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Ravix

@GirlVersusGame I think I understand a little better now. I did not know there was a distinct difference between the home and away. But your rebellion was when you were home and your situation is different now. Covid was actually quite a long time ago, now. Crazy to think about, really. So I have kind of been mixing up different aspects from family and relationship, I think.

It was still entertaining to read of the rebellion at home, and it got you laughing, so it was well worth exploring those thoughts ๐Ÿ˜ a laugh is always worth having. But yeah, different rules now.

I also haven't gamed all week. I think I only played Ghost of Yotei two or three times since getting back from being away for a while a few weeks ago. I don't think I will ever finish the damn thing if I never play anything ๐Ÿ™ˆ


Yeah, I briefly saw that money aspect mentioned, that move seemed shocking and exploitative. It shouldn't matter who has what, or whether there is a positive intention or not (likely it was deception anyway), but either way it is not up to them to initiate that move of asking like that, as it is not their right. If it was genuinely some noble cause that mattered to them i'm sure they would have already been getting on and doing something about it because that is what people do. And what happens after that is 'up to the gods' I don't know how to best put it.


And yeah, the interactions we have had showed me it has mostly been a language thing, and a me thing, and it is still a world way out of my pay grade. So we can basically disregard most of what I previously had said. I was attributing certain things to the insomnia and staying awake late, and a few of the themes discussed were initially triggering that response in me. I think now I have finally kind of explained in my post above, in as best a way as I can, why those things really do trigger that sense in me when see certain things are mentioned.

Because that... that was my 24/7 thing, and that is how I lived a portion of my life, and sometimes I wasn't good enough at it.

You know, after all the music and nostalgia, typing that last part is the first thing to give me a wet face. Thankfully no makeup to smudge. Yeah... (I will also read more if you add more, i've already paused enough, long pauses dom't really come across ina comment, and since my last sentence, I have both let my face dry and re-wet it twice)

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Tjuz

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Tjuz

GirlVersusGame

@Tjuz Hi Tjuz I hope you had a good a weekend, I'm definitely going to read through this and reply with the help of morning coffee, thank you. Four in the AM is about ten minutes away.

I have my coffee and I'll read what you said but I need to mention something and it will sound crazy but it relates to my theory of what wealth actually can do to the mind. It focuses primarily on empathy.

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Ravix

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FuriousMachine

Both this and The Music Thread got completely away from me, so if anyone directed something @ me and I didn't answer, it is not a snub! I just couldn't keep up

FuriousMachine

Tjuz

@GirlVersusGame Just edited my comment to include my full response! Hope it's not getting in the way of your already replying, haha. And no worries, I'll happily read whatever you have to say whenever you say it!

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@Ravix Haha, don't make me blush! I think all it takes to have a good conversation with someone on the internet is a genuine interest, and that's the same vibe I'm getting from you. Whether you feel you write as well or not, it's all that matters.

You have my permission to call me a "basic b---"" as that is unapologetically what I am! Maybe I will post her in the Music Thread. I just always feel so incredibly out of place in that thread as I know the type of music I listen to is generally not what many on here would be into, haha. "Hold Me Closer" is fantastic! I'm probably less of a Eurovision gay than you are (๐Ÿ˜‰), but that one has definitely stuck with me. Great taste!

The concept of Romans but with an emo look made me chuckle. Hilarious to think of them like that. Maybe when you were presented with the choice you just didn't have enough liquid persuasion yet? Just kidding, it's good that you were able to tell your boundaries and that this wasn't for you! Better than leading someone on only for you to later realise it's not what you're looking for. Must've broken this poor guy's heart either way! (If emos have heart that is...?) Yup, the whole counter-argument you mentioned where you'll ask a person when they chose to be straight is my go-to as well. I don't remember signing any forms turning me gay, but maybe I was under the influence when I signed it. I love that you faux-flirted with people like that just to make them uncomfortable. Dangerous for you in the moment maybe if you did it with the wrong person, but that's a good ally if I ever saw one! I think what I can appreciate the most in a straight person in terms of sexuality is not that they simply are accepting, but when they feel confident enough in their own masculinity that they would do stuff like that because they know it doesn't change anything about them and their preferences. I have a friend like that who will happily act stereotypically gay with me and totally go for it in the moments where we think it's fun to. We both know that's not the type of person he is, but he's not afraid to go there if the situation calls for it. I think there's nothing more masculine than someone who is happy to do that, because it shows that they're comfortable enough with their own identity that they don't need to constantly show it off to prove to people how masculine they are. That's just insecurity.

