
The PS5 is now officially five years old, having launched across the US, Europe, and most other major markets by this time back in 2020.
So, now that we have half a decade of experience with Sony's current-gen console to draw on, we want to know what you really think of the PS5.
Has it lived up to expectations? Have the games been good enough? How much longer does its lifecycle need to be, now that there's near constant chatter about the inevitable PS6?
Granted, these are all fairly loaded questions, because this has been an undeniably uneven console generation.
We can't forget that things got off to a rocky start thanks to the global pandemic. Production was crippled, and Sony's overall operations had to be adjusted to a significant degree. In short, it felt like the PS5 had no real footing over its first couple of years on the market.
Still, the system was selling out over and over again, and exclusive titles like the Demon's Souls remake, Returnal, and Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart were showing what the console was capable of.
But the limited PlayStation Studios release schedule quickly attracted criticism. Key developers like Naughty Dog were nowhere to be seen — beyond The Last of Us' multiple remakes and remasters — and Sony's push for live service was met with plenty of protest from fans who had witnessed the success of the PS4's single player, blockbuster strategy.
This has ended up being a fairly common criticism across the generation, but then the industry as a whole has seriously struggled post-pandemic. Ever-rising development costs and the mounting pressures of chasing the live service dream have crippled entire companies.
The past five years have had their ups and downs, then, but the PS5 itself has stood strong in face of everything — including some very divided opinions. The system's on track to be one of Sony's most successful ever consoles, and it continues to make the firm an absolute fortune.
But again, this is about your perspective. Have your say on the PS5 through our polls, and then unleash your full opinion in the comments section below.
What's your overall opinion of the PS5, five years later? (3,642 votes)
- I absolutely love the PS5
- It's a great console
- It's good, but it could have been better
- It's just okay -- nothing more, nothing less
- It's been a disappointing console
- It's an awful system 0.7%
- I've never owned a PS5
How would you rate the PS5's game library up until now? (3,272 votes)
- Outstanding
- Excellent
- Great
- Good
- Not Bad
- Okay
- Poor
- Bad
- Terrible 0.9%
- Abysmal
When would you be ready for the PS6 to release? (3,301 votes)
- 2026
- 2027
- 2028
- 2029
- I don't want a PS6 at this point





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As a gamer who began gaming in the Atari 2600 days, the PS5 pro will be my final console. I am pretty much done
It's been excellent so far, there's been a lot of amazing games and I've put more hours into my playstation this gen than I have any previous gens.
The game library is unbelievably good. It's all of PS4, plus all of PS5, plus classics, plus remasters & remakes, there's more good game to play now than ever in history. And they're so accessible and often cheap. Best console ever, for me.
I don’t regret getting the PS5. Am I disappointed on certain aspects? Yeah, but still happy overall.
I know there was Covid but 5 years on, this is not a good generation. Compared to the PS2 and PS4, the first party offerings that are exclusive to the PS5 have been MIA or a disappointment. The sad part is that the console itself is incredibly solid and it’s the best place to play PS4 games and third party games. I would rather play a lot of games on PS5 than my PC but Sony have a lot of studios and I’m not sure they’ve all been earning their keep. Poor Insomniac are carrying things.
I'm in no rush for another system, I jave a massive backlog of excellent ps4 and ps5 games and some ps3 games as well
PS5 has not been the best generation take in the factors of COVID, price, availability, development issues with games during that time. And a few choices from Sony themselves really had made this gen GOOD in my view.
There leap from PS4 to 5 wasn't that big and to be honest I wasn't expecting it as even GPUs at that time for PC really didn't either. Plus the fact Devs were getting lazy with optimization and pushing for what PS5 could achieve also played a factor.
Then PS4 had a far bigger user base at launch and they had to support that for many years which also held it back. I see 2028 the year for PS6 to be the best time to launch because PS5 really can have a good 3 more years and hopefully they will use it to it's full potential
Ps4 got better library of games.but ps5 got x box games now which is huge.i do enjoy and miss the lights that the ps4 got on the controller. But Playstation is the g.o.a.t. 🐐 👑 of video games. Been a fan since day 1 here in queens new york in September 9.1995.word up son
Its been ok nothing more sony has ruined this gen for us playstation gamers chasing the live service dream so we've hardly any exclusives nothing from naughty dog either except remasters luckily we've had a massive amount of 3rd party great games and Microsoft exclusives have been released on playstation as well
@Junghova yeah I’m with ya. I haven’t been gaming as long but, as long as I can keep playing my library, and disc traders ( like a local GameStop but better pricing)exist, I’m going to be putting larch chunks of money like that elsewhere. honestly there is going to be a point where the boost in graphics becomes unrecognizable to the human eye. I’m pretty sure we are very close to that point. Another reason for me to stick with ps5
@nessisonett LOL
One thing that makes PS5 better than PS4 for me is simply Backwards Compatibility -that just not plays games as they were but makes them better.
I think PS5 has been nice, and Astro Bot is probably my favourite game in a long time-but the sappy narratives are getting too pretentious and indicative of The Last of Us. I know our culture influences how games are now, but SONY ought to take some creative risks-though I don't mean like Concord.
I’m happy enough. Good console. Library OK. 8/10
PS6 needs something to really make me want to upgrade though. More first party games would help but it’s diminishing returns graphics wise.
Its not a leap but a mere step The fact everything's quicker is down to Technology Sony did not make I got one Brand new at Currys last Friday for £290 with FC26 considering the £300 I paid for my PS4 I think I got a bargain the reason I got a PS5 was because my PS4 was getting cranky plus Rafael from Hinterland who is the Head guy of The Long Dark thinks the PS4 is struggling to cope with the long Dark so there ya go roll on PS6.
@JDINCINERATOR I hear you. Killzone needs to come back! And new things.
Need more first party games for sure.
Everything is so expensive and takes so long to make though.
The hardware itself is great, as is to be expected from Sony. The software, especially the first party lineup, has been good, but nowhere near as good as last gen (and especially the PS360 gen).
Due to the PS4 backwards compatibility alone PS5 is awesome.
Just bought me a ps portal now when you can stream ps5 games without ps5. I really enjoy it and hoping for atleast 2 more years gaming on it.
PS5 is a great console and I have had a blast the whole generation. What I wanted out of a new PS5 was great games to play on it and significantly reduced loading times, and I got both!
The common theme around this generation for many is the lack of exclusives, which is a sentiment I get but just don't share. When a fantastic game like Ghost of Yotei or GOW Ragnarok comes along, I rejoice like everyone else. But I have more great games to play than I can shake a stick at, and my backlog is huge. If they stopped developing games right now, I would not be able to get through all the ones I want to play that exist right now in my lifetime. I am simply not hurting for games, and I don't really care if they are exclusive or first party or not.
I have had a lot of fun this generation, and gotten tons of use out of my PS5. That is all that matters to me.
I am afraid that the OpenAI deal to tie up forty percent of the world’s DRAM supply is going to greatly affect the price of the PS6.
I honestly do not see how that is legal and why the media is not giving more attention to the story. During the pandemic, when there was a shortage of computer chips, there were articles everywhere. And this is different than GPU prices during the height of crypto mining. That was individuals buying up all the cards for their mining rigs. This is one company responsible for the supply constraints. Certainly there must be some anti-monopoly legislation or government oversight that could prevent a single company from controlling that much of the supply chain.
Overall happy with my ps5 got it day one as with most of my ps consoles. Granted the number of exclusives hasnt been much as previous gens but still we had some amazing games and to play. Honestly i could wait another 3-4 years for ps6 as i dont feel the ps5 has been pushed to its limits yet. But yea a solid console
The console itself is amazing, I have had 0 issues with it like I did with a ps3 and 4. It's super fast and responsive. 3rd party software has been amazing, 1st party has been awful. And any accessories or extra attachments/enhancements/revisions have been dreadful especially in price
System is great, really don't think we need PS6 for a while. The ssd and controller were highlights. PlayStation first party output could have been a lot better but we had horrible people in charge.
I’m relatively new in the PlayStation ecosystem. The PS5 being my first complete experience, not counting the brief period I had a PS2 when I was young. I was and remain a Nintendo guy mostly, but some games on the PS5 made me switch over from Xbox. I don’t know if I’m gonna keep up with consoles, just because gaming as a whole is becoming increasingly pricey to maintain. I’ve foregone my Switch OLED to go back to having only one console (two games libraries is too much for my budget), but it’s possible I might drop PS entirely to go with the Switch 2 if nostalgia hit really hard in 2026. I really don’t know.
That said, I think PS5 has been amazing and I continue to really love my experience with the Pro, plus the DualSense many features are just amazing and absolutely worth it, I enjoy the phone calls in Cyberpunk 2077 coming out of the controller’s speaker and the haptic feedback is a must have to me. I will probably hold onto that console a little longer, since I upgraded to the Pro this year. I am not ready for another generation of consoles right now. I spent thousands on rebuilding my game library from my old days with Xbox and also tons of accessories such as the PSVR2 and usually consoles don’t support old accessories entirely when a new gen is released so I’ll wait, I don’t want to feel like I’ve wasted too much time and money on a console. Would be sorely disappointed if they announced the PS6 right after they release their officially branded PS5 speakers and monitor.
