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Stevo8576

Hey, I'm just trying to work out what the point of achieving platinums is if there are no incentives or rewards. I've recently got platinums for Control, Horizon, and Rise of Tomb Raider on the basis that once I got over 80% of trophies, I might as well get the platinum. The thing is most of the time I enjoy getting most of the trophies until about 90%. By then it seems like I might as well get the platinum even if it has become boring but I'm beginning to think that it's just pointless as there are no incentives or rewards. Could game developers not introduce in game rewards (outfits/weapons/cut scene etc) or Sony introduce rewards for high profile platinum trophies. I know in the US you get a discount from the PS store for 10 platinums but not in the UK!

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themcnoisy

@Stevo8576 trophies are a record of achievement, locking rewards behind platinums would be great - if the plats are fair.

The reality is, I too have found the last few trophies a grind on many of the games recently. Either delete the game or close the app, it's not worth the bother. Fair play to those who go all out for the bling.

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Areus

@Stevo8576 Up Until Last November You Used To Get Points For Every 10 Platinum's You Got That You could Exchange For Stuff Like Psn Cards Games And Other Stuff

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Stevo8576

Ok thanks for the replies. It just seems like a pointless exercise if there are no rewards. For many games getting a platinum isn't easy and quite a long grind. Rise of the Tomb Raider being one example. You get a slight sense of achievement but then thats it. If there were incentives and rewards then getting a platinum would seem far more desirable and rewarding. I have a few games where I'm on about 95% trophy completion but just don't see the point in getting the platinum.

Stevo8576

Arugula

I don't find any personal satisfaction. I even turned the trophy notifications off. Unless I'm generally working towards it through basic game progression and I really like the game, it isn't happening.

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Ralizah

Stevo8576 wrote:

I know in the US you get a discount from the PS store for 10 platinums but not in the UK!

WHAT

I haven't heard about that!

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BranJ0

Trophies have never really appealed to me - whenever I've finished a game and then go trophy hunting I get bored and close the game after 20 minutes. It just doesn't do anything for me. Outfits and stuff as a reward would be cool, but I still don't think that would be enough for me to slog through games for tens more hours just to get them. I'm very happy just finishing a main story, doing a few interesting extras and then leaving it be.

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LieutenantFatman

More bragging right than anything. Or sometimes gives you something to aim for if you want more time with the game before moving on. Generally they are pretty meaningless, it's true, but that feeling on unlocking that super rare trophy can be quite addictive.

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Stevo8576

Ok fair enough. Disappointing it stopped as the scheme seems like a good idea and an incentive to getting those platinums! The thing is, getting platinums is at the moment pretty meaningless, but it doesn't have to be. How hard would it be for game developers to introduce rewards either in game or through emailing a redeemable code for example. Otherwise there is no point in grinding unless the game and getting those last few trophies is enjoyable.

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icecube

I've always thought there should be some kinda e-monetary value to trophies.

Let's say a bronze is worth 1p, silver 5p, gold 20p and play 50p. Given that most games have c.40 trophies, mostly bronze we could calculate that by getting the plat on a game you would bag yourself roughly £1.50 of PSN credit. Which would prob increase revenue because people will top up their own money to buy a game or they could buy towards a digital game that they may have bought physical which would increase the direct revenue to Sony.

But alas, we'll be so lucky.

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JohnnyShoulder

I think people would abuse it though by getting easy platinums on vita and such.

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RogerRoger

@Stevo8576 Sony emailed me with a reward code the day after I earned the platinum for Marvel's Spider-Man and, when I popped it in, I unlocked an exclusive PSN avatar of Spidey's face beside a little platinum trophy. I'm currently "wearing" it on my profile; I think they do the same for many of their exclusives (have seen ones for God of War and Horizon, at the very least).

It's a new thing, and admittedly a small gesture, but I appreciated it. Might be a sign of things to come.

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Stevo8576

@RogerRoger Ok that sounds promising. I recieved the same for my platinum on Detroit Become Human. Any reward to give people an incentive towards achieving those platinums would be great. Hopefully a sign of things to come. It doesn't have to be an avatar as there are other rewards they could give. I do understand that a scheme offering a monetary discount reward on the PS store could potentially and would most likely be abused by people getting easy platinums and trophies for example. However I'm sure there are rules which could be implemented to prevent this. For example, only applies to platinums which take over 15-20hrs to achieve or platinums with less then 1 or 2% achievement rate.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Stevo8576 I think it is totally up to the developer if they gift you something for getting a platinum. I'm not aware of any non Sony games that do this though, but they have been doing at the very least since Bloodborne. I'm not a massive trophy hunter so it makes no difference to me either way. It's cool but wouldn't make me wanna grind for hours just to get an avatar or a wallpaper. I'm all about if the game is still fun and the last few trophies are achievable whether or not I go for a platinum.