In terms of what you said regarding not always being emo though, of course that makes total sense. It also does when you put it in the context you put it in where this mostly comes out on late nights where you're all together. You're in a safe space then to truly be yourself and out how you feel. You're right, those are the moments where all the best deep talks happen and connections form! That said, I will now imagine you in my head giggling with the typical emo fringe reading my comments whenever I make a joke. You might not actually laugh at all of my jokes, but it's the narrative I'm choosing to go with.

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Tjuz

GirlVersusGame

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GirlVersusGame

@FuriousMachine I think you are safe, we talked for hours back and forth between the two threads. Music until the sun came up.

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Ravix

@Tjuz

Oh no... So my first thought was it was going to be a strangley similar feeling song to Cornelia Jakobs, albeit a different style, which threw me at the start because of the proximity of me mentioning her, but then it only took a few seconds listening to be like... oh... f***. Yeah... So I was not prepared for that. And it may have also given me a wet face.

I've moved this to chit-chat as I feel it is far more than just music, and it gives me a chance to perk up by then replying to the other stuff.

But, damn. That rocked me. And then the ending where she is basically breaking down as it fades out... just in case the ol' face isn't wet enough.

So yeah, what you have shown me is the essence of what I consider emo, but in pop form. Some Emo is poser emo, some is devastatingly open and soul rendering. This is soul rendering. That is not basic at all, b****! You absolutely tricked me ๐Ÿ˜ซ

Anyway... Composure recovered. Never feel you would be out of place in the music section, you posting may encourage a new user to come forward and talk about what they like, you never know. And if not, no great loss, I might check stuff out if i' tagged. I'm going to post Cornelia Jakobs after anyway, as that will basically sound lile butterflies and candyfloss when compared to Xana ๐Ÿซฅ

Imagine away. I did try the fringe thing once upon a time, and hair straighteners were used for a period. Weirdly unexpected flashbacks to the feel and smell of that. But as in all things, I just don't have the patience or desire to present any full image, just to be me however I feel like being. I did enjoy hair dye and black nail varnish though ๐Ÿ˜„

Oh, yes. I am basically the ultimate man, kind of you to point it out ๐Ÿซก It must be declared from rooftops at least twice monthly! And no, we will never know what could have happened, maybe one more shot of sambuca, one more 'slippery-nipple' and i'm sat here on a throne of men, with a few pet emo chick's crawling around doing my bidding. We will never know. We will never know ๐Ÿ˜›

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How's that for a power dynamic ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ it was worth seeing what AI came up with for that, it really was ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

So that is me generally brushing off anything positive being said with humour. But, I appreciate your words. I'm glad that you have someone that is like that, that you can be ultimately free around and that has your back like that. So much so that it gladdens even my black heart ๐Ÿ–ค

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When it seems you're out of luck.
There's just one man who gives a f*************ck
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GirlVersusGame

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Ravix

@GirlVersusGame did you manage to get some decent sleep and return to more of a normal routine?

I feel like there was something else I thought of, but i'm a bit distracted now and my mind has voided itself of anything of value.

Maybe it was that hopefully you saw me thanking you for the latest interaction, as I did want you to know that I am grateful for that. But I have been kind of mixing everything up we talked about into this combined mess of the genuine and the slightly less serious, which is hard enough for me to understand in native English as i'm writing it, and must be a nightmare for a non-native. I maybe shouldn't mix up my tone so frequently, but again "life is a joke" so even when I am trying to have a normal conversation, I can't help twist it or frame it in a way that amuses me or keeps me from getting too bored of my own words, or overly emotional. Plus we were talking about like 3/4 different things all at once.