Bottom line, I am having lots of fun with my PS5 Pro and all its features, I won’t spend another thousand on a new console next year or the next two years either. I have enough games and enough fun with what I have right now.
I have found this generation the least exciting. I have owned every PlayStation since 1995.
The DualSense controller is also the first I have owned to experience stick drift. PS1 and PS2 controllers/sticks are built better. I learned to solder though.
In terms of first party it’s been underwhelming for me. Third party have filled in the gaps though. Sony seem to have dropped the ball in terms of SP releases while chasing the live service dream.
In terms of hardware I do love my pro. It’s a great bit of kit but due to the seriously long cross gen feel even now we’ve not seen the best of its capabilities.
This gen has been nothing short of amazing for me personally. The return of Silent Hill, RE4 Remake, a new Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, remasters and remakes of games I never had the chance to play, etc.
I’d be fine with no PS6 until 2029 honestly.
@Saucymonk Great constructive comment. Really adding to the conversation here.
Console- Great ! Super quiet, been super reliable, enjoy gaming with higher framerates 4/5
Software- the most of what I have played has been very good.
Mostly disappointed in the lack off any new intellectual properties and the slow pace of sonys first party releases.
2/5
Overall 3/5
Great system, best controller ever, pairing with steam deck works wonderfully, exclusives are boring beyond belief. Moving to California was biggest mistake. Luckily it's not my only system and and I don't have a shortage of great games to play.
Excellent console and great games but I think it hasn’t given us its defining game yet.
My favorite titles so fare are FFVII Rebirth, Returnal, Astrobot, Death Stranding 2 and Stellar blade.
Great, great and 2028.
It is a good console but it is because I have the original Phat Model. You know the one with the built in drive
Also because of the "5 on the five" it sounds like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUqGtjj8PVQ
The machine itself is awesome. But tthe library is disappointing at this stage of the life cycle….
I’ve been really happy so far. I’ve enjoyed most of Sony’s exclusives but it would be stupid to rate this generation solely on the lack of them because there have been some amazing third party AAA and indie games imo.
I wish I had the time that some of you do. I adore my PS5 and my backlog is huge. I'm a patient gamer and cannot keep up with how many great games are released for the system every year.
The only problem with the console is the library of first party games have been so spread out. Usually towards the middle of the console life it just takes off with games or it did with prior generations. But it’s not necessarily PlayStation as it is that the development has ballooned to 5 years or more for a AAA game.
They mentioned in the past about creating AA games to fill in between but have not seen or heard nothing since.
And we all aware of the push for live service games. Which I enjoy them if they are appealing. But the cancellation of certain games has definitely made a gap between other first party titles.
Sony also mentioned bringing back IPs from the past which I would enjoy. Also fostering and owning IP’s over buying out companies. It just doesn’t happen over night unfortunately.
Big fan of the system's functionality. It looks and plays great. Loading times are mostly a thing of the past. I'd vastly prefer they wait 3-4 years for PS6 and focus more on optimizing games. I've yet to hit a wall where I felt like my game experience was reduced because the system just couldn't keep up. It is lacking in unique experiences. GoW Ragnarök is great, but feels like GoW 2018. Spiderman 2 and Miles, both great looking versions of the PS4 game. Fun, yes, but "been there, done that" in a lot of ways. Everything feels safe, and I get it. They might have to sell 10, 15, 20 million copies to make a profit because games cost as much as a stadium to make. We should be at a stage where developers know the system and can make a game more cost-effectively and gamble a bit more on the experience.
It’s been fine, but I think it peaked too soon. Nothing has topped Demon Souls and Ratchet and Clank for me. Oh actually, GoW Ragnarok was amazing too, to be fair. The PS4 generation by comparison though was just banger after banger and was probably one of the best consoles I’ve ever owned. PS5 has been fine but I’m ready for Sony to get back to what they do best. Feels like that won’t happen this gen so I’m looking forward to seeing what PS6 has to offer.
I hadn’t had a PS4, these fantastic games were totally new to me, and I could enjoy all of them in perfect 60 fps.
Be it because they already targeted 60 fps on PS4 (God of War, Dark Souls 3), they got a 60 fps patch (Horizon, The Last of Us Part 2), or they got native PS5 versions (Death Stranding).
While these games were already very good on PS4, I just can’t accept 30 fps, fan noise and long loading times anymore. PS5 delivered this snappy experience I had on my Super Nintendo back then, and that is great.
I’m 42 and never been happier with a system. I took a big break at one point from playing console games, had an Xbox 360 but not a PS3 and then never had another console until the PS4 in 2019. Maybe that’s why I’m not a miserable sod.
The console has been solid, but I did have to get mine repaired because the liquid metal in the console dried out. A little bit of a design flaw in the console. However, I love the Dualsense controller 100%. Might be my favorite controller of all time so far.
As far as games go, it’s been a patchy generation. It’s not like there’s nothing to play this generation, far from it, but there’s certainly been fewer essential experiences. Thus far, 2023 might be the only year that truly felt exceptional for the console. I’m not sure Sony’s first party strategy is for me anymore either. So far, Astro Bot and Death Stranding 2 are the only first party games I’d give a 10/10 to. I know a 10/10 is high praise, but that’s definitely lower than any other PlayStation console. The exclusives have carried the console for me, but most aren’t exclusive anymore. It’s been a weird generation where software is concerned.
And I can wait a long time for a PS6. Sony will have to sell the console to me next time, unfortunately. I’m not an insta-buy like I had been for three generations. I’m not sure I’d buy a new gen PlayStation right now and that’s largely because the first party line-up hasn’t been for me. Contemplating to go PC/Nintendo next gen.
This is my last PlayStation.
My favorite Playstation console of all Playstation i owned and the reason is that the hardware is really good. Most games still run very well on my base PS5 and the backward compatibility is amazing. The Dualsense controller is realy good. I'm not lying when i say that i buy games nowadays if they support both haptic feedback and adaptive triggers. Playing Cyberpunk 2077 with 3D audio + adaptive trigger + haptic feedback is one of the most fun and immersive experience i ever had in my entire gaming experience. Hearing the rain falling while running around with my horse in Ghost of Tsushima, jumping from my chair when Aloy screamed when i was fighting in Horizon Zero Dawn or feel tense as ***** while playing Silent Hill 2 Remake while listening to all the disturbing things the game has...PS5 definitely elevated my experience as a gamer and i love every minute of it
Having said all that, there are issues with the platform or system of PS5. Not a lot of 1st party games that made me think "yeah, this is a must have game" aside from Returnal, Demon's Souls Remake and Astro Bot (haven't played Yotei yet); really expensive games in Brazil (that's something I'll never shut up about); PS Store is a deposit of asset flip garbage "games" which makes find actual decent games a chore...
I love the Dualsense but the drift issue is something that still haunts players to this day (me included) and this is the most annoying console in terms of cleaning. I never even cleaned my PS4 internally, now i need to open my PS5 every month to clean the dust and this is annoying as all hell
Overall, technically I'd say PS5 is the best Playstation console i ever owned, but PS4 and PS3 are still kings when it comes to 1st party games and even backward compatibility support (where's Digital Devil Saga and God Hand, Sony? They'll get stuck on PS3 forever?)
The console itself is amazing enough for me, but the library of games (especially first party) has been somewhat underwhelming apart from some exceptions.
And I'm in no rush for the PS6, it gets here when it gets here.
Awesome console with a 8.5/10 game catalog, I voted for 2028 for the PS6 but I'm looking forward to seeing what it has to offer.
@Boxmonkey
You sound so serious, I got the impression that you are terminally ill.
It's not the best generation ever but people blame too much on Microsoft and Sony. This generation is only bad because bad optimization and bad games in general from 3rd parties.
Hardware upgrades are so incremental and so expensive these days that I don't think we need a PS6 until 2029 or 2030. Look at the visual jump between PS4 and PS5, and then look at it between PS1 and PS2 or between PS2 and PS3. It's just not the same value in upgrading that it used to be, and it's gotten SO expensive. The PS5 is already the most expensive console Sony has ever released - and I'm talking base console, not pro - even when adjusting for inflation. A $1000 PS6 that offers negligible noticeable visual upgrades just doesn't have a value proposition that even most hardcore gamers would have a hard time swallowing.
Most of the games I've played this gen have also been on PS4. The extra controller features are annoying, and the battery life is abysmal. I very much prefer the DS4. They could have had more generations worth of physical backwards compatibility without breaking a sweat, at least PS1 and PS2. The design is still hideous. With that being said, the hardware is solid. Easily-expandable storage is fantastic. I do like how the games take advantage of the fast storage. It offers a great gaming experience, especially on an OLED TV.
The first party offerings have been abysmal for my tastes. I appreciate the third party support.
Overall, I said 'just okay.' Some good, some bad. I am glad to have one. Whether or not I even buy PS6 will have everything to do with physical media support going forward. If the console is digital only, then PS5 will be my last, and I'll go to PC moving forward.
