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JohnnyShoulder

@Th3solution Wasn't all that removed and then put back into the game, because of all the backlash? I thought the only things you can buy with real money are cosmetic items? Or are these classed as cosmetic items?

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

Th3solution

@JohnnyShoulder I don’t know. I think they sound more than cosmetic, but I’m not sure if it’s so far as to border on pay-to-win. After the initial backlash, I was wondering to what extent MT were quietly reintroduced. I actually bought the first Battlefront game on day 1, but it was a pretty large waste of money for me since I’m not that interested in online modes so I probably only played that game for about 6-8 hours total before I decided it wasn’t fun for me. My Star Wars fanboyism got the best of me then, but for BF2, I was able to resist buying it and the MT debacle made it that much easier to abstain.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

JohnnyShoulder

@Th3solution Yeah played the first ps4 game for a few hours and it was way too shallow for me, a bit of a Battlefield snob when it comes to these types of games.

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

RogerRoger

@KALofKRYPTON If only, eh?

@Th3solution In answer to your question, @JohnnyShoulder is pretty spot-on. There are two forms of currency in Battlefront II. Credits are unlocked via gameplay, challenges and a daily, free loot box, whereas Crystals can be purchased with real money via the PS Store, on a (pretty well-hidden) separate menu. They come in bundles; here in the UK, it's £1.99 for 200, £3.99 for 500, £7.99 for 1,000 and then £15.99 for 2,100 and £32.99 for 4,400 and I think we've all seen similar in other games.

Credits buy everything, but Crystals can only be used to purchase Emotes, Victory Poses and Appearances (what we'd call "skins"). The first two are pretty standard across the board; each Emote or Victory Pose will either cost you 2,000 Credits or 50 Crystals, so if you're absolutely dying to make General Grievous cough on command and Yoda spout some pseudo-philosophical sayings mid-battle, it'll cost you a couple quid. The Appearances, however, are where things get a little more expensive; many are tiered, and so Boushh Leia or Skiff Guard Lando will either cost you 80,000 Credits or 2,000 Crystals.

New characters and the Clonetrooper Battalion loot boxes can only be purchased with Credits. There is no cash shortcut. As mentioned, you can access all characters in the single player Arcade Mode, I guess to try before you buy, but otherwise they'll cost you thousands of Credits. I played Starfighter Assault for about two hours this morning and earned roughly 3,500 Credits (and I'm average-to-good at that mode, came second in one match). To get enough to buy a 35,000 Credit new character, therefore, you're looking at twenty hours of "doing pretty well" and I don't know about you, but I'm never able to be consistently good at online multiplayer.

There's the Millennium Falcon from Solo in there, also 35,000 Credits, which I'll never, ever unlock to use in multiplayer (and not just because it's the third variant of the darn thing in the game... variety still doesn't seem to be their watchword). By the time I claw my way back up to 35,000 Credits, I'll be forced to choose between Obi-Wan, Anakin and Dooku and then it'll be anybody's guess if I ever play the game enough to buy another after that, because I'll be kinda burned out.

Gone are the days of pay-to-win, thankfully. The third currency type, Spare Parts, that used to come in loot boxes have seemingly been discarded; they're what you used to use to upgrade your abilities, so theoretically you could spam loot boxes and give yourself 200% health or something before even playing a single match. Now you upgrade your abilities with Skill Points, which you're granted each time you level up a specific unit and can only be used on said unit, so you can specialise in being a Heavy on the ground or an Interceptor in space, for example; perhaps still not ideal, as really good players are only gonna get better the more they unlock and upgrade, so it still feels like it rewards the elite and subjugates the average, but hey, pride and accomplishment, right? I think you can convert old Spare Parts into any Skill Point of your choice, but you won't get any new ones if you're just starting out.

I must just add, though, that whilst matchmaking and loading times have been greatly improved (I mean, wow) it seems to have made the online multiplayer quite glitchy. Yesterday I spawned in with the character selection menu overlayed onto my screen, and my inputs controlled both my Battle Droid and the intruding menu, so I was shooting whilst selecting a weapon, etc. and it was really bizarre. I also finally got to use Grievous and his scuttle ability ran me up a wall and got me stuck in some geometry, at which point he just froze and I had to force a respawn. Not exactly smooth.

But with its story campaign which isn't amazing, but isn't terrible either, and all the different gameplay modes and maps completely free, I can probably recommend Battlefront II if you're a huge Star Wars fan with a spare week, and can find a copy for less than a twenty.

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Making It So Since 1987

Jaz007

@RogerRoger Can you (or anyone else) compare Battlefront 2 with Battlefield? I'm curious as to how similar it is. I'm a little tempted reading you talk about it, but then I just don't know.

Backkoggery ID: Jaz007

RogerRoger

@Jaz007 Unfortunately I've never played Battlefield myself, but my best friend has played both and she favourably compared the two. They're apparently very similar, although she noted that Battlefront II feels much more "arcade-y" because of the option to switch to third-person when on foot.

