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Topic: Returnal

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Just2Milky

@Quintumply Nice one! I agree, I don’t think anything will pass this year will Returnal in terms of gameplay & haptics/triggers.

“I’m a really good lawyer.”
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“One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them; In the Land of Mordor where the shadows lie.”

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@Quintumply Woohhoooo well done!! It's a great one to bag. Totally agreed as well, best game of the year by a long stretch.

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Tatarimokke

Hello everyone:)

Played the game yesterday for the first time and i really enjoyed it for a while. Then i got frustrated because i died around 7-8 times at around 50 percent of the first biome. The game throwed me some fungal green monsters and some huge leaping monsters at the same time and that was the end for me. I felt I am not good enough for this game. I mean a love hard games played all the souls games and Sekiro and Nioh several times but this one is something different. I don't feel i'm getting better. I really want to go back to play it but i'm afraid I'm just going to die again at the same place after played an hour or two. And this is just the first biome, no bosses nothing just single enemies... I don't feel i made any progression so far. Should i go back or should i just give it up? I hate to give up things that early but this one...i don't know... How was your first hours in the game?

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Thrillho

@Tatarimokke The early game is tough! You have a pretty limited range of weapons and they're pretty low level so don't have much extra punch.

It's worth trying out as many of the guns as possible though as any progress towards unlocking new alt-fire methods, traits etc carries over between runs and sometimes all it takes is picking up a weapon with a combo of traits you like to make the difference between a successful run and a failed one.

I really recommend using melee a lot in the early biome too. It can one hit kill a lot of smaller enemies and can be really useful to stagger big ones or to take a good chunk of health of them once staggered.

Everyone has a biome or two that they struggle with and it's certainly most frustrating when it's the first one. There are people on here who will have died waaaaay more times than you in biome 1 though and they finished the game.

Good luck!

Thrillho

Tatarimokke

@Thrillho Thank you for your encouragement ! I didn't even know there is melee attack in this game... How do you perform that? I had just a pistol and shotgun so far.

Tatarimokke

Voltan

@Tatarimokke Some basic advice (you might be already doing some of these but just in case):

  • focus on not getting hit, learn to use the dash effectively - the dash makes you invulnerable to most attacks, you just have to make sure you time it right
  • there are several advantages to not getting hit - the adrenaline meter will give you meaningful powerups but will go down to zero after a hit
  • also, picking up silphium when at full health makes it act like silphium resin - find 3 and it will improve your max health
  • it might be a little counter-intuitive at first but dashing into projectiles can be more effective than dashing away from them
  • generally stay on the move
  • you don't want to use the aim button in most scenarios, as it limits your mobility and field of view - it can be useful when fighting single enemies at long distance
  • Returnal's aim assist is pretty strong so you, you will hit things if you shoot in their general direction
  • for most weapons, including the starting gun, it's better to hold the trigger than press it repeatedly - it will prevent you from accidentally missing the overload window
  • on that point, use the overload (the quick reload) - there's no penalty for missing it but getting it right will reload your weapon much faster, which can make a big difference

Hope this helps you enjoy this fantastic game

edit: to use melee you need to find the blade first (it's a permanent upgrade that you keep after dying) - it's possible that you don't have it yet - it's needed to finish the first biome so you're probably close to it

edit2: the spitmaw (shotgun) is probably one of everybody's least favorite weapons - you should be able to find a carbine instead - when you do, I'd recommend sticking with that for a while

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Elodin

@Tatarimokke The last 2 of what @Volcan said are key. The spitmaw is trash and getting the sword makes the first biome much more palatable. The sword pops up randomly. Some get lucky and they find it in an early run. For me I think it was around my 20th run through, although admittedly I was terrible early and didn't make it through many encounters. At the Very beginning of the game I'd stick with the carbine. Great early game weapon.

Elodin

Tatarimokke

@Voltan Oh cool thanks for your help. Good to know i can dash into the projectiles not just away from them. Also i don't get the overload thing and yes there were several fights when just one shot was missing to finish off the enemy but i couldn't shot. How do you manage this actually? Also what is your strategy against the big octopus monster with melee jumps on you ( doesn't seem it shoots any projectile) usually that one is i struggle most, especially when other monsters shooting at me at the same time. How hard is the first biome boss? Do i need to fight against bosses again every time i die? I can't imagine guys how are you able to complete this game in one run i can't even survive the first biome...