@ElkinFencer10 When adjusted for inflation, the 60GB PS3 is still the most expensive base console Sony has released. It was $599 at launch in 2006. That's $780 in 2020 or $960 today (amortization.org).
First time I didn't buy a sony home console. If the ps6 won't support physical games, I'll get a cheap ps5 and it'll be the last time.
@SeaDaVie
I’m 51 and I’m with you.
This is my first PlayStation having always had x box and Nintendo and I think it’s fantastic.
I can’t compare against the PS4 and 3 era like others are doing obviously but I couldn’t be happier with the system, controller and games.
@IntrepidWombat I was actually just coming back to correct myself about that lol.
@Dadou Yeah, if PS6 is digital-only, I'm just skipping Playstation and going PC for those games.
It’s a fine machine with no games worthy of it. Unfortunately most devs are chasing multiplatform success so it’s more unique features aren’t used. Sadly that includes Sony as a dev too. Still, very happy about the lack of loading times at least, and PSVR2 has had some real jaw droppers.
@Junghova Ohhhhh nooooo. Don't say thaaatttt.
Great console with a much better library than the naysayers would have you believe. But it's been a strange gen, for some reasons beyond Sony's control and some well under them. The misuse of certain studios has been criminal
My favourite console so far. Being able to play my ps4 back log at 60fps in most cases is a massive boon for me personally. All the ps5 games I've bought have given me more enjoyment than any other generation has. I can't enthuse enough about GT7,dirt rally 2.0 and EA wrc and my T598 setup as I would never have invested so much without the ps5. Now I'm after the psvr2 and the ps5 Pro primarily to play GT7. It's a 9/10 system for me.
@ElkinFencer10 Lol yeah, still shocking that the PS3 still holds that distinction, especially for how failure prone those things were!
It's been a good console but I feel the games haven't reached the crazy heights that we had for previous gens. Being backward compatible with the PS4 is one of it's biggest strengths.
That and I do love the look of it.
Initially with my day one PS5 and the first two years it’s an outstanding definitely 10/10 for me.
Since then for me personally it’s gone down hill since.
There have not been enough Sony Studios amazing AAA campaign games, since the first two years and not forgetting most of them were cross generation games but amazing all the same.
Just take ND, their first ever new PS5 game in 2027, seven years after the PS5 release date.
The new Sony drum beat is one massive big AAA game per year from their studios and we know the games and release dates.
2025 GOY and that was below 90 on meta.
2026 Wolverine
2027 Prophet
Basically, started amazing and been a damp squib 🦑 since and just ok.
Nothing like the outstanding PS4 era that ND produced 3 new games for as an example.
As a console its been pretty great! I especially love the loading times this generation. Everything, from games and general use is much faster then last gen. In terms of games i think its been pretty good as well, although i do notice it’s getting harder to be surprised by novel experiences.
I know many conflate the question of what do they think of PS5, with how they found Playstation Studios the last 5 years, so i’ll give my two cents on that as well i guess.
Even though i think their first party games have generally been pretty great, i do miss a few more gen defining titles. Their bad approach to live service has had a real negative impact on their output, and even if they’ve corrected course since then, unfortunately game development take so much time that that’s not going to be apparent immediately.
Having said that, i’m not gonna judge a whole generation while it’s still going. We have a few more years left, and the games they have announced i am actually very excited for, and i do realize that there are many more games that are yet to be announced. So i’m excitecly looking forward.
End of the day, PS5 and it’s full library of games have been pretty great for me
I like my PS5, it gets way more use than my Switch or PC. But Sony's library for it is very weak. The weakest generation by far, and that's sworn me off getting the PS6 (or any future console for that matter, I'm not impressed with the Switch 2 either).
Great console and hardware accessories, but weak PS5 exclusive library tbh. It is by far the weakest software generation. And the removal of things like PS Stars and the huge GaaS failures haven't been great either.
The Gen will be over in about 2 years, and we will be lucky to see much more beyond Wolverine and Saros. I don't think ND will make it in time for the PS5 gen and move over to the PS6.
The highlights have been the tech innovation with the DualSense, the PS Portal, the DualSense Edge, and PSVR 2.
Improvements in cloud streaming and the restructuring of PS+ have also been decent too (although please make cloud saves free like Xbox!)
@LogicStrikesAgain You've summed up pretty much how I would regard it.
A big part is the gen not remotely being over yet and we tend to forget how many of the great PS4 games came near the end of that generation. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of this generations best games are coming in the next couple of years.
Still feels like it's barely hitting its stride
The PS6 would have to be something special for me to buy it, not just a more powerful PS6
The console itself is brilliant. Most balanced PlayStation console with less major flaws than any earlier PlayStation console. It's brilliant.
The library is vast and strong, but could be more varied, especially from First Party. There are more great games than I can ever play.
My money is on November 2027 for PS6 but I wouldn't mind if it's Nov 2028. But that's still 2-3 years away. It's still a ways off either way.
People only picking 2028 cuz that's what we've been told to expect by media even though that console would be wholly unnecessary most engines and development pipelines were woefully unprepared for this generation of gaming
The only ps5 exclusive game I’ve loved is astro bot. I just feel ps games have forgotten to have fun. It’s not that games shouldn’t be serious at all, I loved the infamous games for example. I just feel too many games are trying too hard to be the next last of us. I’m not saying we should go back to when nearly every game was platformer though. But I miss the days of little big planet, ape escape, sly, jak and daxter, and stuff that’s just plain fun not oscar bait.
@Drago201 Errr... media and leaks are all saying it's 2027
Only thing lacking has been a few more exclusives. A game from ND would be nice . 4/5
PS5 has been, by far, my least favourite PlayStation generation. The hardware has been overpriced, the games underwhelming and Sony's support for my beloved PSVR2 has been atrocious. Plus I'm still annoyed at needing to pay for cloud saves.
But it has been incredibly successful for Sony so my complaints won't mean a thing.
@MrHaggi Enjoy the Portal. I also just picked one up and it's great. Both cloud and console streaming work amazingly well.
Haven't tried it out the house yet but for my purposes and for the price I got it for, it's brilliant. Enjoy.
The ps5 is a fine console.
However, after this generations output and the constant hardware/peripheral releases just to pad the coffers, I'm checked out of the next generation.
If this generation is anything to go on in terms of first party Ip: remasters of remasters, generic marvel stuff, live service unicorn chasing without quality effort put in and constant price increases.
I don't want to shell out 6-800 dollars for the exclusives anymore as they just aren't as compelling as they once were, in favor of sequels that basically are the exact same thing as their predecessor yet take half a decade to churn out. The library just isn't impressive and most of the banger 3rd party games that carried this gen can be played elsewhere and of higher quality if willing to invest in superior hardware
This just isn't the diverse library, best platform to game on Playstation i had been a dedicated fan of since their inception. on the gamer facing front Sony has lost the plot and is completely mismanaged In favor of a sole focus on shareholder profit. They would need an enormous change in direction to win me back, but because profit is the name of the game and on that front they are winning, that simply will not happen.
The console itself I have no problem with, in fact its very good, from the controller to the ssd's.
But the library which is the most important thing is not the best. Its definately the gen of 7/10's, very little for me went above that which after five years isnt a good sign.
Pretty amazing, especially the controllers, that definitely made me play more then I did during the PS4 era.
Worst playstation ever
Its been a great gen that has been carried by 3rd party games. There has been some solid first party games though like Astro, Gran Turismo 7, Ghost of Yotei, God of War, Spider-man. But for being out for 5 years it is hard not to think about what could have been. We really should have had a new Uncharted game. Throw in like 3 or 4 more blockbuster exclusives and it could have been an amazing gen so far.
I rated the library as great, but not for anything Sony has specifically done. It's been a really good run for 3rd party RPGs these last few years. The console itself has been really good, but I will never forgive how big and ugly it is.
PS5 remains too prohibitively home-chained (whether for lack of Portal or for the local infrastructure impeding its solutions) and most of its power still appears wasted on frixels rather than on game design novelties that Mark Cerny once painted the picture of. But its controller features (their factual application ratio aside👀) and embers of past Nintendoesque SJS glory in titles like Astro Bot, alongside the familiar quality freeroamers like Horizon and Spider-Man, still make its sales numbers deserved. "Good but could have been better", then? Or maybe couldn't, because making it actually better in this day and age would be to make it hybrid - and Portal has demonstrated that Sony is only willing to go so far in that direction. Which will most likely leave Vita and PSP sharing the top of the pedestal among Sony hardware (and third place in my console rankings overall) - but hey, maybe if/when I live to be retired, I'll look back and consider picking up at least a used unit?😄
I've never loved a console so much! So many games available that I'm interested in from all levels of developers, it's pretty much a smorgasbord.
Love the hardware itself (have one since launch day, and a 11xx series since May 2022 - this one has a fan without the "UFO" noise).
Wanted Demon's Souls Remake at launch. Astro's Playroom as well.
Have played and loved most of the exclusives (Returnal, Rift Apart and Forbidden West in particular), but there's just something missing from Sony these days.
