@CJD87 Sure thing, buddy. I would offer my skills for co-op if you run into any bosses you struggle with but I’m afraid I’m so out of practice that I’d probably be more of a hinderance than a help! 😅 But yeah, if nothing else I’ll enjoy experiencing the game again through the eyes and ears of first timer. It’s a game I relish hearing about because of the memories.
Our mate @ThereThere was also playing this not too long ago. Do you ever finish the game, boss? Curious as to your thoughts.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
In case anyone is remotely interested, thought I'd post a quick update about my 1st playthrough progress.
After a few tries I finally managed to topple the Cleric Beast, and have now hit the wall that is Father Gascoigne. Granted, I've only had a couple of pops at him - but the pacing and ferocity of the fight is pretty punishing at first attempts.
I like so much about this game, and think it will probably rank in my FS top #3. I know already that the atmosphere/environment/aesthetic is my favorite among all FS's output, and the whole lovecraftian victorian vibe is just..... so cool.
I've been doing a bit of grinding to up my stats a bit, currently pushing 20 VIT, with 14 END & 14 STR. Plan to keep things simple on this playthrough and just really focus on those 3 stats (Work with STR weapons I guess).
My biggest stumbling block is the controls, but this is more a 'me' problem.... I'm still playing a lot of Sunbreak on Switch, and the control schemes for MHR/Bloodborne are basically polar opposites. If this becomes really problematic I might re-map Bloodborne so that the face buttons are the attacks, but this is a last resort - keen to play the game as FS intended (Control scheme, warts and all)
My favorite moment so far - the giant pig in the sewers! I tried to best him 'face on' and got brutally pummelled. Eventually found a shortcut to sneak up behind him and use the sneak/visceral attack, which seemed to involve shoving my character's arm up a very unpleasant place and decimating the pig ha!
Shortcuts and mapping is very 'dark souls' and rewarding in all those ways. I appreciate the tightness of the world and linearity also. I feel that when I beat Father G, this will be infinitely helpful in my pursuit to 'Git Gud'..... Which was one small niggle I had with Elden Ring (perhaps just a little too much scope for becoming OP vs bosses, and diminishing an element of challenge)
So far, my FS ranking is still Sekiro at #1, then ER #2 - but followed v closely by BB at #3. I'd probably then go DS1 @ #4 and DeS last. (I've not played DS2 or 3)
On a side-note, have anyone played Thymesia? Reviews seem divisive but many suggest it is scratching the 'Bloodborne itch'?!
@CJD87 sounds like your not only making some good progress… but also really enjoying it dude 👍. Little tip for Father Gascoigne, use the environment such as grave stones etc to manage distance… big tip for FG there is an item which helps in this particular fight.
About Thymesia, so I haven’t started it yet but I’m confident I’m gonna love it (so confident that I searched out a physical copy for my collection). I think the mixed reviews are as a result of reviewers being from two distinct camps. People who just got on board the souls-like hype train post-Elden Ring and people who would be considered hardcore souls-like fans. The former seem to think it poor, while the latter seem to really appreciate what it offers.
My tip for Father Gascoigne is there is an area up some stairs, where I fared much better against him. I found I was always getting stick on a tree or some gravestones, which that area is free of.
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@JohnnyShoulder yeah Lies of P does look very good so far… I’m still looking forward to playing Thymesia though. The combination of having to co-ordinate a two-pronged attack by inflicting plague followed by pure damage appeals.
We’re gonna be spoiled for choice shortly, what with the two mentioned above, Shattered: Tale of a Forgotten King as well as the upcoming Steelrising and Black Myth Wukong. I might have to up my annual intake of souls-likes just to keep up 😅
@colonelkilgore I've not actually had much joy other than games made by From Software. Think the only one I've enjoyed is The Surge, and I wouldn't say that was outstanding. At this point I will probably wait until DLC for Elden Ring to materialise.
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Thanks both for the FG tips... funnily enough I actually decided to have a stab at him about 5 mintues after posting, and managed to take him out
I think the gun parry/riposte is quite a high risk&reward mechanic, but I probably owe my success to that tactic. The damage dealt through the riposte is pretty obscene, and thankfully I went in to battle with plenty of bullets! I've now been able to upgrade my SawBlade to +3 and also implemented some blood gems for a damage boost (I can use 2 simultaneously it turns out)
The blood gem mechanic reminds me very much of the FFVII materia concept, in that I am given the impression the gems can be re-used and swapped out between weapons?
