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Th3solution

@RogerRoger Very interesting! I’d like to think they consulted the Push Square forums for ideas and direction on their articles, but it appears they were close but not quite in line with my personal rankings. I’d flip the top two and put Prisoner #1 and Goblet #2 or #3 maybe. And I’d move Order about 2-3 spots down. Other than that, they are pretty in line with my thinking. I actually haven’t watched Crimes of Grindewald for a second time yet, but based on my one viewing in the theater I’d probably agree that it’s at the bottom. That opinion may change after a rewatch.
Did they get the Bond films right? 😄
Honestly, I think the collective expertise on this forum probably trumps most of the professional periodicals in terms of sheer insight and accuracy of critique.

On a separate but related note - I have begun my rapid sojourn through my next movie series, the 22 MCU films. I started with Cap America First Avenger, then Cap Marvel, then Iron Man, followed by Iron Man 2. I’m following a recommended order I saw online that follows the chronology and the themes in a way that makes the most sense (Cap Marvel being second overall because of it when the story takes place). The next one will be The Incredible Hulk, a movie I saw only once several years ago. I won’t bore everyone to tears with a break down of each film, but some basic unexpected impressions I have are that Cap America TFA is much worse than I remembered and Iron Man 2 is much better than I remember. Mickey Rourke was quite exceptional as the villain. Also, it’s quite awkward seeing Tony Stark flirt with Black Widow in this film, knowing who their relationship evolves in the later movies.

I’ll post more impressions in broad strokes going forward every 5 or so films.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

FullbringIchigo

@RogerRoger hey did you see the latest Bond news by the way?

Apparently in the next Bond film James has retired and there is a new 007 played by Lashana Lynch

that's actually really interesting, it's something the series has never done before, a James Bond film and he ISN'T 007

i'm pleasantly intrigued

i also wonder if even if she is 007 in this film will she be filling the "Bond Girl" role in the movie?

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

FullbringIchigo

@RogerRoger another thing is that by recasting 007 instead of recasting James Bond it opens it up for so many potential people to play 007 plus it also means the series wont need to be rebooted again because they would all share continuity

there is also the fact that she hasn't really done any lead roles in films before (and only a few in TV) and to be honest she wasn't that memorable in Captain Marvel either, she seems to be a person who plays supporting roles or one off's so it could be a one time thing just for this movie

and apparently her characters name is Nomi

i still think Idris Elba should be the next 007 and now this film has set the precedence of more than one person holding the number there shouldn't be any real issues with it, he doesn't have to be called James Bond after all

EDIT: also i think at the end of the 25th 007 film that Bond should become the next "M" and then we get the new 007 to lead future films, that way we still get fresh blood but still have Bond in them and keep continuity with the other Daniel Craig films

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"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

RR529

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (Netflix) - Watched this last night and it was a really fun time. It was definitely a visual spectacle (I really liked how it avoided the homogenized look Disney, Pixar, Dreamworks, and other western CG productions have), and it had some fun characters.

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FullbringIchigo

@RogerRoger if they killed off Bond that would cause an uproar unless they are planing to reboot again after this film then it's a none issue

still as much as i love Bond it's been going a long time and over the past few films has not really blown cinema away, not to mention the switching around of distributors and the lack of interest from investors (hence why the last film had so many sponsorship deals) so maybe it is time to kill him off and stop at least for a while, come back in about 10 years with a new, fresh take

but then again a few months back Daniel Craig said he would be up to doing another after 25 so maybe they wont kill him off

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

FullbringIchigo

@RogerRoger yeah but that was because it was an uncredited cameo so he couldn't confirm it until after the film was released

of course they could kill him off and then skip forward 10 years and then BOOM his kid James Bond JR comes in or something

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

FullbringIchigo

@RogerRoger i remember that show

but basically yes like that

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

kyleforrester87

@Ralizah @jacobia So I saw Midsommar on Saturday, I don’t really have it in me to try to put together an in-depth review but I can say I absolutely loved it. It was basically what I thought it might be, but was worried it wouldn’t be. In a lot of ways it was felt like my favourite part of Hereditary, the very end, drawn out over the entire film. The music and visuals were stunning, I’m glad I saw it at the cinema. The upside down, twisting camera going into the site was a touch of dizzying magic. Wonderful sense of beautiful dream meets dreadful nightmare throughout.

Niggles...

The use of the heavily made up “disabled freak” seemed a bit cheap. And do we really believe Dani was so angry at Chris that she’d choose to send him to his death? I dunno, it makes for a cool ending and I’m fine with that, but with everything she went through I still think she’d more likely have been either an uncontrollable mess or outta there. I will also say that while Chris was made to look like an unloving jerk, I was had sympathy for his character - he was young, not really getting what he wanted from the relationship, Dani had baggage and he might have been on the cusp of ending it for both of their sake before she lost her family - her despair when she found out about that was crushing. He wasn’t the support she needed, and she found it with the cult in the end, but he wasn’t such a bad egg. But then he did bang that other lass while forgetting her birthday so what do I know about relationships.

Not everyone was happy though. Overheard one girl on the way out say to her partner “I was just waiting for something to happen and it never did”, and he goes “Thats 3 hours we won’t get back”. Did we watch the same movie?!

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kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

Ralizah

@kyleforrester87 Glad you liked it! Yeah, that upside down camera was a wonderful touch. Really communicated the idea that the characters were entering a space where ordinary social conventions and expectations don't apply.

