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Arugula

I just focus on myself now. If I leave the house, I'm wearing a mask. Simple as that. When we go a couple of weeks with zero confirmed cases in my local area then I'll ditch the mask. It's something I anticipated having to learn to live with and I have.

Arugula

zupertramp

@Th3solution

Th3solution wrote:

And that wasn’t meant as a dig personally; I’m just adding to the discussion in general.

No worries here.

@Arugula That's my outlook for the most part as well.

Problem is when you have work, and your company is taking its cues from local leadership, and your local leaders are morons. My county is 5th out of 250+ in terms of deaths per capita but these people want to bring everyone back to the office despite working from home just fine since March. And they'll justify it using our county judge's recent lifting of the stay-at-home order.

It's like, are you people stupid? Nothing has really changed since this all started. Okay you don't have to be in the NBA to get a test anymore but other than that... same.

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LieutenantFatman

@Th3solution
To be fair, it's an excellent sermon! I wish I could articulate it as well as you, some inspiring wisdom there, well said.

@zupertramp
Not at all, nothing to forgive, I'm just reflecting on human behaviour like you. Seeing how differently people react to this pandemic certainly does shine a new light on where humanity is in the world today.

LieutenantFatman

Arugula

@zupertramp It's been a rudderless disaster from the top down. The type of work I do doesn't allow me to work from home so effectively nothing has changed and the fact I'm high risk has, and continues to consistently make me nervous. Especially considering I live in a hotspot being South Florida.

Arugula

Th3solution

@LieutenantFatman Thanks, boss. The fact that this pandemic has not unified the public but rather divided it, has me frustrated and deeply concerned about humankind’s capacity to coexist. Typically an external threat will bring people together to fight a common foe, but instead ideological schisms have widened. I think that aforementioned concept of pride and forgiveness could be at the core of why that has happened. People become too inflexible, perhaps because finger pointing will persist based on past mistakes.

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zupertramp

@Arugula Sorry to hear about your situation. I really do feel for those whose work necessitates their presence. Given our economy's reliance on the service sector, I'd imagine this is a lot of people.

So in South Texas we've got what we call Winter Texans. These are people, usually older retirees, who come down to our area for the winter from the Midwest (mostly Michigan for some reason). Do you have something like that in South Florida? Or are all the retirees already living there anyway?

@Th3solution Very well said. This all started I'd never have guessed something like protecting yourself with a mask would become Left vs. Right. I've always been a tad bit jaded but wow, did that take me by surprise.

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Arugula

@zupertramp Very much so. What you call Winter Texans we call Snowbirds. Our population swells by over a million here in SWFL. A lot do stay and the area is growing but the seasonal swell is synonymous with the areas business and economic infrastructure.

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RogerRoger

Wholeheartedly second everything @Th3solution has said, and is still saying. Wise words.

The role and influence of the media has a lot to answer for this year, as well. There's this grotesque rule they use for assigning importance to various stories each day, something along the lines of "one dead Brit is worth five dead Americans, ten dead French and a hundred dead Africans" (shuffle the nationalities around based on your own country of origin; it's still the same rule, no matter where you go) and so we often see a lot of these outbreaks dismissed off-hand, at least in their early stages. It was the same with Avian Flu and SARS several years back; nobody cared until it arrived on their doorstep.

Humanity is currently lacking a base level of empathy. We (speaking broadly) are too focused on what's in front of us, and how we can "win" for ourselves. Back in January and February, all our papers and news channels wanted to discuss was Brexit, so that was always top of the agenda. Dozens of dead Chinese? Bump that to page thirteen, where most people don't even read up to. It was their problem anyway, right? So if they can't contain it, it'll be their fault. We'll be alright.

Part of me wants to hope that, had everybody been given a broader picture, we'd have collectively handled the situation with compassion and responsibility, rather than trying to stick the boot in because hey, bad news sells and complaints generate clicks.

God, I hate being a civilian sometimes!

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zupertramp

@Arugula Ah I see. Duh, snowbirds. I must have known that.

Anyway I only ask because we're gearing up for that here and in my mind this doesn't seem like a good time to be easing up on restrictions but that's been the trend so far. I know there's the revenues they bring with them to think about but geez, does the concern for economics over all else have to be so brazen?

It's like, so much for rudderless right?

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Th3solution

@RogerRoger Yes, and you bring up an interesting point — that of civil apathy. Indeed, apathy is likely to be the more common threat to progress and developing global solutions than anything else. We (again, collectively speaking) are pretty myopic in our concerns. It’s particularly noticeable in the U.S. due to the large regional nature of the State system. Like you say, until it’s on our doorstep we tend to ignore it. I mean, yeah - sometimes it’s a coping mechanism, but sometimes it’s just plain apathy.

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RogerRoger

@Th3solution Agreed. It's always the problem with degrees; as you say, sometimes it's useful to shut down a little as a coping mechanism, but then you get used to shutting down and it grows into broader self-interest and general apathy. The old "one bar of chocolate is nice, but a hundred will kill you" argument. People get comfortable with their comfort and can drown in it, much to their detriment (and, as somebody who's currently treading those murky waters, I'm not quite sure what the answers are, either).

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zupertramp

sigh I know this isn't a Trump bashing thread but I cannot understand what's so enchanting about him to so many, especially in regards to his handling of Covid. Like this:

When asked about today's 200,000 deaths milestone here in the U.S., he remarked, "I think it’s a shame. I think if we didn’t do it properly and do it right you’d have 2.5 million deaths."

Yet just yesterday, at a rally, he's quoted as saying "It affects virtually no one."

How in the world can both things be true? 2 and half million people could have died from something that affects virtually no one?

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Arugula

@zupertramp To a degree I believe that they're (politicians, though Trump kind of isn't one) more or less cut from the same cloth and are largely a string orchestrated tool that gets danced around in front of the public as a punching bag while real decisions are made elsewhere but Trump is especially unintelligent. It's remarkable how often he manages to fit both his feet into his mouth so regularly.

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Arugula

zupertramp

@Arugula Thanks for the response. I just needed to rant a little. Though I don't so much want to go after Trump's flaws (I could) but I guess that's not ultimately my beef.

More broadly, it's the incoherence of the Right on Covid. It's a hoax, China needs to be punished, Vitamin C will ward it off, China made it in a lab as a biological weapon, it doesn't affect anyone, millions could have died, it'll disappear after the election, a vaccine is coming, you don't need a mask, BLM is endangering us all by not wearing masks, you should just live your life and not worry, you should worry about the mental health affects...

I mean holy mothballs! How does one's brain not buckle under the weight of all the inconsistencies?

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nessisonett

@zupertramp Don’t forget ‘BLM protestors are endangering us by not wearing masks’ despite Covid protestors currently in Trafalgar Square with no police on horses in riot gear...

Socks before or after trousers, but never socks before pants, that's the rule. Makes a man look scary, like a chicken.

Black Lives Matter. Enough is enough.

zupertramp

@nessisonett It's depressing enough keeping up with current events here in the US so I wasn't aware. But it sounds about right.

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Gremio108

Police in London forced to break up anti-lockdown protesters becuase they "didn't observe social distancing rules".

No disrespect to the police but I mean, what were they expecting?

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

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Kidfried

@Ralizah And the "law and order candidate" has already blamed soldiers and law enforcers.

I take the best thing to come out of this is him not being able to go on the road and campaign the next few weeks. For Trump that must be unfortunate timing, after last week's debate.

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