@SterlingEyes I think we are seeing a tipping point towards more mainstream PC gaming. Steam Deck is fabulous. An OK gaming laptop is £800. I mean one could keep base PS5 and buy a laptop or deck and have change from the £825 Pro.
I could hypothetically buy Pro today but that doesn’t make it a good deal.
Where has ‘4 the Players’ gone? It’s pure greed.
£825 to play cross gen with more flowers. And only as 4 year shelf-life max. Wow.
@idiotthechef sssshhhhhhh. You are not allowed to go against the grain on this thread. You will be labelled ‘jealous’ and ‘pathetic’ for not being a mark for a cumulative cost of £1200 or something for the PS5 and PS5 Pro this gen.
Jokes aside, Sony haven’t let go of the PS4 generation, PS5 is getting more expensive and we were promised more in terms of features etc.
I agree with NEStalgia Sony are pricing people towards PC imo and I’ve had every single PlayStation (bar Pro models 😂.) I’ve got into PC gaming this year in fact. Free cloud saves, free online, multiple stores and cheaper games. Can you have a great time on an £800 laptop which also does business, school work, etc. yes.
I love PlayStation, I love console, but I don’t know anyone in my friendship circle who has upgraded to a 5 and no way will they go Pro for £700 to play PS4.5 games.
If Sony massively dropped the base price for the 5 when the Pro hits that would be a great move imo. Sony seem to have lost ‘something’ since the ‘4 the players’ PS4 days.
@LogicStrikesAgain This is capitalist FOMO. How long until we get 2 Pros every ‘generation?’ Consoles (except Nintendo) seem to be becoming very niche and fear missing out on the average customer they need to be relevant and profitable.
Wow. Who knew. Didn’t even bother with CPR. Great advert for the £700 Pro. What first party games we getting with that sound investment? Concord reanimated. DOA.
@PuppetMaster This is controversial… but understand I’m a massive Indy fan… the films should have moved to a new and younger actor 4th film onwards with Indy stories in his prime… the way that no one person is James Bond forever… Indy 5 was absolutely dreadful. Just my opinion.
So hyped for this game though.
So are we expecting another batch of ports to be announced then? Xbox has some good games and here’s the truth: people will buy those games day 1. I’d buy Forza Horizon 5. Should Game Pass exclude all AAA and have smaller games and online access for much cheaper each month? Why not sell exclusives full price and build your console brand? What do I know though!
@TurboTom dreaming of actual games for it… still seems stunning to me that PS5 Pro is likely a thing when PS5 doesn’t have much that actually pushes it 4 years in. Although… maybe the Pro will come with new games… keep dreaming!!!
One positive spin on all this is that there are fantastic Xbox games such as Forza Horizon, Gears, Halo, Flight Sim, Age of Empires and more that would make so much money for Microsoft on PS. Phil said they can’t win any console war (have they tried?) so I say port everything at this point. PS gamers are in for a real treat with fantastic games. I know it’s a kick in the teeth to long time Xbox fans but it’s reality and may secure the brand’s future if you know what I mean? Being a massive publisher with some sort of small console platform footprint mixed with PC and phone etc seems viable to me in the circs.
@Runex2121 Forza Horizon games are incredible. How do you get on with the Portal? Not sure about it as a streamer tied to the box (PS5 is pretty ugly, especially the slim, you are right but has grown on me a little…) I can’t get on with Cloud gaming yet but enough people seem happy with the Portal?
@OldGamer999 you are probably right as it was mentioned before? Forza Horizon would be fantastic though albeit I have on PC.
Should Xbox go full publisher? I tapped out of my Series X and have gone all in on PS5 and PC.
I’m a massive Prey and Dishonored fan and didn’t know Weird West was made by the same people/person? Recommended??? I’m pretty excited about the new Bioshock games too (4 and Judas.)
