So many people complaining about something they're not even interested in buying 🙄
And no reports on the many people who have bought one. I don't know how articles like this are helpful. Everything is anecdotal and all is concentrated on people who are unhappy, many of whom are unhappy on behalf of others.
Sony may deserve criticism, but so do consumers for not doing their research before they buy a premium product, and so far there is none. I own a Pro, I knew disk drives were scarce before I bought it, they were sold out before the Pro was released, I'm not crying about it and playing the blame game.
@themightyant i think Sony are mad to try to rejoin the handheld market for a native device when the Portal does well and is cheap.
If Sony do, I really hope they get creative with it like Nintendo are with their handheld and don't just make a tiny PS5. I'd like it if they'd reinstate a media player on the console, so do that first Sony. Then make the handheld discoverable and usable as a streaming device so I can use my TV apps on it on other TVs
@Haruki_NLI does it matter? You think the cost of doing that is more than what Sony paid for the promotion? Either way commuters profit as the seats needed doing.
@DennisReynolds I'm truly sorry to hear about your father. My father also died of cancer two years ago, I empathise with you Dennis. None of this matters, I don't want to go on about it anymore. I wish you well, and my deepest regrets for your Dad passing.
@DennisReynolds I didn't say I thought she was still sweet and innocent by the end of the game, I said the signs were not there that she would turn into a deranged murdering psycho.
And Joel was an ordinary man before the outbreak. He didn't turn into a survivalist capable of killing because Stephanie died, he did that because he had to: kill or be killed. To his credit, he didn't revel in it and didn't let the inhumanity of a post-apocaltytic world turn him into a monster. He still knew right from wrong and it still haunted him when doing wrong is the right thing to do to survive.
That's what made Ellie special. She wasn't tainted by that mindset in the first game. And by the end of part 1, Joel's betrayal of her wishes was not the prelude to her transforming into a nutcase hellbent on murder and revenge. She was angry and resentful, as expected, but there was no correlation or causation to what she became once Joel was killed. I found it contrived and ridiculous in part 2 that Ellie still felt that way against Joel so many years after it happened and treated him poorly like an entitled brat. She wasn't that petty and heartless. For her to hold a grudge for years felt artificial.
Ellie changing into a crazed murderess happened in due course as part of TLoU2. And I really disliked it for the reasons I said previously. ND deciding to split the fanbase so they could pat themselves on the back for being so clever.
I also said in my conversation to others that my view is not definitive or correct by default and that if others like TLoU2 I'm not here to tell them they're wrong to. Such a shame you can't do the same.
We could discuss our thoughts on the story in civilised fashion if you prefer. Be nice to exchange views without condescension from you.
@DennisReynolds If you think by the end of part 1 Ellie's character had changed from sweet, caring and uncorrupted to homicidal, psychotic, relentless psycopath capable of murdering even pregnant women, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. If I'm a fragile boy for not liking the second game then by your logic you're an evil, blood-drinking, horned, devil worshiping, clown-faced, Antony Faucci for liking it 😄
This is an impossible question. So many great memories and so many new experiences that the era of Saturn and Playstation ushered in.
Because it far too hard to pick a game purely for its excellence at the time, I have to go with the first two games I ever bought on this console which demonstrated in different ways the massive impact Sony was going to have on the games industry; Wipeout and Tekken.
Wipeout because firstly it's an excellent game played at breakneck speeds. It did something never done before, made gaming cool in the mainstream to a non-gaming audience thanks to Sony's genius move bringing it to the club culture with its soundtrack.
Tekken because it was a technical and visual showpiece that never failed to impress mates who'd come round to see what the fuss was about my new console.
@get2sammyb I'm trying to wrap my head around why Sony would bother when the Vita did so poorly and the Portal is doing well. Looks to me they've found the sweet spot already.
Why is £400 expensive for a gaming device like Steam Deck? What do you think you should pay for it, £100? It's slightly more than a Switch Oled. It's so tiresome. I'd definelty be up for a Sony handheld
@Matroska I don't allow that as an excuse. Journalists are meant to be professional writers, so if I can tell the difference, they certainly should be able to.
