Who's hyped about this? CD burned through all of their goodwill from me with the first one. I ain't getting hyped for anything from them until after it releases in a finished state.
@wildcat_kickz Kitchen knives can be used to kill people. And that's why you wouldn't give them to someone who says they're going to use them to kill people. Executives in the game and film industry have been perfectly and abundantly clear that they're most interested in AI so they can cut labor costs. That means firing creative people and replacing them with AI.
@wildcat_kickz AI absolutely has uses as a tool. But the problem is that that isn't how it's going to be used. How it should work is as a tool to help creative people create games. How it'll actually work is that suits will fire the creative people and then try to replace their creativity with AI.
@Orpheus79V Also Gravity Rush 2 came out within three months of Resident Evil 7, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Nier Automata, and Horizon Zero Dawn. If it had come out at a less busy time with decent marketing it would have done much better.
@Fighting_Game_Loser I think there's a lot of truth to that. Nintendo doesn't make much difference in marketing between a smaller budget game like Pikmin and a bigger budget game like Zelda. And because Nintendo is always cognizant of release schedules those smaller budget games end up doing really well. I remember when Gravity Rush 2 came out. I had to go out of my way to find information on it. It also came out within a few months of Nier Automata, Breath of the Wild, and Horizon Zero Dawn. That's what the problem is.
@Northern_munkey I mean generally I think Japanese devs seem to make better games. But more pertinent to this article, I don't hear a lot about how the people running Japanese studios are super awful people. I do seem to hear it not infrequently with western devs though.
@Nem I think between like 2010 and 2017 there definitely was a period where people weren't interested in AA games. But then AAA games started becoming live service eslop and people went back to wanting good creative AA games again. I think that's also why the Wii U had a great library that nobody wanted at the time until they were rereleased on the Switch and everyone realized all of those games were amazing.
@Rich33 I don't know why that would be an unpopular take. It's objectively true. You had covid which destroyed supply chains. That was followed up by global inflation during the economic recovery from covid. And now when things were just starting to get a bit settled you have the World's two largest economies throwing pot shot tariffs at each other. It's going to be difficult for a price drop to occur under these circumstances. There's just been way too much uncertainty over the last five years.
@Jireland92 I just bought my PS5 last month. Most games like RE4 I was just playing on my PS4. Astro Bot is what finally sold me on upgrading. So I think exclusives have definitely helped ship units the last year or so.
Also over 80% of the consoles sold have been the disc version. The death of physical media is overblown. People wouldn't be paying more for a disc drive if they didn't want it.
I recently bought Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles for my Sega Genesis. I wanted to get the version with the original Ice Cap Zone music. It's so nice being able to slap a 30+ year old cartridge into a 30+ year old console and not worry about whether it'll work or not.
"with company bigwigs typically looking at the profit margins of live service titles and concluding that everything should follow suit"
The actual problem is CEOs don't even look at the real numbers. They look at the profit margins for the 3 or 4 live service titles that are very successful. They seem to completely ignore the wasteland of failed live service titles. Some of which die in less than a month.
Meanwhile Nintendo is smoking the competition with hardware from 2006. How? Games. Nobody wants a machine with power if there aren't any games to play.
"According to analyst Mat Piscatella, 49% of all PS5 hardware sold in the US last year did not include a disc drive."
That gives us no information. How many of those were the PS5 pro? And how many of them were bought with the intention of adding a disc drive to it later?
The thing is. In a potential good future we will have creative people using AI to help streamline the process. That's fine. Artistic people using AI as a tool is fine. The problem is that that isn't at all how this is going to end up working out. The future we will inevitably face is that the creative and artistic people will be fired and generative AI will replace them completely. And we'll see a bankruptcy of creativity as a result.
You spent decades building your brand and your company's strengths. And then in a span of a few years you throw all of that away to try and chase trends. This was only ever going to end in disaster. Stick to your bread and butter. It's what got you success in the past and it's what will get you success in the future. Astro Bot is what makes PlayStation great. Not Concord.