@Matthewnh it’s completely not required. One could argue the PS5 is actually a PS4 Pro Pro. I don’t think PS5 is too expensive per se but I think it lacks, for some people, a reason to upgrade from a PS4. Same games that should run better but at the cost of £500 upfront. That’s an issue. The PS5 Pro could be great on paper but if it plays PS4 games then what is its point? It needs more than just raw beef imo. I’m not being anti but clearly there is so much more potential in the PS5 we haven’t seen. 4 years in and every game is cross gen and remasters…. Available on the PS4.
@IOI and others… I 100% agree. PS4 has been around for ages and most games are cross gen or remasters. There aren’t enough actual PS5 games. Lost generation for sure. I said this on the ‘Lollipop’ news article and was met with typical keyboard warrior nasty comments… for having an opinion. An opinion many share. 😂
The truth is that these hero shooters are boring, mediocre parodies made by people who don’t game or respect the medium (in my opinion.) It’s cynical, quick-buck trash and at £40 to enter, it’s doomed. Big L for Sony with not much else to back it up this year.
It is crazy though that they are still making PS4 games, this gen hasn’t really begun and they are pushing a Pro… with what games? I do think they need to transition from PS4 and maybe help people upgrade with incentives and actually make games. PS6 will be out with PS6, 5 & 4 ‘cross gen’ versions of every generic annual sports title. Crazy.
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Re: PS5 Pro Can Run PS4 Games Better Via Improved Backwards Compatibility
Wow. How insulting. £825 to play PS4. Could be an Xbox One reveal moment…
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@OldGamer999 2TB.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@Kienda at least it keeps the relationship with Sony simple. Leave.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@SterlingEyes I think we are seeing a tipping point towards more mainstream PC gaming. Steam Deck is fabulous. An OK gaming laptop is £800. I mean one could keep base PS5 and buy a laptop or deck and have change from the £825 Pro.
I could hypothetically buy Pro today but that doesn’t make it a good deal.
Where has ‘4 the Players’ gone? It’s pure greed.
£825 to play cross gen with more flowers. And only as 4 year shelf-life max. Wow.
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@idiotthechef sssshhhhhhh. You are not allowed to go against the grain on this thread. You will be labelled ‘jealous’ and ‘pathetic’ for not being a mark for a cumulative cost of £1200 or something for the PS5 and PS5 Pro this gen.
Jokes aside, Sony haven’t let go of the PS4 generation, PS5 is getting more expensive and we were promised more in terms of features etc.
I agree with NEStalgia Sony are pricing people towards PC imo and I’ve had every single PlayStation (bar Pro models 😂.) I’ve got into PC gaming this year in fact. Free cloud saves, free online, multiple stores and cheaper games. Can you have a great time on an £800 laptop which also does business, school work, etc. yes.
I love PlayStation, I love console, but I don’t know anyone in my friendship circle who has upgraded to a 5 and no way will they go Pro for £700 to play PS4.5 games.
If Sony massively dropped the base price for the 5 when the Pro hits that would be a great move imo. Sony seem to have lost ‘something’ since the ‘4 the players’ PS4 days.
Just my genuine, non jealous opinion. 😃
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@LogicStrikesAgain This is capitalist FOMO. How long until we get 2 Pros every ‘generation?’
Consoles (except Nintendo) seem to be becoming very niche and fear missing out on the average customer they need to be relevant and profitable.
Re: Guns More of a 'Fallback Solution' in Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
I cannot wait for this game. PC Game Pass day 1 then buy on PS5 Day 30? If it’s good.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
Wow. Who knew. Didn’t even bother with CPR.
Great advert for the £700 Pro. What first party games we getting with that sound investment? Concord reanimated. DOA.
Re: Harry Potter: Quidditch Champions Release Times: When Can You Start Playing?
Sus that there are zero reviews out there and lack of actual gameplay… fingers crossed though.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Live Service Shooter XDefiant on Brink of Being Shut Down
Ex-Defiant.
Customers just don’t want these games.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
Sounds like an over-estimate of 25,000.
Re: How Much Would You Pay for Your PS5 Games? Dev Says Industry Is Waiting for GTA 6 to Hike Prices
Truth is these endless cross gen remasters will reach £100/$100 day 1. Don’t buy.
