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sorteddan

Well as me and the Colonel were discussing recently, its about that time to look back over the previous 12 months of gaming and platinum chasing and so here is my retrospective:

2021 - Was it all plat?

Easiest: Oxenfree; The Last Campfire

Hardest: Enter the Gungeon; Sound Shapes; Dead Nation

Favorites: Disgaea 1 Complete; Jydge; Hellblade

Weirdest: Kentucky Route Zero

Most Underwhelming: Uncharted 4

Most Annoying: Hotshot Racing

Most Grindy: Middle Earth: Shadow of War

Blastiest from the Pastiest: Bioshock Remastered

and now I should probably stop before I invent categories for all the other games I platted this year...

Edit: Hotshot Racing I only found annoying due to need for online races when servers were pretty empty. The game itself wasn't annoying. It is superb.

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“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”

Ralizah

@Sorteddan That's an impressive list of trophies. Enter the Gungeon, in particular, I recall having some really demanding trophy requirements.

Did you do Dead Nation in co-op?

Congrats on the milestone! That's a lot of platinums.

@colonelkilgore Getting the platinum was definitely satisfying overall, even if I found that one bugged colossus to be exhausting as hell. Definitely tag me if you end up going for the trophies yourself.

@Thrillho Yep. Despite not having returned to it for years, I still have Rayman Legends installed on my PS4's HDD because one day I intend to suck it up and start grinding online challenges again in order to get that last trophy I need.

I have kind of a love/hate relationship with trophy hunting, but, overall, I'm glad the system is there. And despite being more of a Nintendo person overall, it's getting me to actually repurchase some games on PS4 just for trophy collection purposes.

@render Thanks. Realistically, this game is best enjoyed as the cinematic five-to-six hour adventure epic it is on a first playthrough. Grinding the other 35 or so hours for the trophies kind of removes the game's mystique and makes its flaws harder to ignore. Although I don't regret doing it.

An interesting question that occurred to me just now: do you consider trophies to be an "extra" of sorts or a major part of the experience? Like, if a game has a truly wretched trophy list, would that be cause to rate it lower than if it had less aggravating trophies?

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sorteddan

@Ralizah
Enter the Gungeon could be harsh but I loved it, pretty much played it everyday for 3 months or so and was one of the first platinums I got this year.

Dead Nation needed at least one playthrough co-op for a trophy but had to do most of the tougher stuff solo. Grim mode campaign and getting to level 10 on Arcade were pretty testing.

And thanks. Yep it's taken a while but finally got the century.

“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”

sorteddan

@RogerRoger
Well I had to stay true to my nefarious roots, after all the game was for 'Super-Villains' so I chose the bad guys for my character 'Sorted Man' (which I thought funny at least!)

“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”

Thrillho

@Ralizah Urgh, the Rayman Legends trophy were

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Getting a million lums and the top level of awesomeness were just utterly pointless, and having no friends how had played the game meant I couldn't get either of those trophies either.

If you need someone to lowball some scores for you, I'd be more than happy to help!

Thrillho

Ralizah

@Thrillho I'm OK. Getting good online scores isn't the problem. Doing the challenges for months on end is the real challenge. If I just made a habit of playing the online challenges for a few minutes every morning, I'd have had the plat years ago, but I suck at that sort of thing.

Million lums is actually not that bad if you do everything in the game. It's that darn Awesomeness lvl 11 trophy. SO annoying.

@RogerRoger Thanks. I don't think I'd have had the fortitude to platinum the PS3 version. Even hunting the few lizards I did was painful. Going for all of them... well...

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render

@Ralizah It’s a good question regarding trophy lists. I tend to only attempt to platinum games that I’ve really enjoyed, usually to get that little bit more play out of the game. I love to find stuff out by myself if I can so I do prefer to go into games blind. Because of that I only look at the trophy list after the first play through, which is sometimes good sometimes bad as it can mean having to do a whole other play through especially on linear games. It means you can just enjoy the game for what it is first and for most and then decide if it’s worth going back for the trophies.

If I’ve really enjoyed a game it does make me feel disappointed if I find out it’s got an overly arduous trophy list, but I definitely wouldn’t think less of the game for it. It might make me feel different about a game if I had to grind to the point of not enjoying the gameplay any more though, similar to your experience with SotC, which is pretty much why I parked it where I did.

On the flip side of that though I love it when I find out that I didn’t quite finish off all the trophies for something that I fancy revisiting as it gives me more of a reason to jump back in.

render

graymamba

render wrote:

… I only look at the trophy list after the first play through, which is sometimes good sometimes bad as it can mean having to do a whole other play through especially on linear games. It means you can just enjoy the game for what it is first and for most and then decide if it’s worth going back for the trophies.

