Does the Playstation Eye's horrible resolution bring this game down a bit. I mean, as a piece of hardware it does a good time of tracking the move controller but I cringe anytime I see it actually produce video on the screen.
@DrCruse Tell that to the most profitable and (arguably) successful company in the world: Apple.
Everything they do is proprietary. How do you hook an iPod up to a computer? With a proprietary ipod to usb jack. How do you transfer ANYTHING on your computer to an ipod? Through a proprietary app called itunes. You want to make an app for their app store? Great, first get a dev license and then submit your app. Will they accept it? Who knows? You want to create your app in Adobe Flash? Great, go for it! No, wait, you can't -we'll block it. No wait, you can. We're losing money to android and need as many apps as we can get.
With PS3, I like that I can charge my controllers on a PS3 via usb. Can you do that with other systems (I don't know)? I can charge them on my computer. Not very proprietary.
Move controls are good, however it is hard as hell to putt. I have no problem getting to the green on every level but once I get there it is 4 and 5 putts.
My only question is that wasn't this originally considered a "budget game" ($40.00 range) to showcase the Move? Do you think that is still the case?
I suppose so. Move only games don't seem to get the dev backing that games that allow DS3 + Move games seem to get.
The good news is that, because it is a Move only title, it should get adequate testing with the controls, unlike game companies that design for DS3, Move, Kinect, Wii, Xbox controller, etc.
Great review. Turning IS oversensitive. You can't change that in the settings. I am a huge fan of the SSX series, particularly SSX3. This game just isn't as... I can't put my finger on it...
If I completely hated Flower, is there any chance that I might like this game?
The screen shots provided are among some of the least interesting ones I have seen for any game on any platform (way back to the Atari 2600) and certainly don't represent the "visual variety" that you discuss.
Ok. Played Grand Slam 2 with Move once more. Turns out the controls are even worse than I and @jfmoles thought.
He was correct about the importance of using the back swing, however that is ALL you need to do to hit the ball: Pull the Move back, and the computer swings the racket for you. You don't even have to swing at all.
I finally played it with Move and Nav. It's definitely fun, looks fantastic and there is a learning curve.
The problem with the Move is that not only is it not 1:1, it merely treats your swing as a button push. No matter how hard, how soft, how your wrist is and how the racket would make contact with the ball does not matter. It is simply registering that you are swinging. And it doesn't even register whether it is a forehand or a backhand. Timing is the only thing that is being measured and that is what affects power and placement. It really makes you appreciate Sports Champions table tennis.
To change the type of swing you have to hit various buttons on the move controller, which is not always an easy task, as they are strangely placed.
The worst part about it though, has got to be the part where it doesn't recognize a forward swing vs. a backhand. It just doesn't make sense and kind of takes the fun out of the game. I really really really hope they fix this part of the game. I highly doubt it though.
Dagger! This is the one that I was hoping for. Actually, any of the 3 tennis games released in the last year I had high hopes for because that is the sort of thing I thought a Move controller would be best suited to.
So, a year and a half into things, we have no good tennis game, no good boxing games, no good bowling games, some sub-mediocre golf games, awful bowling games—these are the sort of games I thought they would be able to handle with the Move.
What we're left with is 2 good good shooters, a TON of ported casual Wii games, and one very good sports game that felt like a demo at first, but is since held as the pinnacle of the Move franchise.
What is it that George Bush (the younger) once said? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... (long, long, long pause) ...You don't get fooled again!"
And yet I still come to this website everyday with the hopes that my hardware purchases will someday be warranted.
Looks pretty cool. I wonder how deep this game is. I sort of get the feeling you can finish it in about 3 hours. Don't ask me why I think that. General Sony Move pessimism, I guess.
That is unwatchable. Thank God Sony's tv adverts are more engaging.
I agree the focus should be on games but I also think that clever marketing or lack thereof plays a big role in the future success or failure of the move.
For each review on this site, I first scroll down to the rating: "9 stars out of ten - that's good."
