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@nessisonett Maybe if there was a larger collective of people with staunch anti-censorship ideals rather than two sides being picky about what deserves to be censored and what doesn't, then this sort of thing wouldn't happen when the pendulum inevitably swings and the things that appeal to you start being censored.

But who needs principles when you can get your snipes in on the incels, right?

Seems they already fixed it as the fade is really light rather than the character completely disappearing in that one video, and you need to get to a really low angle to activate it. That already addresses my concern that the camera could be a hassle when using the 3D models as an art reference. It's very workable.

The game is... it's unplayable now...

Lol this is lame but not unexpected. Mihoyo has the CCP to answer to, I'm actually shocked by how much they've been able to get away with this far.

@__Seraph
1. (is it really criticism) Yes, it is definitionally criticism. That isn't an opinionated matter either, something is either criticized or it isn't. What you're wanting to say is that it's bad criticism or irrelevant criticism (which is something I've already expressed).

2. (where the majority of criticisms are coming from) Never once did I insinuate the majority of the trailer's backlash was or was not coming from a political angle. I have no idea how many people are criticizing the trailer for baldie's baldness vs how many people are criticizing / praising it for other reasons. This is your perspective that you're expecting me to have and idk why you'd even bring it up because it doesn't have anything to do with what I've said. Are you attacking my criticism of Push Square? They lied in both articles and I believe they engage in manipulation to paint an exclusively positive image of games they're financially incentivized to promote. You're welcome to disagree with the latter but the former is a fact.

3. (GuyA/GuyB) All you're doing here is picking which guy you agree with. Agree or disagree with whichever, I disagree with both. I'm sure the guy who thinks the video game industry is being torn apart by the woke agenda finds you to be extremely reductive with your constant moralizing of his opinion. You can have whatever perspective you want on anything and I'm allowed to agree or disagree with it and vice versa.

4. (Retaining neutrality til the final product) Agree to disagree. Trailers are representatives of their product and are meant to be judged, preferably positively. I judge this one negatively, maybe the next one will move me in the other direction but for now that is my impression of Intergalactic. Sorry if you're not happy with that impression but that's why I'm me and you're you.

5. (TLoU2) I've never played the Last of Us 2, I have a limited perspective for that game. I'm aware of criticisms levied against Elie's sexuality and Abby's appearance, just like I'm aware of several more criticisms like it's generally poor writing, mistreatment of characters from the previous game, shoehorned gameplay mechanics and so forth. If you want to zero in on those two points and say how horrible they are you're welcome to do that. But just like with the bald brigade I don't really care about those, they're empty criticisms and I'd rather move on to something more substantive.

I find it very tiring how in one breath you'll exclaim that everything is subjective, and the next establish a moral high ground against anyone who disagrees with you. Your repeated accusations that I'm lying are also not appreciated. Please don't waste my time with bad faith arguments.

@__Seraph I generally do not engage with politically motivated arguments for the reasons I stated before. That is unless they're actually relevant to another point I'm making, which in this case would me attacking Push Square's poor attempt to deflect criticism and intentionally lying in two articles relating to this topic. I understand you may have a more charitable view of this site or the author of the article, but I do not.

I also never said not to judge, that would be ridiculous. I'm clearly judging this trailer negatively based off the shallowness of its content, and specifically my point was that any positive reaction to that trailer is equally superficial to the negative ones.
Guy A hates it cause she's bald, guy B loves it cause 80s nostalgia and Naughty Dog. There's no superior take here, they're both bereft of substance, and that's mainly due to the trailer being bereft of substance.

To your next point, anyone can criticize whatever they want for whatever reason, which includes others people's perspectives and arguments. This trailer is the first ever look at this game and it reflects poorly on it, I am currently less inclined to buy this product than when I didn't even know it existed and Naughty Dog now has an uphill battle to convince me to. That's not a direct criticism of the game (because there is no game to criticize) but the result is effectively the same. You say you can't judge an album based off the clip of a single song but what if the clip is the only thing available and it sounds like ass? Should you be expected to retain neutrality until the full album is released? I don't think so, obviously a negative impression will be carried on until you're presented with something better from the artist.