I should have ended with the question, rather than start. Oh well. Fin

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There's just one man who gives a f*************ck
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GirlVersusGame

@Ravix I did finally and even slept when we went out last night, I slept through two hours of people talking, drinking, etc, then W/we went home and I slept again so I definitely caught back up. I don't really mind a combined mess, it's something I can slowly unravel if I actually dedicate the time to doing it. I think that's part of it too, I have the option to do it and no one's telling me to do it. Also you might think your dictation or phraseology might go off the rails, talk to a hacker boy for any length of time. I'd almost call that a language, sometimes it feels like morse code. I really enjoyed our conversation, and odd as it sounds but the music helped to follow it too because when we were talking about bands like Hawthorne Heights I understood what you meant, or Alkaline Trio's Burn, it was a kind of language we both already had, music is really powerful like that. A genre like Emo/Screamo is very direct, it's hard to mix meaning when someone is pouring their heart out or screaming their heart out. I applied what I'd felt with those bands all those years ago and then instantly got what you were saying.

I want to be careful how I say this too but when you mentioned a wet face I thought that it was a good thing, not because I got something out of knowing you were upset. I mean because you were obviously holding onto something tightly and I've never once seen anything good come from constantly bottling up emotions. Especially for guys, I'd never seen a grown man cry until that night and he wasn't one of us. I haven't seen one cry since. At funerals they shed tears behind sun glasses, I know what they are doing but the macho image is to be tough. I don't see crying as a weakness, I see it as something the body naturally does when it needs to. You needed to, I wouldn't think anything less of someone displaying something so human.

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Ravix

@GirlVersusGame well, this is good news then, and worth a celebration! Back to normality, however weird that may be for us! ๐Ÿฅ‚

I totally agree, wet face was probably required, and little overdue. It used to maybe be a more common thing, but it does refresh and reset the mind and put things into perspective. Talking in tongues, talking in code, that maybe also helps. I feel like we had a base understanding at that moment though, I agree. I did eventually veer away from the more upsetting aspects of that period, as my mood lifted and I lingered less, and it is really not gaming forum friendly to delve too deep into that, either. But I feel we understand the kind of feelings that are prominent within the community of us that do listen to this kind of music, especially in our formative years as we traverse our own complicated lives and relationships. I don't even want to use the Internet standard phrases for some of those specific things, tbh, as they deserve more respect than shorthand, but also maybe it is best to be keeping some of those things hidden from a gaming forum for people of all ages. But our minds all have scars that need time to heal. (Maybe I should have used a lyric here, but there would be too many to choose from)

I suppose the same can be said for the other topic we touched on. Although for you, like you say, it is a more '24/7' thing, and it is me that is a mere amateur in comparison. But to that topic I say, "Avert thine eyes, those of you that do not want their innocent minds poisoned by our words" ๐Ÿ™ˆ

I still kind of hope @Tjuz finds the little jokes I peppered in for them to find, though. I thought it would break the 4th wall nicely if they were still reading through the comment, as I had combined my responses to you both in the same body of text anyway. And I really can't help being very silly.

I'm sure there are times we will return to similar talks, I can't deny my deepest workings are still the same as they always were. I have maybe spent too much time masking some of that in my life for various reasons, but honestly my normal is weird (obviously) my normal is overly emotional (tick) and my normal is me. And I wouldn't change that. (Some may wish I would ๐Ÿ˜›)

I never know how to end long comments...

As you were.

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There's just one man who gives a f*************ck
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GirlVersusGame

@Ravix It's going to be hard to understand this but the people around me speak in a code too, you might call it slang but it has a different meaning. I read languages and mannerisms, all day long and people are just people. I will say this, if someone told me that speaking about their emotions was 'talking in tongues', I'd be concerned because I'd translate that as 'they so rarely address those issues that the near mention of it becomes supernatural and outside their normal reality'. I do agree with why it might seem 'avert thine eyes' but I see that dynamic as more about the mind not the body, I don't sexualize it like bad movies. It's not theatrics, it's something I respect and never take for granted. My Partner would have a different take on it and my Ex would say something completely different because to him Ownership meant something more primal, that's where wires get crossed and any hope of educating through an alternative relationship goes out the window. It's why things stay taboo in the shadows and frightens people away from trying new things.

Like a videogame the one with that girl with all of the sexual costumes and the black hair, should I not play it because of her clothes? should I not talk about it because of those poses? It's probably a good game but if I let first appearances rule my life I'll never learn anything. I picked up most of your jokes after I went back and carefully filed through each conversation, the lyrics were a lot more obvious and a kind of shared experience if that makes sense. I may not have gotten to see Underoath play this weekend but in a way I did and it was a with a friend.