I guess it's like any industry, you have the cowboys at the bottom, then the standard, entry-level, know the bare minimum, then the experts and then the masters. If you're constantly mixing Americanisms with English you're at level 2 of that scale and unlikely to go higher.
@themightyant if I weren't alive when demos were free to access and play on consoles and when demo tapes were stuck to magazine covers, I'd look at this 'service' Sony may or may not have negotiated more favourably.
It's weird, mot to mention redundant to read an article about this game winning the award when you've already announced it on a previous article. You lot need to communicate better 😁
@ChingChengHanji we already got a game about what would happen after an apocalypse with the first game, that included all you mentioned. We've had loads of games like that.
I can't think of any other sequel to a hugely popular game or film that went out of its way to make much of the fanbase hate it. And all in the name of brave risk-taking? No, it wasn't brave, it's hubris of the highest order. It's exactly the way Disney and Marvel have been acting the last few years, not giving fans what they want, but feeding them crap because they got high on the smell of their farts and think they're more important than the fans.
But, you like it so I'm glad about that. My view is my own, it may be shared by a lot of people but that doesn't make it right by default. I'm heavily biased by how wonderful the story was in the first game that didn't rely on stupid character decisions, a contrived plot and a relentlessly negative experience to deliver a game.
I guarantee you that if TLoU2 were the first game it would've sold far less and would not have a TV show made because of it. It's inferior in every way.
"PS5 Pro allows us to make an emotional journey rather than a technical one"
Talking rubbish. ND went out of their way to make TLoU2 an emotional journey by ruining Ellie and Joel for the sake of making the game entirely based on cheap, senseless emotions.
@MeanBeanEgg so saying 'woke' means you're part of a 'war'. Don't you see how ridiculous that sounds. And there's no way you've read all the reviews to know 'most' were to do with wokeness. Once again, you're perpetuating a narrative to suit a position you want to believe. And even if I agreed with you, why is having a different opinion about woke being good or bad a 'war' in the first place? Don't you see how you're feeding into the ***** around all of it?
@MeanBeanEgg and that constitutes a culture war 🙄 I guess Elder Scrolls is part of the culture war. And Titan Souls. And Skyrim. And Star Wars: Battlefront 2. And......
@MeanBeanEgg gaslight? You're really filling up the buzzword bingo card. Fine, keep bringing up culture wars whenever you don't agree with people's outlook on a game just because you saw a couple of comments that made you feel that way, it's your right.
I pay a lot of money for PS Premium. I don't consider it a bit of luck that I can play a demo of this game. In fact, I think putting demos behind a paywall is one of the stupidest moves Sony has ever made.
@MeanBeanEgg you are part of the culture war because you actually think TLoU2 is part of some 'war' that doesn't exist beyond the minds of ideologues on both sides. Don't fall for that narrative. Remember, the internet is NOT representative of anything, people are far more prone to complain than they are to praise, and fans like me who loved TLoU but hated what happened with 2 aren't part of some stupid invented war.
All award shows are meaningless and often corrupted. I realised that after last year's Miss Netherlands. Persona 3 is a good game, but I wouldn't pick a remake as the outright GOTY.
@TheDarkSide looking up a skirt is a timed-honoured tradition. Why else would there be such a huge opening? You look up my skirt all you want. As a Scotsman, which i may or may not be, I insist.
@MeanBeanEgg you directly attributed people not liking TLoU2 to some culture war, so you were talking about me even if you were generalising. That's the thing with throwing out generalisations willy nilly as if it's the sole reason, you end up including a majority of people who don't fit into such a reductive narrative.
@ChimpMasta totally agree. People trying to make it part of a 'culture war', I really don't get how they can be so easily influenced. A bad story is a bad story. If they like it, that's fine, I don't point at some existential crisis as the only reason why they like it, though I disagree strongly.
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Re: Tencent Acquires Controlling Stake in Dev of PS5's Wuthering Waves
@Jrs1 that means you care. Do you mean you couldn't care less?
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for December 2024?
That's as bad a month as I've seen this gen.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 557
I'm playing Stellar Blade and getting jiggley with it!
