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HallowMoonshadow

Here's hoping it's just the more uncommon symptoms of a cold or some other common bug. Like Ral says stay well rested and hydrated and try not to think about it too much.

I had to take some time off a few weeks back with it thankfully turning out to be just the flu @RR529 and hopefully it'll be something similar!

Get well soon!

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Octane

I think we're screwed either way. The amount of people I've encountered who think vaccines are some kind of government scheme is mind-boggling. Today there was a guy preaching outside the supermarket about how vaccines will see artificial shortages, but since they've been saving ''our DNA'' for at least 10 years, this will all be fake, and ''they'' will inject you will all kinds of things, including chips and hormones.

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themcnoisy

@Octane I think it's fair and healthy to be skeptical about most things. But these nutters take it to another level, imo it's similar to religious street preachers. Waxing lyrical about nonesense.

There's another side to this though, governments have seemingly been acting against our best interests for years favouring Boomers. We all know family time is important, yet we are expected to work longer than the previous generations. We pay through the nose for university, it used to be funded. Getting a mortgage is now a life sacrifice. Old fogeys are camped in 5 bedroom houses whilst a family of 4 makes do with a 2 bedroom terrace. Triple locked government pensions at 60 and gold plated private pensions whilst our generation work for eternity and have to pay our own company pensions.

This has piqued with covid-19 and it's a controversial point, we are stopping the world to save old folk from covid now we know how coronavirus operates. The same people who have enacted these massively unfair social issues. I'm not condoning this demographic to death btw but I can absolutely understand why a huge majority of under 50s want off this boat. The lack of compassion for the elderly is understandable when real hurdles have been put in place by people who have had a more fruitful and less stressful life. They sit at home in their own home, a grand a month and private pension money rolling in. Joe Bloggs just redundant has to make do with Job seekers allowance and permathreatened eviction.

The argument for the second lockdown can be summarised, to save old people. The vaccine, to save old people. The mass damage to the economy, to save old people.

So when collateral damage occurs to someone not within this demographic, wherever that's something as stupid as not being able to go for a pint or go to the match up to more serious issues like being made redundant or having cancer treatment rescheduled, then absolutely people have more than enough reason to preach.

This is where the arguement gets lost and metamorphosised into a preacher talking about vaccines being chips. There is a real arguement to be had on the fairness of society and why younger people have again being asked to forfeit their own lives for generations seeing the twilight of theirs.

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nessisonett

@themcnoisy Yeesh, I forgot you lot down south have to pay for Uni, there’s absolutely no way I could have gone otherwise. Makes me happy to live in a country with all those commie socialist policies that make the lazy left sit on their arses while the good old hard working pensioners have paid their dues 😉

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zupertramp

@themcnoisy not gonna lie, I've never seen it put this way. over here the argument is simply "but my liberty." then you turn around and elucidate a fairly reasonable point. so thanks for that.

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RR529

Thanks for the well wishes everyone.

Had a pretty scary "bowel movement" earlier this morning (I was suddenly drenched in sweat and felt like I could pass out at any moment), but things have started to get better since then. Checked my temperature as soon as I was done & it had dropped to 99.8, took a bit of a nap & felt well enough to play my game for a bit. Just checked my temp again and it's at 99.2.

I still feel a bit fatigued & have a slight headache, but it seems all a bit better. If I'm lucky maybe I just have a 24 hour stomach bug

Though just in case (and for future use if need be) I'm having Amazon overnight a pulse oximeter.

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Octane

@themcnoisy Yeah, I'm aware of it. Once I'm done next year, I'll have a €100.000 debt. Try getting a mortgage with that..!

I don't it's necessarily to save the elderly though, hospitals are filling up. My mom has a non-emergency surgery planned, but it has been postponed for several months, because they can't handle it at the moment. Meanwhile, most elderly are dying in nursery homes over here. It's mostly about saving the healthy 40-70 year-olds a who do get seriously sick from it.

It's just kinda baffling how people can be this way. I've heard a person say he was skeptical about what's in a vaccine, while doing drugs pretty much every month. Like he's suddenly the expert of what goes into those XTC pills

It's good to be skeptical, but these things are regulated to no end in the EU. And the idea that the government wants to "poison" or "kill" its country's population is just too absurd to even begin to counter. These people have never taken a history or economy lesson, because even if you're running a malicious government, there are far more effective ways of doing so.

