I'm just glad Jim Ryan stepped down from Sony's management. Guy didn't know what the ***** he was doing (even though still looks like his substitutes are as clueless as he was)
The game was made in Unreal Engine 4, not 5. Native 4K with Ray Tracing at a quite stable 60fps on PS5 is a huge technical feat. Don't know why Metaphor Refantazio doesn't use this engine instead of that outdated thing that was used back in Persona 5...ugh
@Nyne11Tyme in Brazil lol You can pay 6.500 upfront in some websites, but most people will use credit card and pay in installments, and that's when the price goes up to 7000, and that's not including the disc drive
I was waiting for Persona 3 Reload, but nope...the standard edition isn't on sale. Very disappointing sales for me. Best deal for me are the Timesplitters games. Hell, Robocop is actually more expensive now than it was on the last sale in Brazil lol At least I'll be saving some good money this time around, as I'll probably buy only 2 Timesplitters games and that's it.
Thank you for the reminder. Anyways, I'll keep playing my games on my PS5, while waiting for the PS6, because now you made me remind myself that the Pro costs 7K bucks in my country, and that's too much for me and almost everyone living here
The only mod i ever used while playing Remake on PC was one that tried (unsuccessfully) to fix the stutterfest that the game was, like most UE4 games on PC are. I'm glad that i don't have to go through this kind of headache again on consoles
Yep, I'm glad i skipped this console. Its cost and performance/image quality improvements isn't enough to convince me to spend 7K + 800 bucks (for the detachable disc drive) to get one. I just hope that by the time PS6 comes out in 3 years, that it can do PSSR better <<<in every game>>> (and it'll probably will) so i can play PS5 games via BC, just like I'm doing with PS4 games, with better image quality and stable performance without the need to rely on a TV with VRR
Nice! Finally a game update that has nothing to do with the Pro and that might actually add something interesting for me and everyone else. Just don't break the game with this update, CDPR...please, I'm actually in a middle of a playthrough right now and I'm just loving the 3D audio implementation of this game on the PS5. The best 3D audio (alongside Returnal) I've heard so far
Last year, my time spending playing on my PS4 was shameful. I think i only played a few hours of God of War Ragnarok and that's it. I was playing too much on PC. This year it's the opposite (thankfully). I'm pretty sure the game i played the most was Elden Ring on my PS5, since i decided to start a whole new save just to play the DLC. My total time with that game today is +450h. And after that, is probably Rebirth and then either Risk of Rain 2 or Banishers
I don't need new things on my consoles, i just need an affordable machine that can run games decently, without too much headaches, and consoles can do that just fine, thank you.
Why not making them permanent? The 30th anniversary will last for a whole year, so let us at least keep the boot up screen and themes for this amount of time...
OR, even better, let everyone that owns a PS5 until now to keep these things forever.
Definitely gonna pick this up on PS5. I was aware about this game but i didn't want to buy on PC and i haven't used Game Pass anymore since 2022 (i just pay when they put the price at 5 bucks, anything more than that is not worth for me). Great news
@LowDefAl yeah, i know what you mean. On PC you can still rely on DLSS or lower resolution and/or other settings to make things run better. I would definitely play something like Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition at 1080p instead of higher resolutions, for example. Now the Pro can run the game decently, but i can't because Capcom doesn't allow me to change resolution (and this version isn't available on PC)
And yes, in Brazil games and consoles are really expensive. I just hope that PS6 won't be as expensive as the Pro. I prefer console over PC, but if they keep doing this I'll have no choice but to get a PC and that's quite unfortunate, since i own +300 games on my PS4 and PS5, digital and physical and i would love to keep playing these games on PS6.
Watching the whole Black Myth Wukong video i get the impression that the framerate drops as much as the base console against bosses in the forest area. The tutorial area is the only place where there's a gap between both versions. They'll need to patch this game with PSSR and remove frame gen, but if the game fails to reach 60fps with PSSR then it's not gonna help a lot
Also, I've watched DF's video and the fact that Alan Wake 2 at this moment runs sometimes a little better in performance mode on base PS5 than on Pro (according to Oliver and footage shown proves that) it's crazy. I'm disappointed that FFXVI still can't reach 60fps on any console too, only on PC. Baldur's Gate 3 performance was pretty much unchanged from base PS5 because of how CPU heavy that game is. This means that any future CPU bound game will make this console struggle.
I was expecting a locked 60fps in all existing games, patched or not (especially not patched, because the console would brute force performance), and future games as well. Games will become more demanding as time goes on, but i can always rely on 30fps when using my PS5, i know the limitations of my console. PS5 Pro should not need that, but I'm not sure if the console will keep up with more demanding games in the future, unless they rely a lot on frame gen technology, if PSSR fails to mantain a stable 60fps. The fact is, for 7K reais (a little over 1K dollars in USA...yes this thing is VERY expensive in Brazil), this upgrade is not worth for me. A PS6 (if isn't that expensive) is the better choice for me, or maybe a PC, who knows.
This is probably the last time I'll talk about the Pro. Obviously, this is MY opinion, I'm not here to argue if someone wants a Pro. I'm just stating my opinion. If you want one, more power to ya, but I'll be skipping this one, just like i did with PS4 Pro.