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Ravix

@GirlVersusGame regarding talking in tongues and code, I generally just meant us on here, keeping it weird and obtuse for the sake of anyone on the forum that it might be too heavy for if they casually see certain words or themes. Some of the topics are not for everyone for 2 very different reasons. But I felt we were still understanding each other despite that. For example, it is why I didn't quote the full lyrics when I said maybe you're a vampire in relation to the lack of sleep, as that song is brutal and unrelated in the most part to my meaning at that specific time, but it does actually focus on some of the other heavy things that we were eluding to at other times, too. Hence it is kind of code.

In relation to me, personally, it is less code, more avoidance, at times. But in my most natural state well... I open up, like the back of a book. I ruin everything with just a quick look

I don't think I will ever mention that video game again, or anything about what people say about it on any side, as it will only get me in trouble ๐Ÿ˜… everyone is so quick to descend into finger pointing and looking for reasons to dismiss things though. A similar thing happened to Hogwarts Legacy. KCD. All sorts of games, but that one you mention was extra overblown. The best example overall is KCD and KCDII, ironically. As that happened both ways. The first was apparently bad for one extreme. The second apparently bad for another extreme. And i'm in the middle thinking, they are just games they want to make, not some kind of evil plot against people each time. Most of society (it seems) now look for evil where there is none. But I suppose that comes after years of society not noticing that there was sometimes evil that was right in front of them. Maybe one day society finds a balance between the two.

I am glad that you, in a way, got to see Underรธath. And if there was an echo in here, then surely I would echo that. If there was indeed something to echo, of course.

Encore

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GirlVersusGame

@Ravix Conjure One said it best.

Without sleep there are no dreams
Without dreams, we fall apart at the seams

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Ravix

@GirlVersusGame I am not familiar with this one. But hopefully it is only me doing any falling apart at the aforementioned seams, lately.

(Here I go off on one) the fact you mentioned seams is incredibly coincidental, as earlier yesterday evening I had some music on chilling, and was kind of half drifting off, and it triggered some really vivid and minutely specific memories that led to more memories still in this wave of almost visual feeling. And actual physical seams were part of the first memory in such an obscure way (I have weird relationships and you couldn't even guess). Also i'm going to be utterly obtuse, as it is such a specific, unique and intimate memory of a very pure, loving and deeply personal interaction shared with another, but this also led to this really awkward and hilarious memory which i'd love to turn into a full anecdote because I live for the awkward, weird, and I think that part of it is actually quite funny ๐Ÿ™ˆ

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GirlVersusGame

@Ravix Oh so if you've heard of Delirium? It's the same frontman/project, he moved onto his next project after a couple of years later and that was Conjure One. You've probably heard Silence by Delirium at some point, it's definitely been used for different kinds of media. Above were lyrics from his self titled album 'Conjure One', the song is called 'sleep', I always liked that particular line because it true's you need sleep to dream and without dreams we have nothing to really aim for. It's not my favorite's of his, that would be 'Extraordinary Ways' from the album of the same name. It's about if even if you have nothing of shiny value you still have something to offer someone. I think the message is that you don't always need things to be happy, and that you can treasure something that means everything to you and nothing to everyone else. Center of the Sun is good too, I'd definitely be surprised if you never heard that Delirium track before. It also features Sara McLachlan. I don't listen to a lot of ambient music but those too stick out and Moby has it's moment, Orbital aren't bad too but seem more ravey.

I understand drifting off, I lose hours drifting off. I don't think it's a bad thing, sometimes it's good to just give your mind a vacation. Maybe that's why I don't take physical vacations, if my mind can do that then the calm? and relaxation? that a vacation brings isn't all that far away. In such a way inner peace becomes just a button push or snap of the fingers away, I don't know that people seek inner peace all that often, the external world seems to drown so much of that out. I'm not surprised you felt any of that, music can release dopamine which will naturally leads to triggering very real memories, I don't think I know even one piece of music that I can't trace back to some moment, if it feels good it sort of imprints that music/rhythm and upon playback that same imprint gets called up. At least that's how it works for me. I have a really particular and exploratory question for you, what's the longest amount of time you've spent inside without going outside? not a garden, but groceries/etc. Also minus lockdown, just under normal conditions. Call it a scientific inquiry.

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