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@NoHope unless Xbox sits up from the canvas like the Undertaker, no one is coming Chief.

£825 to play a noughties toilet humour game in GTA6 at maybe 60fps? I’m good.

@electrolite77 this console gen is by and large forgettable if not just garbage. Nintendo seem to be the only company with any magic and on low spec hardware. It’s always about the games.
Sony are doing PS4.5 Pro for nearly a G. Whales will lap it up. For me this could be the Xbox One moment for Sony. The lack of respect here towards punters is astonishing.
Xbox just needs to go full slate as I like the games.
PC has Steam etc without the BS add-ons and endless subs. It can be a family machine for all sorts of tasks. Good value.
The fact we are comparing a mid gen refresh console with PC prices and no new games says it all.
Sony should have hired ‘Two-Tier’ Kier for the video.

@Frmknst how much waning goodwill does this move cost Sony?

Wow. How insulting. £825 to play PS4. Could be an Xbox One reveal moment…

@OldGamer999 2TB.

@Kienda at least it keeps the relationship with Sony simple. Leave.

@SterlingEyes I think we are seeing a tipping point towards more mainstream PC gaming. Steam Deck is fabulous. An OK gaming laptop is £800. I mean one could keep base PS5 and buy a laptop or deck and have change from the £825 Pro.

I could hypothetically buy Pro today but that doesn’t make it a good deal.

Where has ‘4 the Players’ gone? It’s pure greed.

£825 to play cross gen with more flowers. And only as 4 year shelf-life max. Wow.

@idiotthechef sssshhhhhhh. You are not allowed to go against the grain on this thread. You will be labelled ‘jealous’ and ‘pathetic’ for not being a mark for a cumulative cost of £1200 or something for the PS5 and PS5 Pro this gen.

Jokes aside, Sony haven’t let go of the PS4 generation, PS5 is getting more expensive and we were promised more in terms of features etc.

I agree with NEStalgia Sony are pricing people towards PC imo and I’ve had every single PlayStation (bar Pro models 😂.) I’ve got into PC gaming this year in fact. Free cloud saves, free online, multiple stores and cheaper games. Can you have a great time on an £800 laptop which also does business, school work, etc. yes.

I love PlayStation, I love console, but I don’t know anyone in my friendship circle who has upgraded to a 5 and no way will they go Pro for £700 to play PS4.5 games.

If Sony massively dropped the base price for the 5 when the Pro hits that would be a great move imo. Sony seem to have lost ‘something’ since the ‘4 the players’ PS4 days.

Just my genuine, non jealous opinion. 😃

@LogicStrikesAgain This is capitalist FOMO. How long until we get 2 Pros every ‘generation?’
Consoles (except Nintendo) seem to be becoming very niche and fear missing out on the average customer they need to be relevant and profitable.

I cannot wait for this game. PC Game Pass day 1 then buy on PS5 Day 30? If it’s good.

Wow. Who knew. Didn’t even bother with CPR.
Great advert for the £700 Pro. What first party games we getting with that sound investment? Concord reanimated. DOA.

Sus that there are zero reviews out there and lack of actual gameplay… fingers crossed though.

Ex-Defiant.

Customers just don’t want these games.

Sounds like an over-estimate of 25,000.

Truth is these endless cross gen remasters will reach £100/$100 day 1. Don’t buy.

But… others will… and £900 on a Pro for 3 years’ use with a disc drive ‘xtra.’ Pay has no limits!

Actually give us some PS5 games and we might give some money.

@Luna-Harmony yeah it’s crazy. Just need games at this point.

@BloodyBlact I sold all my PS4 discs and used the cash to get digital versions when on sale. I’m all digital now this gen. All in. Love it.

BTW, my wait time is… FOREVER.

Dead on arrival. Who knew.

Activision and GAAS are simply garbage.

@get2sammyb like the Jumanji board game; if you don’t bury it deep, others will.

It’s apparently called Concorde because up to 128 people will give it a go at launch.

@get2sammyb thank you! It’s yours for free!

The hills have ‘why ayes!’ Looks mint tbh.

Xbox is the ‘Temple of Gloom’ if anyone wants that one…

@PuppetMaster This is controversial… but understand I’m a massive Indy fan… the films should have moved to a new and younger actor 4th film onwards with Indy stories in his prime… the way that no one person is James Bond forever… Indy 5 was absolutely dreadful. Just my opinion.
So hyped for this game though.

@CaptD brilliant reference 👏🏻

So are we expecting another batch of ports to be announced then? Xbox has some good games and here’s the truth: people will buy those games day 1. I’d buy Forza Horizon 5.
Should Game Pass exclude all AAA and have smaller games and online access for much cheaper each month? Why not sell exclusives full price and build your console brand? What do I know though!

Indiana Jones and the Great Console.

I’m so there for this!

@TurboTom dreaming of actual games for it… still seems stunning to me that PS5 Pro is likely a thing when PS5 doesn’t have much that actually pushes it 4 years in. Although… maybe the Pro will come with new games… keep dreaming!!!

@TurboTom DreamStation 64

Forza Horizon 5

@Frmknst it’s not free though to be fair. But good value if you can finish the game in 1-3 months.

One positive spin on all this is that there are fantastic Xbox games such as Forza Horizon, Gears, Halo, Flight Sim, Age of Empires and more that would make so much money for Microsoft on PS. Phil said they can’t win any console war (have they tried?) so I say port everything at this point. PS gamers are in for a real treat with fantastic games. I know it’s a kick in the teeth to long time Xbox fans but it’s reality and may secure the brand’s future if you know what I mean? Being a massive publisher with some sort of small console platform footprint mixed with PC and phone etc seems viable to me in the circs.

@Runex2121 Forza Horizon games are incredible. How do you get on with the Portal? Not sure about it as a streamer tied to the box (PS5 is pretty ugly, especially the slim, you are right but has grown on me a little…) I can’t get on with Cloud gaming yet but enough people seem happy with the Portal?

@OldGamer999 you are probably right as it was mentioned before? Forza Horizon would be fantastic though albeit I have on PC.
Should Xbox go full publisher? I tapped out of my Series X and have gone all in on PS5 and PC.

Looks fantastic! Genuinely looking forward to this. Great series.

£350 for digital slim is good value imo.

Despite being another remaster/remake, it does look absolutely fantastic and great video preview from Push.

@Matthewnh yep… They are pretty much all PS4 Pro Pro games.
It’s such a bizarre generation.

Looks like a ‘Concord’ cutscene. 😂

Looks very good.

@tangyzesty 100% 😂

I’m a massive Prey and Dishonored fan and didn’t know Weird West was made by the same people/person? Recommended???
I’m pretty excited about the new Bioshock games too (4 and Judas.)

@Matthewnh it’s completely not required. One could argue the PS5 is actually a PS4 Pro Pro.
I don’t think PS5 is too expensive per se but I think it lacks, for some people, a reason to upgrade from a PS4. Same games that should run better but at the cost of £500 upfront. That’s an issue.
The PS5 Pro could be great on paper but if it plays PS4 games then what is its point? It needs more than just raw beef imo.
I’m not being anti but clearly there is so much more potential in the PS5 we haven’t seen. 4 years in and every game is cross gen and remasters…. Available on the PS4.

@IOI and others… I 100% agree. PS4 has been around for ages and most games are cross gen or remasters. There aren’t enough actual PS5 games. Lost generation for sure. I said this on the ‘Lollipop’ news article and was met with typical keyboard warrior nasty comments… for having an opinion. An opinion many share. 😂

I want new actual PS5 games.