Some people already got their hands on the Pro and they're already posting performance videos on YouTube (with framerate and frametime counter, just like Digital Foundry). Alan Wake 2 (which already got the Pro patch on October 22nd) can't hit a locked 60fps at a internal resolution of 864p (vs the 847p of the base console) when playing as Saga Anderson in Cauldron Lake (the same spot the base PS5 struggled to hit 60fps) and Elden Ring doesn't run at a locked 60fps too, even on Limgrave, so i presume Liurnia of the Lake and the whole DLC area will be worse
lol no I'm not even interested in this game and even if i was, i wouldn't be buying a new console just to play it (and that's presuming that the Pro will run this game at a stable 60fps at a higher resolution and better graphics)
No, I'm not tired of Soulslikes, but I'm definitely tired of annoying inserted opinions in articles that have nothing to do with reviews, all of them made by the same guy that complains and whine about everything
Great news. Horrible way of announcing these games, since this is supposed to be news articles, not a review. Not the first time I've seen this around here and it's always the same person.
Anyway, I'm glad that IV and Chronicles are getting the same remastered treatment. Chronicles was one of my favorite games alongside 1 and 2 when i was a kid. Never played AoD, this is going to be the first time playing it.
I almost forgot that Sony still release games on PS5, then i remembered that they put out Astro Bot this year and soon they'll release... Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (also on PC, of course)
Anyway, i really like playing on my PS5 but what's keeping me on the system is the 3rd party support, BC (which is very good) and just because i prefer consoles over PC since they're easier to plug and play (and PC ports can either be OK or a total garbage that the community has to fix with mods, it's 50/50 chance with every new game release). Having said that, if the PS6 is as expensive as a PS5 Pro here in Brazil (7k reais isn't small amount of money) then I'll go back to PC and never look back. A decent notebook is costing as much as a PS5 Pro here and I'm sure this will not change when the PS6 is out.
Sony is pretty much saying to players "you don't have to buy our consoles anymore, just wait a while and play all of our recently released PS games on PC but cheaper!" so why would i keep buying consoles? No need to.
To be honest it's hard for me to see Sony still releasing consoles in the long run if:
They keep spending millions of dollars on ***** like Concord or that other online game that will come out soon (can't remember the name)
They can't make people see valid reasons to get a PlayStation instead of a PC or Xbox or even a Nintendo Switch. Speaking of which...
Nintendo probably spends like 1/3 of Sony's budget in their own games since they don't have a very powerful hardware so they don't have to release PC ports to recoup the costs of whatever they spent developing any game and yet they release some stuff on mobile to earn extra money just because they can, while keeping their games exclusives to their consoles. Also they can actually make people see value in their games, to the point where they can even overprice their stuff and people will still buy them and they can only buy them in one place and in one console because exclusivity.
I love playing on consoles but gaming is getting more and more expensive to the point where i can't make a choice based on my preferences, i need to choose what's more affordable to me and in the long run PC is better
Also Sony better not try to create a launcher on PC because no one will buy anything there. Steam reigns supreme to the point where they can do whatever they want and users won't raise a finger at them. Just accept that 30% of your profit on every sale will go to Gabe Newell and Valve and that you'll lose some sales to piracy especially now with the whole PSN login stuff since you don't want to use DRM
To be honest, a PS4 game that already runs very well on PS5 isn't going to change my mind and make wanna buy a Pro. We're talking about a console that is costing 7K in my country (not including the detachable disc drive). Thing is, most games that are already out will run decently on PS5 Pro (at least they should, in theory). If i were to buy a PS5 Pro, my only interest would be in games that are going to be released in the future, like in 1 or 2 years from now. By 2026, PS5 Pro's CPU will be 6 years old and I'm curious to see if the 10% boost in clock speed will help CPU bound games to run at a stable 60fps, because i presume this console was made to run all future games at a stable 60fps, with resolutions equal or higher than PS5 in Quality Mode, at least until the PS6 is out (in 2027 or 2028), if not, then there's no reason for me to switch over to a Pro.
Now, if a game like Elden Ring or Dragon's Dogma 2 can't hit 60fps in Quality Mode consistently on the Pro (both games are quite demanding on the CPU), i won't be too optimistic about future games that will definitely be heavier on CPU and GPU.
Guess we'll have to wait and see. GTA VI and Crimson Desert are coming next year and both of these games seem very demanding, and since both are open world, they're definitely CPU bound.
I'd like to make it clear that this is only (((my opinion))). I'm aware of people complaining about some users that are criticizing or being skeptical about the Pro...well, if i got one for free, you can bet i wouldn't be saying any of this, but these machines cost a lot of money and i live in a 3rd world country, so it's not that easy to buy things like that. The higher the cost, the more skeptical I'll be because i care about my money lol
I wish they could release some remasters that actually matters, like Infamous 1 and 2 (although most would argue that this won't ever happen because of the PS3's architecture), Killzone trilogy or even PS2 games like Sly, God of War or Ratchet and Clank. Who knows, maybe one day
I'm more pissed about those scam "games" that are appearing on PS Store more frequently now, with clear attempts from these people (i can't call them devs) to trick users into believing that these "games" are the original one, like Lethal Company, Supermarket Simulator, Phasmophobia and etc and people are actually being fooled by them and buying this *****
Hell, I've warned the devs from Empire of the Ants (Microids) on Reddit that their game was been ripped off by these scammers and they said they were going to contact Sony. The scammers were using another name for their "game" (Empire: Ant Kingdom) with the release date of 2025 or 2026. They do this with multiple "games" so that their scam games can be placed ahead of legitimate games made by real developers. A lot of people on reddit already made posts about this but this is getting out of hand. You can clearly spot the Chatgpt text describing these scam games and most of them don't even have images or videos.
