@Titntin I agree the media is very biased. But the loyal hardcore PlayStation fanboys are more who I was referring to. You see them on YouTube like PRock77, Xvault etc. You occasionally see them on here & Pure Xbox also. I agree it is a big deal the shift from both Xbox plus PlayStation to be a platform & 3rd party publisher. I did see the figures & wasn't really surprised that Sea of Thieves was the best sold. Newer titles will more likely sell better. So it will be interesting what Microsoft does with that data. So is it big titles like Gears of War, Fable, Forza, Halo with Bethesda & Activision Blizzard. Does that mean Avowed & South of Midnight get ported. Again many unknowns.
@Grumblevolcano if the Last of Us double pack is announced for Switch 2 along with the PS5 & PC editions. The meltdown will be to epic proportions. Some fanboys haven't yet recovered from Playstation being at the last Switch Direct.
@naruball that's my point though. As a large portion of the Playstation community never had any intention to own an Xbox. So make excuses like the multiplatform release or had no games in the first place. Now it's a constant debate to which game is heading to Playstation on a daily basis.
It's funny how some are now using that Xbox going multiplatform as an excuse. Or Xbox had no games as a reason for never owning an Xbox. Then say id buy Halo, Gears of War, Fable, Forza 😆😆😆. Some of those games have been on Xbox for 20 years.
@Fiendish-Beaver to be fair look at the price of the PS5 Pro. Console aren't getting cheaper either. Plus the latest 2025 Steam hardware survey shows the bulk of gamers still use mid to low end hardware. So their is a market to be had if they can hit the sweet spot in price with a relatively descent spec. Microsoft's new philosophy of putting the games where the gamer is. Will bring in more money in the long run even if the bulk is 70%. I'm pretty sure the hybrid Xbox will be all digital. Hence opening of the eco system to rivals to avoid similar problems Amazon, Apple, Google & even Microsoft themselves have had with the EU's Digital Markets Act. Microsoft is looking at releasing a mobile store. They will soon allow purchased games via the Xbox & Windows store to be playable from the cloud on any online & Bluetooth device. So they'd get high revenue streams from those users. Which could off set revenue loss from rival stores on Xbox hardware. I also asked people I know. If Xbox put Steam on the platform would they use it? Most weren't interested if it was an optional download. These were mostly younger people. A handful of people my age in their 40's said they'd definitely use it. Others said it depends what's already on the box when purchased. So I got a mixed result from those who I asked.
@Fiendish-Beaver I agree. Playstation making the disc drive modular was pure genius. 3rd party disc drive could be a possibility for the next Xbox or OEM.
@Fiendish-Beaver there is more to it though. As if the next Xbox is an all digital system. They will be under the same scrutiny as Apple & Google have recently fallen fowl to under the Digital Markets Act in the EU. Even Sony has had a few lawsuits over pricing & not selling game cards outside of its Playstation store.
@Fiendish-Beaver why is it so hard to believe that the next Xbox could have Steam. Making the Xbox OS open & fully licensed to OEMs could do to gaming what Android did to mobile.
@get2sammyb but your not looking at the full picture. If Xbox opens its next gen console to allow Steam & Epic stores. Then the console has their exclusives & any deals Microsoft make for the Xbox store as they'd be competing for your money. Their is nothing stopping Sony making an app store either. More competition leads to better pricing. Plus id bet Xbox games would be available on all stores anyway. Add Games Pass, Play anywhere etc. So id suspect Microsoft would still make money off of software. Plus Microsoft talked about 3rd party consoles. So what's stopping Microsoft from partnering with Valve & others to keep costs down on hardware. They'd also be able to license it to other manufacturers.
@get2sammyb you mention toxic fanboy behavior!!! But then reply to someone saying that the Switch 2 that hasn't released yet will be a better place for Sony to port older games than Xbox Series consoles which is available today & has an install base to sell to. That is a typical fanboy response!!! It's also the attitude that has landed gaming in the trouble it's in. As I bet you wrote it as it's the general narrative surrounding Xbox. I could see Helldivers 2, Spiderman & others sell well on Xbox as much as it would on the Nintendo Switch 2. Just like I see that Xbox games will sell well on PlayStation.
