Whately86

@Andy22385 And I ain't singing for ANY crowd. I'm giving my damn opinion. As far as I'm aware, that's still my right. Or not? Are we only allowed to comment pro Sony bs here? Sorry, didn't know Sony was pimping y'all so hard

@Andy22385 It says a lot that you're "happy" with a console that was marketed to do what PS5 was originally meant to do. DIDN'T DO IT and had games running WORSE than the base PS5.

You paid premium to beta test pssr for them. If you'e married, your wife hops around everyone's lap and you're proud, good for you.

I am definitely not.

@Andy22385 of course you're happy. You're part of the stupid percentage that can afford the abuse and therefore doesn't notice how much of a fool he's being made of. You just can't wait to get a mouthful of Sony's jam, clearly open to pay as much as needed for every drop. Good for you. We're different

Wooow, do the 700 dollar, plastic stand, no drive, beta pssr tester really did it's job!

Thanks everyone that paid 700 bucks to help Sony develop their tech! Now finally there will be No games running BETTER on base PS5!

It was totally worth it! It's ok the hooks of faceplates for pro were purposely changed so you couldn't use the Slim faceplates!

It's ok the 700 dollar premium machine didn't come with premium controller or headset.

It's ok the 700 buck premium machine had games running WORSE than base PS5.

It's ok the Slim was 1st console without driver and Pro followed model FOR 700 DOLLARS.

You guys are ridiculous. It's pathetic. This console has what? A year? And NOW it's working properly?

And you praise it?

So if you buy a house, move in, it's not ready and doesn't work as it should and one year later it does, you're celebrating the guy that sold you the house? Are you plain dumb?

Oh, sorry. You're paid. Totally forgot

@Balaam_ Sony invested HARD this gen to make gaming more expensive with cheaper quality build

@Globo Is it just me or did your reply vanish?

It is impossible to avoid seeing the Big Picture, as day passes.

Children exploited in roblox etc, companies don't care and continue allowing and making money

Professionals, workers with families, pay the price of the stupid profit driven goals & gamble of corporate

Consumers being locked into gated subscription services, loss of owning what they pay for, rises of prices with loss of quality, forced full digital future

If not for RAM crisis, PS6 would be pushed the same way PS4 was, to replace a generation that failed to reach the potential they expected.

PS5 is a very clear downgrade example. Launch introduced 1st digital console. Slim introduced full digital mid gen with modular drive (they simple sold versions with mod drive). PRO with absurd price, beta testing PSSR, crappy plastic stand, no pro controller or headset, with games running WORSE than fat PS5. Just so PS6 has a nice PSSR to justify the price for a full digital console. Edit - $700 AND NO DRIVE - FULLY DIGITAL CONSOLE FOR CONSUMERS TO BETA TEST PSSR

The fact PushSquare tried to originally publish the story as normal, following the pattern of making it obvious core this page is to steer opinion towards agreeing & accepting all of Sony's trash, deceitful and illegal moves.

Because not everyone is a dead sheep, people said the OBVIOUS and THEN the phrasing was (jut a enough) different.

Why is there NO mention of PS5 ROM keys being leaked? We know why, because there is no defense, no way to undo. And is SAME as happened with PS3.

What really changed is my relationship with this page

"Hey, it's about time you upgrade to the console which rom files have been leaked"

Probably because there is no way to have a controlled conversation where damage is contained, since this is unfixable and can't be twisted and bent to take Sony's responsibility out of focus.

@katamariUK They don't care because they have us trapped in a monopoly empire. Imagine when they manage to stop physical editions altogether? Ps store is perfect display of how much they care

The most profitable videogame ever! Because Sony makes a fool out of consumers!

@BowTiesAreCool threw my pulse elite in the trash. What a joke Sony has become. The premium console that says game worse than base. Premium headset that doesn't link properly....

Star Wars: A New Nope
Star Wars: A No Hope
Star Wars: A "I rather not say, I got a sore throat"

@AverageGamer Sony probably wanted to sell and controller exclusively for PC / mobile.