Then I scroll up 2 paragraphs to read the inevitable : "If there’s one negative thing to be mentioned about this game, however, it is the implementation of camera controls with PlayStation Move."
It gets a bit depressing. Not that it is the fault of the person writing the review, just that Move implementation in most games seems to be shoddy or a complete afterthought.
What is the difference between this and Dangerous Hunts?
Also, Big Game Hunter 2012 got a review of 6/10 vs. 7/10 for Dangerous Hunts 2011. Would you say that DH 2011 is the better purchase (it's also a good bit cheaper)?
I assume that this game is no less realistic than your average FPS in which you gun down 1 person per minute and re-spawn to full health every time you get killed.
@amonte That's what I want. A fun game for a change that I can get my kids to play, on the Move. Not Killzone, Resistance, or whatever, butsomething solid for kids.
From the press release: "The turbo button is for Galaga, Astrosmash and Space Invaders for automatic fire — no longer will you have to continually press the fire button"
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Re: Review: Wonderbook: Book of Spells (PlayStation 3)
Sammy,
Does the Playstation Eye's horrible resolution bring this game down a bit. I mean, as a piece of hardware it does a good time of tracking the move controller but I cringe anytime I see it actually produce video on the screen.
Re: Japanese Sales Charts: Hardware Sinks, Vita Stinks
Screw the console numbers.
That's one hilarious list of top 20 software.
Re: PlayStation 3 Leads European Hardware Market
Like Queen(in the old days) and footie:
#1 worldwide; not so big in N. America.
Re: Sony Preparing for Biggest Annual Loss in a Decade
@DrCruse Tell that to the most profitable and (arguably) successful company in the world: Apple.
Everything they do is proprietary. How do you hook an iPod up to a computer? With a proprietary ipod to usb jack. How do you transfer ANYTHING on your computer to an ipod? Through a proprietary app called itunes. You want to make an app for their app store? Great, first get a dev license and then submit your app. Will they accept it? Who knows? You want to create your app in Adobe Flash? Great, go for it! No, wait, you can't -we'll block it. No wait, you can. We're losing money to android and need as many apps as we can get.
With PS3, I like that I can charge my controllers on a PS3 via usb. Can you do that with other systems (I don't know)? I can charge them on my computer. Not very proprietary.
Re: Extended Cut Brings Clarity to Mass Effect 3's Conclusion
Whys everyone crying over this? What happened?
Re: Review: Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13 (PlayStation 3)
Move controls are good, however it is hard as hell to putt. I have no problem getting to the green on every level but once I get there it is 4 and 5 putts.
Any advice?
Re: Watch Wayne Rooney Play Golf in New Tiger Woods Trailer
But isn't the putting impossible.
It seems like no matter what level I play on, it is incredibly easy to get on the green (two shots on a par 5), then I 4-10 putt after that.
Re: New Sorcery Footage Waves its Wand
My only question is that wasn't this originally considered a "budget game" ($40.00 range) to showcase the Move? Do you think that is still the case?
I suppose so. Move only games don't seem to get the dev backing that games that allow DS3 + Move games seem to get.
The good news is that, because it is a Move only title, it should get adequate testing with the controls, unlike game companies that design for DS3, Move, Kinect, Wii, Xbox controller, etc.
Re: New Sorcery Footage Waves its Wand
Visual treatment is very nice. I wonder how deep this game will be?
Re: Review: SSX (PlayStation 3)
Great review. Turning IS oversensitive. You can't change that in the settings. I am a huge fan of the SSX series, particularly SSX3. This game just isn't as... I can't put my finger on it...
...fun.
Re: Sony Ships 10 Million PlayStation Move Controllers
Agreed with @Ginkgo. I also notice that the PS Store no longer has a Move category for their games.
Makes me think it is on the way out.
Re: Review: Journey (PlayStation Network)
If I completely hated Flower, is there any chance that I might like this game?
The screen shots provided are among some of the least interesting ones I have seen for any game on any platform (way back to the Atari 2600) and certainly don't represent the "visual variety" that you discuss.
