@Steeleye50 Thankfully you can still use the pro controller from the OG switch and the joycons are compatible as long as the switch 2 games don't rely on the mouse function
@sd7232 reasonably easy. I do think it sold out temporarily but as most of that was before the current wars and pandemic there were never really any supply chain worries. And it probably sold out a bit easier because it wasn't overpriced for max profit at the time
@Golem25 agree! While everyone ends up delaying or released unfished buggy games, here comes RGG with all their swagger bringing forward their release dates.
Probably helps they only announce games that are near release, rather than announcing them 3 years prior to release cough square Enix cough
@Shalooda I get you. I think people want to make a point about people buying it encourages Sony to continue to make the price of their products ridiculously high.
I personally would love it, but just can't justify the price when games themselves aren't even properly optimised, and when Sony is putting in a pretty lazy effort this gen and basically just trying to coast on the success of the ps4
@Shalooda 🤣 Yeah I know what you mean, it will be nice IF Sony can actually release some good first party games, and if those releases are good and survive more then a couple weeks.
The PS5 Pro isn't selling out like the PS5 did, we obviously won't get the sales figures for a while but I'd be surprised if it sells as strongly as Sony might hope.
It was a good game although it wasn't worth a replay, although not many games today do (at least not when you're time poor and old). Definitely enjoyed it more than rebirth, which was a shame.
@Pinkman I don't think it's useful when you can buy a backbone or similar attachment and turn your phone/tablet into a portal for less than half the price, and have all the function of a portal except haptics.
Square enix has a habit of trashing franchises and dragging them out/milking them beyond the point that causes interest to wane unfortunately.
It's hit kingdom hearts (which was great but for the sake of sequels they trashed the storyline/made it excessively convoluted), and now FF suffers. 16 wasn't the worst game ever, but it's been ages since a quality story existed.
And regrettably the FF7 remakes are just outright milked games for money. And it probably sits with upper management, and some directors too (Nomura....).
Some exec probably went "wow, if we pad out and convolute this game we can sell three games instead!" Not realising/acknowledging the development costs would easily skyrocket, and the quality of the games would plummet.
And I think that's the biggest issue with square at present, they set these high sales targets, they gear up to make huge profits, and then they push out increasingly inferior games with bloat, miss opportunities with their new IPs(so they kill the IP) and degrade their existing IPs.
Nothing's changed unfortunately, and won't probably change ever at this rate
@nyr2k2 Yeah, it's extremely padded, and could've probably easily made two games tops if they didn't throw endless annoying minigames and Chadley at you every half an hour
Good! Sony has been a bit too arrogant after the successful PS4 era and the overpriced tech offerings like the 'handheld' and large PSplus price increases are evident of this.
Hopefully this levels the field and Sony will have to compete on delivering a decent service and not just running off their brand rep only.
@andrewsqual This is coming from a Sony fan, but their recent reveal sucked.
Minimal games, and trashy peripherals like the project Q(or whatever it was called). If it wasn't for square releasing some big titles later this year Sony would be in for a world of hurt
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Re: PS5 Price Increases Announced by Sony, Immediately Affects UK, Europe, and More
Sony obviously got sick of Nintendo getting all the news and wanted to get back into the headlines
Re: PS Plus Price Increases Confirmed for 15 Countries by Sony
And it's not that those countries can't stream ps3 games, it's simply that Sony refuses to make the service available.
Source: Australia
Re: Nintendo Is Displaying Hubris Which Would Make Even PS3 Era Sony Blush
@jorel262 I imagine the price of games will come down a bit after launch, although who knows what the go will be for you in the US.
Everything's about to get real expensive for you guys thanks to tarrif man so even PS prices could jump 20% in the next month..
Re: Nintendo Is Displaying Hubris Which Would Make Even PS3 Era Sony Blush
@eltomo but they mentioned the PS3
Re: Nintendo Is Displaying Hubris Which Would Make Even PS3 Era Sony Blush
@Kanji-Tatsumi I'm happy to pay that for a PS4 I can take and play on the train
Re: Nintendo Is Displaying Hubris Which Would Make Even PS3 Era Sony Blush
@Steeleye50
Thankfully you can still use the pro controller from the OG switch and the joycons are compatible as long as the switch 2 games don't rely on the mouse function
Re: PS5 Pro Is By Far the Best Way to Play Monster Hunter Wilds on Console
Well, same as PS4 and Monster hunter world then.