No reason you can't choose to connect Bluetooth to the PS5

@TheFakulty Recommend playing regular first. One of the best games of my life. Although you probably know a lot, you will still have more of the original intended experience. Chronological add a new layer for another run.

@windxtravelerx I'm heading towards a PC next gen too. I have never gone so hard sinto a gen and I am truly disappointed.

Carioca here and I game since I was 5. I'm 38.

I'll get a PS6 eventually as I have a huge library by now. But, I will DEF be keeping the physical games going around. Might even begin buying some games I know I'll want as part of my physical collection before actually getting the 6.

I got a bunch of PS5 & PS4 games to lend if you're in Rio, btw (Whately86 @ PSN)

@Art_Vandelay Is congress socialist as well? Is the actual majority of political playmakers in Brazil socialists? Really?

@N0CYmr0k taking a stretch here, but you seem to be the kind of guy that talks down a foreign movie, because you're embarrassed to admit reading makes you feel challenged.

"Is it dubbed??"

@N0CYmr0k the funniest thing is that odds are you are probably from a "1st world" country, that invaded many foreign countries & stole their goods. Nowadays, said country complains of immigrants and how the world makes their perfect home less perfect. While what gave them the safety to become such a country (if you study your own history, I would be poverty was a big part of your society, when colonization what the new black), is what causes immigration to be a problem in the 1st place.

France stills collects money from their African ex colonies. Belgium killed millions in Congo, as King Leopold II or whatever made Belgium the prime country it kind of still seems to be.

England invaded and pillaged half the world. The Irish hate them, the English literally starved them. For profit.

It's all the same. And now you're talking big like you're special or something, talking about a (amazing) country you don't know F about. You're ignorant or just trying really really hard to come across as.

If that's the case, hats off

@N0CYmr0k do you know the population of Brazil? Do you know how many billionaires? How many millionaires? Your response only defines how limited your perception of Brazil ( I would be so bold to risk including the rest of the world) actually is.

I would go so far so say you sound very US born, but that would be xenophobic of me, and I am trying to grow past that.

@N0CYmr0k I would be offended, but it's clear your source of information is very limited regarding Brazil. Perhaps you should read more.

@Gamecuber BTW, GameCube was one of my favorite systems. The jump to 3d on the 64 wqas amazing. But the smoothness in GC was absurd. A lot of good games as well.

Everyone is going to push for all digital, we just gotta keep buying discs.

This feels like an article pushing towards full digital future. I'm sure either we have tech to repair discs or we can easily create it, since it's such an old tech.

Keep buying discs people.

@LogicStrikesAgain I see this as making your character feel more real in games.

Characters will say your names but also will evolve and adapt to you. So in RPGs, this means finally actually having real live effects onm choices or how you even talk to people. This is particularly exciting.

Imagine playing Titanfall 2, but you use your name and this tech. You'll feel that the conmnection witht he bot is actually with YOU. Thats crazy

That's werid, Sony has been so generous and consumer friendly, specially this gen.

What an unlucky coincidence, I guess, that whomever did get the PS Plus "free" version, was blocked from acquiring the digital version or something.... If you think about it, PS Plus is a paid service so you did spend money to be able to get hte "free" license, but that is just me being weird.

I'm sure this is all due to the fact that physical copies holds the market back. Once we are free and all digital, it'll be MUCH MUCH better.

I trust Sony will do what is best for us, no mater what.

In the end, even if I'm wrong, I can still pay for it. So why should I care?

This is the All Digital world so many are eager about. Monopoly, pure profit.

Theey have made it super clear how little they care. They put out PS5 talking about 4K aand 60fps, w/ 8K in the box (now removed), new controllers with a bunch a new gimmics but same drift guaranteed analog sticks (hall effect has been available since PS3), not even premium controller has hall effect. They evn sell you the crappy piece of analog that you will absolutely have to swap. This is like spitting in your face.

Flood of remakes / remasters, alongside lack of proper exclusives.

Lack of info, updates, commitment, deadlines, road map for current gen.