But… others will… and £900 on a Pro for 3 years’ use with a disc drive ‘xtra.’ Pay has no limits!
Re: How Much Would You Pay for Your PS5 Games? Dev Says Industry Is Waiting for GTA 6 to Hike Prices
Actually give us some PS5 games and we might give some money.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Design Seemingly Leaked
@Luna-Harmony yeah it’s crazy. Just need games at this point.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Design Seemingly Leaked
@BloodyBlact I sold all my PS4 discs and used the cash to get digital versions when on sale. I’m all digital now this gen. All in. Love it.
Re: Players Complain of Lengthy PS5 Matchmaking Times As Concord Numbers Dwindle
BTW, my wait time is… FOREVER.
Re: Players Complain of Lengthy PS5 Matchmaking Times As Concord Numbers Dwindle
Dead on arrival. Who knew.
Re: Crash Bandicoot 5 Reportedly Cut in Favour of More Live Service Games
Activision and GAAS are simply garbage.
Re: Site News: Where's Our Concord PS5, PC Review?
@get2sammyb like the Jumanji board game; if you don’t bury it deep, others will.
Re: Site News: Where's Our Concord PS5, PC Review?
It’s apparently called Concorde because up to 128 people will give it a go at launch.
Re: Explore an Apocalyptic Britain in Atomfall on PS5, PS4 Early Next Year
@get2sammyb thank you! It’s yours for free!
Re: Explore an Apocalyptic Britain in Atomfall on PS5, PS4 Early Next Year
The hills have ‘why ayes!’ Looks mint tbh.
Re: Xbox Renegotiated Indiana Jones Deal to Exclude PS5, Then Ported It Anyway
Xbox is the ‘Temple of Gloom’ if anyone wants that one…
Re: Xbox Renegotiated Indiana Jones Deal to Exclude PS5, Then Ported It Anyway
@PuppetMaster This is controversial… but understand I’m a massive Indy fan… the films should have moved to a new and younger actor 4th film onwards with Indy stories in his prime… the way that no one person is James Bond forever… Indy 5 was absolutely dreadful. Just my opinion.
So hyped for this game though.
Re: Xbox Renegotiated Indiana Jones Deal to Exclude PS5, Then Ported It Anyway
@CaptD brilliant reference 👏🏻
Re: Xbox on Bringing Exclusives to PS5: The Industry Is Changing for All of Us
So are we expecting another batch of ports to be announced then? Xbox has some good games and here’s the truth: people will buy those games day 1. I’d buy Forza Horizon 5.
Should Game Pass exclude all AAA and have smaller games and online access for much cheaper each month? Why not sell exclusives full price and build your console brand? What do I know though!
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Gamescom Opening Night Live 2024?
Indiana Jones and the Great Console.
Re: Civilization 7 Confirmed for February on PS5, PS4 with First Look at Gameplay
I’m so there for this!
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations Goes Nostalgia Overload with Dreamcast-Heavy Collector's Edition
@TurboTom dreaming of actual games for it… still seems stunning to me that PS5 Pro is likely a thing when PS5 doesn’t have much that actually pushes it 4 years in. Although… maybe the Pro will come with new games… keep dreaming!!!
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations Goes Nostalgia Overload with Dreamcast-Heavy Collector's Edition
@TurboTom DreamStation 64
Re: Poll: What PS5 Games Do You Most Want to See at Gamescom 2024?
Forza Horizon 5
Re: Rumour: Xbox's Indiana Jones Game Coming to PS5 in First Half 2025
@Frmknst it’s not free though to be fair. But good value if you can finish the game in 1-3 months.
Re: Rumour: Xbox to Announce a 'Big' Game Coming to PS5 at Gamescom
One positive spin on all this is that there are fantastic Xbox games such as Forza Horizon, Gears, Halo, Flight Sim, Age of Empires and more that would make so much money for Microsoft on PS. Phil said they can’t win any console war (have they tried?) so I say port everything at this point. PS gamers are in for a real treat with fantastic games. I know it’s a kick in the teeth to long time Xbox fans but it’s reality and may secure the brand’s future if you know what I mean? Being a massive publisher with some sort of small console platform footprint mixed with PC and phone etc seems viable to me in the circs.
