@Ultimapunch Because they want to grow and SP games alone ain't doing it. Even 1 successful LS game can generate a billiion+ per year and free up resources to do other stuff. PS3 and 4 might have outsold Xbox 360 and 1, but Microsoft can straight up buy Sony.
@Frmknst For real. Standards have dropped massively over the past decade. How did we go from the Sopranos, GOT, Wire, Breaking Bad etc to calling shows like TLOU and Fallout great? Even the first 3 seasons of the Vampire Diaries are a million times better than what we get nowadays.
@PerpetualBoredom I don't think it's narrow. It's common sense. Big studios push boundaries and release products that excite as opposed to merely intrigue people.
@AdamNovice If you are a game reviewer you probably care about the health of the industry, but if you are a regular gamer with a job you probably only care about receiving good games. And most good games are AAA. Unless you are into some niche genres that only indie studios target.
@Mintie Of course that Kojima would say that his game did well. Can't trust him. We need hackers to hack Kojima productions and leak internal info to be sure.
@Mikey856 By now you should be well aware that the creatures in charge of movies, tv shows and games are indeed just humans like you and me and they can be just as petty, biased and flawed as you and me. Quality and appealing to the most amount of people is not always a priority and when you are dealing with AAA budgets... you end up having to lay people off.
@ChrisDeku What was the point you attempted to make? The thousands fired western devs should all work for Rockstar? If Rockstar did that no amount of sales will save them from being risk averse. Those jobs are gone and and many studios can't get the funding to work on new games so they won't be hiring anyone. A ton have already closed their doors.
Spider-Man 2 is a bad example to make because Insomniac didn't make enough money back to warrant making DLCs despite the budget being much higher than SM1.
EDIT: I already said in the second comment that these eastern devs are not pushing the boundries. They are making more modern versions of older western games. Which is primarily why I am not excited about a future where they are the more popular source of new games.
@ChrisDeku Didn't studios like Capcom, Fromsoft and the devs of Wukong and Eve receive bonuses recently?
The job of a gaming studio is to make money. If the budget is too high or the game doesn't appeal to gamers the opposite will happen. Either way the west is lagging behind the East. And that would have never happened if western studios didn't drop the ball hard in recent years. Now we are looking at a future where the Asian gaming industry is booming and soaking up most of the time and money of consumers while the western developers will go work and build their skills in other industries.
@DennisReynolds Who exactly is not saying that the industry is in trouble? The shareholders of successful western studios? Now that's a minority right there.
@DennisReynolds I think that you are being defensive for no reason.
Everyone has been talking about the awful state of the western gaming industry for years now. You can't point to the few successful games(that let's be honest cater to an old school audience) and pretend that everything is actually okay. The large amount of layoffs affects the industry regardless and it's especially infuriating to see big studios that should know better release games that appeal to very few gamers.
Also, I seem to recall people in this very forum point out that FF7R did well actually sales wise despite being an exclusive.
The thing is that Asia is not doing anything new or special. They are making games similar to what we had a decade ago. The west shot itself in the foot and it resulted in a lot of layoffs due to poor sales.
@Mikey856 Some games are still great at 30 fps. It's up to the skill and budget of the developers. GTA 5 played very well on PS3 from what I can remember. TLOU as well.
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Re: Abby Actress Kaitlyn Dever Aware of Outsized Expectations for Role in HBO's The Last of Us
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Re: Abby Actress Kaitlyn Dever Aware of Outsized Expectations for Role in HBO's The Last of Us
@DennisReynolds In comparison to the OG the sequel didn't do all that well despite the budget being higher. Just like SM2.
It makes no business sense to invest many years into TLOU3 unless they are in a Bioware situation where they tried everything else first.
Re: Abby Actress Kaitlyn Dever Aware of Outsized Expectations for Role in HBO's The Last of Us
Are the expectations high tho? TLOU2 didn't sell well enough to guarantee a third game.
ND would probably only do it if Intergalactic and the next Uncharted flop.
Re: WWE 2K25 (PS5) - Unbeatable Value from 2K’s Dominant Wrestling Series
Can you play 5v5 SS matches yet?
Re: Rumour: Next-Gen Xbox a 'PC in Essence' - What Would That Mean for PlayStation?