I've got third person action-adventure fatigue. I'm a long-time arcade racing fan. My PS3 was partially bought to access the Motorstorm series. I was day one on DriveClub on PS4 and clocked over 200 hours on it. PS2 had some of the best arcade racers of all time and I bought the majority. This one hurts most - WipEout 2097 is my favourite game ever made, and that series is well and truly dead.
There's some wonderful third party games there too at least, and the (sometimes) "PS4 Pro-Pro" nature of the backwards compatibility really elevated some games - Sekiro in particular. I found parry timing impossible at launch on PS4 Pro due to the uncapped, fluctuating framerate, but it's locked at 60FPS on PS5. 100%'d it last year and it's one of my favourite games ever.
I also never understood the criticism about its graphical capability. I remember watching the first hour of Demon's Souls Remake the week before launch and could barely believe I was watching a console game. If you can't see the generational difference between Ratchet & Clank 2016 on PS4 and Rift Apart on PS5, or the gulf in quality between Forbidden West on PS4 and PS5, then you really do need to go to Specsavers.
So like any gen really - a few bits I don't like, but a lot to love.
The hardware itself, have been great, except for PSSR, which have been hit and miss.
Sadly, when it comes to native first party games, it's been the worst generation so far.
Way too many remakes and remasters.
Astrobot ,Stellar Blade and Rift Apart are probably the only ones I really enjoyed so far.
Though Wolverine looks promising.
Overall, the PS4 generation was MUCH better.
Definitely up there with the PS2.
Not sure yet if I will buy a PS6, or just stick with PC from now on. I'm definitely gonna wait a year. I don't want the first years to be packed with cross-gen and remasters again.
@LogicStrikesAgain
I was reading through your post, and you already covered what I was going to say about there still being a couple/few years left.
I'm generally happy with Sony studios output, though they definitely could have released more. For me at least, I have had a couple of those generation definers from them - GOWR, Astro, GoY, SM (MM & 2).
I am hopeful though that, just like PS3 and PS4 generations, they finish strong. I think all of us forget sometimes that Sony have typically released some of their best games in the latter years of each gen.
This poll is a couple of years too early - Sony typically release their best towards the end of each gen.
Somewhat surprised given a lot of the comments I read here often that the poll is so positive, and that very few think PS6 should launch 2027 (I think 2028 is far better).
For me, this has been the best generation so far.
60fps, SSDs, and a very strong Pro machine being the highlights.
I do think that Sony need to deliver game-wise in the next few years though to cap it off nicely.
I’ve been thoroughly enjoying this generation. Sony’s tech has never been better and I’ve never had such a diverse pool of high quality games to choose from. I don’t feel the pull of next-gen at all and would be happy to not hear about it until at least 2028.
@rusty82 didnt you have a ps4?
This gen has brought some of my favourite games of all time, 60fps as standard and lightning fast load times. I have had a great 5 years of gaming across all platforms and I’m looking forward to the next 5. First party output, while not high in number has been consistently high in quality. I’d like them to release some more quirky AA games but I’m also fine with what they are currently doing…it’s not like I’m short of amazing games to play, especially as the quality of indies has absolutely skyrocketed.
@Rich33 "This poll is a couple of years too early - Sony typically release their best towards the end of each gen" You are correct, and I think 2026 is the start of the very best. Probably could have been much longer time frame, but the live service push got in the way for a bit (but even some of those were pretty good too!)
Depends how you judge it. If for some reason you judge it based on first party exclusives then it's a trainwreck. Personally, I judge it based on "what can I play on it" and in that regard it's a 10. So many great games. So many great PS4 games. Some PS1 and PS2 games. Ports, remasters. I could never own another console and not run out of things to play. It's delightful. Looks hideous, but I'll let that slide.
Basically this gen bought a nice quality of life improvements into the console space.
However the output from Sony was very underwhelming and surrounded by greedy practices, cash grabs and bloody live service push, wasting a lot of resources that could have been put elsewhere..
Having the system just to for the exclusives feels really very underwhelming..
@Medic_alert Yup I remember back at the beginning of the generation, playing games like AC Valhalla that utilised the extra hardware advantage and ran better on XSX.
With far superior backwards compatibility, with FREE performance boosts for older games, and none of that awful nonsense we have on PS5 of having separate PS4 games and all the awkwardness around that, there was no doubt in my mind that the XSX was superior and would be my main console.
Yet here I am five years later having sold my XSX and being exclusively PS5. They bungled it.
Just imagine if they had spent this gen making the games people have been asking for instead of chasing the live service desperation bag nonsense.
@Oram77
Maybe we are just optimists lol but yes, next year is looking very busy!
I think my 'take' on it is I have been happy so far, so don't want to be too critical- but if they hadn't ****** around with the LS push, this gen would have stood out far more.
I like the fact I can watch Sky+ through it, but as a games console it leaves a lot to be desired. Not enough games I have enjoyed I’m afraid to say.
@Junghova I've said that exact same thing, every generation
The console is great. The software, on the other hand, has been dire - it's been a long time since I've bought so few games for a system.
I don't want PS6 before 2028. Hopefully that will give Sony time to get a decent selection of good first-party games together, as their output this generation has been sorely lacking - too much time spent on remakes, remasters, and supporting the last generation... the major downside of backwards compatibility.
The stick drift killed it for me. I was sick of sending the ps4 ones back to Amazon and Year later I’m still doing it with ps5.
Other than that great console.
@Stevemalkpus its not really one Companies fault. Not defending MSFT if that's who you were refering to.
It's many many many people. Ultimately it's kind of on the main manufacturers. SK Hynix, Samsung, and Micron. They could temp. Ramp up production, but they won't. They can now sit back and enjoy the bidding wars. Idk the number, but hundreds of thousand of companies, not just AI ones, need ram. Finance dept pays what y have to, and write it off as a business expense. They get reimbursed, so they don't care what it costs, which keeps Samsung and the other raising the prices.
Also, these manufacturers are all foreign. Not a lot the gov. Can do tbh. In order to enforce a limit on purchases, they'd have to utilize some form of war time legal "survival mode" type mandate.
And the U.S. is very much beholden to CEOs and Lobbyists. Money talks.
Great console, great games. However it lacks a proper identity, partly due to the number of games still releasing on PS4. Those proper PS5 exclusives are quite rare. Also the mismanagement of Sony’s live service push this gen has absolutely impacted the rate at which we get first-party releases.
@SeaDaVie I'm just a few years shy of the same age. I think at this age gaming in general has taken a back burner to life. I still have my launch Series X. But it's just a thing on my myshlf now. I think the PS5 has done great, I never bought one though. I think the Xbox failures, and the way the industry has changed has just turned me off to gaming a bunch.
I think age was a bigger thing for me honestly. Everyone I know around our age still games ton. I just ended up focusing on other hobbies more.
I'm hoping to snag a PS5 down the road, it's very clear it's a great system to most here. Just need to balance my hobbies a bit more.
As usual I'm in the minority. I think the PS5 has been the weakest PlayStation era so far. I have a PS5 and a PS5 Pro and a Portal.
@Junghova what do you mean? You’re not buying any more in favor of PC, or playing only old games, or backlog, etc? I’m at the same point you are so I’m wondering what you mean specifically.
Well, how should I rate the PS5 library? Current generation games only or the whole PS4 library included? It's a totally different setting....
Relating to the article, I couldn’t care less about the next system. This will most likely be the last console I ever buy. The graphics are peak, the games are great and span multiple generations, seriously there are enough games to play for over a decade. The controller is perfect, the SSD loads games damn near instantly, it has all the media apps I could ever want, I can stream right to YouTube from it with the push of a button.. it does everything I’d like it to do. We’ve hit peak with console specs and it simply doesn’t need to go any higher. Been gaming since the OG Gameboy.
Anyway my next gaming purchase will be a Steam Machine and likely nothing ever again after that. Everything else has gone to hell in this industry with Valve as the exception, and will continue to do so as gaming circles the toilet.
The pandemic had a huge effect on the launch of the PS5, no doubt about it, but I blame Jim Ryan and the live service push as well as the closure of Japan Studios for why the library has been so poor. I’ve loved the ps4 backwards compatibility so that I can continue to play last gen games, but I think the ps5 would have been a hug failure without it. I hope to see a greater commitment to single player games, which is their forte, and not trying to squirm their way into the live service market hoping to win the Fortnite lottery
@Gedrick
I am just tiring of gaming in general after 40+ years. I gave up the PC gaming rat race years ago and nothing about the ps6 that I have heard excites me . I think once GTA 6 drops, that could be it for me as all good things come to an end
Echoes of the End is good, Tides of Annihilation looks fair. Diofield was ok. Valkyrie Elysium was fun (both got on PS4). WRC23/24, Ride 5 I'll wait. Darksiders 4 don't sound great. Wreckfest 2/Wrecreation aren't either.PS5 is eh. PS4 & under got more games/appealing elements & old gen versions appeal. I'd buy a failed console library, quality over volume. Rhythm Heaven Groove Switch 1 for sure.