Re: Rumour: Xbox to Announce a 'Big' Game Coming to PS5 at Gamescom
@Runex2121 Forza Horizon games are incredible. How do you get on with the Portal? Not sure about it as a streamer tied to the box (PS5 is pretty ugly, especially the slim, you are right but has grown on me a little…) I can’t get on with Cloud gaming yet but enough people seem happy with the Portal?
Re: Rumour: Xbox to Announce a 'Big' Game Coming to PS5 at Gamescom
@OldGamer999 you are probably right as it was mentioned before? Forza Horizon would be fantastic though albeit I have on PC.
Should Xbox go full publisher? I tapped out of my Series X and have gone all in on PS5 and PC.
Re: SEGA Announces Two Point Museum for PS5
Looks fantastic! Genuinely looking forward to this. Great series.
Re: Deals: PS5 Price Cuts Continue with Savings on Consoles, Games, and Accessories (Europe)
£350 for digital slim is good value imo.
Re: Preview: Dead Rising Plays and Looks Like a Dream in PS5 Deluxe Remaster
Despite being another remaster/remake, it does look absolutely fantastic and great video preview from Push.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Needs a Price Cut
@Matthewnh yep… They are pretty much all PS4 Pro Pro games.
It’s such a bizarre generation.
Re: Movie Review: Borderlands - As Bland As the Brand It's Based On
Looks like a ‘Concord’ cutscene. 😂
Re: Preview: Space Marine 2 Is a PS5 Blockbuster That's Worth the Hype
Looks very good.
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Studio Really Will Try and Port the Game to PS4
@tangyzesty 100% 😂
Re: Fans of Dishonored, Prey 'Will Be Happy' with Weird West Dev's Next Game
I’m a massive Prey and Dishonored fan and didn’t know Weird West was made by the same people/person? Recommended???
I’m pretty excited about the new Bioshock games too (4 and Judas.)
Re: Reaction: PS5 Needs a Price Cut
@Matthewnh it’s completely not required. One could argue the PS5 is actually a PS4 Pro Pro.
I don’t think PS5 is too expensive per se but I think it lacks, for some people, a reason to upgrade from a PS4. Same games that should run better but at the cost of £500 upfront. That’s an issue.
The PS5 Pro could be great on paper but if it plays PS4 games then what is its point? It needs more than just raw beef imo.
I’m not being anti but clearly there is so much more potential in the PS5 we haven’t seen. 4 years in and every game is cross gen and remasters…. Available on the PS4.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Needs a Price Cut
@IOI and others… I 100% agree. PS4 has been around for ages and most games are cross gen or remasters. There aren’t enough actual PS5 games. Lost generation for sure. I said this on the ‘Lollipop’ news article and was met with typical keyboard warrior nasty comments… for having an opinion. An opinion many share. 😂
Re: Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP Brought Forward Two Weeks, Priced at $45
I want new actual PS5 games.
Re: Concord's PS5, PC Character Trailers Are Rolling Out
The truth is that these hero shooters are boring, mediocre parodies made by people who don’t game or respect the medium (in my opinion.) It’s cynical, quick-buck trash and at £40 to enter, it’s doomed. Big L for Sony with not much else to back it up this year.
Re: Concord's PS5, PC Character Trailers Are Rolling Out
‘PC Character’ trailers 😂
Re: PS5 Pro Is Seemingly Starting to Appear in Source Code
@TheArt amazing! lol
It is crazy though that they are still making PS4 games, this gen hasn’t really begun and they are pushing a Pro… with what games? I do think they need to transition from PS4 and maybe help people upgrade with incentives and actually make games. PS6 will be out with PS6, 5 & 4 ‘cross gen’ versions of every generic annual sports title. Crazy.
Re: EA Sports FC 25 Kicks Off in September on PS5, PS4
Ironic that a footballer’s wage is now required to purchase a video game of the sport. £150. Jesus.