This is so bad that it got to a point where even i can't tell if X game is a real game or one of those fake ones because i don't know every game out there
This is something that the community should complain about. Sony should improve their verification process to avoid this kind of crap. I know that shovelware games is a thing on PS Store since forever, but this is happening way more frequently now and i don't see these new stuff as shovelware, they're being presented in a way that they're clearly trying to trick users into believing that their game is the original one or in some cases, they're actually trying to sell the idea of a game that isn't real. They're manipulating PS Store algorithm to place their game in front of the other ones to get people's attention.
I even found a "placeholder game" on PS Store these days, which is crazy. Just search for "Special Mission" on PS Store and you'll see what I'm talking about. And you can search for "Simulator" on PS Store and then watch 1566456677 "games" showing up, half of them being some kind of Supermarket Simulator
No and i won't get one. Ask this question to people in Brazil, where this console is costing a staggering 7K right now lol this is just the console without the detachable disc drive, that is costing 600 bucks (probably more now)
By far one of the most expensive consoles I've ever seen in Brazil
If anything, most people here will probably start buying PS4s (the ones that are left) or even build PCs (although they'll probably be weaker than a base PS5). Besides, the Pro already has a 2020 CPU with only 10% boost. I'm not sure that this will be enough to carry this console until 2027, especially in CPU bound games. Obviously we'll see improvements in performance with recent games, but i believe that in 2 years performance won't be as good as now
@Titntin my logic is that when someone reads a comment that is tagging another user, they probably read the whole interaction before saying anything, so that's why i said what i said and that's why i said i wasn't hating on them too, and now you're aware of that .
Thing is, in Brazil gaming is a very expensive hobby. Today we found out that the PS5 Pro here will cost 7.000 reais, that's almost 7x the minimum wager here. That's a lot of money, like...A LOT. A detachable disc drive is costing around 600 reais. A brand new AAA game costs 350 reais. When i criticize them or any gaming company, i do so with these things in mind. I love my PS5, way more than i expected, but I'm definitely not fond of some stuff Sony is doing.
@Titntin you replied to the only person that had replied to me, and you said to them "No point talking sense mate people here to hate and they aint gonna get off that train anytime soon." assuming that my criticism was me hating on them, even though i wasn't, if you were talking about anyone else (or everyone in general) then you wouldn't have replied to him specifically. I know i don't have to explain anything to you, because I'm allowed to say whatever i think about this situation, but what i don't appreciate is people misinterpreting what I'm saying (gonna give the benefit of the doubt here).
You have your opinion, and i have mine. You can disagree with me, just don't assume what my intentions are if you don't know them. If i was "hating on them" i wouldn't even have a PlayStation in my house. And the fact that some people are being more harsh towards Sony's decision shouldn't affect other Playstation users at all, it's not as if anyone here works at Sony (at least as far as i know). Some won't care about this whole situation, some will criticize, some will criticize more, that's how things are.
@Titntin I'm not hating them, I'm criticizing them. I'm a PlayStation fan when i have to, now I'm being a customer criticizing what i think it's not right, in my opinion. I don't have to like everything they do
@PsBoxSwitchOwner well, you'd still be spending money on the PS4 version anyway and also paying the upgrade, and this is a 1st party game, so they're getting all the profit. They just want more money here. At least they're letting people that got this game for free to upgrade (not my case, i bought the game full price back in 2018)
"Increasing the price like this, especially after almost six years, seems a little harsh." A little? Let's be honest here, game prices are supposed to go down as time goes by, not the other way around. Sony is being greedy here.
I hate when stuff like this happens. It reminds me of Steam and their "regional pricing" thing, that made 5 year old games get a significant price bump here in Brazil. That's when i started buying most PC games on Epic Games (at least the ones that aren't Steam exclusive)
"It’s likely we’re seeing the origins of the PS6 here" this is something that is interesting to me, and that's why I'm pretty much done buying new hardware this generation of console. Gonna wait for the PS6
It's crazy how i went from "i might upgrade my console to this" to "why would i sell my PS5 with disc drive to buy a console without one, which will cost me an additional 600 bucks (i live in Brazil, baby!) + the amount remaining to complete the full price of the Pro (which we still don't know how much will it be in Brazil, but we guess something around 5.500-6.000 bucks which is A LOT)"
I reached a point where i really need to ask myself if the money I'll spend on these things are worth the effort, and to me, personally, it isn't. Same goes for unnecessary Remasters.