The ps5 pro is going to appeal to people who almost certainly have some physical backlog of ps4 and ps5 games. I can't for the life of me understand why Sony wouldn't have anticipated that.
@anoyonmus Astro Bot lighting up the sales figures and winning awards. And it isn't some subscription scam. It isn't some live service trash with loot boxes and skins and other microtransactions. It's just a good game that's fun. You'd think these suits with business degrees would learn.
I will quit the hobby before I ever pay for a subscription model. Full stop. Make a game worth buying. Then sell the game. It's literally that simple. A subscription model will make big budget games that take years to make like Zelda and Naughty Dog stuff completely untenable. No thanks. Not interested. Not ever.
@Balosi True. Seems like politician levels of skewing numbers to tell a narrative. It might be true that only a small fraction of overall revenue is physical games. But it's also true that around 60% of Sony's first party games are sold physical as well. Basically which numbers you use depends on what story you want to tell.
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Re: Black Myth: Wukong Sold a Humongous Number of Copies on PS5
@tameshiyaku Nah. Donkey Kong.
Re: Sony Clarifies the Difference Between First-Party, Second-Party, and So On
And games like Concord are called "whoops party."
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Sequel Hype Already Rising Thanks to Ambitious Job Listings
Who's hyped about this? CD burned through all of their goodwill from me with the first one. I ain't getting hyped for anything from them until after it releases in a finished state.
Re: Phil Spencer Posits Generative AI Tech Preserving Old Games, Called 'Idiotic' by Expert
@wildcat_kickz Kitchen knives can be used to kill people. And that's why you wouldn't give them to someone who says they're going to use them to kill people. Executives in the game and film industry have been perfectly and abundantly clear that they're most interested in AI so they can cut labor costs. That means firing creative people and replacing them with AI.
Re: Phil Spencer Posits Generative AI Tech Preserving Old Games, Called 'Idiotic' by Expert
@wildcat_kickz AI absolutely has uses as a tool. But the problem is that that isn't how it's going to be used. How it should work is as a tool to help creative people create games. How it'll actually work is that suits will fire the creative people and then try to replace their creativity with AI.
Re: Phil Spencer Posits Generative AI Tech Preserving Old Games, Called 'Idiotic' by Expert
@nessisonett True. Phil Spencer was supposed to turn xbox around. It seems all he's done is help run it into the ground.
Re: Rumour: Rocksteady's Next Single-Player Game Based on Batman Beyond, May Be a PS5 Exclusive
It's based on Batman Beyond? Man I am hyped now.
Re: Talking Point: Has the Market for AA Games on PS5 Really Disappeared?
@Orpheus79V Also Gravity Rush 2 came out within three months of Resident Evil 7, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Nier Automata, and Horizon Zero Dawn. If it had come out at a less busy time with decent marketing it would have done much better.
Re: Talking Point: Has the Market for AA Games on PS5 Really Disappeared?
@Fighting_Game_Loser I think there's a lot of truth to that. Nintendo doesn't make much difference in marketing between a smaller budget game like Pikmin and a bigger budget game like Zelda. And because Nintendo is always cognizant of release schedules those smaller budget games end up doing really well. I remember when Gravity Rush 2 came out. I had to go out of my way to find information on it. It also came out within a few months of Nier Automata, Breath of the Wild, and Horizon Zero Dawn. That's what the problem is.
Re: Xbox Creator Believes Content and Experiences Are More Important for Consoles Than Graphics
Nintendo has known this fact since 2006.
Re: Sony Hits Back Hard at Bungie Lead's $200 Million Lawsuit
@Lowdefal That's fair
Re: Sony Hits Back Hard at Bungie Lead's $200 Million Lawsuit
@Northern_munkey I mean generally I think Japanese devs seem to make better games. But more pertinent to this article, I don't hear a lot about how the people running Japanese studios are super awful people. I do seem to hear it not infrequently with western devs though.