Most people play in third-person because it's supposedly easier to control, aim and keep track of everything, and that's certainly been my experience (I played the first Battlefront on PS4 exclusively in first-person, and yet have hardly ever played Battlefront II the same way, because the campaign made much more sense in third-person). The choice is always yours, however; the only time you're locked to third-person is when you're a Hero / Villain or when you're piloting certain ground vehicles. You can even fly starfighters in first-person, although they're accurate cockpits and so the field of view in some of them is extremely limited.

I'm sorry that I can't be of more help, but I don't ever plan on playing Battlefield, so if you've got any specific questions you'd like to ask about particular mechanics or anything, please do.

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Making It So Since 1987

Jaz007

@RogerRoger Can any non-shotgun weapon still easily snipe someone across the map?
How does vehicle spawning work?
How does hero spawning work?
How would you describe the TTK? (Especially compared to the first one)

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RogerRoger

@Jaz007 There is a Specialist class which is essentially a sniper; they come with all sorts of high-powered, slow-firing scoped blasters. I've rarely used them, though, because many of the standard Assault classes (like your garden variety Imperial Stormtrooper) have blasters which come with limited scopes. In the right maps, from the right positions, if you're able to get a bead on somebody then you're able to inflict some damage, maybe enough to kill them, but it isn't long before everybody notices the flashing neon laser bolts coming out of the bush you're crouched in, and then it's pretty much 50/50 (or it starts raining thermal detonators and you've gotta move anyway).

There are barely any weapons that aren't ridiculously obvious about being fired; every time I've been shot at from cover, especially from a distance, I've been able to react (unless it's by somebody who's fully upgraded a powerful sniper rifle and they score a headshot, but then I usually applaud them whilst waiting to respawn, because skills). The flashy visuals and iconic sound design of blasters give you much greater awareness than I'd imagine bullets do.

Vehicle and hero spawning works via Battle Points. As you play, you'll earn BP through certain actions; obviously scoring kills, but also playing the objective or assisting in the takedown of an armoured unit or vehicle, or sometimes even avoiding death for a certain amount of time. The respawn screen shows all available units for the game type you're currently playing; the four standard classes, the bonus classes (folks with jetpacks and rocket launchers, for example, or Super Battle Droids and Wookiees), the vehicles and the heroes. The latter three cost BP to use and are tiered, so hopping on a Speeder Bike may cost you 500 BP but an AT-ST will cost 1,000 and playing as Kylo Ren will cost you 3,000 BP (those are ballparks; I tend to just go "ooh, these aren't greyed out any more" and don't really notice the numbers). If you immediately die, tough luck; you've got to earn the BP all over again.

There can only be one of each hero active at any one time, so don't expect to fight a wall of Vaders, but vehicles and the bonus classes have caps, so they may say "Max Number in Play" even if you've got more than enough BP. Some feel fairer than others; starfighters over a ground battle tend to explode a lot and so there's a lot of chance to grab one, and they're cheap as a result, but some tanks (like the Trade Federation's AAT on Naboo) are almost indestructible, so you've got to be quick or lucky if you really wanna drive one. There are also sometimes the massive units, like the AT-ATs on Hoth, which you can use BP to temporarily control the turrets of, but you're on a timer to keep it fair.

Because of the ability to customise and upgrade the Star Cards / abilities of your various classes and characters, the TTK (had to Google that; my online multiplayer experience is literally this and Uncharted 4) can be all over the place. For example, the Officer class can give up to a 75% health boost to themselves and any surrounding soldiers which wears off gradually, whilst the Heavy class can throw up a personal deflector shield at the expense of walking speed and the dodge roll. There are even Star Cards for soldiers and starfighters which straight-up just "increase maximum health" and if you've fully maxed one of those out, you're looking at a permanent 150% health bar, sometimes more if combined with some of the other things mentioned above. Rounding a corner and running into a standard Assault class, however, and you're looking at six or seven body-shots, or two solid headshots, for your average takedown.

Heroes are obviously the toughest to take down, but only when being used by somebody who knows how to use them; many a time I've lucked out and grabbed a hero I'm unfamiliar with, and died within seconds (and they're obviously everybody's favourite target, too, so expect to be swamped). Some starfighters also come with R2 units that can carry out repairs on command, meaning if you're chasing somebody and don't keep up a steady barrage of hits, any damage you may have done can be erased in seconds.

It never feels unfair, despite all of that, though. Even the largest maps focus your objectives to pinch points which mean you can be the toughest, most skilled Rebel in the galaxy, but you're still gonna get spotted by a dozen Stormtroopers and there's nothing you can do, and weapon upgrades can often balance against health buffs. There's an element of luck involved, of course, but I'd stop short of calling it cheap.

Well... no, scratch that, it felt cheap before, when people could pay to win. Three days after launch I was playing Heroes Vs. Villains and there was a Darth Vader with 200% health and a Force Choke with maxed-out range and damage. He was all over the place but it didn't matter, he still won.

A year later, it's a much more even playing field.