@Killionaire @species thank you both for the reply. I'll definitely keep an eye on this game when it's on sale so i can grab it and play it. By then, I'm pretty sure more content will be available, which is even better
@TicklefistCP indeed i am (or we are haha). I'm also glad that Don't Nod released a patch to play this game at 60fps on PS5. They could've just ignore this game and move on, but they didn't and that's very nice of them
Can i play the PvE missions (not the campaign) on my own? I don't have anyone to play with me and if I'm getting this game, i want to do everything it has to offer because damn, this one is very expensive here in Brazil. 350 reais is a lot here and i don't plan on subscribe to PS Plus, but if the game is fun and can be played mostly solo, then I'll definitely think about getting it in the future
I'm actually playing Banishers right now, and I'm over 60h already. I'm really enjoying my time with it. The main characters are very likeable and their relationship really solid. The haunting cases are very interesting, they're all quite different from one another, even if some of them are predictable. I like solving these cases and getting to decide at the end of each one of them if i banish or ascend the ghosts (or do worse with the living). I also like that some of these cases actually connects with the main story, and i like how every now and them (based on a choice that i made) the game points its finger at me to remind me how sh*tty i am
The exploration is pretty much God of Warlite (2018) and the combat is OK, even though it can be quite frustrating at times when you're facing tougher foes. Voice acting is top notch. Most dialogues are really well written. Performance is kinda mid, but this is one of those Unreal Engine 5 games (aka the most unstable engine ever) so i can get past the framerate drops
If the last part of the game is as good as the rest of it and if the story ends on a high note, then this can be easily a 9/10 for me and my personal GOTY contender
It's funny how i hated Life is Strange so much to the point that i consider it top 5 worst games i ever played, and yet Vampyr and this game here, especially, are very very very good
Too bad it didn't sell so well. People need to know about this game more
@Odium thank you for the reply! Yes, I'm usually OK with less than stellar performance. This game isn't that fast, so I'm OK with some framerate drops
@Romans12 yes, Xbox Series X is more powerful than PS5, though the gap between the two isn't that big like it was in the last gen. However, the Xbox doesn't always perform better than PS5, something that DF videos have been showing every now and then. That's why i usually watch DF videos to know more about these games (not that it'll make a big difference for me since i only own a PS5 and i don't plan on buying a Xbox or even a Pro)
@springer17 yeah, i think i could play this one in Quality Mode, since its gameplay is more focused on taking hordes of enemies rather than fast paced combat like Doom Eternal or something. I usually prefer performance, but this is the kind of game where i can see myself trying the other game mode
@Barry_vV yeah, i watched the video there and i was wondering if there were any improvements in performance by now. Doesn't seem to be the case. It's weird since Xbox Series X runs this game a bit better and it and PS5 aren't that different from one another, in terms of hardware power. But i hope they can improve performance, even if it's just a bit
Can anyone tell me how's performance? I'm not that strict with stable 60fps as long as i can still play the game relatively well. Games like FF7 Rebirth, Rise of the Ronin and Banishers Ghosts of New Eden all have framerate drops but i can play all of them fine. If performance in this game is something like this, then I'm OK
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Re: Poll: How Would You Have Reacted to a Live Service God of War Announcement?
I'm just glad Jim Ryan stepped down from Sony's management. Guy didn't know what the ***** he was doing (even though still looks like his substitutes are as clueless as he was)
Re: Rumour: Next State of Play Showcase Set for Next Month
Ah, the guy who said Starfield was coming to PS5 and then retracted his statement
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor's Lingering PS5 Pro Issues Reportedly Fixed
Saw people on Twitter commenting that the flickering was still there, reduced but still present, so i guess they're (EA) at least being honest lol
Re: Game of the Year: #10 - Persona 3 Reload
The game was made in Unreal Engine 4, not 5. Native 4K with Ray Tracing at a quite stable 60fps on PS5 is a huge technical feat. Don't know why Metaphor Refantazio doesn't use this engine instead of that outdated thing that was used back in Persona 5...ugh
Re: Reminder That Horizon Forbidden West Is Simply Stunning on PS5 Pro
@Nyne11Tyme it is lol i just hope PS6 isn't that expensive. And thanks! Have a great holiday you too!!
Re: Reminder That Horizon Forbidden West Is Simply Stunning on PS5 Pro
@Nyne11Tyme in Brazil lol
You can pay 6.500 upfront in some websites, but most people will use credit card and pay in installments, and that's when the price goes up to 7000, and that's not including the disc drive
Re: More Than 6,000 PS5, PS4 Games Discounted in Monstrous PS Store Sale
I was waiting for Persona 3 Reload, but nope...the standard edition isn't on sale. Very disappointing sales for me. Best deal for me are the Timesplitters games. Hell, Robocop is actually more expensive now than it was on the last sale in Brazil lol
At least I'll be saving some good money this time around, as I'll probably buy only 2 Timesplitters games and that's it.
Re: Reminder That Horizon Forbidden West Is Simply Stunning on PS5 Pro
Thank you for the reminder.
