time.
Re: Mini Review: Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred (PS5) - Hard to Hate This Meaty Expansion
@ScottyG Blizzard is balancing game every Season. It will never be "Balanced" nor finished.
Re: Mini Review: Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred (PS5) - Hard to Hate This Meaty Expansion
@riceNpea nobody will answer for you that. If it annoyed already, then very likely you will get annoyed again easily. Spiritborn superb, other classes mediocre
Re: PS5's New Welcome Page Rolling Out to UK Accounts
Why there is no option to disable it Sorry, but for me there is 0 use for that, it just takes space.
Atleast managed to create 3 small tabs at bottom of Welcome page, so atleast it looks "empty".
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@GamingFan4Lyf definately you are right with that. But look at gaming, it needs to sell so many copies to be viable, especially for called AAA gaming. Star Wars Outlaws sold 1 million copies and it is likely considered "flop" for Ubisoft. They refer "soft sales". No wonder everyone waits on R* GTA6 and hopes they will push for higher standard price.
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@GamingFan4Lyf and where is Vat? 30% commision, 20% VAT, it doesnt keep a lot.
Ofcourse you want to sell game as many places possible. Sony probably are testing waters and collecting data and probably sees, that selling game on PC doesnt really affect console sales as much. Games cost fortune to make, you have to monetize as much as you can. People in general will not buy games for 100, so best is to look towards PC market. And its great, that games goes multiplatform in my opinion. I play mainly on PS, but I dont see that as proble if game goes to PC.
And Sony has lost so much money on potential live service games, it cant really afford to give nothing cheap. It is big corporation where Gaming is huge proffit and revenue maker.
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@ORO_ERICIUS microsoft sells Series X at 549,99€ at its homepage. If someone sells for 499,99€, then it is probably discount
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@GamingFan4Lyf Somehow you forget that Sony makes 30% of any digital purchase in its store. Playstation wins more and more when Xbox puts all new games on Playstation with some delays.
Sony is not operating on loss.
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@ORO_ERICIUS go kick the Microsoft to lower the price. I would only accept same price if Digital would be with 2TB. But at same price, it feels very bad.
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@ORO_ERICIUS why are you lying? Series X in Microsoft store 479£. White Digital Series X 429£.
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
@Deityjester no one is limiting your option to play eternal character...
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
Just great. Pre ordered PRO and only good news. Rebirth finally will be good to play. Stellar Blade replay maybe. D4 expansion is ready to go too. As much it is expensive, games are pouring in with Pro Enhanced ready.
Re: Report Finds Lack of Star Wars Outlaws Sales Disturbing
Yeah, who doesnt know that in 6 months time you can expect 50% sale and finally fixed game?
Thats what they have promised, for coming months, to fix the game.
Re: PlayStation Fans Gleefully Snitch on 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Scalpers
@Moj500 because other news sites covers it. It is down for more than 5 hours.
10 posts about PS5 PRO is okay, but one relevant for daily users is not. Nothing online related is working. That is big issue.
Re: PlayStation Fans Gleefully Snitch on 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Scalpers
@Medic_alert why you need in general make such limited run, if there are more buyers? Same as Premium brands, its just to make design more valuable. They could easily make 123 000 instead of 12 300 or even more. They could sell plates etc. Especially when they sold Pro bundle for such reasonable RRP price. It is just open gates to resell it because of scarcity. Lets guess that PS5 has 60 million consoles worldwide. 12 300 is just 0,02%. I know, PS4 was same run. Just salty that I didnt get one.
Re: PlayStation Fans Gleefully Snitch on 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Scalpers
Why Pushsquare is not covering, that PSN is down? Cant go online in UK for example
Re: PlayStation Fans Gleefully Snitch on 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Scalpers
Those listings doesnt brake rules. I reported around 5 for testing, and all was declined by automatic system. As you can see, then his reply was from manual removal from Customer support.
If only someone is eager to run through EBAY tos and provide that there is rule for inflating price. I would say, ebay doesnt really have rules against it.
Re: Tech Experts Reckon PS5 Pro Could Help Pave the Way to PS6
@themightyant Why not? Reality will be that less people will swap from PS5 to PS6. PS5 will be relevant console for longer by looking at PS4 as example and how that is still kicking around. For PS6 to be cheaper than PS5 Pro doesnt make sense. You would expect that PS6 will be more powerful console. That is not cheap. There needs to be some sort of price crash in silicon manufacturing.
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
Regular PS5 PRO was "sold out" only for 3-4 hours. It is available from yesterday afternoon without issues.
I will buy it. Probably near to Launch date. So many games I could play has PRO Enhanced mark. So no point of waiting longer. I would like to get 30th anniversary, but I am not buying it 2nd hand.
Re: PS5 Pro's 30th Anniversary Bundles Are Getting Flipped for $5,000
Its already down to 3k. Value dropping fast. Hopefully those who put Auction get trolled aswell with "fake" bids.