@AdamNovice Of course you need an xbox. Everything is an xbox and you need at least 1 thing in your life to play games.
Re: Indiana Jones and the Great Circle PS5 Release Date, Pre-Order Info Seemingly Leaked
@x3King84 What about Switch?
Re: Split Fiction Smashes First Weekend in the UK, Physical Sales Dominated by PS5
@Stevemalkpus Why would I not be happy for a game to succeed. Do you think me a monster?
Re: Split Fiction Smashes First Weekend in the UK, Physical Sales Dominated by PS5
@naruball That's subjective. IMO Return was fun.
Re: Split Fiction Smashes First Weekend in the UK, Physical Sales Dominated by PS5
Nice to see Call Of Duty do so well.
Re: Death Stranding Music Will Tour the World Later This Year
I hope the Sydney on 8th of November is Sweeney
Re: Mailbox: Sony's Live Service Stupidity, Ghost of Yotei's Appeal, and the Magic of Open World RPGs
@Ultimapunch Because they want to grow and SP games alone ain't doing it. Even 1 successful LS game can generate a billiion+ per year and free up resources to do other stuff. PS3 and 4 might have outsold Xbox 360 and 1, but Microsoft can straight up buy Sony.
Re: This Trailer for HBO's The Last of Us Season 2 May Be An All-Time Great
@Frmknst For real. Standards have dropped massively over the past decade. How did we go from the Sopranos, GOT, Wire, Breaking Bad etc to calling shows like TLOU and Fallout great? Even the first 3 seasons of the Vampire Diaries are a million times better than what we get nowadays.
Re: Preview: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Looks Stunning, Hits Hard, and Feels Fresh on PS5
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Re: Preview: Atomfall Proves a Must-Play Mystery on PS5, PS4
@PerpetualBoredom I don't think it's narrow. It's common sense. Big studios push boundaries and release products that excite as opposed to merely intrigue people.
Re: Preview: Atomfall Proves a Must-Play Mystery on PS5, PS4
@AdamNovice If you are a game reviewer you probably care about the health of the industry, but if you are a regular gamer with a job you probably only care about receiving good games. And most good games are AAA. Unless you are into some niche genres that only indie studios target.
Re: Preview: Atomfall Proves a Must-Play Mystery on PS5, PS4
@PerpetualBoredom Not really. It's just a game with a smaller budget.
Re: Death Stranding 2 PS5 Release Date, Pre-Order Info Appears Imminent
@Mintie Of course that Kojima would say that his game did well. Can't trust him. We need hackers to hack Kojima productions and leak internal info to be sure.
Re: Preview: Atomfall Proves a Must-Play Mystery on PS5, PS4
Meh. It looks AA.
Re: Death Stranding 2 PS5 Release Date, Pre-Order Info Appears Imminent
@Bamila Kojima might be spread too thin. Too many games and DS1 didn't even do all that great.
Re: The Last of Us Gets Its Own Limited Edition DualSense PS5 Controller
The Last Of Us Re-Mars-tered edition tease?
Re: The Order: 1886 Honoured in Today's New Astro Bot PS5 Level
@3Above You don't get to make Uncharted 2 if Uncharted 1 doesn't sell.
Re: Prepare 107GB of Space for Assassin's Creed Shadows on PS5
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@Hapless As far as I'm concerned if a studio is doing poorly they can't get worse. I already don't care about their games.
Re: Prepare 107GB of Space for Assassin's Creed Shadows on PS5
@DennisReynolds The layoffs are a natural part of making bad products. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Re: Until Dawn Remake Dev 'Effectively' Closed, Says New Report
To be fair an Until Dawn remake should make no money in a sane world.
Re: 'Don't Bet' on The Last of Us 3, Warns Neil Druckmann
@Kriandis Nah. There are more money to be made with a part three. It's better than another Concord.
Re: Release Window for Anticipated Superhero Game Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra Seemingly Revealed
@Ravix I think that all good writers stopped getting work at big companies because no talented artist wants to make sanitized products.
Re: Be the First to Try New PS5 Games and Features with Sony's Beta Program
Would be cool if they let us play test TLOU3
Re: Split Fiction (PS5) - A Truly Outstanding, Peerlessly Creative Co-Op Adventure
Looks decent.