Absurd amount of cross-gen, extending as much as possible last gen

BUT THEN DROPPING LAST GEN IN PS PLUS?

While raising PS Plus prices.

Games got more expensive this gen as well, but with most of them not feeling like next gen-worth-more kind of game.

$700 Pro, no drive, no premium controller or headphones, no STAND. If even just ONE game played WORSE than BASE, would already by an awful shame. But it wasn''t just one.

Pulse Elite (I got these) not premium at all.

Thing is that Sony got very cocky because they dominated last Gen and MIcrosoft messed up their greedy gameplan. So SOny thinks they can just milk us dry because we won't stray away.

It's like they don't remember they got ahead when Nintendo messed up with Wii.

We PAY for a service that was offline for a whole day and they don't even care to explain anything.

It's like:

I am making the best salary of my LIFE. I can buy any game I want. But doesn't mean I'll just become stupid and accept any kind of BS because I can afford itwhatever crap we push, we expect you to chew and swallow. And whomever complains is just a crybaby. Pay more, get less and love it.

FIGHT FOR PHYSICAL GAMES. Once it's gone, the whole market is gonna change... For worse.

I've been calling it.

If games are still being done for both platforms, which means games are still being released for PS4.

So why would Sony just turn their backs of PS4 owners that sign up to PS Plus?

They don't have the gust to officially end the generation because there are still SO many players there. So why not keep adding PS4 games to Essential??

Because Sont is particularly super anticonsumer this generation.

My "attempt to at least save the story" Ending:

Main villain is a hive mind that is invading multiple earths throughout the multiverse, right? And he dominates minds.

So, in the end, you end up being saved by the actual JL and find out you were under all along. The game was you resisiting in your mind and fighting back, along with everyone else. The reality you see is "constructed" by all the minds taken over by brainiac trying to fight him together. This ends up weaking the villain, which gives JL the opening to finish him the real world, thus releaisng all minds.

The End

@rusty82 I dont understand it either. But was going to sleep here in Rio and confronted by the oportunity.

Couldnt find anything relvant to say. But I took my shot.

Worth it. Today feels better already.

@Ogbert I bet in the future they'll combine this with the walking matts for the final product. Have you seen these things? you can kind of walk around on top of it.

So you could have 2 different end products; one where you actually walk in the environment, duck for cover etc.

And another following your idea, would be awesome as well. Imagine if you could play with up to 4 friends. The car shakes and rumbles and as you drive, you feel like you're moving as everything moves around you. And even the driver can shoot as well. You can trade places, etc.

And as for the smells, imagine being able to smell the gunpowder, the jungle, dirt, rain etc. It would really trick your brain into believing you're actually there. Specially if you're in a car or something of the sort

@RockStarDougal I'm investing in Hall Effect analogs. Hopefully, never have drift issues again.

@BiosNova Same here. Had issues with the jack connection on the DS, bought the best possible option for the PS5 (or so I thought). So frustrating.

@dskatter Rounding to 38 next Friday. Starting to feel it....

@dskatter Do you consider the portal's screen too small as well, or if they made the portal into a handheld, would the screen size suffice?

Honest question.

Honest question here: If Sony used the PS4 tech for a portable, would that make it easier to invest in it? Like, isntead of creating a new tech and split resources financing 2 systems, they could adapt the old gen into portable hardware. I would imagine this could make it easier to have "cross gen", maybe? Not having the exact games per say, but I would imagine it would be easier to get the last gen version buffed up for current gen. Since it's a portable, perhaps it would even make it much more acceptable for the versions to be so different.

I suppose the resources invested would be higher than the way current cross gen have been made, but I believe it would be much less than developing for 2 completely different machines (like comparing Nintendo's N64 & Gameboy).

I don't know much, but I dare to dream. Hahahhaha

"UNFAIR" to blame the billionaire company that put 8K & 4K/120 on the base PS5 packaging and will make you pay nearly (if not exactly or more) DOUBLE for you to have their PRO with the exact things that came with the base. It's not that expensive to make a freaking base, is it?

