TheMightyImp2

The pro was what I'd call a stupid tax. Like the PSVR2, technically its better, can do things the previous version can't, but you'll never get your moneys worth. Don't get me wrong, I have a release day PS5, and the ratchet and clank special edition (a mk2 fat ps5) and too many controllers. Like so many you wouldn't believe. But even I can't justify a PS5pro

@themightyant
I'm guessing the poster doesn't understand the constant velocity drive system for dvd and blueray. Cds are variable speed, about 500rpm in the centre and about 200rpm on the outside when reading data.
This isn't compatible with a dvd drovebthat just hums away at a set speed.

Well, if Sony get excited about a horizon clone and try to shut it down , I wonder if kojima will rightfully fight a game that apes his, but will be superbly sub standard in comparison

Well, it certainly won't be called the PS6 handheld, just like the Vita wasn't called the ps5 handheld.
You dont just add one to the number to make a handheld.
PSP, PSP go, PS Vita...

I had one delivered from game, wrapped in only plastic. No protective box for delivery. So, the controller box was absolutely crushed. So i had to send it back, and they had no stock. So I had to buy from a reseller. But game paid the extra £15 that the reseller charged because it was their fault.

I'll happily snap this new design up too, they also said that there were a few surprises. Let's hope it makes a special noise when switched on.

@Fluberuper That description was a cut and paste from steam. Very lazy of the op.

Here's a video of what to expect

https://youtu.be/50vgxM7GYyM?si=Lrob1w9IbI23vtOC

So.. to a.T..
Not heard about it before, but I know it will be wonderful

Is that immortality as in 2 years ago?
I guess if doesn't matter how long it took to come out if you can live forever. For the rest of us... maybe have these fancy physical releases actually at launch.

For once we early adopters got a good deal..
Amd surely this only really affects the USA so not sure why we'd care elsewhere. Maybe change your president if you don't like the 'can't compete, tax' policies

I predict this won't be as sought after as the awesome clear yellow of the ps4 console special edition. The controller sells for £150 on its own

@sanderson72 ps3 was even better! You could download 10 games at the same time and rip a cd to the internal folders with the cd automatically getting the track names. Good times

1. If you think you have to hide away when your kids are screaming, then you are a bad parent.. why are they screaming? Interact with them, help them find something better to do.
2. Buy your kids a switch each, and you'll never see them again apart from dinner time. Now this is a bit of a financial outlay, but get them into Minecraft, fortnite, and rocket league and they will play them on rotation for free, so you'll save in the long run.
3. You shouldn't encourage Sony. Had it been more of a vita, then I'd be more supportive. But controller that negates my purchase of a 4k tv when I got the ps5, with allm, hdr, 120hz refresh rate... why would I compromise on the sound and visuals when it is a massive part of ps5, which had to be left on anyway whike you peer into a tiny monitor, with lag.
4. If you have a healthy household, with mutual respect, you'll get your turn on the 'big tv' and people will either keep themselves busy on phones etc, or actively watch you and enjoy your enjoyment.

If you don't have this situation, love yourself enough to make a route to achieve this.

And don't forget, its your mental health time. If gaming chills you out or hypes you up, and that's what you need, it's better (and cheaper) for you and your family for you to stay in on ps5 than going out down the pub or club, and you are indoors with them rather than MIA.

So if you don't look after the discs there is a small possibility they will degrade. What a shocker.

Now for the reality of digital.
I'm just scanning through my digital games. On playstation, games that I have previously downloaded and installed and played, are becoming unavailable to download again.
Here's a quick list. It's not exhaustive, I have too many to check.

Cryptract
Brunswick pro bowling
Disney infinity 2.0, 3.0
Skylanders swap force
Qurare: Magic library
Scrabble
Weapons of mythology ~ new age.
Steinsgate Linear bounded Phenogram
Inner kung fu game.