Man that sucks. I was looking forward to hearing more about the Horizon MMO. As if done well it could have been to Sony what Final Fantasy 14 is to Square Enix. A good money maker.
@breakneck Sea of Thieves may be live service title but it had no content when it released other than exploring & didn't review well. if it wasn't for Games Pass it probably be lucky if it would have lasted more than a year.
@vyseofhr I liked the Sega Saturn's start up 👍. But the original Playstation one when I booted my PS5 to play Tower of Aghasba today brings back some good memories.
@Matroska Microsoft said they went after ABK for King. To get a foothold in the mobile market. If they get the Xbox app store running & it's successful on IOS & Android. Then it's money well spent as mobile is the bigger prize.
@get2sammyb they already tweeted that 50% of all US Xbox users were playing COD. Plus this is the first COD since the 360 days that more are playing on Xbox than PlayStation. So it's a W.
@truerbluer Sony could be making money from licensing the Decima engine. This could be a field test. They have a great engine which for current gen consoles runs better than Unreal 5. Could be a gold mine.
@Medic_alert I don't see Microsoft loosing money on Black OPs 6 being on Games Pass. As There is different ways for them to make money while it's on the service. The £30 vault bundle, micro transactions etc. Plus there is nothing stopping them buying it after a few months or later when heavily reduced.
I don't get how people think the Xbox market isn't big enough for Helldiver's 2. When Sea of Thieves has been on the go since 2018. Other GaaS games do well also on the platform.
@Flaming_Kaiser I wouldn't just blame subscription services for poor sales. There is many reasons. AAA gaming is getting stagnant in many genres. I have had more fun & feel I get better value playing indies lately. Another is the cost. £70 is a big no to some. I'll pay it but even Im getting to the point that I have to pick wisely which games I buy as It couldn't afford every game I would like.
Nadella statement goes live on the release of Call of Duty Black OPs 6 on multiple platforms & his statement mentions cloud gaming which next month will allow paid games from the Xbox store to be playable on any device with a screen, WiFi, Bluetooth & a web browser. They also have a mobile store releasing next month on Android/IOS. So the rumor that Microsoft learned from Indiana Jones announcement could still be true. But it's Microsoft. Anything is possible.
@PuppetMaster Sony purchased Psygnosis back in 1993 which was one of the biggest European publishers at the time. They dominated the EU/US market in 1996 with Psygnosis titles. Microsoft bought Bethesda to stop Sony bagging Starfield & other titles as timed exclusives after Deathloop & Ghostwire Tokyo. As for ABK that was for mobile & PC market gains. Sony did the same when Microsoft was competitive with the Xbox 360 running into the Xbox One era. They bought up studios as that's all they could afford I guess. Like I said before if Sony could afford to buy more they would. Microsoft playing dirty is no different than Sony back in the early PlayStation days. Peter Moore said when he was head of Sega that Sony would revoke stock if PlayStation didn't get more floor space than the competition. So there all as bad as each other. As they all used there market dominance at one point.
@Zeke68 all those games are great ideas & sure would sell a ton. Well maybe after the success of Elden Ring & now Black Myth:Wu Kong. Sony will look at Bloodborne 2
@AdamNovice I don't understand either why people think that PlayStation can't be successful at both single player & multiplayer games. A wide variety of games helps make PlayStation & it's hardware a success in the future. People expected Helldiver's 2 to fail also but was a hit. I don't get PlayStation fanboys!!!!. They hate on PlayStation multiplatform strategy. But Sony explains it needs the money from multiplayer to make great single player titles but fans complain & want them to fail. This could drive Sony into adopting a similar strategy as Microsoft. Big games like Spiderman 3 & Wolverine could become fully 3rd party just to claw back the money they've lost from the disaster I call the Jim Ryan era.
@Flaming_Kaiser I like to buy games myself as well. Games Pass like PlayStation Plus is a useful tool I use to try games I usually wouldn't buy & Microsoft 1st party titles. I also use the money I save to buy other 3rd party games. But there are some games I wouldn't touch in a subscription service like RPGs. Yes I agree that a part of the Xbox fanbase just rely on Games Pass. But think Sony has the same problem with Playstation Plus & to a certain degree a large casual audience that only buys COD & EA Soccer every year.