Horribly optimised game that could barely keep up a constant frame rate back then, sounds the same now
Re: Disgruntled PS5 Pro Owners Campaign to Disable Support After Slew of Shoddy Patches
@darylb24 it's a silly quote from USA 'the office'
Re: Disgruntled PS5 Pro Owners Campaign to Disable Support After Slew of Shoddy Patches
$699 well spent lol
Re: In USA, the PS5 Pro Launched with Similar Sales to the PS4 Pro
@sd7232 reasonably easy. I do think it sold out temporarily but as most of that was before the current wars and pandemic there were never really any supply chain worries. And it probably sold out a bit easier because it wasn't overpriced for max profit at the time
Re: PlayStation Has Swiftly Solved Its Profitability Problem
@Friendly yep, the jacked up prices even though their manufacturing costs would be decreasing definitely helps them deliver more profit.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS5 Pro?
If it was $100-$150 cheaper I'd have been tempted (aka PS4 Pro price). But nah, my pesos aren't infinite so I'll be waiting for the Switch 2.
Re: PS5 Pro Could Seriously Improve the Quality of Your PS4 Games
@Voltan in Oceania everywhere still has stock of the pro for order. Only thing sold out is the disc drive
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
Monster Hunter World struggled massively on the base PS4 as well, lots of slowdown and inconsistent frame rate. Really needed the PRO to be enjoyable.
Begs the question on whether the console is inadequate, or if Capcom is just really bad at optimising games
Re: Random: Forward-Thinking PlayStation Gamer Spends $2,000 on 24 Years of PS Plus
@riceNpea Well, one happy customer surely makes the PSVR2 a success!!!!
Re: Random: Forward-Thinking PlayStation Gamer Spends $2,000 on 24 Years of PS Plus
@BolkaRover Well, the PS3 had a pretty rough start and plagued with the unfriendly dev kit/processor, PS2 rocked. PS4 rocked. PS5 kinda big time meh.
Might mean the ps6 is better, but then the ps7 will surely be a disaster lol
Re: Random: Forward-Thinking PlayStation Gamer Spends $2,000 on 24 Years of PS Plus
@Digit2021 to USB drive if still a thing?
Re: Random: Forward-Thinking PlayStation Gamer Spends $2,000 on 24 Years of PS Plus
@riceNpea PSVR2 isn't really something to be using as an example of success though.
Pretty sure the sales have been underwhelming, and haven't seen a single person exceptionally happy with the VR offerings either
Re: Like a Dragon's PS5 Date Change Will Let You Play Monster Hunter Wilds with Peace of Mind, Director Says
@Golem25 agree! While everyone ends up delaying or released unfished buggy games, here comes RGG with all their swagger bringing forward their release dates.
Probably helps they only announce games that are near release, rather than announcing them 3 years prior to release cough square Enix cough
Re: Video: Top 10 Best PS5 Games of 2024 (So Far)
@Nightcrawler71 probably because it was a mid-tier game shrug
Re: Sony Product Manager Urges PS5 Fans to 'Settle Down' Over Ads
@CielloArc "listen peasants! With the intense advantage of hindsight, I can declare my 50/50 gamble was right!"
Re: Sony Product Manager Urges PS5 Fans to 'Settle Down' Over Ads
That's assuming it was a 'bug' and they didn't just backtrack on a feature
Re: Fans Appear to Be Coming Around to PS5 Pro
@CrashBandicoat You know that performance mode on PS5 means frame rate prioritisation over graphical detail?
E.g. Medium-low settings 60fps instead of medium-high settings at 25fps
Re: Fans Appear to Be Coming Around to PS5 Pro
@Shalooda I get you. I think people want to make a point about people buying it encourages Sony to continue to make the price of their products ridiculously high.
I personally would love it, but just can't justify the price when games themselves aren't even properly optimised, and when Sony is putting in a pretty lazy effort this gen and basically just trying to coast on the success of the ps4
Re: Fans Appear to Be Coming Around to PS5 Pro
@Shalooda They won't sell very many if that's what they charge.
At launch the PS4 was $400 (and then dropped to $350 later), PS4 Pro was $400, PS5 $500, PS5 Pro $700
If it's more than $550-600 they're going to doom themselves to low sales
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
@KeenAerondight agreed, and I don't think it's Sony having increased supply.
It's a big ask for a mid gen upgrade in a tight economic situation
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
@Shalooda 🤣 Yeah I know what you mean, it will be nice IF Sony can actually release some good first party games, and if those releases are good and survive more then a couple weeks.
The PS5 Pro isn't selling out like the PS5 did, we obviously won't get the sales figures for a while but I'd be surprised if it sells as strongly as Sony might hope.
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
@Shalooda Yeah, I can't wait for good first party games like Concord to come out.
-WAIT WHAT?!
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
@Wizpig17 You don't need it, not missing out on anything.