That's just in the first 15 games, ordered oldest to newest out of over 1,700 downloaded games.

Downloaded games will disappear (without emulators or piracy) long before the physical discs die. Licences, the room on servers, all lapse or are deleted arbitrarily by people saving money. Big companies are not your friend. They will happily make any digital game unavailable and have all the legal jargon hidden in a EULA that no-one will ever read.

Articles like this are trying to soften you up to the 'inevitability' of a digital only future. That won't happen if we vote with our cash.. I appreciate the irony of someone with 1,700+ downloaded games saying stay physical, but believe me I buy discs whenever they are available, and have not bought games that were (on release) digital only.

@Cwmess have you done the 500 reticle size slider?

The ability to make the widgets even smaller. Scalable to your own specific size. Mostly because after placing about 4 of them on the screen, they block the background image

Well, I love most games, but the fact I have a couple of astrobot controllers, the astrobot game, and even my kids have been drawn into the history of playstation through astrobot, and I as of yet don't own BMW and haven't played it yet is a measure of just how popular astrobot, it's previous games, and the iconography it depicts is..

@Nakatomi_Uk that's a slow hdmi handshake. Probably the TV, not much you can do about that unfortunately..

@jorel262 12,300 numbered pros, and too many slims to be considered limited at all..

@themightyant This! You tell the frequent gamers, as the thrill is pretty much worn off from the lengthy loud intro.

People addressing themes.

They were withheld as they were a good way to jailbreak the systems.
As for the ps2 not having a custom screen, it did, in a very unique way. Those rectangular columns were your unique save data, visualised. If you don't understand, look it up. You might be surprised

This should read:
Weekend players (or players that are only allowed on thier systems for about three hours a week by thier controlling partner or parents) still think it's a pretty neat to see the PS1 logo (or more likely just the 30th anniversary screen as the PS5 cocks up the HDMI handshake)
The rest of us who play daily are pretty much done with it's jarring fanfare, especially through a large surround system!

Fun fact... The pro was lauded as the solution to the either or conundrum... No longer would you need to choose between graphics and frame rate...

GT7 isn't a pro game, it's a PS5 game that has had updates. Even given that, GT7 needs pssr on for internal car view, but needs it off for external shots or your rear lights will strobe and fizz. It gets the ray tracing marvellousness by making all the trees look like blobs of play dough..
The pro certainly still does ask you to choose between one thing or the other. Look at other games. Pro mode, pro max mode. Same thing, slightly better.

It's a great thing, and we are all happy for people who adopted it, despite it having noisy fans, coil whine, randomly shutting itself down, etc... it's new and has teething troubles. But don't forget us OG PS5 buyers weren't even allowed to put SSD's in them for weeks...

@Hordak this! Exactly this.
The vita is/was a great bit of kit. Even those of us who bought huge memory cards got stung by the early death of a great handheld.

@MrRhysReviews

Their new game comes out new years eve.

@Wario_Waha I have both switch and Playstation, and I know you are usually outed as a Nintendo fan (fair enough) but it does seem odd that you name jist three games for a decade..

Nominated and awarded are very different.

I'm sure Stella blade and Wukong will get nominated if rags like IGN don't doctor the public votes. Oh wait.. they already did..

@LowDefAl the pro fan is about 30% wider and has waaaay more heat pipes inside, as the pro uses 10% more power than the slim, which in turn used more power that the OG PS5.
It's bound to be louder as a result

So, the honeymoon period is over, and people had to fling the bling and buy a pro just because they needed to upload that to Instagram or something. And now they aren't happy that the new machine isn't perfect straight away? They don't sound like serial early adopters to me!

Nope.. the vii and rebirth are one and done. I pretty much couldn't be bothered to redo the whole game on hard or even do all the virtual arena fights.

Whereas, an online mmo will keep bringing you back if there's new content.

Smyths got 15 pros per store, and a few big stores got more.

Do a store pick up request and you'll see most shops still have about 12 left...