@get2sammyb it makes sense. Sony has invested a lot in China. They have there hero project & announced at the end of last year they wanted to heavily invest in entertainment. They have had exclusive deals with publishers like MiHoYo. So Sony see's it as a key market for growth. Problem is Microsoft buying ABK gave Xbox a foothold in China. As Blizzard games are hugely popular. So I could see why Sony might want to keep it off of Xbox.
Microsoft isn't gonna buy advertising rites to a game just to burn money. It obviously see's an advantage to owning it. Just like Phil Spencer turning up to FF14 expo in New Vegas was for fun also I guess. Xbox users asked for more JRPGs
You also act like PlayStation gets every JRPG. In Japan Switch is king. Even Sony has had it rough. I never said that Xbox will ever be the best place to buy JRPGs. I've got a Switch & PS5 for that. All I said is they must be selling as we seem to be getting more Asian/JRPGs than ever before. Even Genshin Impact is coming in November.
This year alone I've purchased on my xbox Persona 3 Reload Unicorn Overlord Sand Land Dragons Dogma 2 Final Fantasy 14 & Dawntrail Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance Octopath Traveler 2 Visions of Mana
You asked for 4 Future Xbox titles. Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE Plus SWORD ART ONLINE Fractured Daydream Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D Fantasian Neo Dimension Suikoden I&II HD Remaster Blue Protocol Lost Helleden Monster Hunter: Wild
@QiaraIris well the guy I responded to mentioned both RPG/JRPG 😅😅😅. So who is moving the goalposts. So why is Xbox getting more JRPGs if they don't sell? You'd think it be the opposite.
@Dragon83 utter *****. RPGs have done well on Xbox. As for JRPGs not being successful on the platform. That's more on the Japanese developers lack of interest in the platform. But that has gradually changed & there is more now than ever on Xbox.
@PuppetMaster I was answering a question. So no I didn't forget about those. But your missing my point.
To answer yours first. What did Sony do when Microsoft started playing them at there own game during the 360 era. As 3rd party have always been important to PlayStation. They bolstered there 1st party output, lowered there console price & gave you ultimately some of the best games.
My point is that when Sony pulled the same trick on Microsoft. They responded. Like Sony did before them. So they bought Bethesda & ABK.
@Oram77 Microsoft was happy letting 3rd party games keep there platform afloat. Till Jim Ryan started to aggressively make 3rd party exclusive deals with partners that had good relations to Microsoft. Bethesda was one. Other Sony execs warned not to poke the sleeping giant.
@-Sigma- If Xbox users are feeling like second class citizens. I feel for diehard PS fanboys getting live service they didn't ask for & remakes of old games that we have all played.
@AsterZero we have had all sorts of excuses why it took a decade to came to Xbox. One was paying for Xbox live & the sub at the same time. Which you have to now anyway on Xbox.
Was there any sort of exclusive clause for 14. Hard to tell. But for the 7 remake it has definitely been extended. Until when? Not sure. As for other titles. It looks like Sony maybe getting sneaky or aggressive since the ABK deal. As black myth wukong was hinted by Microsoft to have some sort of deal. Sega announced it's latest Sonic Shadow title would have exclusive prologue scenes.
@SNARF your new PlayStation CEO said lately that the PlayStation console was still the main priority. Then Lego Horizon Adventure gets announced for PC & Nintendo Switch but the PS4 which still has a large audience is excluded.
Both Sony & Microsoft are trying to play down the shift to 3rd party publishing so it doesn't hurt sales of hardware.
It's funny that everyone jumps on Phil Spencer every word but your new PlayStation CEO first public act is to lie about there multiplatform future. No outrage.
@Rmg0731 why is Microsoft paying Square Enix for ports of older games not on there platform for Games Pass a problem? These games will likely not sell well as most who wanted to play them will have played on other platforms. It gets people who haven't to play them. It makes it look like Square Enix is fully supporting Xbox as they will have games on Games Pass & offer new titles at full price. Win win.
Square Enix has a ton of games on PlayStation Plus. Don't see you complain at that. I wonder why?