Very poor. Disappointing (wanted to be fair, could say awful), abysmal game design/features/functionality, not exciting at all to play, research but boring execution, didn't like 8th gen, to make that clear. Don't care for PS5, PS6. It's not power/price, it's execution/experience.
For people interested/solid console I'd say 8/10 for features (gaming, disks, streaming, etc., fair UI, and more), default console, power to price ratio benefits and more I see reason in it, for being fair 5/10, for uninterested 1-3/10. I am only playing PS4 games, or should i say only Switch, PS4 if I care and mostly PS3/360 and under.
Back compat/remasters/updates is fair & tech to experiment but if games suck, dev ideas are weak, don't care about options anyway. Options are a good thing, not if all terrible. Yotei (flashback areas were limited and disappoint the rest is a good game in a format I wasn't into anyway but does those parts well even if the wolf skill tree/no commands of stance was disappointing)/Rift Apart didn't show the SSD in smart ways. Ratchet 2009 did PS3 HDD better (games load smarter of defeat to respawn/chapter starts, FF7 Rebirth did, but most games are still pathetic at programming loading techniques) & Rift Apart does those parts well, the new parts it does abysmally.
Physical lessening is sad but happens. Digital doesn't mean I limit my platforms and library, I treat digital how i do physical, play whatever for reasons I see to use them. I am not digital loyal at all.
I still collect/find trendy, or niche old era games with more fun game design, I didn't like the PS3/360 hits that lead to PS4/Xbox One game design. Never did, never have. So yeah I'm playing what's left behind good game design dismissed for holiday destination/historical places, or cinematic worlds when I don't find that immersive.
I get immersed in gameplay/movesets/level design/mechanics. Not boring locations and boring characters. That 'personality' doesn't interest me. Human beings don't interest me either. Why would I want to play as some human, animal/car that's boring to use them in this world.
Same reason I can play empty games like Minecraft (wait for Hytale on PC) and not care about dungeons but in other genres treat something differently based on it's core, strengths, potential.
Wishlist/filters could be on PS4, same with quiet PS5/Xbox One/Series but nope has to be PS5 because excuses.
I have 'access' to a PS5/Series X I don't use them. Others around me do but I've never been so uninterested in either of the 2 consoles either. Switch 2 is early but still don't' care for it. Can hold out with Switch 1. Switch 1 had enough factors despite how ok. 2017 got Vita, 2018 a Wii U, 2020 a 3DS, 2021 a Switch. PS4/Xbox One games were just not appealing & features I liked got cut so reasons to pull away.
To see what I missed out on and because 8th gen game design was not for me at all. Still isn't.
Remasters/updates were fair for devs to experiment I guess.... Back compat/emulation has been fair.
Part 2:
I research/listen to the business side more then I care about PS5. Refuse to use/buy own. Used it, still no interest or Series X (Xbox One had 2020+ parts of & hate). Quick resume is fine. TV TV TV of 2013-2017 functionality like Windows 8 was better for app/game dual app scaling, what Wii U/Vita couldn't do wish could.
Switch I got for Vita ports, niche Nintendo IPs & HD handheld was ok. It was fine for new gen experiences if games didn't come to PS4/Xbox one too, didn't care how ran, was happy to play regardless, fair ports of old games by Limited Run/Bright Memory Infinite.
But IR was boringly used, ok ideas but not great, Wii experiences were bad due to lack of IR for cursor so we had to have IR pointed the other way & bad cursor instead. Switch is ok at continuing docks/cables to the TV like past devices but it too was very boring.
Don't use a PC for gaming/troubleshooting unless want to, don't care for power, I care about game mechanics/level design, not trends badly refining compared to past trends & holiday destinations as excuses for level design.
Enhancements are fair, the DVDs to Ultra Blu-ray is nice, streaming feature, apps not as much as Xbox but both Nintendo/Sony don't need to either so it's fine.
The console design is as awkward as PS4 was so eh. Ugly/bad to position. Sure no touch button thankfully but moving the HDMI cable back in is annoying, but it's still an awkward design with the stand. Flower pot/ugly art piece console. Xbox Series is a rectangular prism fair air flow, PS5 airflow/design is eh.
PS4 UI was way better, PS3 had limits after PSX/PSP UI, got used to groups after Wii U/PS4 folders limits of binding games, I filter so many things in Switch groups, I assume PS5 uses that feature well? (never used or seen) that Xbox introduced that PS/Switch both took notice & that's fine. I use them a lot on Switch then Xbox One.
Sure i like the quiet Xbox feature on PS5. But they aren't reasons for me to care about the PS5 at all.
I beat Space Marine 2, it was a 1.5 in game design, a .5 entry of changes and didn't impress me at all.
Rift Apart felt less fun than prior entries. Even Echoes of the End got to the Ratchet Nexus style bits, loved the water rising/lowing of Ratchet 2002/2016, I can play that game and go wow these old school ideas used just enough, move on, combat that's modern and not that appealing but does the job and the dialogue is fair. Best linear game I've seen on PS5. While played and finished Alice Madness Returns and that was the best PS3 era game with game mechanics/level design and artstyle/themes i played all year. Besides Singularity.
Peripherals existing, great to see them still making them. The execution of them, very poor. Portal can be accessible but does it have resolution/connection scaling no, Wifi5 isn't that bad I'm fine with that access some reasons may have if no wifi6 or 7 or whatever interference or whatever, but no dual screen, unacceptable. The marketing is. OK. But I'm also sick and tired of devices taking 10+ years for audiences to be old enough to embrace tech and companies dumb it down so much. It's infuriating. I referenced so much towards the Steam Machine to anything PS/Xbox/Nintendo have done for 10 years to many situations in a conversation yesterday. It surprised me.
Why build up what Vita/Phones/Tablets or even PSVR can do of the dual screen use cases to just dump it. Very disappointing.
Part 3:
PSVR2 is fair but it's also just sad, Indies are doing ok but even the feel can be more backwards/backtracking PSVR1 efforts or Wii/Move balancing buttons/motion, it makes me laugh at devs or the 'it has to be rea/approachable', push motion too far. Sigh. Think outside the box/what you did like PS1/2 or NES/SNES game logic, but no pretend new to gaming/veterans too stuck in I grew up/realistic only & it makes me mad.
Sigh 'oh it's only good for cockpits', excuses. Sony is too lazy to scale projects down (push to Namco/never use those IPs as not big profits, why build up an audience, sigh), like many companies.
Astro is the only creative team left besides Media Molecule.
Emu studio are doing good but licenses, sigh.
Others fit their design & strategy while still standing out with their talents. I hate most of their current lineup because I don't find the game design appealing, story/graphics is not motivating.
Game design is boring, peripherals are a disappointment. Console is ugly. UI is fine, welcome hub is fair & other info for it won't deny that, though I have seen it on mobile, Windows 11 which I am new to & hate it's design issues.
Regardless of game devs and the 2020 situation, game design/gameplay has been boring for years, accessibility is fine but you can scale movesets and level design accordingly, but they don't and it makes me so bored of games.
Echoes of the end made me impressed (not because it's oh old ideas, it's that it offers them in different ways, I don't want copy paste old game design for nostalgia, I want game design that uses movesets and level design or humans/animals/cars in interesting ways, they can program/animate whatever they want and many don't and that's why I get annoyed) like Kena at a first dev's attempt and how they made it modern but scaled well old ideas or new ideas. Most devs or leadership are so weak and annoying.
Xbox's spy game before Gears 4, great ideas, no we have to scale it down and dumb it down. Thanks leadership, you suck.
So I play old games, enjoy old control schemes, enjoy old UI design that isn't bland. It's not nostalgia, it's better design lost for safe and worse design.
The business models of PS+ changes have been fair, better then NSO for back compat I don't have to sub to PS+ and I get the digital releases and I'm happy. I like the flexibility they offer there.
So are they all bad 'no' not at all, underwhelming yes, there is good in there and it's a solid default console for anyone absolutely, but I am just not interested in the games, the controller features are 'fine' but so were Impulse triggers, so were vibration scaling in visual novels or Inti Creates platformers besides Nier doing the halves on the touchpad on PS4 as well. AA Japanese devs impressed me with the controller more then Sony studios did.
Jim wasted Bend/Bluepoint's time and that was just sad.
Destruction Allstars could have been better. Foamstars could have been better. So many could be reworked in better ways of modes, audience appeal, etc. but nope they made subpar/worse games with weak ideas and lack of understanding of audience with weak modes and business model first.
Data over understanding people.
If I want to be harsh 1/10, more fair, 5/10, it's solid for people into the things the PS5 offers 7/10 to 8/10.
@Rich33 @Oram77 "poll is a couple of years early."
Maybe because it released around this time Nov 2020 and 5 years is one of those significant numbers y'know 5, 10, 20, 30 and so on.
@11001100110zero I was referring to OpenAI, the Sam Altman company headquartered in San Francisco. On October 1, they signed two simultaneous deals with Samsung and SK Hynix (neither of which knew the other deal existed) swallowing up forty percent of the global supply of DRAM. This, to me, seems like the kind of thing that antitrust laws were made to prevent. Government oversight should be able to prohibit a single American company (which OpenAI is) from gaining this type of competitive advantage in the marketplace.