Re: Sony Hits Back Hard at Bungie Lead's $200 Million Lawsuit
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Re: Sony Japan Studio Closed Because AA Market 'Disappeared', Says Shu Yoshida
@Nem I think between like 2010 and 2017 there definitely was a period where people weren't interested in AA games. But then AAA games started becoming live service eslop and people went back to wanting good creative AA games again. I think that's also why the Wii U had a great library that nobody wanted at the time until they were rereleased on the Switch and everyone realized all of those games were amazing.
Re: PC Users Furious Over Lost Soul Aside Being Blocked from Sale in 130 Countries
Honestly I'm just disappointed the game is going to PC at all. Console exclusives for life.
Re: Poll: What Were Your Favourite PS5 Games from State of Play?
My favorite game was Resident Evil 9.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for February 2025?
I don't have PS plus. And when I did I never actually downloaded any of the free games. Cuz I'd much rather just buy them.
Re: 5 More Astro Bot PS5 Levels Coming for Free, First Is Out Today
Who’s gonna complain about free DLC?
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
@Rich33 I don't know why that would be an unpopular take. It's objectively true. You had covid which destroyed supply chains. That was followed up by global inflation during the economic recovery from covid. And now when things were just starting to get a bit settled you have the World's two largest economies throwing pot shot tariffs at each other. It's going to be difficult for a price drop to occur under these circumstances. There's just been way too much uncertainty over the last five years.
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
@Member_the_game Literally true for me until Astro Bot.
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
@Jireland92 I just bought my PS5 last month. Most games like RE4 I was just playing on my PS4. Astro Bot is what finally sold me on upgrading. So I think exclusives have definitely helped ship units the last year or so.
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
Also over 80% of the consoles sold have been the disc version. The death of physical media is overblown. People wouldn't be paying more for a disc drive if they didn't want it.
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
@get2sammyb Totally Agree. The Pro should have been $550-$600 with the slim taking a little price drop.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for February 2025?
No Resident Evil 9. 0/10.
Re: State of Play Confirmed for Wednesday, 40+ Minutes of PS5 News and Updates
Resident Evil 9 here we come.
Re: Looks Like Resident Evil 5 Is Getting a PS5 Port Too
If the upgrades are free for people who already own the game. Then that's cool I guess.
Re: Poll: Did the PSN Outage Ruin Your Gaming Plans Over the Weekend?
Been playing Astro Bot. Outage didn't bother me.
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
I recently bought Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles for my Sega Genesis. I wanted to get the version with the original Ice Cap Zone music. It's so nice being able to slap a 30+ year old cartridge into a 30+ year old console and not worry about whether it'll work or not.
Re: Original Dragon Age Writer Responds to EA's Live Service Obsession with Common Sense
"with company bigwigs typically looking at the profit margins of live service titles and concluding that everything should follow suit"
The actual problem is CEOs don't even look at the real numbers. They look at the profit margins for the 3 or 4 live service titles that are very successful. They seem to completely ignore the wasteland of failed live service titles. Some of which die in less than a month.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy a PS5 Mouse Accessory?
Nah. The Dualsense is one of the best controllers ever. If I wanted to play with a mouse I'd just play on PC.
Re: How Well Do You Know Ratchet & Clank?
4/15. Honestly pretty good considering I've never played any of the games.
Re: Poll: How Long Does It Take You to Beat a Big RPG?
I am very selective about what long games I start these days. There just ain't enough time in life to play multiple 100 hour plus games in a year.
Re: Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown's Reported 1.3 Million Sales Not Enough for Ubisoft
Ubisoft needed it to bail out their entire company and pay for all those lawsuits. There's no way it was ever going to do that. No game could.
Re: Xbox Was December's Biggest Publisher, and 64% of Its Sales Were on PS5, PS4
Xbox is officially a third party publisher.