@UltimateOtaku91 PC day & date didn't ruin Xbox. Xbox mismanagement killed Xbox. Xbox one launch killed Xbox's chance to compete against the PS4, little to no 1st party games & poorer 3rd party support to the competition did it. Plus Microsoft is connected to PC so it's a natural shift for certain Xbox users. Where for PlayStation users it isn't.
I bet PlayStation would fair better than Xbox going day & date with PC. As it still has the best 3rd party support of all consoles, 1st party games would still play well on PlayStation hardware, Sony as a publisher isn't the biggest seller on its hardware so to a large portion of the fanbase they wouldn't care anyway. Playstation would still have perks like PS+ & 3rd party exclusives. Xbox games will soon be day & date.
You also have that console is the cheaper option to play games. Which in the economical times we are in is a plus. You also have to factor PlayStation 5 has 62 million shipped to Xbox Series 33 million so again PC support hasn't killed Xbox hardware altogether . A lot jumped to PlayStation as well as PC.
Microsoft, Sony. At the moment there both as bad as each other. Mass layoffs, studio closures & generally pissing off gamers for a quick buck. Then add the other third party publishers following the trend. Only Nintendo seems to be bucking the trend.
Hopefully this whole Helldivers 2 PC saga over the weekend. Ain't to Sony what the Xbox One reveal was to Microsoft. As a lot of you may not like the whole PC situation. But if it's successful? PlayStation console owners benefit also.
@HonestHick Microsoft has said before the average Games Pass user buys DLC, Season Passes & other add ons for games running on the service. I myself have & I buy a ton of games due to Games Pass savings. So far purchased 6 games on Xbox this year. To 3 games on my PS5.
The more choice the better for the consumer in the long run. Specially in the challenging economic times.
@Jay767 well I'd hope so as PlayStation has the best third party support of all three console platforms. But in all truth the biggest spender is Nintendo fans.
@Jay767 your new PlayStation boss said the opposite to your statement. If I remember correctly he said the average PlayStation user buys 2-4 games a year.
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Re: Halo Series Might Not Come to PS5 in the Way You're Thinking
@Titntin I agree the media is very biased. But the loyal hardcore PlayStation fanboys are more who I was referring to. You see them on YouTube like PRock77, Xvault etc. You occasionally see them on here & Pure Xbox also.
I agree it is a big deal the shift from both Xbox plus PlayStation to be a platform & 3rd party publisher. I did see the figures & wasn't really surprised that Sea of Thieves was the best sold. Newer titles will more likely sell better. So it will be interesting what Microsoft does with that data. So is it big titles like Gears of War, Fable, Forza, Halo with Bethesda & Activision Blizzard. Does that mean Avowed & South of Midnight get ported. Again many unknowns.
Re: Sony Reportedly Gearing Up to Sell You The Last of Us on PS5 One More Time
@Grumblevolcano if the Last of Us double pack is announced for Switch 2 along with the PS5 & PC editions. The meltdown will be to epic proportions. Some fanboys haven't yet recovered from Playstation being at the last Switch Direct.
Re: Halo Series Might Not Come to PS5 in the Way You're Thinking
@naruball that's my point though. As a large portion of the Playstation community never had any intention to own an Xbox. So make excuses like the multiplatform release or had no games in the first place. Now it's a constant debate to which game is heading to Playstation on a daily basis.
Re: Halo Series Might Not Come to PS5 in the Way You're Thinking
It's funny how some are now using that Xbox going multiplatform as an excuse. Or Xbox had no games as a reason for never owning an Xbox. Then say id buy Halo, Gears of War, Fable, Forza 😆😆😆. Some of those games have been on Xbox for 20 years.
Re: PS6 Could Be the Only High-End Next-Gen Console, As New Xbox Touted to Be a 'PC in Essence'
@Fiendish-Beaver to be fair look at the price of the PS5 Pro. Console aren't getting cheaper either. Plus the latest 2025 Steam hardware survey shows the bulk of gamers still use mid to low end hardware. So their is a market to be had if they can hit the sweet spot in price with a relatively descent spec.
Microsoft's new philosophy of putting the games where the gamer is. Will bring in more money in the long run even if the bulk is 70%. I'm pretty sure the hybrid Xbox will be all digital. Hence opening of the eco system to rivals to avoid similar problems Amazon, Apple, Google & even Microsoft themselves have had with the EU's Digital Markets Act. Microsoft is looking at releasing a mobile store. They will soon allow purchased games via the Xbox & Windows store to be playable from the cloud on any online & Bluetooth device. So they'd get high revenue streams from those users. Which could off set revenue loss from rival stores on Xbox hardware.