And I agree, studios get held to different standards, I hold Naughty Dog to a higher standard than most because they're one of the most prolific studios in the industry and have access to resources most other studios do not. Currently what I do know is they're not meeting that standard.
Finally you're gonna have to be more specific about TLoU2 if you want me to understand your point about it. It was a controversial game that received all kinds of criticisms, some better than others. Idk what would be backwards about that.

@DennisReynolds True, there's more than likely an element of "we need to have something to present at Keighley's big show", the same kind of pressure I assume came with having something ready for E3.
That could be an explanation why so many of his world premiere's were exclusively cinematics.

@RoomWithaMoose It's why I deliberately never entertain any arguments about it one way or another, it's just a ***** slinging contest from two castes of deranged ideologues, there's literally no reason to ever get mixed in with that crowd.

Some contingent of gamers don't want to play as a bald chick for reasons that have nothing to do with the content of the game itself. Who cares.
What sites like Push Square are doing is using this controversary as a smokescreen to label ALL detractors of Intergalactic as toxic man-children, because anything south of a positive reaction is unacceptable to them. It's the kind of dishonest journalism I've come to expect here.

To me, the game's main character is currently just generic. Design is pretty uninspired, maybe an indication that there will be selectable costumes, and the personality on display is a plucky hero / antihero who's headstrong to a fault. Nothing wrong with that per se, but devoting the majority of four and half minute trailer to establish an incredibly basic character archetype... well, there's the reason why there isn't much to say about the trailer beyond the MC's appearance and the studio making the game.
They should've waited until they had gameplay to show, at least then we could judge Intergalactic as game and appeals to the character being ugly really would be entirely irrelevant.

@DennisReynolds This was the main thing that had me going in the previous article.
The Intergalactic trailer contains nothing of substance, in the same way that the negative reception is unreasonable given what we've seen, there's no reason why anyone should be so positive on it.

"Game looks so interesting, story is full of promise" I've heard. Does it really? All we've seen is some bald bounty hunter chick have a drawn-out stilted conversation with her agent, which competed in run time with a truck-load of superficial references to the 1980s... and most importantly - NO gameplay. This trailer sucks as a first impression to whatever world they're trying to introduce us to, and it should go without saying that no it absolutely does NOT look like an interesting game, because there was NO GAME shown.

I feel like I keep on having to tell people to expect and demand better from these multi-million dollar games, including their trailers. The longer our collective standards for media are so low, the longer we will keep on receiving slop that is mediocre at best and dysfunctional at worst. And at the budget that these games are made, that should not be acceptable to anyone.

These cringe ass culture war arguments do nothing but play on the ego of the reader and ultimately only distracts us from that wider issue.

Misinformation huh? Like Push Square willfully lying about WHEN Naughty Dog turned the comments off on their trailer? Hmmm...

I don't really give a ***** about what culture warriors on either side have to say about anything. The thing that vexes me is that there's a positive reception to this trailer at all. Is it just because Naughty Dog's name is on it? Cause when I saw that I just said "Oh, guess that explains why the dialogue is so awful." lol

There's nothing of substance here, I get pushing back on people having such a huge knee jerk negative reaction to the trailer for silly reasons, but at the same time, there's no reason why you should have a largely positive one. Demand better from VIDEO GAME trailers please!
Also yeah, others have brought it up but the person who wrote this article is conveniently leaving out the fact that Naughty Dog had the comments disabled from the start, likely to make the discourse sound worse than it actually is. Honest journalism? Never heard of it.