Re: Xbox Boss Wants to Beat PS6 on Hardware Capabilities, Not Necessarily Games
Meanwhile Nintendo is smoking the competition with hardware from 2006. How? Games. Nobody wants a machine with power if there aren't any games to play.
Re: Square Enix Backtracks, Suggesting Tifa Isn't Best Girl After All (for Cloud)
Sorry Square. The Tifa cat is out of the bag. Can't put it back in now. I'll always stand by that Aeris is for Cloud but Aerith is not.
Re: Fans Are Buying Fewer Boxed Video Games Than Ever in the US
"According to analyst Mat Piscatella, 49% of all PS5 hardware sold in the US last year did not include a disc drive."
That gives us no information. How many of those were the PS5 pro? And how many of them were bought with the intention of adding a disc drive to it later?
Re: Capcom Seems Sold on Using AI to Help Out with Game Development
The thing is. In a potential good future we will have creative people using AI to help streamline the process. That's fine. Artistic people using AI as a tool is fine. The problem is that that isn't at all how this is going to end up working out. The future we will inevitably face is that the creative and artistic people will be fired and generative AI will replace them completely. And we'll see a bankruptcy of creativity as a result.
Re: Poll: How Would You Have Reacted to a Live Service God of War Announcement?
I would have been outraged that Bluepoint was wasting their talent.
Re: Why Hasn't Sony Done Anything with Bloodborne? Shuhei Yoshida Has a Theory
The reason is because Bluepoint was too busy making a live service game instead of a Bloodborne remaster.
Re: Sony Cancels Bluepoint, Bend Studio PS5 Games, One Being a Live-Service God of War Title
Bluepoint was working on a live service game instead of a PS5 Bloodborne remaster? What? Why?
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
You spent decades building your brand and your company's strengths. And then in a span of a few years you throw all of that away to try and chase trends. This was only ever going to end in disaster. Stick to your bread and butter. It's what got you success in the past and it's what will get you success in the future. Astro Bot is what makes PlayStation great. Not Concord.
Re: MGS Delta: Snake Eater Funko Pops Have a Release Date Before the Game Does
I really hope this game is good but Konami is absolutely a wait until release type company. I ain't preordering anything from them.
Re: The Elusive PS5 Disc Drives Are Back in Stock Right Now in the US
The ps5 pro is going to appeal to people who almost certainly have some physical backlog of ps4 and ps5 games. I can't for the life of me understand why Sony wouldn't have anticipated that.
Re: Video Game Industry 'Doesn't Want a Game Pass', Says Market Analyst
@anoyonmus Astro Bot lighting up the sales figures and winning awards. And it isn't some subscription scam. It isn't some live service trash with loot boxes and skins and other microtransactions. It's just a good game that's fun. You'd think these suits with business degrees would learn.
Re: Video Game Industry 'Doesn't Want a Game Pass', Says Market Analyst
I will quit the hobby before I ever pay for a subscription model. Full stop. Make a game worth buying. Then sell the game. It's literally that simple. A subscription model will make big budget games that take years to make like Zelda and Naughty Dog stuff completely untenable. No thanks. Not interested. Not ever.
Re: Square Enix Vows to Deny Toxic Fans Its Wonderful Games, Services
I'm becoming increasingly embarrassed to be a gamer thanks to these people.
Re: PS5 Pro Bettered as Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Reveals PC Specs, Features
Change my mind:
120 fps and ray tracing are gimmicks.
Re: PS5 Tipped to Top Switch 2 Sales in the US This Year
They launch Switch 2 with Mario Odyssey 2 and Mario Kart 9 and those projections gonna be wrong.
Re: The State of the UK's Physical Games Market Might Explain PS5 Pro's Lack of Disc Drive
@Balosi True. Seems like politician levels of skewing numbers to tell a narrative. It might be true that only a small fraction of overall revenue is physical games. But it's also true that around 60% of Sony's first party games are sold physical as well. Basically which numbers you use depends on what story you want to tell.