Re: Split Fiction: Friend Edition Is the Silliest Game Promo We've Seen in Ages
They should make a SP mode
Re: You Can Get a Head Start on Next Week's Big PS Plus Game
@Lup People said that hair rendering was the only good thing about the game lol
Re: You Can Get a Head Start on Next Week's Big PS Plus Game
@Mikey856 By now you should be well aware that the creatures in charge of movies, tv shows and games are indeed just humans like you and me and they can be just as petty, biased and flawed as you and me. Quality and appealing to the most amount of people is not always a priority and when you are dealing with AAA budgets... you end up having to lay people off.
Re: You Can Get a Head Start on Next Week's Big PS Plus Game
@Mikey856 The game already under performed massively and every writer along with a ton of other developers got moved or fired.
The haters aka people who expect experienced studios to release good games won this one.
Re: Suicide Squad Bombed So Bad, It Basically Took Wonder Woman and Monolith Down with It
@pyrrhic_victory Worse games have succeeded.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: A PS5 Game Finally Rules the Roost as Like a Dragon Plunders
Xbox fans will claim that they finally beat the PS4
Re: Palworld Maker Shuts Up Shop So Staff Can Enjoy Monster Hunter Wilds in Peace
Maybe Bioware devs should take a paid week off to play Witcher 4 when it drops
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds Breaks Records within Hours of Releasing
@ChrisDeku What was the point you attempted to make? The thousands fired western devs should all work for Rockstar? If Rockstar did that no amount of sales will save them from being risk averse. Those jobs are gone and and many studios can't get the funding to work on new games so they won't be hiring anyone. A ton have already closed their doors.
Spider-Man 2 is a bad example to make because Insomniac didn't make enough money back to warrant making DLCs despite the budget being much higher than SM1.
EDIT: I already said in the second comment that these eastern devs are not pushing the boundries. They are making more modern versions of older western games. Which is primarily why I am not excited about a future where they are the more popular source of new games.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds Breaks Records within Hours of Releasing
@ChrisDeku Didn't studios like Capcom, Fromsoft and the devs of Wukong and Eve receive bonuses recently?
The job of a gaming studio is to make money. If the budget is too high or the game doesn't appeal to gamers the opposite will happen. Either way the west is lagging behind the East. And that would have never happened if western studios didn't drop the ball hard in recent years. Now we are looking at a future where the Asian gaming industry is booming and soaking up most of the time and money of consumers while the western developers will go work and build their skills in other industries.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds Breaks Records within Hours of Releasing
@DennisReynolds Who exactly is not saying that the industry is in trouble? The shareholders of successful western studios? Now that's a minority right there.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds Breaks Records within Hours of Releasing
@DennisReynolds I think that you are being defensive for no reason.
Everyone has been talking about the awful state of the western gaming industry for years now. You can't point to the few successful games(that let's be honest cater to an old school audience) and pretend that everything is actually okay. The large amount of layoffs affects the industry regardless and it's especially infuriating to see big studios that should know better release games that appeal to very few gamers.
Also, I seem to recall people in this very forum point out that FF7R did well actually sales wise despite being an exclusive.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds Breaks Records within Hours of Releasing
The thing is that Asia is not doing anything new or special. They are making games similar to what we had a decade ago. The west shot itself in the foot and it resulted in a lot of layoffs due to poor sales.
Re: Video: Monster Hunter Wilds Graphics Compared on PS5 and PS5 Pro
@Mikey856 Some games are still great at 30 fps. It's up to the skill and budget of the developers. GTA 5 played very well on PS3 from what I can remember. TLOU as well.
Re: Nathan Drake, Shadowheart Actors to Host Future Games Show Spring Showcase in March
@zhoont They got the gig because they did such a good job those characters are now known to every gamer
Re: Nathan Drake, Shadowheart Actors to Host Future Games Show Spring Showcase in March
Anything other than Uncharted 5/BG 4 announcements is now officially considered a disappointment
Re: PSVR2 Gets Enormous Price Reduction Starting March 2025
@Czar_Khastik Least snobbish rich person
Re: PSVR2 Gets Enormous Price Reduction Starting March 2025
If they announce another Quest or Index device without OLED, I am buying it for sure!