Topic: How Much Would You Pay for the PS5?

@seanobi The way 8k TV's are looking, Upscaling may well be better handled by the TV anyway. These are utilising AI to upscale and the more upscaling they do, the better they can predict and fill in the missing gaps. I would expect the next generation of consoles to be 8k capable by having HDMI2.1 ports. That doesn't mean I expect games to be 8k but certainly some could be. When you consider Fifa 17 runs at a Native 4k and 60fps on a PS4, there is no where to go with HDMI 2.0. If the PS5 is that much more powerful, Fifa will still be 4k/60 and the system would barely be running and have so much overhead. HDMI 2.1 could offer 8k/60 or maybe 4k/120. With VRR, games could run at 50fps, 113fps, 76fps etc with out any screen tear or 'judder' - even if the frame rate is unlocked and running between 60 and 100fps.

As for the Pro being a waste of money or becoming 'obsolete' after a few years, that is ridiculous. Its been a great 'half step' and delivers the 'best' Playstation gaming experience and has done for the past 26months. It will be the 'best' PS4 console for years after the PS5 launches - all Sony consoles have continued to be supported, continued to be made and sold for years after the next gen comes on the market. There are people that don't buy 'next' gen consoles for at least a year after they launch so are still benefiting from all the advantages that the Pro offers over the PS4 - its not JUST resolution either. The RE2 demo for example runs at 60fps with the odd frame rate drops here and there on the Pro yet on a PS4, its mostly between 40 and 50fps. Some games offer 60fps modes too so not only do you get better visuals, you also get a better, smoother gaming experience with more 60fps games. That may not be important to some people, but for others, frame rates and consistency can make a difference between a playable game and an unplayable mess...

I do feel sony is trying for $400.

I'd be happy throwing £400 at one. Which is actually £800 cause me and my fiancee have our living room set up with two consoles and two televisions so that's gonna be a rough Christmas.

I would really, really, really like it if they could keep the 400$/€ price point. Of course it was still "high", but this was one of the big reason PS4 did so well IMHO.

If the rumors of a PS5 that is fully backward compatible all the way to PS1 turn out to be true, and if it is region free, and fully supports 4K out of the box, and has no glaring drawback like an always online requirement or Kinect style always watching you camera...

Despite being the Nintendo die hard that I am, I'd buy a PS5 easily for 500 dollars. But I would hope it is closer to 350.

Now that the specs have been revealed, has anyone's answer changed?

@KidBoruto Specs don't really speak to me, but the backward compatibility is big for me. Going from 400 to 550 or something?

It sounds expensive but people need to get it out of there heads that it will be the same as building a PC. I be willing to pay 500 of my English pounds tops.

For the console plus 1 controller with no games
£400 for a 1 terabyte model
£500 for a 2 TB model
£550 for a 4 TB model
I’ll probably spend another £200 max on Games, PS+, Additional controllers and camera (assuming I need a new one for VR).
£750 max all in.

I hope PS5 excepts some kind of memory card that allows you to expand storage without impacting performance.

@JohnnyShoulder You guys in Europe must be filthy rich or have tiny 4KTV's. No offense, but spending a 5x more than a 1080p TV isn't that appealing given how small of a difference the increased resolution gives. 99% of the boost in graphics on the Pro is due to the hardware itself and not that it's able to output a 4K resolution.

My 50" HDTV was a hair under $300 while its 4K counterpart was $1599.99.

@Ryall Other than a few of the PS2 Classics on PS4, I noticed zero difference between playing on a disc or a digital game on my 4 TB HDD. And even those same PS2 Classics work flawlessly on my console's built-in internal hard-drive.

I would pay £399 for the console. Knowing how things are at launch in the UK, it will be bundled with random games and accessories, so will go up to £500.

Edit: Also hope good 4K TVs will be more affordable by that point, so add another grand on for that. My old 1080i tele is showing it's age.

Now that the Specs have been revealed - at least in part with quite a few unknowns (like RAM, Cooling, Clock Speeds etc), the fact it has a SS storage solution as well as HDMI 2.1 port(s) (required for 8k support - although could also allow 4k up to 120fps too for 'some' titles), a bluray drive as well as Spatial sound so probably Dolby Atmos support too, I really cannot see this being released for much less than $500 (technically $499.99 is 'less' I know but rounded it to the nearest $). Add in Backwards Compatibility which would probably need to be built in to the 'design' of the APU somehow to ensure the 'games' work as they should, I can't see it being 'less'.