So to avoid that but in the interest of ‘keeping the magic alive’ I just look at the opening ‘summary’ section of trophy guides. It doesn’t spoil or ‘show you how’… it just points out if anything is missable etc. ie this one is one I just opened for Assassins Creed 2:

Overview:

Estimated trophy difficulty: 4/10 (Estimated Difficulty)
Offline trophies: 51 (34, 15, 1, 1)
Online trophies: 0
Approximate amount of time to platinum: 25-35 hours (Estimated Time)
Minimum number of playthroughs: 1
Number of missable trophies: Fly Swatter unless you've bought the Downloadable Content "The Battle of Forli." If you buy this extra mission you can use the Flying machine whenever you want after the sequence.
Glitched trophies: 0
Does difficulty affect trophies?: No difficulty
Do trophies stack?: PS3 and PS4 have separate trophy lists
Do cheat codes disable trophies?: No cheat codes

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render

@colonelkilgore That’s an excellent way of dealing with that dilemma, I’ll take that onboard as it would have saved me a lot of effort with some games.

I’ve just wrapped up the platinum on GotG which took me ages as I had to do a NG+ in order to wrap up the Lore Hoarder trophy. I thought I’d been reasonably thorough so didn’t think anything of it so it was quite annoying to see I’d missed quite so much.

render

graymamba

@render congrats on your new shiney… they did hide some of those collectibles very well in fairness… and the chapter select was close to being useless in terms of trophy hunting!

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Cornaboyzzz

Congrats everyone on all these plats ! I remember Rayman Legends and its infamous daily grinding. 😅

318 Grand Theft Auto III - The game that created the genre ! It was nice playing it again but everything feels so basic now. Easy platinum except for a few Rampages and Vigilante missions. This is a poor remaster though, lazy Rockstar.

Cornaboyzzz

Th3solution

Ralizah wrote:

An interesting question that occurred to me just now: do you consider trophies to be an "extra" of sorts or a major part of the experience? Like, if a game has a truly wretched trophy list, would that be cause to rate it lower than if it had less aggravating trophies?

It’s a fair question and if I think about my own inner prejudice, I have to admit the trophy list does have a minor effect on my overall ranking of a game. I think it is an equalizer for the mass of games that live in the middle between “masterpiece” and “dreadful”. For average and middling games I honestly have to say I get more enjoyment, and therefore more highly rank, a game with a good trophy list.

However, I’ll take The Last of Us as an example. It’s in my top 20 games of all time, most likely, and I hated the trophy list and still only have 19% of the trophies. Shadow of the Colossus is another example. The ridiculous trophies don’t bring the game down from my adoration of what I consider to be one of my favorite games of all time.
The Resident Evil games are others that I still have low trophy percentages that I can’t be bothered to chase, but still would rate the games themselves very highly.

The opposite side of things is true too, where I enjoy a trophy list but don’t think much of the game itself. Undertale comes to mind. Brilliant trophies, but not enough to save the game.

But for the vast majority of games an enjoyable jaunt through the meta-game of trophy hunting can really elevate an experience for me.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

sorteddan

@render @Cornaboyzzz @RogerRoger
Yes! Platinum poppin party people!!

And to mark my transition into the current gen.. #101 Astros Playroom (PS5)
Joyous is the best word I have to describe my short experience with this. It made me happy. Oh an I especially like the activity clip things that show you video clips of where missed collectables are - I hope more games utilise this feature.

Also what did they do to the picture/image of the plats on the new look trophy list?? Stupid cartoony oversized jenk. I am displeased!

“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”

render

@Sorteddan Nice, that’s a cracking choice for a first platinum on PS5. It’s still pretty much the benchmark for the controller features too and is just really fun to play. My kids still love it so gives me a reason to boot it back up again.

render

Thrillho

@Sorteddan That new platinum sound though!

You might want to think about tinkering with settings for auto screenshots/vids for trophies as they quickly take up space.

Activity cards are relatively well used on games I’ve played. Playing Kena I reflexively started to google for some help on a bit until I remembered about the cards.

Thrillho

sorteddan

@Thrillho Good tip. Thank you. It's something I did on PS4 and should get around to ASAP on new machine, it's not as if I ever get the urge to go back and look at a screenshot of that time I achieved whatever trophy.

“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”

WCB

Happy New Years everyone!

It's been a little while since my last post but I did get my last plat of the year yesterday.

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A gorgeous looking game, had fun with it. A bit on the short side but still took me just over 17 hours to complete.

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