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@nessisonett I knew I should've moved to Scotland. Unicorns, goblins and leprechauns. Or was that Ireland?

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nessisonett

@Octane Our national animal is apparently the unicorn. Probably says a lot that our national animal is fictional. Should be a Greggs steak bake. Or chips and gravy.

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themcnoisy

@nessisonett the university debt burden is a scandal. I left in 2002 with a £17,000 debt (checking an inflation calculator that's exactly £27837) as I had to part pay my course prior to full self funding. I struggled mentally as the thought of it was horrendous and when does anyone have a grand or two spare from a working class background?

Our weekend administrator left Uni last year with £45,000 worth of debt. That figure is mindboggling to me. It's an absolute weight on her shoulders and I can't envisage how you can even start making inroads into such an amount at 23/24 in a 20k a year job without parental support.


@zupertramp Ironically I called for the initial lockdown way back when and I still think proper lockdowns are the best way to control the spread. I'm playing devils advocate trying to explain the odd behaviour we see in the wild.


@Octane same people who won't download the test and trace app, as they've seen a post on Facebook about how the government are tracking you. Oh the irony.

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RogerRoger

@RR529 How are you feeling today? Fingers crossed that you've improved overnight, and that you're able to send whatever it is packing soon.

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RR529

@RogerRoger, I feel a lot better today, so I think it was just a 24 hour bug. My father did something similar last weekend (though it didn't upset his stomach, so he just took it as a bad cold), and so thinks it's the same thing.

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RogerRoger

@RR529 Good to hear; not that you had a horrible thing, of course, but that it didn't develop into anything more sinister. Hope you're fully recovered soon!

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nessisonett

And that’s both my council area and wider Glasgow gone into Tier 4! Honestly, my mum’s lowkey chuffed with going onto three weeks furlough, she hasn’t had a holiday in a while and she wasn’t going to have one until Christmas. The money works out actually better for us as well, the 80% works out more than the 100% minus travel and food costs. People round here are idiots though, completely ignoring the advice and trying to get in one last spreader event before going into lockdown. If everyone just adhered to the rules then there wouldn’t need to be another lockdown, it’s just stupid.

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nessisonett

Interesting to see that after several reports, NLife has deemed a user spreading literal misinformation about Covid perfectly OK. The user linked to a site that sells ‘supplements’ peddling several well-known and debunked alternative science about masks causing more harm than good. I know that site’s got outright bigots and chest-thumping Trump defenders coming out the wazoo but you’d think they would draw the line somewhere.

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zupertramp

Father of 27 year old nurse who died recently from my area:

“It’s no joke. It’s no joke. I myself didn’t believe in it because working up north, we don’t wear masks in the drilling field. But here it’s different."

Lol, he didn't believe in it?! Like it's a ghost story, or some obscure religious tenet or freaking Santa Clause!

Truth is we had a chance to respond to this like rational adults. We really really did. Especially given the medical advances we've made since 1918 and given we're living in the information age. I mean, in the entire history of the human race we've never had more knowledge than we do right now. And we've still botched this.

So it's hard to hold too much a grudge toward NLife. But maybe just seeing the absolute zero fs given over Thanksgiving, my pessimism is at an all time high.

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nessisonett

@zupertramp To be fair, I saw a video today of the most powerful man in the world sh*t himself live on air. We might have access to lots of information but if you only get it from one increasingly desperate source then it’s bound to be skewed.

@Arugula I wouldn’t say the UK have handled it well by any stretch of the matter but we do now sorta have functioning tiers. I have two weeks left in Tier 4, only essential shops open and no travel out of your council area. It makes sense, we really don’t need to go anywhere and we can still order online shopping. There are worse ways to handle the situation.

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zupertramp

@nessisonett I have to be honest and admit I have no idea to what you're referring.

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zupertramp

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/salem-n...

And this is just the one nurse dumb enough to post on the internet. At least she only works in oncology... 😱

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nessisonett

@zupertramp I think the scary thing is that they brag about these things like it’s something to be proud of. Which is just plain batty.

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