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Voltan

Oh, btw - this is still the best musical performance ever recorded and I'll kick yo ass* if you say otherwise:

*in online Mortal Kombat 11

Voltan

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@nessisonett Where do you stand on Frank Zappa? Sorry if I've asked you before. Have you heard One Size Fits All? Highly recommended if you haven't. Brilliant jazz fusion/prog rock.

"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

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nessisonett

@TheBrandedSwordsman I’ve honestly never been a big fan. My brother’s into him but that particular sound just isn’t to my tastes really.

Plumbing’s just Lego innit. Water Lego.

Trans rights are human rights.

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@Voltan Which Mahavishnu albums do you have? Looking forward to you posting more jazz-metal!

"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

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Voltan

@TheBrandedSwordsman I got Birds of Fire and The Inner Mounting Flame. TBH I haven't listened to any of those in some time.
I was busy unitl late last night so I didn't post anything but I will this evening for sure.
Just finished recording some vocal harmonies in Finnish (which I don't speak and have no idea what the lyrics mean lol).

Voltan

nessisonett

@Voltan I got The Inner Mounting Flame sent by Amazon accidentally. I’d ordered a synthpop album from about 2012 😂

Plumbing’s just Lego innit. Water Lego.

Trans rights are human rights.

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@Voltan The person could have been singing about washing their underpants for all you know! How did you get the gig recording in Finnish?

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"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

PSN: Draco_V_Ecliptic

Voltan

@TheBrandedSwordsman I work with some Finnish musicians in one of my bands (see below) and one of them was asked to produce a song for someone and I got "hired" to work on the arrangement... which is most of the work tbh
Anyways - that included arranging harmonies for some parts of the song and it's all in Finnish. My vocals won't be featured in the final mix though, they will record an actual singer doing the same thing

Here's that band of mine - the singer and the guitarist are Finnish, the rest are Polish. I wrote and produced this myself, btw. Also made the video (my 1st ever After Effects project) - we're all DIY like that

Also, I failed to post the jazz stuff again... I promise I'll get to it

Voltan

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@Voltan Good stuff, really catchy song, heavy metal isn't it? Loved your keyboard work on the song, are you Polish yourself then? How did you meet the other guys in the band? Still looking forward to the jazz stuff!

"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

PSN: Draco_V_Ecliptic

Voltan

@TheBrandedSwordsman Yeah, I'm Polish. The band started here in Warsaw a looong time ago. Long story short - when our previous singer left the band, we had trouble finding someone to fill his shoes so we decided to contact a guy we found on the internet. Later I learned he was friends with a guitarist whose work I was familiar with, so when our original guitarist quit for personal reasons, I got him join too. Remote work is nothing new for metal bands tbh

Anyways, let's get started with some Arch Echo...

Nova Collective...

And Tigran Hamasyan's wild mix of jazz piano, Armenian folk, Indian Carnatic music and even modern metal to some extent

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Voltan

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@Voltan It's all great stuff but I don't know how I feel about mixing jazz and contemporary metal together, it's like the two styles are pushing in fundamentally different directions. On a side note, I have a headless Steinberger guitar like the guy in the first video, but mine has a smaller body. Headless guitars in jazz fusion started in the 70s with Allan Holdsworth and continued with bands like Paul Masvidal's Cynic. Are you a fan of either of those artists? Holdsworth had some dynamite keyboard players back in the day, especially on the album Atavachron. I think I am stuck somewhere in the 70s, bands like Mahavishnu Orchestra and some John Scofield and Bill Frisell took jazz and rock fusion as far as it could go at that time, and with the exceptions of acts like Last Exit and Frisell's work in Naked City I don't think jazz fusion works if it gets much heavier than Mahavishnu, and even though I say Naked City worked that's just because the metal of the time, 70s & 80s metal music, which they drew from throughout their career was about as far as they could get away with, mixing with jazz, and, yeah I am not so sure about djent and jazz, the creativity is there, though, the creativity is great.

Edit; Plus Naked City was overall an "experimental rock band project" and not deliberately setting out to be jazz fusion or jazz-core.

Edit 2: Nova Collective sounds a bit like a more relaxed version of Atheist on their Unquestionable Presence album ,which is excellent jazz-metal.

Edit 3: The last track was absolutely crazy, but I don't know how far we can get away with pushing the boundaries of music and still call it music, quite the mashup nonetheless.

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"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

PSN: Draco_V_Ecliptic

Voltan

> it's like the two styles are pushing in fundamentally different directions

See, I don't agree. Jazz and metal are both very expressive styles of music - jazz being mostly about expression through harmony and metal being all about dynamic contrasts and strong, very defined rhythms. I think they complement each other and I love hearing them together. And I actually like it when they take it to extremes sometimes
It's all a matter of personal taste though. I was definitely a metal fan first so there's that

I am familiar with Holdsworth and Cynic - great stuff.

I do have some "softer" stuff that goes in interesting directions too.
Like... GoGo Penguin - a traditional trio at a glance (piano, bass, drums) but doing something quite unique

The drum-focused but chill music of Richard Spaven

The melodic fusion of Lydian Collective:

and as bonus: these absolutely crazy people

Voltan

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@Voltan I love GoGoPenguin so thanks for posting that, yeah, fair enough, being a metal fan first and foremost definitely helps, so I can understand that. I remember when I first started listening to jazz after metal I was always excited whenever the occasional power chord was snuck into the melody (See one of the tracks, I forget which, on Grace Under Pressure by John Scofield, which features Bill Frisell, another notable jazz guitarist).

But no, I am sure that I am a jazz-head first and foremost now, and 70s jazz fusion is about as far as I am willing to go when it comes to mixing jazz with rock or metal, except in the case of Naked City, who I presume you've also heard?

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"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

PSN: Draco_V_Ecliptic

Voltan

It's new vinyl day!

Untitled

I need to buy more shelves 😩

Voltan

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@Voltan I also got vinyl in the post today - Angel Bat Dawid & The Brothahood - LIVE. Great jazz record.

"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

PSN: Draco_V_Ecliptic

Voltan

@TheBrandedSwordsman I'll check that out - and yeah, I'm familiar with Naked City and John Zorn in general but I'm not sure it's my thing

Voltan

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@Voltan Up there with Frank Zappa's One Size Fits All for my favourite records of all time. You must be a Zappa fan yourself as a musician? Besides the lyrics, a lot of it is really musicians' music. Check it out as well if you haven't heard it already.

"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

PSN: Draco_V_Ecliptic

BlAcK_Sw0rDsMaN

@nessisonett I thought you would be the best person to ask about this 'cause I can't find it anywhere. Any good albums that mix soul music with rock if that's even possible? Also, your top 5 jazz-rock fusion albums?

"Even in the face of death, the samurai stands unwavering, for honour is a blade sharper than steel".

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maryeddington

I can't live without music. And I listen for very different genres. Mostly I love old jazz. And i enjoy hip-hop and rock music a lot.
Now I listen to all albums of TOP for the hundredth time. Love their style

I'm Mary and I love painting, plants, and people.

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