Re: Yakuza Studio Boss "Committed" to PlayStation
Do they not have couches in Japan?
Re: FIFA 12 Scores Free January Transfer Update
Did they update Rooney's new hair?
Re: First Impressions: Grand Slam Tennis 2
Ok. Played Grand Slam 2 with Move once more. Turns out the controls are even worse than I and @jfmoles thought.
He was correct about the importance of using the back swing, however that is ALL you need to do to hit the ball: Pull the Move back, and the computer swings the racket for you. You don't even have to swing at all.
Yikes! That's really bad.
Re: First Impressions: Grand Slam Tennis 2
I finally played it with Move and Nav. It's definitely fun, looks fantastic and there is a learning curve.
The problem with the Move is that not only is it not 1:1, it merely treats your swing as a button push. No matter how hard, how soft, how your wrist is and how the racket would make contact with the ball does not matter. It is simply registering that you are swinging. And it doesn't even register whether it is a forehand or a backhand. Timing is the only thing that is being measured and that is what affects power and placement. It really makes you appreciate Sports Champions table tennis.
To change the type of swing you have to hit various buttons on the move controller, which is not always an easy task, as they are strangely placed.
The worst part about it though, has got to be the part where it doesn't recognize a forward swing vs. a backhand. It just doesn't make sense and kind of takes the fun out of the game. I really really really hope they fix this part of the game. I highly doubt it though.
Re: First Impressions: Grand Slam Tennis 2
Do you use a Move control and a Nav control for this game, unlike the latest Virtua tennis that just moves the player for you?
Re: First Impressions: Grand Slam Tennis 2
Ok. @jfmoles comments are slightly reassuring but still contain the ever common (for move related titles) "once they PATCH these minor issues..."
Whenever I hear about patches for Move issues, they never seem to get released or, when they do, never seem to fully address the issue at hand.
But you given me hope. False hope, probably. But hope nonetheless.
Re: First Impressions: Grand Slam Tennis 2
Dagger! This is the one that I was hoping for. Actually, any of the 3 tennis games released in the last year I had high hopes for because that is the sort of thing I thought a Move controller would be best suited to.
So, a year and a half into things, we have no good tennis game, no good boxing games, no good bowling games, some sub-mediocre golf games, awful bowling games—these are the sort of games I thought they would be able to handle with the Move.
What we're left with is 2 good good shooters, a TON of ported casual Wii games, and one very good sports game that felt like a demo at first, but is since held as the pinnacle of the Move franchise.
What is it that George Bush (the younger) once said? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... (long, long, long pause) ...You don't get fooled again!"
And yet I still come to this website everyday with the hopes that my hardware purchases will someday be warranted.
Re: Feature: Five Move Games to Watch in 2012
1. I'm dying for a good PS Move tennis game - will be watching very closely for EA Grand Slam.
2. I also would like to see another round of Tiger Woods to see if they can improve upon the Move controls any.
3. A decent boxing game
Re: EA Serves Up Grand Slam Tennis 2 in February
I'm skeptical, too.
The other ones were so bad with Move support, while Top Sspin was supposedly excellent for the Dual Shock.
Re: Brand New HD Sorcery Trailer Looks the Business
Cool. I will get this game.
Do you think it will go for full price (59.99 in US) or a budget price( 10 or more dollars less)?
Re: Sorcery Video, Screenshots and Details All Inside
Looks pretty cool. I wonder how deep this game is. I sort of get the feeling you can finish it in about 3 hours. Don't ask me why I think that. General Sony Move pessimism, I guess.
Re: The PlayStation Move Interactive Advert in Full
That is unwatchable. Thank God Sony's tv adverts are more engaging.
I agree the focus should be on games but I also think that clever marketing or lack thereof plays a big role in the future success or failure of the move.
Re: Review: Winter Stars (PlayStation 3)
Do you use two move controllers? That would seem best suited to things like biathlon, or any skiing game, even bobsled.
Re: Who's Competing in Grand Slam Tennis 2?