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Rudy_Manchego

I personally quite like the Trophy system. I wouldn't call myself a trophy hunter but I have played a few games and gone out of my way to get the Platinum or even done some easy plats just because I could or they were there. I would suggest over half my platinums are either super easy or took very little additional effort.

I don't place much store by whether someones trophy list means much. I once had a guy (who, I think, had issues), try and push in front of me at a PS queue at EGX claiming he had way more platinums than me.

However, I think there is satisfaction in getting them and if implemented well, a good trophy list can really engage me more with the game. I've said it before, but going for the Platinum in Horizon Zero Dawn was quite fun - it made me explore more, go to every inch of the map and there was some great additional combat challenges that I would have completely ignored. I'm currently trying (and failing) to get the platinum for Bloodborne (for those interested, tried to beat the defiled watchdog at least 30 times now and only got him down half health) because i wouldn't have engaged with a lot of additional content if I hadn't.

That said, a lot of Trophy work is often really grindy and I have no issue in going through a game and not getting trophies if I don't think it is worth it and I also play games on other systems. Rewards would be nice but I think it gives people some enjoyment out of their purchases then go for it.

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BAMozzy

There has been occasional reward for unlocking a Platinum - screensaver for example.

Personally, I have little interest in the Platinum or trophies in general - that being said, if it fits in with what I want to do, then I will go for it. I have the Platinum on a few games - Infamous: 2nd Son, Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War for example - but on the whole, those are games I enjoyed playing and wanted to do 'everything' and the trophies aligned with that. Titanfall 2 on the other hand, after beating the game and getting all but 2 trophies, I am NOT bothered about getting those just for a Platinum. Its the run the gauntlet ones under certain times. I just couldn't be bothered to keep trying and trying - doing something I wasn't enjoying for a trophy.

Its the same with Trophies tied to Multiplayer if I don't like the MP, or speed-running a game, beating the game on 'difficulty' settings that are not available at the start etc. Things like that do not align with my interest or enjoyment. I am not going to spend time in a MP just to get to level 50 for a trophy, not going to rush through a game, not going to play the game after I have already completed it when I have other games I actually want to play - but some people seem to only want to play games for the trophies/achievements. A game isn't finished until the platinum has been achieved or play a game just because it has an easy platinum. For some its a 'bragging' right - I have 100 platinums so must be better than everyone who has 99 or less so the 'reward' is getting more platinums than others.

Whatever their motivation, that's up to them and should be up to you. If you don't want to or not enjoying a game, then why keep playing? why do you have to have that platinum? Is it better to just move on to something you want to play, go for trophies that maybe you will enjoy achieving - even if its just a bronze? People are different and its up to you to decide IF that Platinum is 'reward' enough for you to go for it, the satisfaction of getting it or would it be better for you to decide when you are finished with the game and move onto something else. I can't tell you whether you should push through and get the platinum or move on to something else - that is up you to decide. Maybe on a game by game basis...

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MS7000

As pointed out by others in this thread, some platinums do reward you with something like an avatar or a theme (or multiples of each). Most recent platinum I got was for Persona 5 Royal which unlocked 3 themes and some accompanying avatars. I am still actively using one of those themes at the moment. That specific platinum also helps that it did not feel like I went out of my way for it as I got if after one playthrough of the game.

It would be nice if other developers would do this too, but ultimately, I feel the whole point of the platinum trophy is bragging rights; the reward is the self-satisfaction of knowing you did everything you could and being acknowledged for it and anything else is just extra. You could also say that in some cases it speaks of how much you enjoyed the game that you were willing to put in the effort to get the platinum trophy since some games I would say are not enjoyable for getting the platinum trophy, for example, Rayman Legends; not hard, but time-consuming (not necessarily true for all games though, some platinums are extremely easy to earn). But to build on that point, don't bother with getting platinums if you don't feel you going to enjoy it enough for it to be worth it.

Stevo8576 wrote:

I do understand that a scheme offering a monetary discount reward on the PS store could potentially and would most likely be abused by people getting easy platinums and trophies for example. However I'm sure there are rules which could be implemented to prevent this. For example, only applies to platinums which take over 15-20hrs to achieve or platinums with less then 1 or 2% achievement rate.

That would be kind of cool, but I certainly wouldn't use achievement rate as a criteria because then it becomes a rat race to obtain the platinum first before anyone else which means you are not enjoying the game at your own pace. You could say enjoy the game at your own pace anyway and if you get the platinum and the reward, hooray, but I feel that defeats the point of having the incentive in the first play since the person who enjoys the game at their own pace regardless has consciously chosen to say that the incentive is not worth the trophy.

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