I don't think it was really about anger with Dani. I think Chris was the last link she had to a world that she had otherwise fully left behind at that point. While it's a bit grotesque, I think condemning him to be a sacrifice was that last step on the path she had been walking the entire film. The film has a lot to say about relationships, family, and, if you think about it, the ways in which an ordinary person might become susceptible to the charms and wiles of cults and other extreme fringe groups, which is something that always seems to baffle ordinary people. It's one thing to say "extremist groups and cults prey on and isolate vulnerable people." It's another to see Dani go from a reasonably well-adjusted American college girl to a member of a Swedish pagan cult.

Regarding Chris: I didn't really have a problem with him, either. It's really not his obligation to babysit a woman he has been dating but isn't really into in the first place, so I do give him credit for sticking with Dani after the unspeakably tragic thing that happened to her family. And, as far as his "cheating" is concerned, he was drugged and co-erced into a sexual encounter. To me, it's no morally different from ordinary date rape. I don't see any scenario where Chris is anything other than a victim in this narrative, regardless of how good or bad of a boyfriend he may or may not have been.

BTW, how did your theater react to the sex scene near the end? I don't think I've ever heard quite so much laughter before. It particularly took off once the older woman started pushing on his buttocks. While it was a genuinely bizarre scene that I also laughed at, I do think it's clear that the laughter was also the theater's way of relieving tension after nearly two hours of gradually ratcheting unease.

Ugh. Men.

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kyleforrester87

@Ralizah oh yeah, lots of laughing, which was understandable. But then 2 girls behind me got the giggles and wouldn’t stop, even when Dani and the other laddies were screaming at each other, which got a bit annoying!

I will say, despite how much I enjoyed it - it’s probably going to be one of my favourite films come to think of it - I am not desperate to see it again in a hurry. Some of that is down to its long run time. We’ll see in a few months, though. I have seen Bladerunner 2049 a few times in the past year and I always enjoy it and that’s a bit of a commitment too, although less of an emotional drag. I’d like a version of it with the same mood where everyone just has a nice time for 3 hours, frankly.

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kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

Ralizah

@kyleforrester87 The thing for me is that I don't really "watch" movies like this so much as experience them. So emotionally resonant or intense experiences like Midsommar are very draining for me, and I rarely rewatch them. Some of my all-time favorite films I've only seen once, to be perfectly honest. Whereas B-movies with no emotional resonance are easy to digest, and I rewatch them frequently when I find them on TV. It's probably why I've seen the hilariously bad 90's Judge Dredd film so many times over the years.

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Ugh. Men.

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kyleforrester87

@Ralizah lol I nearly mentioned Dredd as an example of a film I can watch multiple times. Of course, I meant the new one, which on balance is probably my “favourite” film if I had to pick one. I can’t really tolerate the 90s one haha

kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

Ralizah

@kyleforrester87 Oh man, I still need to watch the newer one. Never got around to it. I've heard it's a very decent action movie, though.

I can't blame anyone for not wanting to watch the 90's film. It's objectively awful. I love it, though. It's like cinematic junk food. I know I shouldn't be watching it, but it's addictive and I'm going to 'consume' it regardless of what I should be doing.

Action movies are great at being low-investment (emotionally speaking) wastes of time. I've also seen Die Hard, Die Hard With a Vengeance, and Kill Bill Vol. 1 (pretty much the only Tarantino film I've gotten on with, to be perfectly honest) more times than I can count. Those are all fantastic action movies, and it's hard not to watch them when I come across them.

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Ugh. Men.

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kyleforrester87

@Ralizah oh man watch the new one and let me know what you think. It does what it sets out to do pretty much flawlessly. Karl Urban is so cool.

“What happened in there?”

“Drug bust.”

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kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

RR529

Papillon (DVD) - True story from the 1930's that sees a Parisan thief framed for a murder he didn't commit and sent to a penal colony in French Guiana that was famed for being inescapable. I won't spoil the ending, but the film chronicles all the escape attemps he made over the years. Given the subject material the film can be quite a bit raw & gritty, but I thought it was an interesting watch and was really into it. I know there was an older version, but this was a more recent adaptation (Raimi Malek, the guy who played Freddie Mercury in last year's Bohemian Rhapsody, had a prominent role).

the LEGO Batman Movie (TNT) - It's not often I catch a full movie on cable (commercials & all that), but I had the time this afternoon and caught it just as it was starting so I figured what the heck. I actually had a lot of fun watching this. It got a little chaotic during the climax, but it was a good time overall and is one of the few movies I've seen in recent times that has legitimately made me laugh. Much like Spider-Man: Into the Spider Verse, it's a bit of a breath of fresh air compared to both contemporary superhero flicks & typical western CGI cartoons (though I know there've been a couple of other movies with the LEGO aesthetic).

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FullbringIchigo

@WanderingBullet i still don't get how Jane Foster can gain the power of Thor if Mjolnir was destroyed in Ragnarok unless she is either A: from another timeline or B: from another universe or C: they get another Mjolnir from another timeline/universe

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

WanderingBullet

@FullbringIchigo Oh, you make an interesting point. Did they actually confirmed her character was going to wield Mjolnir? I kept thinking about how she's gonna be female Thor when stature wise she's kinda small that I didn't think about hammer part. The multiverse part would work cause Dr. Strange 2 is apparently about the multiverse as the title suggests.

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Huntin' monsters erryday.

FullbringIchigo

@WanderingBullet yes they did confirm she will be Wielding Mjolnir

also Strange 2 has a lot of promise with a title like that but on the flip side it could overload the entire franchise, they need to be REAL careful doing that kind of thing

"I pity you. You just don't get it at all...there's not a thing I don't cherish!"

"Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!

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