Until I see the exact specs, inc the amount of RAM and the clock speeds, computational power, cooling etc my opinion is subject to change. If we take the Xbox X as a 'guideline', Something that didn't exactly have a cutting edge CPU but a reasonable GPU, 12GB of RAM and a lot of the 'next gen' features (4k Bluray, Spatial Sound, VRR, etc) - no Ray Tracing (maybe able to do 'some' ray tracing at the expense of resolution and/or frame rate), as well as great cooling solution - that came in at $500. Whilst it may have dropped in price over the year+ its been out, I wouldn't be surprised if its ~$400 around November 2019. Its £373 on Amazon ($485) and £400 in Curry's with some games ($520) - Prices in $'s at the Current Exchange rates of £1 = $1.30. Lets not forget that this is with a 1TB standard HDD too.

I just can't see Sony being able to release something with a significantly better CPU/GPU, at least the same RAM but probably more and faster, a SSD and all the 'features' mentioned for less than $500 - not without taking a big hit and losing a lot of money on each console sale. They could of course but the Price has to include a 48Gbps HDMI cable (for HDMI 2.1) as well as a 'controller' and charging cable, packaging, shipping/distribution costs, Retailer and distributor profit margins (distributors aren't going to ship them around the would for a loss and retailers aren't going to sell for a loss either so they need 'some' profit margin).

What someone maybe willing to pay though isn't necessarily the same as what the item will cost. If someone is only willing to pay $400 for it, that doesn't mean that the launch price will need to be $400, it may mean that person would be willing to wait until the Price 'drops' before they are willing to jump on board or at least see if can prove itself to be worth them spending more...

You’re right of course it would make much more sense to put a USB port faster than the internal SSD on the PS5. The next generation SSD is certain to be released into the PC space as well and taking advantage of that would give us cheaper storage.

The PS4 uses a standard laptop hard drive and therefore it is easy to do better than that either internally or externally. The drive on the PS5 will be faster than any currently available technology so any external drives we have today won’t be fast enough to run PS5 games. However I’m sure super fast drive will be plentiful a couple of years after the PS5 has launched. @TowaHerschel7

@TowaHerschel7 49" 4k Sony TV - £459 on Amazon but I'm willing to spend up to £1000 on one, maybe a bit more if it is worth it. Not sure why I should be explaining how i can afford those sort of prices though.

@JohnnyShoulder I'm not mad and don't expect you to say anything regarding that, I'm just salty because the cost of living is spiraling out of control here in the states. My household was safely middle class not too long ago and despite a few pay raises we're now well below the middle class income threshold.

I apologize for my saltiness.

We are all the mercy of a market that we have no way of predicting when we make our skill choices. Hopefully demand for your skills will pick up and you can rejoin the rich. @TowaHerschel7

@TowaHerschel7 no worries bud I used to be the same, I've been in the same situation but I've got a lot more disposable income these days.

Here's a strange article I found from a few years ago about SSDs

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/236260-samsung-plants-t...

This is not a coincidence. I have done additional research and the prices have been kept artificially high due to the bit coin boom and IT hardware having record sales. It wouldn't surprise me if the PS5 ssd solution set Sony back at most £30 a console.

The Ryzen 8 core can be had for about £300 - this is a PC blag and cost hardly anything to make in comparison (excluding the initial research and development) The Ryzen 6 cores price has been slashed around Mark Cernys presentation to under £70 this again is no coincidence. Bear in mind this is last year's stock but way ahead of what's inside the ps4 and x1.

www.techspot.com/amp/news/79708-ryzen-cpu-prices-fall-third-generation-chips-draw

I reckon Sony as a bulk buyer gets both the ssd and new chip for £100 a console. At a push £120.

I think Sony will launch a bare bones PS5 with 2tb HDD, 528ssd for £400-£450. They will watch what Microsoft are doing - but going by my (threadbare) research I can see them launching at £400. Ultimately a higher launch will depend on the tech in the bundled controller.