Your can relax now
Re: Sony Priming 'Even Less Exciting' PS5 Remaster for State of Play
Maybe it's yet another remaster of The Last of Us
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Huge PS5 Pro Enhancements Are a 'Vast Improvement'
@wiiware The story only gets more convoluted and distorted so you're not missing out much
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Huge PS5 Pro Enhancements Are a 'Vast Improvement'
And it can be yours, for the low low price of a kidney
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
Imagine how low the ps5 pro sales will be given the ridiculous price they want for it
Re: PS5 Pro Will Improve PSVR2 Games
How can you improve something that doesn't exist?
Re: PS5's Most Addictive Game Gets a Two-Hour PS Plus Premium Trial
Isn't this just Survivor.io?
Re: Directive 8020 Is the Next Dark Pictures Horror from Supermassive Games, Coming to PS5
@Icey664 Awww diddums
Re: Poll: One Year Later, What Are Your Thoughts on Final Fantasy 16?
It was a good game although it wasn't worth a replay, although not many games today do (at least not when you're time poor and old). Definitely enjoyed it more than rebirth, which was a shame.
Re: PS5's Streaming Handheld PS Portal Is Proving a Huge Hit
@Pinkman I don't think it's useful when you can buy a backbone or similar attachment and turn your phone/tablet into a portal for less than half the price, and have all the function of a portal except haptics.
Re: Sony Committed to Better First-Party Games, 'Richer' Experiences, More PS5 Users
@PuppetMaster Not all of those IPs were good though, and you can expect there won't be sequels for a number of them
Re: Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Fail to Meet Expectations on PS5
Square enix has a habit of trashing franchises and dragging them out/milking them beyond the point that causes interest to wane unfortunately.
It's hit kingdom hearts (which was great but for the sake of sequels they trashed the storyline/made it excessively convoluted), and now FF suffers. 16 wasn't the worst game ever, but it's been ages since a quality story existed.
And regrettably the FF7 remakes are just outright milked games for money. And it probably sits with upper management, and some directors too (Nomura....).
Some exec probably went "wow, if we pad out and convolute this game we can sell three games instead!" Not realising/acknowledging the development costs would easily skyrocket, and the quality of the games would plummet.
And I think that's the biggest issue with square at present, they set these high sales targets, they gear up to make huge profits, and then they push out increasingly inferior games with bloat, miss opportunities with their new IPs(so they kill the IP) and degrade their existing IPs.
Nothing's changed unfortunately, and won't probably change ever at this rate
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Sales Remain Muted in the USA, Compared to Past Games
@nyr2k2 Yeah, it's extremely padded, and could've probably easily made two games tops if they didn't throw endless annoying minigames and Chadley at you every half an hour
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Sales Remain Muted in the USA, Compared to Past Games
It also could be that a number of people are waiting for the inevitable intergrade version to be released.
Or cbb and will wait another 3-4 years for the final part to be released
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio Says No to Romance, Unlike the Persona Games
Even better!
It'll be good for once to have no whinging about 'why can't I romance xyz instead of zyx'
Game looks great
Re: Sony Has Stopped Updating PS Plus' Subscriber Numbers
After the recent price hikes, you can imagine the numbers dropped a fair bit
Re: PS5, PS4 Players Will 'Remain Welcome' As Xbox Closes $69 Billion Activision Blizzard Buyout
Good! Sony has been a bit too arrogant after the successful PS4 era and the overpriced tech offerings like the 'handheld' and large PSplus price increases are evident of this.
Hopefully this levels the field and Sony will have to compete on delivering a decent service and not just running off their brand rep only.
Re: Official PlayStation Earbuds Will Boast Noise Cancelling, USB Dongle for Lossless PS5, PS4 Audio
I think Sony should just let us use the WF/WH headphones/earphones
Re: Headbangers Is Rhythm Paradise Meets Fall Guys But with Pigeons on PS5, PS4
Looks fun, reminds me of Rhythm Heaven
Re: Reaction: Solid Xbox Showcase Should Give Sony Some Incentive to Stop Being So Damn Cloak and Daggers About PS5, PS4
@andrewsqual This is coming from a Sony fan, but their recent reveal sucked.
Minimal games, and trashy peripherals like the project Q(or whatever it was called). If it wasn't for square releasing some big titles later this year Sony would be in for a world of hurt
Re: Persona 3 Reload Won't Include FES or Portable Content, No Female Protagonist
@belmont You don't get off that easy in Persona 5 though
Re: Persona 3 Reload Won't Include FES or Portable Content, No Female Protagonist
@rachetmarvel This is a good take.
Hoping and expecting Atlus to more or less so what you think