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Voltan

@Tatarimokke That big jumpy boi always signals his intentions by making his tentacles move and glow. Keep an eye out and dash at the right time to avoid the attack. It’s not that hard once you get used to the timing.

As for overload - when you’re reloading there’s a small bar displayed with a section of it highlighted and an indicator moving from the left side to the right. Your gun is reloaded once the indicator reaches the right end of the bar but if you pull the trigger when it’s inside the highlighted part, it will reload instantly instead.
Having your adrenaline on level 1 or higher, makes the highlighted section much wider and the overload much easier to perform.
You gain an adrenaline level by getting 3 kills without getting hit.

Voltan

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@Tatarimokke To add to @Voltans comments, you will know when you hit the overload just right as you will hear a satisfying noise and you can keep shooting. With some weapons you'll only get a few shots before you have to reload so it's worth trying to get that right.

For the big guy I'd suggest maintain your distance for most of the fight. Try to use the walls so you can take some shots and then dash back into cover and as he advances you can just move back. If there are other hostiles in the room at the same time then I usually find it's easiest to keep moving around the room taking those out first but still keeping away from the big guy. Don't forget about your alt-fire as that can be really useful against the bigger hostiles if you get a window of opportunity to use it.

The first biome boss isn't too bad once you learn how to avoid his moves. You'll appreciate the game more if you go in blind though and work it out for yourself but there's also a load of videos available now showing how to beat the bosses. It took me a few goes but other people have managed to do it in one go so see how you get on. Once you've beaten it though you won't have to do it again unless you want to and the same goes for most of the others.

It's worth persevering though and the payoff will be incredible, I promise you. Keep going, you can do it!!

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Just2Milky

@Tatarimokke
if it comes down to damaging the enemy and taking a hit yourself or hiding and nothing taking damage, chose nothing taking damage! Heath is more important in returnal than in any other game I played

if anything has a red sphere around it (they might only spawn after you get the sword upgrade) they can only be defeated by hitting them with a sword, then finishing them off normally.

The 1st biome is one of the hardest

Any projectiles (exept purple) can be dodged through,

I hope all of this helps, returnal is a great game!

“I’m a really good lawyer.”
———
“One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them; In the Land of Mordor where the shadows lie.”

Tatarimokke

@Voltan @render Thanks again i really appreciate your help guys. About the adrenalin that was my only achievement yesterday i reached max level of adrenalin and get a trophy for it:) I thought ok it seems i am getting better...then i just died in the next room...
I know it is an amazing game so i'm going to jump back today.
Just one more thing. Is there any checkpoint in the game somewhere or you need to start again from the beginning if you die in he 4th biome for example?

Tatarimokke

Tatarimokke

@Just_2_milky thanks yes of course every little info drops help me to keep me going! i'll check it out the guides too!

Tatarimokke

Voltan

@Tatarimokke After getting to biome 4, you will start there after death.
Also once you unlock biome 3 (and later 6) you can go there directly from 1 (or 4) - it’s up to you how much time you want to spend in the previous biomes (as it will take time but will also allow you to upgrade your health and collect artifacts).

Voltan

render

@Tatarimokke Yes once you get to B4 you will then respawn there if you die in any of the further biomes. Otherwise you will always come back to B1.

Just to add another tip into what Voltan was saying earlier about dashing forward. If you dash forward not only are you going to better avoid any projectiles but you will also be able to collect more obolites which will mean you can buy more items from the fabricators. I know there are people that prefer to play defensively but if you do then you really miss out on being able to get more items to help you later on, so would definitely recommend trying to play offensively if you can.

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Tatarimokke

@Voltan I see. So probably better if I'd go through every biome again after death otherwise i'll be too weak for 3rd biome without upgrades and proper weapons?

Tatarimokke

Tatarimokke

@Just_2_milky i didn't know what to do with the red sphere things so thanks for that. Yes they spawn even if you don't have the sword. I saw turrets mostly so i just run across the room to avoid them

Tatarimokke

Voltan

@Tatarimokke Honestly, personally I died a bunch of times in biome 1 and then when I finally managed to kill the 1st boss, I somehow made it all the way to biome 4 in the same run, so I don’t think I could give advice on that
In the 2nd act, I’d usually go to biome 6 as soon as I could (you have to go through about 1/3 of biome 4 to get to the portal) but that’s just me and my YOLO play style. I didn’t really mind dying a bunch in this game
It’s probably smart to clear out the 1st biome (minus the boss) before going to 3.

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Voltan

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