Anyways, I'll keep playing my games on my PS5, while waiting for the PS6, because now you made me remind myself that the Pro costs 7K bucks in my country, and that's too much for me and almost everyone living here
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Director Pleads for Modder Restraint on PC
The only mod i ever used while playing Remake on PC was one that tried (unsuccessfully) to fix the stutterfest that the game was, like most UE4 games on PC are. I'm glad that i don't have to go through this kind of headache again on consoles
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Patches in PS5 Pro PSSR Toggle, Lets You Turn It Off
Yep, I'm glad i skipped this console. Its cost and performance/image quality improvements isn't enough to convince me to spend 7K + 800 bucks (for the detachable disc drive) to get one. I just hope that by the time PS6 comes out in 3 years, that it can do PSSR better <<<in every game>>> (and it'll probably will) so i can play PS5 games via BC, just like I'm doing with PS4 games, with better image quality and stable performance without the need to rely on a TV with VRR
Re: Black Myth: Wukong, Elden Ring DLC in The Game Awards' Fan Vote Final
This list is horrible lol
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.2 Announced as CDPR Promises New Features on Fourth Anniversary
Nice! Finally a game update that has nothing to do with the Pro and that might actually add something interesting for me and everyone else. Just don't break the game with this update, CDPR...please, I'm actually in a middle of a playthrough right now and I'm just loving the 3D audio implementation of this game on the PS5. The best 3D audio (alongside Returnal) I've heard so far
Re: Video: 10 Games You Need to Play on PS5 Pro
Nice list. I'll make sure to play these games in their enhanced modes when i get a PS6, when it comes out in the future
Re: Your 2024 PlayStation Wrap-Up Will Be Available Starting Next Week
Last year, my time spending playing on my PS4 was shameful. I think i only played a few hours of God of War Ragnarok and that's it. I was playing too much on PC. This year it's the opposite (thankfully). I'm pretty sure the game i played the most was Elden Ring on my PS5, since i decided to start a whole new save just to play the DLC. My total time with that game today is +450h. And after that, is probably Rebirth and then either Risk of Rain 2 or Banishers
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Thinks the Days of Consoles Are Numbered
I don't need new things on my consoles, i just need an affordable machine that can run games decently, without too much headaches, and consoles can do that just fine, thank you.
Re: PS5 Home Screen Customisable with PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 Themes for the 30th Anniversary
Why not making them permanent? The 30th anniversary will last for a whole year, so let us at least keep the boot up screen and themes for this amount of time...
OR, even better, let everyone that owns a PS5 until now to keep these things forever.
Re: Bloodborne Server Maintenance Scheduled for PlayStation's 30th Anniversary
Nothing's gonna happen
Re: Fans Frustrated with Avatar's Disappointing PS5 Pro Patch
@R_Ryder lol that's actually quite funny and I'm not even being sarcastic
Re: Beloved, Sekiro-Inspired Action Platformer Nine Sols Finally Arrives on PS5, PS4
Definitely gonna pick this up on PS5. I was aware about this game but i didn't want to buy on PC and i haven't used Game Pass anymore since 2022 (i just pay when they put the price at 5 bucks, anything more than that is not worth for me). Great news
Re: Remedy Still Working on Alan Wake 2 PS5 Pro Patch Enhancements
I'm actually enjoying the game a lot on my base PS5, so no complaints on my part
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Pro Is Yet Another Version of a Great Game
"Somewhere in the back of everybody's head is this Fear Of Missing Out. You're not playing it the perfect way for the perfect scene"
lol i never even thought about this, i was too busy enjoying the gameplay and the mood of the game
Re: PS5 Pro Has a Remarkable Impact on Unpatched Games
@LowDefAl yeah, i know what you mean. On PC you can still rely on DLSS or lower resolution and/or other settings to make things run better. I would definitely play something like Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition at 1080p instead of higher resolutions, for example. Now the Pro can run the game decently, but i can't because Capcom doesn't allow me to change resolution (and this version isn't available on PC)
And yes, in Brazil games and consoles are really expensive. I just hope that PS6 won't be as expensive as the Pro. I prefer console over PC, but if they keep doing this I'll have no choice but to get a PC and that's quite unfortunate, since i own +300 games on my PS4 and PS5, digital and physical and i would love to keep playing these games on PS6.
Re: PS5 Pro Has a Remarkable Impact on Unpatched Games
Watching the whole Black Myth Wukong video i get the impression that the framerate drops as much as the base console against bosses in the forest area. The tutorial area is the only place where there's a gap between both versions. They'll need to patch this game with PSSR and remove frame gen, but if the game fails to reach 60fps with PSSR then it's not gonna help a lot
Also, I've watched DF's video and the fact that Alan Wake 2 at this moment runs sometimes a little better in performance mode on base PS5 than on Pro (according to Oliver and footage shown proves that) it's crazy. I'm disappointed that FFXVI still can't reach 60fps on any console too, only on PC. Baldur's Gate 3 performance was pretty much unchanged from base PS5 because of how CPU heavy that game is. This means that any future CPU bound game will make this console struggle.
I was expecting a locked 60fps in all existing games, patched or not (especially not patched, because the console would brute force performance), and future games as well. Games will become more demanding as time goes on, but i can always rely on 30fps when using my PS5, i know the limitations of my console. PS5 Pro should not need that, but I'm not sure if the console will keep up with more demanding games in the future, unless they rely a lot on frame gen technology, if PSSR fails to mantain a stable 60fps. The fact is, for 7K reais (a little over 1K dollars in USA...yes this thing is VERY expensive in Brazil), this upgrade is not worth for me. A PS6 (if isn't that expensive) is the better choice for me, or maybe a PC, who knows.
This is probably the last time I'll talk about the Pro. Obviously, this is MY opinion, I'm not here to argue if someone wants a Pro. I'm just stating my opinion. If you want one, more power to ya, but I'll be skipping this one, just like i did with PS4 Pro.