@TheArt ( @Oram77 )
Fair point. I just think (based on previous gens, and maybe optimistically) that the best is yet to come, and any poll now will not be nearly as positive as an actual end of gen poll.
Though saying that, this poll is actually pretty positive anyway.
@Stevemalkpus
100% agree with you that there should be, and that mass media should start outing this shameless behaviour. Perhaps if it does, the manufacturers may backtrack (if they can).
There is also a complex danger for the 2 companies that supply the RAM and signed deals, which becomes particularly relevant if, as you say, they didn't know the other was also making a deal:
A shortage of RAM worldwide could lead to other, currently minor producers (if any - I'm not sure) upping their production, or new producers entering the market to fill demand.
At the end of the signed deals the 2 companies who signed deals suddenly find that they lose 40% of their guaranteed sales, prices have normalised, and that 1 or more new competitors have entered the market as major opposition (and who may have signed longer term deals with other - as a result of the shortage - RAM starved companies); not to mention that the other current major opposition (who also signed a 40% deal with OpenAI) now having found themselves in the same position are more aggressively competing too.
I also wonder if the 2 companies will try and change course now, if they thought they were getting an exclusive deal...obviously not breaking contract, thats a big risk, but they themselves could lobby to get the contract voided by competition authorities.
If you look at exclusives, it is pretty weak generation. Third parties save it a little bit but not much.
For next gen I am going back to PC or MS/PC.
I can safely guess that PS6 generation will offer what.. Spiderman 3, Horizon 3, Ghost of 3, and some other sequels/remasters. No, sorry, I am tired with that.
I went in to the ps5 skeptical, not really liking sony as a hole. The console started off kinda meh outside of astro, but the updates and controls really grew on me. I upgraded to the pro and tacked on the portal and have ultimately really enjoyed the ps5 over the past couple of years.(i barely touched it the first few years. )
These days id label it a great console with a lot more room left to grow. An easy recommendation for new gamers.
@Junghova yeah, I hear ya on that. I just replied separately but my sentiments echoed yours. I’m only a few short years away from 40 years playing games (more like 35 for me) and I’m the same way though. Big “been there, done that” vibes for 99% of releases.
I'm fine with my PlayStation 5 for now, I don't think I will need a PlayStation 6 in a near future, but you never know I don't think the PlayStation 5 will be my last console but I have no need right now to buy a new system.
In my opinion the PlayStation 6 should be released in 2030 in the earliest but Sony most likely will release it in 2028.
Also I love my PlayStation 5 library. Most of them aren't exclusive, but games are games, even though most of them are retro.
Having owned all playstation platforms up to this point, and trying to be fair about all this:
If PS2 is the benchmark at a 10 / 10, then PS5 lands at a 7.5 for me personally. Very good but just short of great. That would have been a 9 if the PS5 kept its phenomenal launch and early release schedule up, but they tripped around the third year - it feels like a console that has never gotten to flex it's muscles.
Mileage may differ because for me it's all about the games and 1.) I care virtually not at all about things like UI and other stuff like that, and 2.) What games are "good" is so subjective, and 3.) I can't in good conscience include the PS4 backwards compatibility though it is appreciated and makes the console better as a package.
I still don't think we've had anything on the level of Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart or the Demon Souls remake graphically or technically, and those were launch games. Its been a late bloomer. Death Stranding 2 might be a recent exception that proves the rule.
Now third party has been absolutely killing it but I left that out this. Just referring to first / second party output - and that's been middling compared to, say, PS1 or PS2. If we were including third party, this has been the best generation I've ever experienced (hail Capcom).
I genuinely don't know what I'll be doing next generation. I love many of the Nintendo franchises, so I will always be buying a Nintendo console so long as they continue making them. Not sure about Sony and Microsoft though. The games that I've gravitated towards this generation on the PS5 are multi-platform, and I've not really connected with most of Sony's first party offerings lately. Franchises like Socom, Killzone, Little Big Planet and M.A.G. (a long forgotten gem) were what made me fall in love with the PS3 (my first Sony console). I'm just not hyped up for the next generation at this point.
@Junghova I’m curious as to your reasons. I also started with the 2600 (I’m 54) and am increasingly getting less enamoured by games. Have bought a switch 2 but doubt I will play much except perhaps Mario & Zelda & have decided to let go of the PlayStation line (and any other future consoles) after the PS5.
I love the console,it did everything i was hoping for. What i dont like is they took too long making exclusive ps5 games frim their studios showing what it can do. Chasing live service was a bad ideal from the beginning and sony should have known that. But i guess all they could see was dollar signs. I expect the console to be great its last few years though. Ive heard rumors of 2027 for ps6 but i would prefer 2028 at earliest. It might depend on when xbox decides theirs. If they do release earlier and try to do what they did this gen and just live off of crossgen title and remasters, i might wait for the ps6 pro. Maybe pick up a ps5 pro before.
Its been a great console for my kids. Its been pretty middling for me. Astrobot has 100 percent been the high point. It takes a lot to get my seven year old interested in anything that isn't TABS, Goat Sim, Minecraft, or Teardown, but he was glued to Astrobot. It was such a wonderful experience. Playing through that game with him made the PS5 a worthy purchase.
I dont want to diminish that, but I play PS4 games on my PS5 more than anything else.
@Stevemalkpus "Anti-trust laws," lol "Government oversight" haha.
Next you will say something crazy like "consumer protections." You some sort of communist???
I'm not a fan of the PS5, so I wouldn't rate it. But it's better than xbox. That's it. I think the PS4 is much easier to use tho, or that's what I'm used to. I keep holding the ps button to turn it off, but have to press the ps button and find the off button. Was much simpler turning off console and closing apps on PS4.
Also, I like games that have cross save across pc and ps5. So would be nice to keep switching between platforms. That's what I've been doing with Where Winds Meet. Sometimes I'm on PS, sometimes I'm on PC. Need more games like this.
They should be bold because potentially the best years for the PS5 are ahead of it. They should be thanking their lucky stars that Microsoft is releasing a PC and will compete with Valve in that space. That leaves Sony as the only player in the console space. Switch 2 is competing as a handheld and…well…it’s Nintendo they really don’t compete with anybody and nobody competes with them—they are going to sell their handhelds. Speaking of Nintendo! Their success is based on a wonderful strategy. Release hardware underpowered by a generation and…guess what…make great games that everyone wants to play and can’t stop talking about and sell the hardware for a profit! Making great games has worked out for Sony and contributed to the massive success of PlayStation but they’ve been distracted with live service games the last few years to the point where they replaced a leadership team and tasked studios with making (live service) games they don’t know how to make. Here’s a winning strategy. Release the PS6 as an underpowered handheld in two years. It will sell out all over the earth. Support the PS5 at least seven more years. When component prices fall in three years say, stop producing the PS5, drop the price of the Pro and let that be the sole flagship for a few more years and throughout that time, this is most important, make great first party games, and make them without spending 300 million dollars! It can be done! Make If they want to be somewhat bolder swap the current leadership team with the prior. Bring back Shu and Shawn. Right the ship.
I’m not an economist or an MBA but this is what see. A large fraction of those on PSN still game on a PS4. If those are added to 90 million or whatever on PS5 what is that? 100 million maybe? Adding in those on Switch and Xbox I don’t see that having increased much if at all over decades. So the market is saturated. Why release new hardware, sell it at a loss or not sell well, and not change anything. It doesn’t make any sense. Make and sell great games for the next decade. Sony has the base.
i like the ps5 and i think it`s a good console, but on the other side i feel it`s not really been used to its full potential and that is quite disappointing.
right now it feels more like a better version of a ps4 than a console on its own to me.
I love my PS5 Fat machine since I bought on 1 June 2024.
I got a lot of lovely 3rd party kids games by Outright Games, Fantasy Life I, Story of Seasons games, the kids games from PS4 that got boosted to 60 fps on PS5.
I rated my PS5 machine 9 from 10.
Thank you Outright Games for BLUEY , Barbie, Paw Patrol games on PS5. 😊
Great console with a great library , only downsides for me are fragile controllers and removal of USB backup option.
PS5 system is amazing, but the library imo is lacking and definitely needs to add more first party games, also no need for PS6 for quite some time, the PS5 has alot more potential and growth
@themightyant i have wifi 100/100 at home and works great but if i do internet with phone its stutters with 4g, havent tried 5g.
@Stevemalkpus I figured it was them, a lot of people lately have been aiming at MSFT for owning a big stake in Open AI. Same boat I suppose.
Tragically the US government is just a puppet to corporations now. I know that makes me sound like a tin foil hat guy, I know lol.
Until the 1950s the corporate tax rate here was roughly 70% iirc. Now? It's like 26% with more write off/tax loophole you could ever count. We used to walk in a break up monopolies constantly. AT&T, and three others came out of a big beak up the US Gov. Forced. Now though? Companies get what they want. All Open AI has to do, is slide an envelope over the tab, and no one will stop them.