PSN ID: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

Jaz007

@RogerRoger That was an incredible response. Far more detailed than expected. Hats off to you and thank you man. I might pick it up at some point. It sounds like a solution to the FPS MP itch since I have no interest in BFV and might want to play something other than Battlefield 1 sometime soon.

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tomassi

@RogerRoger I had Star Wars Battlefront 1 back in the day and, being an offline gamer I didn't love it until my now 7 year old son started playing it offline with me and we had a good bit of fun in that. He wasn't interested in SWBF2 at all though for some strange reason so I've not really any clue as to whether its good or not. The best thing with Battlefield and Battlefront games, give it a couple of years after release and they are dirt cheap so will probably pick it up then. I bought Battlefield 1 the other day, digitally, for £3.99 with free premium pass. Even if you just get a few hours entertainment from the campaign that's more than worth it. I recall SWB1 went down to that price point as well so guessing SWB2 will do as well, especially as it was received so negatively.

tomassi

tomassi

This weekend I hope to play Red Dead Redemption 2 having just got it the other day. I've barely started it so want to get involved in that. I will also, undoubtedly play some PES 2019 and maybe AO International Tennis. My other fave thing to do at the moment is photo mode in the likes of Battlefield 1, No Mans Sky, HZD and Steep. So will probably try and do that as well.

In reality it will probably involve doing something else whilst my son plays Fortnite.

tomassi

RogerRoger

@Jaz007 My pleasure. Glad you found it useful; best of luck if you do jump in, there are certainly some spectacular moments to be had. It's just a shame it was so badly handled and that EA's nonsense has cast such a long shadow over what is otherwise a really solid, entertaining experience.

@tomassi Oh, absolutely; for a twenty or less, I'd definitely recommend Battlefront II because there's a heck of a lot more content than the previous game (and yes, you can still play splitscreen co-op with your son in Arcade Mode, too). I can certainly see it being something that'll pop up in a few sales, or indeed bargain bins if you're browsing a store, and with all the free maps and game modes there's plenty there to keep you busy for more than a weekend or two.

PSN ID: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

KALofKRYPTON

@beemo My daughter is 140 hours or so in to Disgaea 5, and with the next Pokemon being the Let's Go games (which have disgusted her 11 year old sensibilities) and Disgaea 1 Complete looking like her next game - it seems that the pocket monsters have been dethroned!

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NecuVise

There was battlefront 2 for 8$ digital. The lowest physical I've found it was 9 GBP but I didn't buy it because there were many other single player games I had to play. Anyway, I'd really like to play it, it seems fun.

NecuVise

tomassi

@beemo Yeah, as soon as I die a couple of times in some game I immediately turn it off and revert to PES!! I have to say, IMO, PES 2019 is the best iteration I've ever played. Graphically it is amazing and since the update the gameplay has been ace. I love it. Last year with PES I was bored by now.

I've not had my son move on to Sims yet, it seems fairly complex for a 7 year old. He's more into PvZ:GW2, Minecraft, Goat Simulator, Fortnite, Lego Worlds etc. To be honest, other than the fact I don't actually want him to spend his whole time gaming, I think those games are fine for kids that age.

tomassi

tomassi

@RogerRoger Yeah, I'm in no rush to be honest. I picked up the first one for another Playstation round his grandparents house for £3.99 with free season pass, and the other day I also picked up Battlefield 1 for the same for myself, as well as Battlefield 4 and Hardline in the past for similar sums. These games always seem to hit rock bottom soon enough and seeing as I'm not actually an online gamer I'm more than happy to wait. Funnily enough, my favourite bit about Battlefield 1 is actually using spectator mode in multiplayer maps and just moving around the field taking cool photos and screenshots. I don't even play the game!!

tomassi

JohnnyShoulder

@tomassi @beemo Yeah same here with PES, it's my go to game when i fancy a break from my main game or something a bit different to shooting people in the face.

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

KratosMD

Played some more RiME today. I'm finding the game more enjoyable when I'm not trying to explore everything. I remember that I sort of got tired of it during my first session since there were puzzles that I couldn't figure out that weren't part of story progression and it just ruined the pacing for me. So now I'm only going to play it as casually as possible. It's a very relaxing game though and I'm enjoying it thoroughly.

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JohnnyShoulder

@KratosMD Totally adored Rime. It's another one of my indie recommendations.

Reminded me a bit of Zelda BOTW with the art style. And the whole game felt like an extended version of the shrines.

Don't wanna say too much story wise as this is best experienced for yourself and I have a feeling this might especially pull the right stings for you.

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

RogerRoger

@tomassi This made me smile...

tomassi wrote:

Funnily enough, my favourite bit about Battlefield 1 is actually using spectator mode in multiplayer maps and just moving around the field taking cool photos and screenshots. I don't even play the game!!

...because that's basically what I do with Battlefront II.

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I do feel bad sometimes, y'know, not contributing to the match. It's why I didn't start doing this until a good month or two after launch, and if I saw other players approach me and jump / emote / shoot at me, I'd re-apply the HUD and join in.

But it's just so gorgeous!

PSN ID: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

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