I also asked people I know. If Xbox put Steam on the platform would they use it? Most weren't interested if it was an optional download. These were mostly younger people. A handful of people my age in their 40's said they'd definitely use it. Others said it depends what's already on the box when purchased. So I got a mixed result from those who I asked.
Re: PS6 Could Be the Only High-End Next-Gen Console, As New Xbox Touted to Be a 'PC in Essence'
@Fiendish-Beaver I agree. Playstation making the disc drive modular was pure genius. 3rd party disc drive could be a possibility for the next Xbox or OEM.
Re: PS6 Could Be the Only High-End Next-Gen Console, As New Xbox Touted to Be a 'PC in Essence'
@Fiendish-Beaver there is more to it though. As if the next Xbox is an all digital system. They will be under the same scrutiny as Apple & Google have recently fallen fowl to under the Digital Markets Act in the EU. Even Sony has had a few lawsuits over pricing & not selling game cards outside of its Playstation store.
Re: Rumour: Next-Gen Xbox a 'PC in Essence' - What Would That Mean for PlayStation?
@Fiendish-Beaver why is it so hard to believe that the next Xbox could have Steam. Making the Xbox OS open & fully licensed to OEMs could do to gaming what Android did to mobile.
Re: Xbox Boss Wants to Beat PS6 on Hardware Capabilities, Not Necessarily Games
@get2sammyb but your not looking at the full picture. If Xbox opens its next gen console to allow Steam & Epic stores. Then the console has their exclusives & any deals Microsoft make for the Xbox store as they'd be competing for your money. Their is nothing stopping Sony making an app store either. More competition leads to better pricing. Plus id bet Xbox games would be available on all stores anyway. Add Games Pass, Play anywhere etc. So id suspect Microsoft would still make money off of software. Plus Microsoft talked about 3rd party consoles. So what's stopping Microsoft from partnering with Valve & others to keep costs down on hardware. They'd also be able to license it to other manufacturers.
Re: Horizon MMO May Have Survived NCSOFT's Cull After All
@get2sammyb you mention toxic fanboy behavior!!! But then reply to someone saying that the Switch 2 that hasn't released yet will be a better place for Sony to port older games than Xbox Series consoles which is available today & has an install base to sell to. That is a typical fanboy response!!! It's also the attitude that has landed gaming in the trouble it's in. As I bet you wrote it as it's the general narrative surrounding Xbox. I could see Helldivers 2, Spiderman & others sell well on Xbox as much as it would on the Nintendo Switch 2. Just like I see that Xbox games will sell well on PlayStation.
Re: Horizon's MMO Appears to Have Been Cancelled
Man that sucks. I was looking forward to hearing more about the Horizon MMO. As if done well it could have been to Sony what Final Fantasy 14 is to Square Enix. A good money maker.
Re: Industry Journalist Says Xbox Game Pass Does Increase Premium Sales, on PS5
@breakneck Sea of Thieves may be live service title but it had no content when it released other than exploring & didn't review well. if it wasn't for Games Pass it probably be lucky if it would have lasted more than a year.
Re: Sony Brings Back Iconic PS1 Startup Screen on PS5, But Only for a Limited Time
@vyseofhr I liked the Sega Saturn's start up 👍. But the original Playstation one when I booted my PS5 to play Tower of Aghasba today brings back some good memories.
Re: This Horizon Rip-Off Has to Be One of the Most Blatant Copycat Games Ever
It's now coming to PS5, Android & IOS also
Re: Black Ops 6 Drives Monthly PS5 Sales Growth in the UK, 75% of Players Purchase on PlayStation
@Matroska Microsoft said they went after ABK for King. To get a foothold in the mobile market. If they get the Xbox app store running & it's successful on IOS & Android. Then it's money well spent as mobile is the bigger prize.
Re: Black Ops 6 Drives Monthly PS5 Sales Growth in the UK, 75% of Players Purchase on PlayStation
@get2sammyb they already tweeted that 50% of all US Xbox users were playing COD. Plus this is the first COD since the 360 days that more are playing on Xbox than PlayStation. So it's a W.