But yeah, it is a really cool game and I think I might even go for NG+ if it doesn't turn out too bloated. (NB I never did NG+ on Elden Ring, loved my time with it but NG took me nearly 85 hours and I was a bit burned out by the end)
@colonelkilgore - that is a really interesting perspective, re. reviewers who have recently jumped on to the 'Soul-train' due to accessibility of Elden Ring... I think it is a great thing that gamers are perhaps now more open-minded to approach this genre, but equally their expectations of a Souls-like will vary greatly vs an experienced FromSoft 'OG'
@JohnnyShoulder I’ve enjoyed all the ones I’ve played tbh… but all the while fully aware that they’ll probably never tick every From Soft box… particularly when they’re AA.
I’m surprised that we haven’t heard anything about Elden Ring DLC. Was kinda expecting it to be announced at Gamescon.
@CJD87 Good job with Father Gascoigne! I’ve said it on here before, but in my opinion he’s probably one of, if not the hardest boss in the game. To me he’s kinda like the B1 boss in Returnal. Seems so hard at first, but is the first big ‘proving ground’ for the game and so despite lots of difficult bosses later on, nothing feels quite as big of an obstacle afterward, even if future enemies are technically harder. It’s all downhill from here! 😄
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@CJD87@Th3solution Like Sol says if you best Farther Gascoigne then you will be able to do the rest of the game.
I have only played this and currently DeS remake but I absolutely fell in love with this game and it will take alot from the other souls games to top it I think, the combat, the atheistic, the environment and the enemies especially some of the bosses are just fantastic and solving ways to beat them just felt so rewarding.
I hope you carry on enjoying the game because I believe its a true master piece.
@MaulTsir Thanks man! Gascoigne was rough, I won't lie...!
Agree 100% that the aesthetic and environment are unrivalled... not sure if it will ever top Sekiro for me, but it could well beat Elden Ring for the #2 spot in my FS rankings.
There is an interesting theory floating around that everyone always ranks their first FS game as their 'favorite'... and this actually seems to be relatively true!
My first was Dark Souls on 360 and I did not like it. At all. When back to it a few times over several months and could not get past a couple of sections. I only completed it when it got remastered for PS4. My ranking for the series is... 👀
1. Sekiro
2. Elden Ring
3. Bloodborne
4. Dark Souls 3
5. Dark Souls Remastered
6. Demon's Souls PS5
7. Dark Souls 2 PS4
I put Sekiro at numero uno as I think as an overall package it slightly has the edge over Elden Ring.
Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.
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@JohnnyShoulder That top 3 is pretty consistent across a lot of From veterans. The exact order of the 3 is often mixed up, but most often it’s Sekiro, ER and BB at the top.
Both ER and Sekiro worry me that they each seem to have a couple late game bosses that are just brutal. I would hate to get through an entire game and get to the last boss and not be able to finish it. It’s what scare me off them. Not to say I’ll never try Sekiro or ER but I keep thinking I’ll try DS3 as my next FromSoft game.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@JohnnyShoulder My take on DS is probably similar to yours. I certainly 'appreciate' it as a game, and objectively I really respect what FS achieved.... I just didn't enjoy it all that much!
I actually appreciate DS a lot more now though, having played the DeS remake on PS5. Whilst it is probably one of the most graphically gorgeous games on PS5, and Bluepoint did a phenomenal job with the ground-up rebuild, the game mechanics are just so hit & miss! DS seems to improve upon a lot of the issues I had with DeS....
ER is a masterpiece of course, but I think it suffers slightly from the bloat element you find in most open-world games. But I do think ER is a good example of how an open-world game should approach trophies. Assuming you're not adverse to save-scumming endings, the platinum requirements for ER are pretty much perfect IMO..... vs how obnoxious the platinum requirements for DeS are!
People also rave about DS3, which I might try and squeeze in before end of this year.
Just got to Old Yharnam in BB, and have some machine-gun wielding nutcase sniping me whilst I try and tackle the usual mobs! In classic FS fashion, I was trolled to an untimely demise by a group of crows who stun-locked me whilst I took a shed-load of machine gun fire. This game....
@CJD87 Yeah the crows are bar stewards. I quite like Old Yarnham, but that area at the beginning is a pain at first. It was also one of the areas where the frame rate would take a massive hit. I think they eventually patched it though.
Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.
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Sony has only 2 Playstation Exclusive IP's made by From Software in it's portfolio: Demon's Souls and Bloodborne.
Due to the success of the devs and of the Soulsborne genre in general, my guess is they're gonna keep Bloodborne on ice until the next gen console launch, and do a full Remake of it, like they did with Demon's Souls, to apply a heavy boost to the initial sales.
It's the most likely reason for the lack of a 60fps patch or of a PS5 Remaster.
And why Sony will continue to avoid making a PC port for it, and keep it 100% exclusive (Demon's Sous Remake doesn't have one either, even if it was launched over 2 years ago - despite the company's recent policies, to bring it's exclusive IP's to PC after 1-2 years of exclusivity).
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