There was no fomo to pre-order for me..

But I would have liked the numbered limited edition, not gonna lie

But it's years old, her voice is super annoying, and the sequel is much better than the original.
It always had amazing graphics, the photo mode on that game was the only one I really messed with because alloys skin was so realistic it had blemishes and spots about to break the skin on her chin etc..

Mad for a console to launch without it's own launch title. Dogging this up from what feels like 4 years ago isn't all that.

Don't get me wrong, I love my ps5, but the pro isn't worth it if you have a working launch ps5 that uses 10% less energy than even the slim. The originals were the best!

What a non article.

Store says pro enhanced, we don't know how or why, and we don't have the connections to ask...

@IOI
Most expensive? You must be new around here...
Even the original 1977 VCS was $199 which is $1,048 with inflation.

Well, I had the PS5 since launch day.
Really well built, never skipped a beat. It plays PS4 games better than the PS4 pro could, so I've been happy with my purchase, and didn't mind when the price went up by £50, and back down again..
I am a total 'fanboy' and have had several of every playstation, including different region models to play games early. I have an embarrassing amount of controllers for the PS3, PS4, and PS5, none of which have ever got any drift.

I'm the perfect playstation customer. But I won't be buying a pro, despite having a really good 120hz VRR 4K TV..

I just hope that the people who have bought one get their money's worth, as I feel that it's not a big enough increase in specs to justify buying a new machine when mine is just fine. I'd love performance mode FPS with graphics mode visuals, but I'm not biting on this one...

Sammy: oof, it's almost 5pm and I haven't submitted my piece for the column.
Ah, I know, I'll just mention that the box has a symbol on it... Off to the pub..

Long bloated development times are fine by me, so long as the output is Stella blade or Astrobot quality. And it has free dlc a bit later.

I'm happy to play a crap load of games that probably came from a mobile phone app that have good gameplay and passable graphics in between waiting for epic games that are exclusive, at least when they first get released

I almost bought this, as I platinum'd the PS4 disc version, but just as I was about to pay the £10 upgrade fee, my ps5 helpfully told me I'd already got the free upgrade to the first ps5 version with identical trophies, and that I'd only bothered to do about a third of that play through.
So, given that I clearly couldn't be bothered the second time, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to play it a third time.

Should last until the PS7, lol.

Seriously, way funny thing to do, be a bit awkward if the service changes totally to free

Beautiful controller. Looks frosty. I have waaay to many controllers as it is though... Must resist it..

Can we have gex too while you are remastering everything

Of course, these stats don't take into account second hand sales..

There's a.huge market in people buying a disc version, finishing it, and then selling it for 50% less than they paid for it..

That user, and the next who buy the used disc, get the game for half price. Can't do that with digital products.

I'll always want a drove for suh d content, but it's good that the drive is optional.
It will be grave error to ever make playstations disc free though, they might not benefit directly from the second hand disc sales, but they will miss the tow punters who no longer buy the game as it's not more than full price and non transferrable

Games like astrobot and final fantasy I bought day one..
But other games I will often wait up to a month,. especially if I'm not absolutely sure if I want it, and can even buy games used for half the price.
I justify the day one purchases by saving on so many other games

@TrickyDicky99 Good point, well put..

Didn't we already upgrade it? I know it runs better on ps5. Hard to keep track of all the regurgitated remakes.

@Dampsponge they did. Ot was the original fat ps5,.and they brought out three revisions of it until the slim came along, with an optional disc drive.

@DonkeyFantasy you really should buy some ultra hd Blu-ray discs. So much better than Blu-ray or streaming.

Well, 30 hours over 10 years isn't very much. Did you mean 2014?

Well, didn't 'fear the spotlight' do well, lol

I bought a Fortnite switch for each of my kids
I'll buy astro bot and Spiderman controllers.
But I draw the line at Fortnite and LeBron James controllers, lol