Re: Death Stranding Gets a Surprise Xbox Series X|S Port, Out Now
@truerbluer Sony could be making money from licensing the Decima engine. This could be a field test. They have a great engine which for current gen consoles runs better than Unreal 5. Could be a gold mine.
Re: Xbox Fans Really Want a Port of PS5, PC Hit Helldivers 2
@Frmknst didn't hurt Fortnite.
Re: Xbox Fans Really Want a Port of PS5, PC Hit Helldivers 2
@Medic_alert I don't see Microsoft loosing money on Black OPs 6 being on Games Pass. As There is different ways for them to make money while it's on the service. The £30 vault bundle, micro transactions etc. Plus there is nothing stopping them buying it after a few months or later when heavily reduced.
Re: Xbox Fans Really Want a Port of PS5, PC Hit Helldivers 2
I don't get how people think the Xbox market isn't big enough for Helldiver's 2. When Sea of Thieves has been on the go since 2018. Other GaaS games do well also on the platform.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@Flaming_Kaiser I wouldn't just blame subscription services for poor sales. There is many reasons. AAA gaming is getting stagnant in many genres. I have had more fun & feel I get better value playing indies lately. Another is the cost. £70 is a big no to some. I'll pay it but even Im getting to the point that I have to pick wisely which games I buy as It couldn't afford every game I would like.
Re: Microsoft CEO Says More Xbox Games Will Come to PS5, Hours After Rumours Said Porting Project Was Paused
Nadella statement goes live on the release of Call of Duty Black OPs 6 on multiple platforms & his statement mentions cloud gaming which next month will allow paid games from the Xbox store to be playable on any device with a screen, WiFi, Bluetooth & a web browser. They also have a mobile store releasing next month on Android/IOS.
So the rumor that Microsoft learned from Indiana Jones announcement could still be true. But it's Microsoft. Anything is possible.
Re: Bungie Accused of Overselling Itself to Sony, Promising Success It Couldn't Deliver
@PuppetMaster Sony purchased Psygnosis back in 1993 which was one of the biggest European publishers at the time. They dominated the EU/US market in 1996 with Psygnosis titles.
Microsoft bought Bethesda to stop Sony bagging Starfield & other titles as timed exclusives after Deathloop & Ghostwire Tokyo. As for ABK that was for mobile & PC market gains. Sony did the same when Microsoft was competitive with the Xbox 360 running into the Xbox One era. They bought up studios as that's all they could afford I guess. Like I said before if Sony could afford to buy more they would.
Microsoft playing dirty is no different than Sony back in the early PlayStation days. Peter Moore said when he was head of Sega that Sony would revoke stock if PlayStation didn't get more floor space than the competition. So there all as bad as each other. As they all used there market dominance at one point.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
@Zeke68 with the success of Elden Ring it would be crazy of Sony not to finance a sequel.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
@Zeke68 all those games are great ideas & sure would sell a ton. Well maybe after the success of Elden Ring & now Black Myth:Wu Kong. Sony will look at Bloodborne 2
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
@AdamNovice I don't understand either why people think that PlayStation can't be successful at both single player & multiplayer games. A wide variety of games helps make PlayStation & it's hardware a success in the future. People expected Helldiver's 2 to fail also but was a hit. I don't get PlayStation fanboys!!!!. They hate on PlayStation multiplatform strategy. But Sony explains it needs the money from multiplayer to make great single player titles but fans complain & want them to fail. This could drive Sony into adopting a similar strategy as Microsoft. Big games like Spiderman 3 & Wolverine could become fully 3rd party just to claw back the money they've lost from the disaster I call the Jim Ryan era.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@Flaming_Kaiser I like to buy games myself as well. Games Pass like PlayStation Plus is a useful tool I use to try games I usually wouldn't buy & Microsoft 1st party titles. I also use the money I save to buy other 3rd party games. But there are some games I wouldn't touch in a subscription service like RPGs.
Yes I agree that a part of the Xbox fanbase just rely on Games Pass. But think Sony has the same problem with Playstation Plus & to a certain degree a large casual audience that only buys COD & EA Soccer every year.