Re: PS5 Pro vs PS5: Full Tech Specs Comparison
Some people already got their hands on the Pro and they're already posting performance videos on YouTube (with framerate and frametime counter, just like Digital Foundry). Alan Wake 2 (which already got the Pro patch on October 22nd) can't hit a locked 60fps at a internal resolution of 864p (vs the 847p of the base console) when playing as Saga Anderson in Cauldron Lake (the same spot the base PS5 struggled to hit 60fps) and Elden Ring doesn't run at a locked 60fps too, even on Limgrave, so i presume Liurnia of the Lake and the whole DLC area will be worse
Re: PS5 Pro was a '5-Year Project', In Development Before PS5's Launch
Microsoft did this with Series S and X, but they launched both the same day, not 4 years later...
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds' Beta Is Prompting Fans to Reconsider PS5 Pro
lol no
I'm not even interested in this game and even if i was, i wouldn't be buying a new console just to play it (and that's presuming that the Pro will run this game at a stable 60fps at a higher resolution and better graphics)
Re: WUCHANG: Fallen Feathers May Be Another PS5 Soulslike, But At Least It Looks Decent
No, I'm not tired of Soulslikes, but I'm definitely tired of annoying inserted opinions in articles that have nothing to do with reviews, all of them made by the same guy that complains and whine about everything
Re: Love Classic Lara Croft? Play the Crap Tomb Raider Trilogy on PS5, PS4
Great news. Horrible way of announcing these games, since this is supposed to be news articles, not a review. Not the first time I've seen this around here and it's always the same person.
Anyway, I'm glad that IV and Chronicles are getting the same remastered treatment. Chronicles was one of my favorite games alongside 1 and 2 when i was a kid. Never played AoD, this is going to be the first time playing it.
Re: Until Dawn Is One of Sony's Worst Performing PC Ports to Date
I almost forgot that Sony still release games on PS5, then i remembered that they put out Astro Bot this year and soon they'll release... Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (also on PC, of course)
Anyway, i really like playing on my PS5 but what's keeping me on the system is the 3rd party support, BC (which is very good) and just because i prefer consoles over PC since they're easier to plug and play (and PC ports can either be OK or a total garbage that the community has to fix with mods, it's 50/50 chance with every new game release). Having said that, if the PS6 is as expensive as a PS5 Pro here in Brazil (7k reais isn't small amount of money) then I'll go back to PC and never look back. A decent notebook is costing as much as a PS5 Pro here and I'm sure this will not change when the PS6 is out.
Sony is pretty much saying to players "you don't have to buy our consoles anymore, just wait a while and play all of our recently released PS games on PC but cheaper!" so why would i keep buying consoles? No need to.
To be honest it's hard for me to see Sony still releasing consoles in the long run if:
Nintendo probably spends like 1/3 of Sony's budget in their own games since they don't have a very powerful hardware so they don't have to release PC ports to recoup the costs of whatever they spent developing any game and yet they release some stuff on mobile to earn extra money just because they can, while keeping their games exclusives to their consoles. Also they can actually make people see value in their games, to the point where they can even overprice their stuff and people will still buy them and they can only buy them in one place and in one console because exclusivity.
I love playing on consoles but gaming is getting more and more expensive to the point where i can't make a choice based on my preferences, i need to choose what's more affordable to me and in the long run PC is better
Also Sony better not try to create a launcher on PC because no one will buy anything there. Steam reigns supreme to the point where they can do whatever they want and users won't raise a finger at them. Just accept that 30% of your profit on every sale will go to Gabe Newell and Valve and that you'll lose some sales to piracy especially now with the whole PSN login stuff since you don't want to use DRM
Re: PS5 Pro Boost Is Pretty Clear Cut in The Last of Us 2 Remastered Comparison Video
To be honest, a PS4 game that already runs very well on PS5 isn't going to change my mind and make wanna buy a Pro. We're talking about a console that is costing 7K in my country (not including the detachable disc drive). Thing is, most games that are already out will run decently on PS5 Pro (at least they should, in theory). If i were to buy a PS5 Pro, my only interest would be in games that are going to be released in the future, like in 1 or 2 years from now. By 2026, PS5 Pro's CPU will be 6 years old and I'm curious to see if the 10% boost in clock speed will help CPU bound games to run at a stable 60fps, because i presume this console was made to run all future games at a stable 60fps, with resolutions equal or higher than PS5 in Quality Mode, at least until the PS6 is out (in 2027 or 2028), if not, then there's no reason for me to switch over to a Pro.
Now, if a game like Elden Ring or Dragon's Dogma 2 can't hit 60fps in Quality Mode consistently on the Pro (both games are quite demanding on the CPU), i won't be too optimistic about future games that will definitely be heavier on CPU and GPU.
Guess we'll have to wait and see. GTA VI and Crimson Desert are coming next year and both of these games seem very demanding, and since both are open world, they're definitely CPU bound.