Re: PS5 Disc Drive Stock Still a Source of Intense Irritation for Many
@themightyant HUKD is dangerous! I spend too much money because of that app 😊
Re: PS5 Disc Drive Stock Still a Source of Intense Irritation for Many
So many people complaining about something they're not even interested in buying 🙄
And no reports on the many people who have bought one. I don't know how articles like this are helpful. Everything is anecdotal and all is concentrated on people who are unhappy, many of whom are unhappy on behalf of others.
Sony may deserve criticism, but so do consumers for not doing their research before they buy a premium product, and so far there is none. I own a Pro, I knew disk drives were scarce before I bought it, they were sold out before the Pro was released, I'm not crying about it and playing the blame game.
Re: Naughty Dog's Supposed New IP Timeless Travel Seemingly a Fake
@Mr_B021 TLoU3, Ellie sees a double rainbow and starts crying for 30 hours, then the game ends. Better than 2 at least.
Re: Naughty Dog's Supposed New IP Timeless Travel Seemingly a Fake
@Shepherd_Tallon yes, in this article, and some bloke somewhere.
Re: Naughty Dog's New IP Could Be Called Timeless Travel
So, it's a game about photons
Re: 74% of PS5 Fans Would Be Interested in a Handheld
@Pat_trick 240 quid on a phone plus a contract?! What's wrong with sending letters third class via bulk mail? 😁
Re: 74% of PS5 Fans Would Be Interested in a Handheld
@themightyant i think Sony are mad to try to rejoin the handheld market for a native device when the Portal does well and is cheap.
If Sony do, I really hope they get creative with it like Nintendo are with their handheld and don't just make a tiny PS5. I'd like it if they'd reinstate a media player on the console, so do that first Sony. Then make the handheld discoverable and usable as a streaming device so I can use my TV apps on it on other TVs
Re: 74% of PS5 Fans Would Be Interested in a Handheld
@Pat_trick I hope you didn't type that on your £1000 iPhone/expensive contract! 😄
Re: 74% of PS5 Fans Would Be Interested in a Handheld
Removed; user is banned
Re: Sony Is Going All Out for PlayStation's 30th Anniversary in the UK
@Haruki_NLI does it matter? You think the cost of doing that is more than what Sony paid for the promotion? Either way commuters profit as the seats needed doing.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 30
4/10 but the 6 I got wrong were because I needed a wee
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Pro Is Yet Another Version of a Great Game
@DennisReynolds I'm truly sorry to hear about your father. My father also died of cancer two years ago, I empathise with you Dennis. None of this matters, I don't want to go on about it anymore. I wish you well, and my deepest regrets for your Dad passing.
Re: PlayStation Preservation Expert Has Safely Stored Over Half a Petabyte of Sony's Gaming History
Half a petabyte sounds like a lot but it's roughly the same space a Call of Duty game takes up on my hard drive if I download everything.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Pro Is Yet Another Version of a Great Game
@DennisReynolds I didn't say I thought she was still sweet and innocent by the end of the game, I said the signs were not there that she would turn into a deranged murdering psycho.
And Joel was an ordinary man before the outbreak. He didn't turn into a survivalist capable of killing because Stephanie died, he did that because he had to: kill or be killed. To his credit, he didn't revel in it and didn't let the inhumanity of a post-apocaltytic world turn him into a monster. He still knew right from wrong and it still haunted him when doing wrong is the right thing to do to survive.
That's what made Ellie special. She wasn't tainted by that mindset in the first game. And by the end of part 1, Joel's betrayal of her wishes was not the prelude to her transforming into a nutcase hellbent on murder and revenge. She was angry and resentful, as expected, but there was no correlation or causation to what she became once Joel was killed. I found it contrived and ridiculous in part 2 that Ellie still felt that way against Joel so many years after it happened and treated him poorly like an entitled brat. She wasn't that petty and heartless. For her to hold a grudge for years felt artificial.
Ellie changing into a crazed murderess happened in due course as part of TLoU2. And I really disliked it for the reasons I said previously. ND deciding to split the fanbase so they could pat themselves on the back for being so clever.
I also said in my conversation to others that my view is not definitive or correct by default and that if others like TLoU2 I'm not here to tell them they're wrong to. Such a shame you can't do the same.