Re: Dramatic Conflicts as Sony Accused of Signing Secret PS5 Exclusivity with Black Myth: Wukong
@get2sammyb it makes sense. Sony has invested a lot in China. They have there hero project & announced at the end of last year they wanted to heavily invest in entertainment. They have had exclusive deals with publishers like MiHoYo. So Sony see's it as a key market for growth.
Problem is Microsoft buying ABK gave Xbox a foothold in China. As Blizzard games are hugely popular. So I could see why Sony might want to keep it off of Xbox.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
Microsoft isn't gonna buy advertising rites to a game just to burn money. It obviously see's an advantage to owning it. Just like Phil Spencer turning up to FF14 expo in New Vegas was for fun also I guess. Xbox users asked for more JRPGs
You also act like PlayStation gets every JRPG. In Japan Switch is king. Even Sony has had it rough. I never said that Xbox will ever be the best place to buy JRPGs. I've got a Switch & PS5 for that. All I said is they must be selling as we seem to be getting more Asian/JRPGs than ever before. Even Genshin Impact is coming in November.
This year alone I've purchased on my xbox
Persona 3 Reload
Unicorn Overlord
Sand Land
Dragons Dogma 2
Final Fantasy 14 & Dawntrail
Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance
Octopath Traveler 2
Visions of Mana
You asked for 4 Future Xbox titles.
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SWORD ART ONLINE Fractured Daydream
Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D
Fantasian Neo Dimension
Suikoden I&II HD Remaster
Blue Protocol
Lost Helleden
Monster Hunter: Wild
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@QiaraIris well the guy I responded to mentioned both RPG/JRPG 😅😅😅. So who is moving the goalposts.
So why is Xbox getting more JRPGs if they don't sell? You'd think it be the opposite.
Re: Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
@Dragon83 utter *****. RPGs have done well on Xbox. As for JRPGs not being successful on the platform. That's more on the Japanese developers lack of interest in the platform. But that has gradually changed & there is more now than ever on Xbox.
Re: Bungie Accused of Overselling Itself to Sony, Promising Success It Couldn't Deliver
@PuppetMaster I was answering a question. So no I didn't forget about those. But your missing my point.
To answer yours first. What did Sony do when Microsoft started playing them at there own game during the 360 era. As 3rd party have always been important to PlayStation. They bolstered there 1st party output, lowered there console price & gave you ultimately some of the best games.
My point is that when Sony pulled the same trick on Microsoft. They responded. Like Sony did before them. So they bought Bethesda & ABK.
Re: Bungie Accused of Overselling Itself to Sony, Promising Success It Couldn't Deliver
@Oram77 American Congress did look into PlayStation dominance in Japan. The FTC did an inquiry on the Bungie acquisition.
Re: Bungie Accused of Overselling Itself to Sony, Promising Success It Couldn't Deliver
@Oram77 Microsoft was happy letting 3rd party games keep there platform afloat. Till Jim Ryan started to aggressively make 3rd party exclusive deals with partners that had good relations to Microsoft. Bethesda was one. Other Sony execs warned not to poke the sleeping giant.
Re: Talking Point: Was Sony Right to Resist Adding PS5 Exclusives to PS Plus Day One?
@-Sigma- If Xbox users are feeling like second class citizens. I feel for diehard PS fanboys getting live service they didn't ask for & remakes of old games that we have all played.
Re: Talking Point: Was Sony Right to Resist Adding PS5 Exclusives to PS Plus Day One?
@UltimateOtaku91 Sony has gone multi platform as well & they sell there games full price. So there is more to it than just Games Pass?.
Re: Talking Point: What's Next for Xbox Games on PS5, PS4?
@HonestHick aye only dafties complain when they get choice of what to play where they want to play.
Re: Talk of Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy Being Completely Console Exclusive to PlayStation Is Inaccurate
@AsterZero we have had all sorts of excuses why it took a decade to came to Xbox. One was paying for Xbox live & the sub at the same time. Which you have to now anyway on Xbox.
Was there any sort of exclusive clause for 14. Hard to tell. But for the 7 remake it has definitely been extended. Until when? Not sure. As for other titles. It looks like Sony maybe getting sneaky or aggressive since the ABK deal. As black myth wukong was hinted by Microsoft to have some sort of deal. Sega announced it's latest Sonic Shadow title would have exclusive prologue scenes.