It looks pretty badass. How did the first version compare to the likes of Vitua Tennis and Top Spin?
Re: Who's Competing in Grand Slam Tennis 2?
Looks awesome. THIS is the game that needs to have good motion controls. Heck, if they can make it just as good as the Wii version, I'll be happy.
Re: Review: Dungeon Defenders (PlayStation Network)
For each review on this site, I first scroll down to the rating: "9 stars out of ten - that's good."
Then I scroll up 2 paragraphs to read the inevitable : "If there’s one negative thing to be mentioned about this game, however, it is the implementation of camera controls with PlayStation Move."
It gets a bit depressing. Not that it is the fault of the person writing the review, just that Move implementation in most games seems to be shoddy or a complete afterthought.
Not sure if this will ever get any better.
Re: Review: Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2012 (PlayStation 3)
You can use the Sharpshooter for Dangerous Hunts 2011 also, correct?
Re: Review: Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2012 (PlayStation 3)
What is the difference between this and Dangerous Hunts?
Also, Big Game Hunter 2012 got a review of 6/10 vs. 7/10 for Dangerous Hunts 2011. Would you say that DH 2011 is the better purchase (it's also a good bit cheaper)?
Re: Review: Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2012 (PlayStation 3)
I assume that this game is no less realistic than your average FPS in which you gun down 1 person per minute and re-spawn to full health every time you get killed.
Re: PlayStation Network Suffers Fresh Hack Attack
I've never entered any credit card numbers into the PSN. I buy everything through Amazon codes. Am I at risk at all?
Re: Just Dance 3 Moonwalks Back to December
Gutted : (
Re: Vote for Tiger Woods' Cover Co-Star for PGA Tour 13
definitely Rory
Re: Review: Dance! It's Your Stage (PlayStation 3)
Well, that is a crushing blow. I was really looking forward to this one.
Gutted.
Re: Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2012 Launches with This Trailer
We do?
Yeah, and the English love killing foxes and the Spaniards love killing bulls and the French love chopping people's heads off.
Re: This MLB Bobblehead Game Really Should Support Move
Franchise for bobbleheads?
I must be getting too old.
Re: Winter Stars
figure skating, are you kidding me? That should be interesting.
Re: Everybody's Golf Move Patch In the Works for Europe
@amonte That's what I want. A fun game for a change that I can get my kids to play, on the Move. Not Killzone, Resistance, or whatever, butsomething solid for kids.
Re: Everybody's Golf Move Patch In the Works for Europe
James, Have you heard of any reviews of the Japanese Move enabled game?
Re: Everybody's Golf Move Patch In the Works for Europe
By the way, does anyone even know if the Japanese Move version of this game is even any good or not? Any reviews out there?
Re: Everybody's Golf Move Patch In the Works for Europe
It's about time. I can only assume it will be available in the US as well.
Or does Sony just want to "F" with us (U.S)?
Re: Sony, With These Move Lifestyle Photos You Are Spoiling Us
These were made for Sony Scandinavia.
Re: First Impressions: Flex-Fire
I just think that it is silly. That's all: A gun with a curved barrel. More power to the people who use it.
Re: This is What Move Fitness Looks Like in Motion
Not until i see a review and multiple accounts by people who hav epurchased the game.
Move games are too spotty, unfortunately.
Re: EA Brings Grand Slam Tennis 2 to Move Centre Court
The Move Controls suck in Virtua Tennis 4.
Re: These Chinese Move Controllers Don't Look Bad, Actually
From the press release: "The turbo button is for Galaga, Astrosmash and Space Invaders for automatic fire — no longer will you have to continually press the fire button"
Re: These Chinese Move Controllers Don't Look Bad, Actually
Those look hideous
Re: Japan's Hot Shots Golf is Now Move-Enabled, But Ours Isn't
No word on move controls for North America yet?
What about any reviews of the Japanese move enabled version?
Re: Tiger Woods Gets His Very Own Move Bundle
Agreed. It's still fun, but maybe not as fun or rewarding as disk golf in Sports Champions.