I'd like to make it clear that this is only (((my opinion))). I'm aware of people complaining about some users that are criticizing or being skeptical about the Pro...well, if i got one for free, you can bet i wouldn't be saying any of this, but these machines cost a lot of money and i live in a 3rd world country, so it's not that easy to buy things like that. The higher the cost, the more skeptical I'll be because i care about my money lol
Re: Nixxes Dev Refers to Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered as 'First Big PlayStation Content Project'
I wish they could release some remasters that actually matters, like Infamous 1 and 2 (although most would argue that this won't ever happen because of the PS3's architecture), Killzone trilogy or even PS2 games like Sly, God of War or Ratchet and Clank. Who knows, maybe one day
Re: PS5 Pro Will Reportedly Boost PS4 Games, and Reduce PSVR2 Motion Sickness
As far as i know all of my PS4 games that either received a patch to run at 60fps on PS5 or has unlocked framerate are hitting 60fps on my base PS5
Re: PS5 Fans Want to Protest Against New User Interface Advertising
I'm more pissed about those scam "games" that are appearing on PS Store more frequently now, with clear attempts from these people (i can't call them devs) to trick users into believing that these "games" are the original one, like Lethal Company, Supermarket Simulator, Phasmophobia and etc and people are actually being fooled by them and buying this *****
Hell, I've warned the devs from Empire of the Ants (Microids) on Reddit that their game was been ripped off by these scammers and they said they were going to contact Sony. The scammers were using another name for their "game" (Empire: Ant Kingdom) with the release date of 2025 or 2026. They do this with multiple "games" so that their scam games can be placed ahead of legitimate games made by real developers. A lot of people on reddit already made posts about this but this is getting out of hand. You can clearly spot the Chatgpt text describing these scam games and most of them don't even have images or videos.
This is so bad that it got to a point where even i can't tell if X game is a real game or one of those fake ones because i don't know every game out there
This is something that the community should complain about. Sony should improve their verification process to avoid this kind of crap. I know that shovelware games is a thing on PS Store since forever, but this is happening way more frequently now and i don't see these new stuff as shovelware, they're being presented in a way that they're clearly trying to trick users into believing that their game is the original one or in some cases, they're actually trying to sell the idea of a game that isn't real. They're manipulating PS Store algorithm to place their game in front of the other ones to get people's attention.
I even found a "placeholder game" on PS Store these days, which is crazy. Just search for "Special Mission" on PS Store and you'll see what I'm talking about. And you can search for "Simulator" on PS Store and then watch 1566456677 "games" showing up, half of them being some kind of Supermarket Simulator
Re: Fans Appear to Be Coming Around to PS5 Pro
Still in the "nah, I'll skip it" group here
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
No and i won't get one. Ask this question to people in Brazil, where this console is costing a staggering 7K right now lol this is just the console without the detachable disc drive, that is costing 600 bucks (probably more now)
By far one of the most expensive consoles I've ever seen in Brazil
If anything, most people here will probably start buying PS4s (the ones that are left) or even build PCs (although they'll probably be weaker than a base PS5). Besides, the Pro already has a 2020 CPU with only 10% boost. I'm not sure that this will be enough to carry this console until 2027, especially in CPU bound games. Obviously we'll see improvements in performance with recent games, but i believe that in 2 years performance won't be as good as now
My next console will be a PS6 and that's it
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn PS4's Price Doubles After PS5 Remaster Announcement
@Titntin my logic is that when someone reads a comment that is tagging another user, they probably read the whole interaction before saying anything, so that's why i said what i said and that's why i said i wasn't hating on them too, and now you're aware of that .
Thing is, in Brazil gaming is a very expensive hobby. Today we found out that the PS5 Pro here will cost 7.000 reais, that's almost 7x the minimum wager here. That's a lot of money, like...A LOT. A detachable disc drive is costing around 600 reais. A brand new AAA game costs 350 reais. When i criticize them or any gaming company, i do so with these things in mind. I love my PS5, way more than i expected, but I'm definitely not fond of some stuff Sony is doing.
Anyway, thanks for clarifying your point of view
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn PS4's Price Doubles After PS5 Remaster Announcement
@Titntin you replied to the only person that had replied to me, and you said to them "No point talking sense mate people here to hate and they aint gonna get off that train anytime soon." assuming that my criticism was me hating on them, even though i wasn't, if you were talking about anyone else (or everyone in general) then you wouldn't have replied to him specifically. I know i don't have to explain anything to you, because I'm allowed to say whatever i think about this situation, but what i don't appreciate is people misinterpreting what I'm saying (gonna give the benefit of the doubt here).
You have your opinion, and i have mine. You can disagree with me, just don't assume what my intentions are if you don't know them. If i was "hating on them" i wouldn't even have a PlayStation in my house. And the fact that some people are being more harsh towards Sony's decision shouldn't affect other Playstation users at all, it's not as if anyone here works at Sony (at least as far as i know). Some won't care about this whole situation, some will criticize, some will criticize more, that's how things are.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn PS4's Price Doubles After PS5 Remaster Announcement
@Titntin I'm not hating them, I'm criticizing them. I'm a PlayStation fan when i have to, now I'm being a customer criticizing what i think it's not right, in my opinion. I don't have to like everything they do
@PsBoxSwitchOwner well, you'd still be spending money on the PS4 version anyway and also paying the upgrade, and this is a 1st party game, so they're getting all the profit. They just want more money here. At least they're letting people that got this game for free to upgrade (not my case, i bought the game full price back in 2018)
@Intr1n5ic that's also a very good point
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn PS4's Price Doubles After PS5 Remaster Announcement
"Increasing the price like this, especially after almost six years, seems a little harsh." A little? Let's be honest here, game prices are supposed to go down as time goes by, not the other way around. Sony is being greedy here.