We could discuss our thoughts on the story in civilised fashion if you prefer. Be nice to exchange views without condescension from you.
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban Won't Include PSN After All
@KillerBoy Me Tarzan. You Jane.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Pro Is Yet Another Version of a Great Game
@DennisReynolds If you think by the end of part 1 Ellie's character had changed from sweet, caring and uncorrupted to homicidal, psychotic, relentless psycopath capable of murdering even pregnant women, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. If I'm a fragile boy for not liking the second game then by your logic you're an evil, blood-drinking, horned, devil worshiping, clown-faced, Antony Faucci for liking it 😄
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation?
@PCPS4XB with a hard drive? Right, now I get it 🤦
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite PS1 Games
This is an impossible question. So many great memories and so many new experiences that the era of Saturn and Playstation ushered in.
Because it far too hard to pick a game purely for its excellence at the time, I have to go with the first two games I ever bought on this console which demonstrated in different ways the massive impact Sony was going to have on the games industry; Wipeout and Tekken.
Wipeout because firstly it's an excellent game played at breakneck speeds. It did something never done before, made gaming cool in the mainstream to a non-gaming audience thanks to Sony's genius move bringing it to the club culture with its soundtrack.
Tekken because it was a technical and visual showpiece that never failed to impress mates who'd come round to see what the fuss was about my new console.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation?
@get2sammyb if that were to happen, I'd expect some kind of symbiotic handheld/console device like the Switch.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation?
@get2sammyb I'm trying to wrap my head around why Sony would bother when the Vita did so poorly and the Portal is doing well. Looks to me they've found the sweet spot already.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation?
@get2sammyb that's the Portal, surely. How does anyone expect to do that without internet connection?
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation?
@charbtronic I guess it depends in the country you live in. I can do all that in the UK.
If you want to be able to play your library, I don't know how you'd do it without internet.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation?
@charbtronic you've described the Portal.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation?
Why is £400 expensive for a gaming device like Steam Deck? What do you think you should pay for it, £100? It's slightly more than a Switch Oled. It's so tiresome. I'd definelty be up for a Sony handheld
Re: Oct 2024 USA Sales: PS5, PS4 Account for 82% of Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Sales in the US
I'd like to play Unisputed just to find out what it is.
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban Won't Include PSN After All
@Matroska
I don't allow that as an excuse. Journalists are meant to be professional writers, so if I can tell the difference, they certainly should be able to.
I guess it's like any industry, you have the cowboys at the bottom, then the standard, entry-level, know the bare minimum, then the experts and then the masters. If you're constantly mixing Americanisms with English you're at level 2 of that scale and unlikely to go higher.
Re: GOTY Nominee Black Myth: Wukong Bags PS Plus Premium Demo
@themightyant those tapes were free. That sticky tape wasn't the best security measure 😁
Are some demos free? I've had PSPlus since day one so I don't know what is and isn't behind the payroll exactly. I thought it all is.
Re: GOTY Nominee Black Myth: Wukong Bags PS Plus Premium Demo
@themightyant if I weren't alive when demos were free to access and play on consoles and when demo tapes were stuck to magazine covers, I'd look at this 'service' Sony may or may not have negotiated more favourably.
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban Won't Include PSN After All
@Matroska unfortunately they all write in American English even though they were taught correct spellings at school.
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban Won't Include PSN After All
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Re: Black Myth: Wukong Declared Ultimate Game of the Year at the Golden Joystick Awards 2024
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare the other award article
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Declared Ultimate Game of the Year at the Golden Joystick Awards 2024
It's weird, mot to mention redundant to read an article about this game winning the award when you've already announced it on a previous article. You lot need to communicate better 😁
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban Won't Include PSN After All
Don't worry, Kier Starmer is already convicting people for thought crime in the UK. 1984 is here if we didn't already know it.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Pro Is Yet Another Version of a Great Game
@ChingChengHanji we already got a game about what would happen after an apocalypse with the first game, that included all you mentioned. We've had loads of games like that.