But if I had people that would defend my company while I sell stands and drives separately from a premium product while giving them one of the exact same controller and didn't even care to certify that games would even run better... Hell, I'd do the same.

@Sweetz Still doesn't justify why it's acceptable for this to ever have run in that state on a super top notch premium device. And it's not a case of a single exception.

Sony doesn't give a craps ass melted in butter about us. The bottom line is just that. They dodged allowing games being released in "acceptable" states, full of issues, while they already had the pro in the makes. This Pro should take our gaze away from the things they didn't deliver for the base ps5 and it doesn't even do that.

But you can always see it in a way that is more acceptable to you.

@DennisReynolds You know why I blame it on Sony? Because it ain't a Microsoft console. Their machine, they allowed a 700 premium product to run a game worse than base.

If this is ok for you, suck to be you. For me, not cool bro. 700, no pro controller, no base, no disc drive? While the base getting a bunch of game with issues? Who allows that? Would you hire a cook for your restaurant if he said he could cook chinese but he can actually do some of the dishes. But if you hire his brother, you can def get the Chinese dishes you paid for the first time? And then his brother makes a dish even worse than him? Would you just pay them their premium Chinese dish maker salary and say that is the market?

But maybe I'm just either too old or I grew up in a "3rd world" country and tend to try to give value to the money I earned being away from house and family. Maybe to me it's just significant that something i loved is being abused.

But hey, the market, right?

pay the 2 Chinese cooks, bro.

@Art_Vandelay The moment they realize the BR are spreading, we'll start having immigrant complaints. This is a European Website, after all.

Hope they don't try to shoot our boat down.

But then again, we're always likeable people.

They'd sink our boats if they didn't get to know us. Once they knew us, they'd hide us.

Or you, you got pao de queijo.

They knew about Rio, they'd still shoot down my boat, I guess.

I'll just catch a crocodile, because here in Rio we learn how to swim early, arrombados!

This is all just a joke, I love it here. Please don't report me.

@Art_Vandelay Damn right, Vulture from the shanty towns. HAHAHAH

And we just looooove em chickens, deep fried.

HAHAHAHAHA

First Champions of the Hen House

@TechaNinja I've taken my time to read replies.

basically, PS5 Pro is supposed to deliver the experience promised by PS5 (box had 8K & 4K /120 FPS), with no stand or drive or pro controller. AND there are games (even if just one) running WORSE than a base PS5 from 2020. But people are STILL going out of their way to justify why it's ok.

That's why it's "ok" to release games that don't work the way they should. It's a closed environment released 4 years ago, man. Come on! What would happen to any of us if our work output was this? I most certainly wouldn't be able to afford a freaking base ps5.

The advantages are none compared to the price it costs, and the fact is so black and white that you even have an example of things running worse.

And the worse? Why do you think Sony wasted millions on Concord & WB on Suicide Squad? Such expensive flops?

Because them boys will just justify their way to make their money back while they just keep pushing whatever the hell they ant out of us.

And they will keep fighting for the right to be stupid and allow the market to get worse for EVERYONE.

Sony won't dedicate itself or get better because they love us. The PS3 changed direction because people were still vocal about it.

PS5 Pro is the biggest crap in our face since CB 2077

Where are this Gen's games? The games we were supposed to be blown away about? 1-2 gen exclusives a year? WTF?

And to think 700 is acceptable for another broken promise of delivering what they sold to us 4 years ago.

I got 2 kids and I wokr way too much. But maybe I'm just a brazillian dude and the european colonizer majority here just likes to lick boots. I don't.

As far as attack, I don't really give a crap. I'm a complainer and I will complain if I am consuming or not. This is society. If you wanna suck up to everything then just don't even talk and save us all some time.

I'll consume and voice my opinion (with respect for my fellow other) until I die or am banned. I'm 38, I don't have time for this crap. I waited my whole life to see games get to this point of quality and we can't even push the market WE FREAKING MAKE GO ROUND to deliver us better products?

Basically, if a game playing worse than base on a premium console is acceptable, I just think the bar is quite low.