Technically Ninja Gaiden because an actual game was shown. But Project Robot would probably be the thing I want to get my hands on the most since its the next Team Ico project. Can't wait to see it in twelve years. Okami and Onimusha next, Capcom's got way more hits than they do misses, it's safe to assume anything they announce will be good.

@twitchtvpat Literally all six GotY nominations included gameplay in their reveal trailers, I can absolutely expect it. It's a video game, not a movie.

@AdamNovice Maybe. Judging from the stuff they showed in the 1.4 presentation trailer they're gonna involve not only Section 6 but every previous faction too. 1.2 could barely handle its own self-contained story, so I'm worried we get another one of those scenarios where we get like an hour's worth of overworld dialogue placed between a handful of five minute combat missions.
They really ***** up the pacing by ripping the exploration mode out of the story, and idk if there's been enough time for them to make a proper engaging replacement for it.
Not good for the story or the gameplay experience.

Guess I'm in the minority that the show was as boring as it is every year. Maybe I'd feel differently if any of the games announced that I was interested in showed gameplay, but other than Ninja Gaiden at the very start it was all cinematics.

@Callmegil Yeah seems like a lot to conclude in a single chapter. This game actually got me pretty invested in this plotline but if 1.2 and 1.3 are any indication it seems like they're gonna start rushing through it. Which is a shame.

He is an excellent voice actor, and he does a pretty good impression of Harrison Ford. His performance is bit too monotone in the game though, idk if its because he can only manage the voice in that one tone or maybe the voice director told him to stick to it. But Harrison has a lot wider range of emotion in the trilogy and I feel like Troy is only capturing a small bit of it.
Doesn't help that the story so far is bland and script lacks any of the wit the movies had, which is a shame, but not unexpected.

Lmao Zenless sweep, let's goooooooo!

I thought the initial trailer was extremely corny and this new one isn't really moving me from that. Idk man, making a cute colorful game where the protagonist has trauma and mental health issues, that's not exactly uncharted territory for indies. Maybe it's a little too charted, it was a bit of a meme for a while.

That isn't to say the game can't be good on its own merits or won't be well written, it absolutely can, but how noteworthy is "subverting the cozy game" nowadays really?
I suppose to its credit there's less subversions of the life sim genre than other genres (that I'm aware of). But obviously this game is meant to be a narrative experience disguised as a life sim rather than being a life sim with a narrative, and whenever I see stuff like that it comes off as a bit disingenuous. Maybe just not for me.

I'll be waiting for the PS5 release but I think it's a good idea to keep low expectations with this one.

Alright I think I'm gonna grab it. There doesn't seem to be anything of interest coming out in January for me so perfect opportunity to play the first game right before the second.

Everyone play Koudelka. That's all I have to add.

I FORGOT VINCIENT NOOOOOO

Oh cool, I just saw this on sale today and bit. Guess I'll wait for the update to start playing.

Resident Evil 2, Final Fantasy IX, Silent Hill, Koudelka, Klonoa, Final Fantasy VII, Atelier Elie, Mega Man Legends 1,2, & the Misadventures of Tron Bonne.

Some throats are simply too powerful to slit. The blade breaks upon impact.

We'll all be long dead before Ryo gets his revenge.

Doing more research, the original Venus Vacation is free (Koei Tecmo free aka riddled with additional purchases) and has native English supported as well. If you're willing to jump through some VPN hoops to get past Steam's region lock you can play it no problem.

@Keyblade-Dan Looked it up, this one's surprisingly a sequel to ANOTHER Asia exclusive DoA dating sim. The original had 9 initial characters which included most of the DoA mainstays, then DLC added an additional 20 so I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens here. Prepare to shell out extra for Kasumi I guess.

@Gunnerzaurus I don't think people ought to enjoy or be positive about things they either don't care about or don't like outright. The thing you nailed on the head is that OP has already come to a conclusion that the things he doesn't like are objectively bad, and he's clearly not willing to hear out an alternative perspective, that's why he answered his own question in his comment.
I'd say attack bad criticisms rather than saying don't ever make criticisms.