I hate when stuff like this happens. It reminds me of Steam and their "regional pricing" thing, that made 5 year old games get a significant price bump here in Brazil. That's when i started buying most PC games on Epic Games (at least the ones that aren't Steam exclusive)
Re: 'PS5 Pro Is a Really Good Investment,' Argue Tech Experts After Hands-On
"It’s likely we’re seeing the origins of the PS6 here" this is something that is interesting to me, and that's why I'm pretty much done buying new hardware this generation of console. Gonna wait for the PS6
Re: PS5 Pro Will Supposedly Fix Rise of the Ronin's Shoddy Frame Rate
I'll gladly buy a PS6 to play this game at a decent framerate, for sure, but not a PS5 Pro
Re: PS5 Pro Flexes Its Muscle in Montage Trailer
It's crazy how i went from "i might upgrade my console to this" to "why would i sell my PS5 with disc drive to buy a console without one, which will cost me an additional 600 bucks (i live in Brazil, baby!) + the amount remaining to complete the full price of the Pro (which we still don't know how much will it be in Brazil, but we guess something around 5.500-6.000 bucks which is A LOT)"
I reached a point where i really need to ask myself if the money I'll spend on these things are worth the effort, and to me, personally, it isn't. Same goes for unnecessary Remasters.
Re: Superb Strategy RPG Unicorn Overlord Tops 1 Million Sales
This is on my wishlist and I'll definitely gonna play it. I own most of their games on my PS4/PS5 and they never miss the mark. I'm happy for them!
Re: Sequel, DLC Already Planned for Smash-Hit Space Marine 2
@Killionaire @species thank you both for the reply. I'll definitely keep an eye on this game when it's on sale so i can grab it and play it. By then, I'm pretty sure more content will be available, which is even better
Re: Don't Nod 'Disappointed' by Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden, Jusant Sales
@TicklefistCP indeed i am (or we are haha). I'm also glad that Don't Nod released a patch to play this game at 60fps on PS5. They could've just ignore this game and move on, but they didn't and that's very nice of them
Re: Sequel, DLC Already Planned for Smash-Hit Space Marine 2
Can i play the PvE missions (not the campaign) on my own? I don't have anyone to play with me and if I'm getting this game, i want to do everything it has to offer because damn, this one is very expensive here in Brazil. 350 reais is a lot here and i don't plan on subscribe to PS Plus, but if the game is fun and can be played mostly solo, then I'll definitely think about getting it in the future
Re: Don't Nod 'Disappointed' by Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden, Jusant Sales
I'm actually playing Banishers right now, and I'm over 60h already. I'm really enjoying my time with it. The main characters are very likeable and their relationship really solid. The haunting cases are very interesting, they're all quite different from one another, even if some of them are predictable. I like solving these cases and getting to decide at the end of each one of them if i banish or ascend the ghosts (or do worse with the living). I also like that some of these cases actually connects with the main story, and i like how every now and them (based on a choice that i made) the game points its finger at me to remind me how sh*tty i am
The exploration is pretty much God of Warlite (2018) and the combat is OK, even though it can be quite frustrating at times when you're facing tougher foes. Voice acting is top notch. Most dialogues are really well written. Performance is kinda mid, but this is one of those Unreal Engine 5 games (aka the most unstable engine ever) so i can get past the framerate drops
If the last part of the game is as good as the rest of it and if the story ends on a high note, then this can be easily a 9/10 for me and my personal GOTY contender
It's funny how i hated Life is Strange so much to the point that i consider it top 5 worst games i ever played, and yet Vampyr and this game here, especially, are very very very good
Too bad it didn't sell so well. People need to know about this game more
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2?
@Odium thank you for the reply! Yes, I'm usually OK with less than stellar performance. This game isn't that fast, so I'm OK with some framerate drops
@Romans12 yes, Xbox Series X is more powerful than PS5, though the gap between the two isn't that big like it was in the last gen. However, the Xbox doesn't always perform better than PS5, something that DF videos have been showing every now and then. That's why i usually watch DF videos to know more about these games (not that it'll make a big difference for me since i only own a PS5 and i don't plan on buying a Xbox or even a Pro)
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2?
@springer17 yeah, i think i could play this one in Quality Mode, since its gameplay is more focused on taking hordes of enemies rather than fast paced combat like Doom Eternal or something. I usually prefer performance, but this is the kind of game where i can see myself trying the other game mode
@Barry_vV yeah, i watched the video there and i was wondering if there were any improvements in performance by now. Doesn't seem to be the case. It's weird since Xbox Series X runs this game a bit better and it and PS5 aren't that different from one another, in terms of hardware power. But i hope they can improve performance, even if it's just a bit
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2?
Can anyone tell me how's performance? I'm not that strict with stable 60fps as long as i can still play the game relatively well. Games like FF7 Rebirth, Rise of the Ronin and Banishers Ghosts of New Eden all have framerate drops but i can play all of them fine. If performance in this game is something like this, then I'm OK