Re: Xbox Really Wasn't Happy with PlayStation's Call of Duty Marketing Deal
@SNARF aye Nintendo has won the console war.
Re: Xbox Really Wasn't Happy with PlayStation's Call of Duty Marketing Deal
@SNARF your new PlayStation CEO said lately that the PlayStation console was still the main priority. Then Lego Horizon Adventure gets announced for PC & Nintendo Switch but the PS4 which still has a large audience is excluded.
Both Sony & Microsoft are trying to play down the shift to 3rd party publishing so it doesn't hurt sales of hardware.
Re: Xbox Really Wasn't Happy with PlayStation's Call of Duty Marketing Deal
It's funny that everyone jumps on Phil Spencer every word but your new PlayStation CEO first public act is to lie about there multiplatform future. No outrage.
Re: Octopath Traveler 1 Receives PS5, PS4 Age Ratings Ahead of SGF Show
@Rmg0731 why is Microsoft paying Square Enix for ports of older games not on there platform for Games Pass a problem? These games will likely not sell well as most who wanted to play them will have played on other platforms. It gets people who haven't to play them. It makes it look like Square Enix is fully supporting Xbox as they will have games on Games Pass & offer new titles at full price. Win win.
Square Enix has a ton of games on PlayStation Plus. Don't see you complain at that. I wonder why?
Re: Sony Plans to Convert PC Gamers Through the Power of PlayStation
@UltimateOtaku91 PC day & date didn't ruin Xbox. Xbox mismanagement killed Xbox. Xbox one launch killed Xbox's chance to compete against the PS4, little to no 1st party games & poorer 3rd party support to the competition did it. Plus Microsoft is connected to PC so it's a natural shift for certain Xbox users. Where for PlayStation users it isn't.
I bet PlayStation would fair better than Xbox going day & date with PC. As it still has the best 3rd party support of all consoles, 1st party games would still play well on PlayStation hardware, Sony as a publisher isn't the biggest seller on its hardware so to a large portion of the fanbase they wouldn't care anyway. Playstation would still have perks like PS+ & 3rd party exclusives. Xbox games will soon be day & date.
You also have that console is the cheaper option to play games. Which in the economical times we are in is a plus. You also have to factor PlayStation 5 has 62 million shipped to Xbox Series 33 million so again PC support hasn't killed Xbox hardware altogether . A lot jumped to PlayStation as well as PC.
Re: Helldivers 2 on PS5, PC Is Sony's Fastest Selling Game of All Time
5th May was the day it was pulled from Steam in 170 countries. & refunds were offered.
Re: Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, More Closed in Brutal Bethesda Restructure
Microsoft, Sony. At the moment there both as bad as each other. Mass layoffs, studio closures & generally pissing off gamers for a quick buck. Then add the other third party publishers following the trend. Only Nintendo seems to be bucking the trend.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
Hopefully this whole Helldivers 2 PC saga over the weekend. Ain't to Sony what the Xbox One reveal was to Microsoft. As a lot of you may not like the whole PC situation. But if it's successful? PlayStation console owners benefit also.
Re: Talking Point: What's Next for Xbox Games on PS5, PS4?
@HonestHick Microsoft has said before the average Games Pass user buys DLC, Season Passes & other add ons for games running on the service. I myself have & I buy a ton of games due to Games Pass savings. So far purchased 6 games on Xbox this year. To 3 games on my PS5.
The more choice the better for the consumer in the long run. Specially in the challenging economic times.
Re: Talking Point: What's Next for Xbox Games on PS5, PS4?
@Jay767 well I'd hope so as PlayStation has the best third party support of all three console platforms. But in all truth the biggest spender is Nintendo fans.
Re: Talking Point: What's Next for Xbox Games on PS5, PS4?
@Jay767 your new PlayStation boss said the opposite to your statement. If I remember correctly he said the average PlayStation user buys 2-4 games a year.
Re: PS5, PS4 Ports of Xbox Survival Game Grounded Out Now
@UltimateOtaku91 correcting a troll, makes you a troll. Got ya 😂😂