Re: In the UK, PS5 Pro Has Already Completely Sold Out
@carlos82 yeah, 12,300 units for global launch is laughable. Imagine that they intend to sell 15million PS5 Pro in lifetime. 12,300 is like 0,08%...
Re: In the UK, PS5 Pro Has Already Completely Sold Out
@carlos82 i went to page 8:06. It stated that direct uk is on pause from 8:05. It let me in after 2 hours, I was in queue all that time. It was sold out as soon I tried to buy it. Thats my experience. That is about Pro 30th bundle. Regular PRO was available for lot longer.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Mod Removes PSN Login Requirement
@starbuck2212 you care. You are commenting lol
Re: 30th Anniversary PS5 Slim, DualSense Prices Leaked
@jrt87 you forgot vertical stand xD
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
Yeah, I like to see GOW Ragnarok on Steam. Great, but at same time it rubbers salt. Deluxe edition costs 59,99£, while on PSN is is just 79,99£. Steam takes 30% cut aswell. I am for great value for older games, but why not lower base price on PS5? Oh because they can do what they want. I am just salty, thats all.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Huge PS5 Pro Enhancements Are a 'Vast Improvement'
@caiol92 Sony told that 75% choses performance mode if there is choice. You are stuck somewhere in past. You do you, but 60fps is way to go.
Re: Blizzard Reportedly Made $150 Million in Diablo 4 Microtransactions
@2here2there why? Maybe average player doesnt like platformer type of games? As polished and good Astro Bot is, I will not buy it. I will agree, that game looks very good, but it is not for me. It feels booring for me. And I don't do MTX in Diablo 4, but I will play D4 without doubt for near future.
Re: Blizzard Reportedly Made $150 Million in Diablo 4 Microtransactions
@Rich33 don't worry. Prepare wallet for HL 2. It is coming in near future. And such things are not done o ernight. It is obvious that Warner Brothers didn't expect that Hogwarts Legacy will be one of the year popular game and Live service would flop. Now they turned the table and HL2 is priority.
Re: Blizzard Reportedly Made $150 Million in Diablo 4 Microtransactions
Its so sad Blizzard has made more money from me by real world merchandise than with in-game transactions
Re: Mini Review: Funko Fusion (PS5) - Bland, Cryptic Nostalgia Bait Lacks LEGO's Charm
Ehh, where is Blizzard cameos? I have 3 Diablo IV Funkos. And probably buy another 3 new ones this year. Those things are cute
Re: The Crew Motorfest's Generous PS5, PS4 Update Looks Like an Entire New Game
I have played a lot of Unbound. But that post launch development "soon" will end. Installing now that Trial version of Motorfest. Lets see how it feels.
Re: PS5 Fans Think Sony's Accidentally Leaked a Wireless PSVR2 Headset
Couldn't it be more likely battery level for PSVR2 controllers? And they use Headset icon so it is easily understandable?
Re: Prospective PS5 Pro Buyers Cause Disc Drives to Sell Out
@Rog-X which Pro enhanced game is still 30fps?
Re: Prospective PS5 Pro Buyers Cause Disc Drives to Sell Out
@NEStalgia look at bigger picture. Why would PS6 push higher GPU power for 4k 60fps? At this point we have reached console limits price/performance. There is no value and market for lets say 4k 120fps PS6, which would cost at best same price as PS5 Pro.
Imagine that 50% of active Playstation User base couple months ago was on PS4 systems. It will be so much harder to move people from PS5 to PS6 in4 years time. All games will come out on PS5 anyways, it will be 4k 30fps console for so long time. You will pick up PS6 if you want 4K 60+FPS, with PSSR 2.0, RT 2.0. That is my prediction.
Re: Prospective PS5 Pro Buyers Cause Disc Drives to Sell Out
@Ainu20 that is not Sony who is selling for that price. Those are likely 3rd party sellers. They can charge as much as they want.
Re: Despite Price Point, Analyst Firm Expects PS5 Pro to Sell Like PS4 Pro
But be realistic, PS5 Pro on its own should be compared to PS5 Digital version not with DiscDrive. It is 389£ vs 699£ (+1TB). It is way more than 50% increase.
Re: Sony to Short-Change PS Stars Members with PS Plus Renewals Starting Next Year
@Kevw2006 yeah, there is 0 backtracking. Only giving bonuses for new purchases. I guess that is intentional to push for extra purchases and give nothing for those who already did tasks before promotion.
Re: Sony to Short-Change PS Stars Members with PS Plus Renewals Starting Next Year
I have picked 10x 5£ till now.
But in general it is 4% Cashback. That means in 13 months you have to spend in PS Store atleast 125£ to get those 5£ and/or gain some points by completing tasks. I don't do any of those tasks. If you spend less per 13 months, then Stars program is good only for those collectibles.