Perfect example, is our military. When I was in the Army the old timers, and a lot of higher ups, put it bluntly. We are everywhere now, not for peace, but for business. Are promise of protection, gets US companies favorable deals.
It's just business, and no one in the Gov, is immune to a nice sack O' Cash. Even if they did "force rationing", they couldn't make it fair. Hundreds of thousands of US based companies need ram. Who gets what percentage? I'd love to see it happen, but it won't.
@Deljo I did. And I had a big library of games on it across physical, digital and on plus ready to play on PS5.
It also meant I could put my PS4 in my kids room for them to play with and if I wanted to get a PS4 game I didn't have to mess about swapping over the console (we don't have much space).
Added to this the PS4 backwards compatibility in most cases ran better on PS5 with lots of 60fps patches so the PS4 compatibility was a huge boon
@Junghova I’ve been gaming since the days of Pong and TV light gun games. I have a few more consoles left in me yet - but I’m single player all the way (except stuff like Mario Party). I worry the games market will outgrow me, not the other way around.
I want the PS6 to play all PS gens without a whitelist. Just play all discs and downloads automatically. I would buy 2!
@nessisonett I don't understand complaints like this. You didn't list a single reason why this generation isn't as good as previous PS consoles and games.
I ask this sincerely: why do some people care so much about exclusives? Why is it important to you that PlayStation comes out with games that only PlayStation users can play? How does not having exclusives have any negative impact on your experience?
Stellar Blade and Expedition 33 have already solidified this as an excellent generation of gaming.
The differences between an SSD-equipped PS4 Pro and the original fatty PS5 have been surprisingly minimal, in my view.
The PS4's UI is superior and felt a lot more friendly than the PS5 UI which is still a car crash after 5 years of miserableness.
Remakes and remasters occupy a large chunk of the PS5's library and most of those weren't needed (remastered PS4 games - why?)
If it hadn't have been standing of the shoulders of the PS4 (still is to a certain extent), the PS5 would've sank without a trace. Some PS4 games run better on the PS5 and some don't. I'd add that the DS4 is still Sony's best controller for ergonomics and looks, way ahead of the uncomfortable and unreliable Driftsense after all this time.
I bought an original Playstation, PS2, PS3 and PS4 because there were games I wanted to play on those systems. The PS5 was the only console I bought on the FOMO and to be honest, I could've not bothered. It's an overpriced, overweight PS4 Pro+.
I'm hoping that the PS6 releases with some reasons to buy as otherwise, I could easily see myself jumping over to the PC. Either way, I'll happily sell the PS5/Tub o' Lard/fridge when the time comes but I'll keep the PS4 Pro to remind me of the good Sony days. I've still got a massive backlog to wade through anyway.
If I had skipped PS4 and only jumped in now, it’d be amazing to get to play a lot of the Sony library enhanced on PS5 for the first time.
As it is now, it’s a great console (that sure just feels like the console I bought in 2013, only more powerful) with an uneven game library. I wish there’d been more new IPs and less gritty first party games, even if I have enjoyed them.
@Junghova Understandable.
I've been gaming since I was 4 and the reasons to upgrade are becoming increasingly less. I'm content with the PS5 and with cross gen games lasting longer each gen, I don't see myself seeing the need to upgrade until 2030 or beyond
The PS5 is top tech. The speed due to the SSD and clarity of the games on screen is phenomenal. Unfortunately, I just can't get on with the Dualsense. It was giving me serious hand issues after using it.
As others have mentioned, Sony's focus on live service, which is understandable from a business perspective if you don't play games. Was a terribad idea from the off. The lack of must play exclusives a major negative during the generation. How many games released in the last four years, are in your top ten games of all time?
Positives this gen, Astrobot, Balatro, Mass Effect Trilogy, Vampire Survivors. Sammy keeping hold of Push square and not selling it to BlackRock.
During the neverending cost of living crisis, which is shorthand for the end of American empire and our sycophantic decoupling, PS6 will cost over a grand. So yes, I can wait.
I've only had my PS5 for 12 months. Most new games were also available on my PS4. So I decided to wait for the Pro version. I expect to be playing on this for another 5 years. A PS6 would have to be a stellar leap forward for me to change before then. I am growing to love my PS5 Pro. I have fond memories of both PS2 and PS4 (less so the PS3), but I think the 5 will prove to be my favourite.
I loved the PS5 in its first year.
But in the meantime, it turned into my less used system. I think right now, the best thing about it are it's 4K Blu-ray player and a few selection of exclusives.
For the actual hardware itself, another quality product overseen by system architect Mark Cerny & the engineering crews...albeit at a higher price point than PS4 for using higher end tech.
From a First Party publishing & services perspective...not so good & indeed at times tone deaf. Some strong launch era titles, but with Jim Ryan's captain's pick Hermen Hulst taking over from the respected Shuhei Yoshida (& Shawn Layden when studio operations were region based), the pressuring studios by Green lighting live service games with seemingly little to no single player/campaign modes & then pushing for the Bungie buyout (wherein a number of the veterans had already moved on or forced out by new management even prior to Destiny), & giving them greater say in Worldwide Studios & start ups on the promise of quick to make Fortnite, or Overwatch pots of gold were disastrous.😕
You saw the likes of Bluepoint noted for their remakes & remasters,instead become support for Sony Santa Monica & then wasted on a God of War Universe live service game! 🙄
Playstation players could perhaps live with PC ports of older games if it meant resources back into what made first party output great. Instead we saw PS5 remasters of PS4 games ala The Last of Us minus online modes & yet still full price! Or stuff like Until Dawn getting rushed out buggy & shoehorned into Unreal engine,no upgrade path for existing owners & teasing of a sequel we'll sadly unlikely see now!😔
We saw Playstation Plus rejigged with multiple tiers with the promise of a classic games library of PS1,PS2,PSP classics & some regions even streaming PS3. But most regions remain on PS Deluxe to this day. PS1 & PS2 Classic releases have been sporadic, limited third party participation, even Sony failing to bring the likes of PS2 Ratchet & Clank, God of War etc.
Despite the number of PS3 locked series (many with online modes & dlc opportunities), like Resistance, Motorstorm, Little Big Planet 1 & 2 etc., they're left in the proverbial attic storage ala Toy Story by Hulst & the likes of the Hot Shots devs instead making Switch games.
Meantime existing PS plus users find they can no longer access subscription sales unless for a limited time upgrade of tiers & whacked with multiple price increases notably in regions where Playstation outsells the competition. Sub Stacking of discounts like the old days when one could buy a subscription in retail stores became a dirty word within PS Ivory towers.
Sadly, most of the older guard like Shuhei Yoshida & co.,have retired or been "retired", & couldn't even say who the public face of Playstation is now whether the Indie Games division, much less the faceless execs that post on their blog & avoid any public interaction.😕
Unfortunately I can't see the disconnect improving with PS6 planning now coming onto their radar.
PS4 pro was my first playstation and PS5 will be my last. I was happy with the previous gen, but the PS5 showed Sony is going full throttle in the wrong direction. I'll either go back to PC + Nintendo, or maybe try the Gabe Cube if it's price point is good.
The other day I saw a £85 bottle opener. I'm sure it's a very nice bottle opener, but it's far excessive than for my needs to open a bottle.
This is my mentality of a £750+ console or gaming PC. I don't need AI RAM to play 2D Mario and Tetris.
I was a day one adopter, have to say I love mine.
One thing that really bugged me initially was all the Cross Gen releases...I understand that it was because the PS4 has such a large install base but I spent all that money hoping for a bit of exclusivity, It was really annoying seeing the majority of games being released on both PS4 & PS5.
Thankfully it's getting better now in terms of "Current gen only" releases but it's taken far to long in my opinion.
As much as I love my PS5 one thing I have learnt is that I'm in no rush whatsoever to get a PS6 as I'm 99% sure I'll still be able to play every thing I want too on my PS5 for foreseeable future
Unless Sony invests heavily in memorable new IP, I won't be picking up a PS6. I have cause to keep a powerful PC, so the only meaningful reason to own a PS, beyond nostalgia (been along for the ride since the PSX), is the exclusives.
Previous generations had a number of legitimately memorable games. Games I still think about and return to. I can't imagine myself doing the same for the PS5 line-up 10 years down the line.
The console itself is great and a marked improvement over the PS4. I had upgraded the drive in my PS4 to make load speeds better, but the PS5 has improved on that again and its the stand out of the generation for me.
The controller is also brilliant with just a few niggles. Stick Drift and Battery Life. However I have not really noticed stick drift to much and its only really reared its head on a few games that had the sensitivity turned up far to high.
PSVR2 was enjoyable and I don't regret buying it at all. There is plenty to play on the platform regardless of who makes the experience. The same applies to PS5 games, the gen has had plenty of belters regardless of if they are crossgen / Sony studios.
Great consoles with good peripherals and games
The amount of moaning on here, you'd think owning a PS5 was some kind of unavoidable expense like an electricity bill.
Clue: it's an optional, luxury purchase.