These look like the characters out of touch market teams put on energy drinks and doritos bags to try to appeal to gamers so that checks out lol.
That spiky green ***** is giving real "redeem code for 2000xp in-game" energy something bad.

But is this anything new? I know one of these ***** shooters has Nikki Minaj or some lady pop star as a playable character and I'm not thinking of Fornite. Seems like integrity to the war setting went out the window a long time ago, why expect CoD of all things to make it suddenly return?

@Icey664 Stellar Blade AND Unicorn Overlord unfortunately. They'll get relegated to nominees for "Best Action Game" and "Best RPG" respectively. Emio - The Smiling Man is my GOTY, but there's no dimension where that shows up for anything, let alone game of the year lol

@Azex I think these are the best guesses, with the exception that I would replace Tekken 8 with Silent Hill 2 due to recency bias. I've noticed that unless the game is INCREDIBLY mainstream, games released near the end of the year get billing over games released earlier. An example from last year I think Alan Wake II only got nominated because it was released a month earlier and still fresh for the journalist sites who cast the votes.
I also think they're going to try to sneak Veilguard in there, but at this point I believe there's too much pushback on the game's reception for anyone to buy it's a GOTY contender. Like at least TLoU2 was a divisive game, Veilguard seems to be outright rejected by the wider audience.
Guess we'll know on Monday.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I'm convinced Square Enix won't be satisfied with sales numbers until all 8 billion people on the planet buy their game.

@AhmadSumadi Imo I think it's second only to the combat. People love customizing their player character, and there's a lot of appeal in a game that comes with a truck load of unlockable costumes where usually those are relegated to paid DLC. You really don't see it that often, only other (current gen) game off the top of my head like it is Mario Odyssey.

This game is getting content updates ALL the time, it's crazy! Stellar Blade isn't my GOTY and I'm like 95% sure it won't be nominated for the Game Awards. But idk, at this point with how good the base game is plus all the post-launch support it's getting, I think it deserves to be in the running at least.

@somnambulance Bro could you imagine? You give me the kind of crazy and inventive games that were coming out for their consoles in the 90s I'd buy a new Sega in a heartbeat!

Veilguard is certainly looking like a 3/10 from the playthroughs I've been watching so I guess at the very least the user score better reflects the actual quality of the game.
I don't condone review bombing one way or the other, and that includes when a bunch of cherry picked journalist sites overrate a bad game.

Are there any notable differences that should compel me to not just buy a used copy for the PS4? That seems to be the way to go.

@DennisReynolds
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1845910/discussions/0/4635985982183842922/?l=german
Seems like he's referring to this. I've never written a review on Steam myself but from what I'm reading only Valve can delete reviews and they only do it if the content of the reviews breach user policy (eg spamming hateful language) or if the reviewer refunds the game.
So that is more than likely the case rather than any sort of attempt at obfuscation.
This isn't an endorsement of the game on my part, I've been watching a playthrough and five hours in it looks just as crap as I assumed it would be. But I'd like to not entertain conspiracy theories about positive reviews and sales numbers over more sensible explanations.

I see a storm- a very familiar storm, brewing on the horizon.

@get2sammyb For $200 million they could've made three Gravity Rushs and SIX Ape Escapes, and they'd ALL still be on the PS storefront smh

@Loamy Lol yeah

Immeasurable amounts of shock. Who could have seen this coming!?

@Loamy They hit some and they miss some

Really hope the game is good, Machine Games is very hit and miss. Very mixed on what they've shown so far but we'll just have to wait and see.

ZACK MY BELOVED

@ATaco Same, it's a good strategy. I'm convinced the W-engine banner is a polychrome scam lol

Still have been lucky enough to get both agents. I really wanted Caesar and Burnice, only really interested in Lighter for 1.3, but at this point might as well pull for Yanagi anyways.