I can't think of any other sequel to a hugely popular game or film that went out of its way to make much of the fanbase hate it. And all in the name of brave risk-taking? No, it wasn't brave, it's hubris of the highest order. It's exactly the way Disney and Marvel have been acting the last few years, not giving fans what they want, but feeding them crap because they got high on the smell of their farts and think they're more important than the fans.
But, you like it so I'm glad about that. My view is my own, it may be shared by a lot of people but that doesn't make it right by default. I'm heavily biased by how wonderful the story was in the first game that didn't rely on stupid character decisions, a contrived plot and a relentlessly negative experience to deliver a game.
I guarantee you that if TLoU2 were the first game it would've sold far less and would not have a TV show made because of it. It's inferior in every way.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Pro Is Yet Another Version of a Great Game
"PS5 Pro allows us to make an emotional journey rather than a technical one"
Talking rubbish. ND went out of their way to make TLoU2 an emotional journey by ruining Ellie and Joel for the sake of making the game entirely based on cheap, senseless emotions.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard's European Launch Sales Fall Short of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@MeanBeanEgg so saying 'woke' means you're part of a 'war'. Don't you see how ridiculous that sounds. And there's no way you've read all the reviews to know 'most' were to do with wokeness. Once again, you're perpetuating a narrative to suit a position you want to believe. And even if I agreed with you, why is having a different opinion about woke being good or bad a 'war' in the first place? Don't you see how you're feeding into the ***** around all of it?
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard's European Launch Sales Fall Short of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@MeanBeanEgg and that constitutes a culture war 🙄 I guess Elder Scrolls is part of the culture war. And Titan Souls. And Skyrim. And Star Wars: Battlefront 2. And......
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard's European Launch Sales Fall Short of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@MeanBeanEgg gaslight? You're really filling up the buzzword bingo card. Fine, keep bringing up culture wars whenever you don't agree with people's outlook on a game just because you saw a couple of comments that made you feel that way, it's your right.
Re: GOTY Nominee Black Myth: Wukong Bags PS Plus Premium Demo
I pay a lot of money for PS Premium. I don't consider it a bit of luck that I can play a demo of this game. In fact, I think putting demos behind a paywall is one of the stupidest moves Sony has ever made.
Re: Stellar Blade's Eve Will Attack You if You Act Inappropriately in New PS5 DLC
@Northern_munkey it's made of acrylic so it wipes clean 😄
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard's European Launch Sales Fall Short of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@MeanBeanEgg you are part of the culture war because you actually think TLoU2 is part of some 'war' that doesn't exist beyond the minds of ideologues on both sides. Don't fall for that narrative. Remember, the internet is NOT representative of anything, people are far more prone to complain than they are to praise, and fans like me who loved TLoU but hated what happened with 2 aren't part of some stupid invented war.
Re: Opinion: The Game Awards' Persona 3 Reload Disrespect Is Crazy
All award shows are meaningless and often corrupted. I realised that after last year's Miss Netherlands. Persona 3 is a good game, but I wouldn't pick a remake as the outright GOTY.
Re: Stellar Blade's Eve Will Attack You if You Act Inappropriately in New PS5 DLC
@Northern_munkey what if I wear my favourite skirt for you?
Re: Stellar Blade's Eve Will Attack You if You Act Inappropriately in New PS5 DLC
@TheDarkSide looking up a skirt is a timed-honoured tradition. Why else would there be such a huge opening? You look up my skirt all you want. As a Scotsman, which i may or may not be, I insist.
Re: Stellar Blade's Eve Will Attack You if You Act Inappropriately in New PS5 DLC
@ArashiKageTaro what's a real woman? Nobody knows anymore. Am I a real woman if I say I am? Love me, if you like.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard's European Launch Sales Fall Short of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@MeanBeanEgg you directly attributed people not liking TLoU2 to some culture war, so you were talking about me even if you were generalising. That's the thing with throwing out generalisations willy nilly as if it's the sole reason, you end up including a majority of people who don't fit into such a reductive narrative.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard's European Launch Sales Fall Short of Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@ChimpMasta totally agree. People trying to make it part of a 'culture war', I really don't get how they can be so easily influenced. A bad story is a bad story. If they like it, that's fine, I don't point at some existential crisis as the only reason why they like it, though I disagree strongly.