I don’t have a PS5. I didn’t get a PS4 until 2018, roughly 5 years after its release, so the same point in its life as the PS5 is now. All I can say is that when I got PS4, there were so many games I wanted to play that I was spoiled for choice on what to get, and I was buying games for months and months just to catch up on everything. Looking at PS5’s library, I honestly can’t think of any games I really want to play other than Astro-bot. It’s just such a different landscape to what is was with the PS4.
@nessisonett I agree with this to some extent but, one thing that sticks out in my mind is how long these first party AAA titles take to develop these days. The cycles are significantly longer than PS4 let alone PS2. Look at Rockstar for a third party example. If console generations continue along a similar timeline then this issue will only become more frustrating for some gamers. I'm not sure what the answer is but I've been very satisfied with this generation all things considered.
other than astro bot and returnal not really been impressed with anything else though god of war 2 was worst than the first though spiderman 2 was worse then the first probably sonys worst gen for me
2029. I don't want a new console until prices are not so whacky. Console prices should go down over time but the market is so dysfunctional right now that isn't possible. Don't release a new console until it's possible again.
Despite the moaning in the comments, I am actually happy to see that the results are quite positive!
A good majority of the people on the site are capping for sure. Most people here despite the complaining will still purchase the ps6
NES was my first console. Ps6 is the first console I’m not excited for in the slightest. I remember the excitement for n64 and then the ps2 and the Xbox 360 so vividly. (how could you fumble that momentum from 360 so bad Microsoft?) Since the ps360 era each gen has come and gone with less enthusiasm. Ps6 will be the first I take a wait and see approach. I’ll probably wait till the 6 pro comes out. If I upgrade at all
Anyone calling the PS5 "an awful system" is obviously insane.
Would be the exact same as saying oxygen isn't needed or water isn't wet.
Been gaming since the PS2 era but I've played every generation of consoles from SNES onward. This is by far the biggest letdown as a generation as a whole, no competition. The only console really interesting to me was the Switch, and frankly I think they messed that up a bit with the Switch 2 which I'm a lot less interested in. This has been my least favorite Playstation, and I think we can mostly all agree Xbox has gone off the rails and is currently metaphorically rolling down a steep hill into the woods. Don't get me wrong, the PS5 isn't a bad console by far. But i've never felt so indifferent to a console as I have been with this one.
..... I can not believe I am seeing people say 2027 for the PS6.
Naughty Dog and Bend haven't even released a game yet this generation. I shouldn't be surprised. The enshittificatiin of everything has lowered the standards and gamers have been conditioned.
2029 at the earliest for a PS6 for me. Would prefer 2030 for the launch. With diminishing returns for new consoles these days, the PS5 is just getting started as far as I'm concerned.
ps1: 10/10
ps2: 10/10
ps3: 8/10
ps4: 9/10
ps5: 6/10
A lot goes into my evaluation:
1. My time with the hardware (PS5 +PS5 PRO, dualsense)
2. My time with the peripheral hardware (Portal + PSVR2)
3. First Party output, Second Party Output, Third Party Output.
4. Sony Playstation's strategizing and focus + results
5. PS Plus
As I have had the digital PS5 since launch and the PS5 Pro for a while, I can genuinely say that each machine has served my needs par excellence. I think that the visual output delivered by my Pro and new, vibrant LCD-Screen is the most 'bang for the buck' in modern gaming. 10/10
The portal and PSVR2 has provided me with gaming in niche ways, and become a trusty travel buddy. Immersing myself or lying in bed are great alternatives to comfortable couch-sitting. The technology is impressive and inviting. I have too much to play to say that I've used PSVR2 as much as I'd want, though. 9/10
The output by first party has largely been a little disappointing in terms of potential - that blind gold rush for live service titles is the source of much of my anger. Nevertheless, I have more games to play than I can find time for. My own strategy was to not rush through games (nor do I think I even can do that with how they're designed) has made sure I at ALL TIMES have had true next-gen experiences at the ready - so no show studios like Bend and Naughty Dog is almost a relief at this point. Second and third party support has been 10/10. We're living in a Golden Age of Gaming.10/10
In terms of Playstation's overall strategy, Jim Ryan's Playstation killed off the XBOX or left it for dead anyways. Besides being consumer-friendly in terms of pricing (new games are expensive but not if you count how much quality time you can get out of each dollar). The biggest upturn has been the quality of PS PLUS. This last year has seen Extra/Premium rise to become the best value-for-money service in my estimation. A huge point deducted for the blind goldrush for Live Service that killed off reputable studios and created infamous ones like Haven. 9/10
If I do the math, we arrive somewhere in the range of 9.5/10.
@Junghova
Same here. I have been gaming since the Odyssey.
The PS5, in my opinion, is the worst console Sony has released.
For most of this cycle it has only had remakes or remasters. That is fine for people that never played the games, but us old timers that grew up gaming, I feel we just do not care for those, because it is a been there done that.
I love gaming, and I have a HUGE back catalog on PS5/PS4 and Switch, so I will hold off on the PS6 so I can catch up on the games that I have not played yet.
If it had more great new games, it would be way better..its severely lacking compared ps3/xbox360 days
The number of big games has been highly disappointing, and the games don't do nearly enough of what I hoped that they could and would to improve upon prior generations. The focus is far too heavily on the wrong things, IMO.
PS5 has been good and it's an impressive technical achievement, but really it's continuing the trends the PS5 laid down, and is generally more of a follower than a new console. PS5 games are still carrying the emotional storytelling throne The Last of Us jubilantly sits on, and I think the big hitters are pretentious despite having some deep moments. Astro Bot is the best game on PS5 in my mind because it actually dares to be fun and colourful. Yeah gamers might scoff at it and say it's too much like a Super Mario game, but considering that it's more joyful than the other big SIE games in the past two-decades, it certainly stands out. It doesn't get a 94 on Metacritic for no reason.
@Junghova I also began with Atari 2600 but am still planning on getting ps6 whenever it comes... If I'm still alive. Just wondering WHY you're stopping?
The hardware is great (ugly but very good). The software lineup has been okay. 3rd party has been strong.
I’ve really enjoyed the PS5 this generation. Moreso than I expected to. Helldivers 2, ARC Raiders, Silent Hill 2, Stellar Blade, Astro Bot and others have been excellent titles. I’ve enjoyed it.
Because game design is not evolving with the hardware. I'm just tired and after getting a PS5 pro at launch, the idea (and cost) of a PS6 doesn't excite me in the least if gamers will be mainly playing remasters of games from before or AI designed games, etc. who cares how good the graphics will be
No complaints here. I’m perfectly happy with my PS5 Pro (and my Portal and my PSVR2). The hardware is nice and the library is wide and deep.
I’m currently playing Roboquest VR (lots of weird guns and for my money the best VR fps since Synapse), Sektori (a gorgeous twin stick shooter from an ex-Housemarque developer very in line with their 2D games and of course Geometry Wars), Helldivers 2 (whose intense co-op action reminds me of arcade classics like Smash TV) and Luminees Arise (I admittedly suck at it but I love the audiovisuals).
I´m happy with my PS5 and dualsense is definitely best PS controller so far. I wish we had more 1st party games by now, but it is as it is. BC is great, have still lot of PS4 games to play...and that´s also one of the reason I really don´t care about PS6 at all. PS5 will be supported definitely few years after PS6 launch and I believe it´ll be harder for Sony to make me buy PS6 any time soon (Bloodborne remake for PS6 only might change that...) and god knows what the prices will be in 2027-2028 so that´s another factor for me to stick with PS5 as long as it´s acceptable for me
@Junghova Same started with 2600 than a commodore 64 but ps6 will be my last unless my grand kids keep me gaming !
@Porco
ps1 ( 9-10)
ps2 (10-10)
;s3 (8-10)
ps4 (9_10)
ps5 (10-10)
hell load times alone make the ps5 worth buying anything after that made it gravy and more that enough games for me !
@Repo_Dog
putting the ps5 ahead of the ps1/ps4 and on par with the ps2 is just factually incorrect. all you would need to do is refresh your memory on prior console generations and their game libraries. they all put the ps5 to shame and are simply too vast to have such a misunderstanding so i think people such as yourself are unable to seperate themselves from the moment. your opinion is clouded by recency bias. i will go beyond that and call your list blasphemy. each to their own i guess
@Porco No child it is called a opinion and it is mine may not be yours's but to each his own and this is my one and only response to childish bs !
PS I still own all past consoles from Atari 2600 to ps5 pro except xbox they are all gone !
@Repo_Dog let's put it this way: 90% of IPs that are still relevent today started out in the ps1/ps2/ps3 eras... how many new IPs do you count from the ps5 era? that should be all you need to know to make an informed judgement and understand just how impactful sony's earlier consoles were. the AAA space at large was firing on all cylinders. the ps5 is a laughing stock by comparison. the only good thing from this era of gaming is the indi scene, but sony and the AAA space has nothing to do with that
I can't believe that there are people saying that a PS4 with a SSD = PS5's SSD. The latter literally uses the SSD to stream assets as fast as possible, working alongside the console's GPU, while reducing load times. Wow, people are spreading misinformation like there's no tomorrow
@nessisonett LOL LOL LOL
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