E33 even launched day one on Gamepass. So it got the early pay out from Xbox to be on there and the sales success after to add to it. I enjoyed the hell out of FF7R but 16 got boring fast.
@Flaming_Kaiser Yea… so use some critical thinking here on what you said. What is really devaluing gaming? Free games filled with MTs or Gamepass? Because Gamepass is at least giving many developers an avenue of being paid up front and presenting an unknown IP to millions straight at launch, when the majority of gamers wouldn’t even give them a second glance.
I think most people that wanted to play it already did. I would have bought it on Xbox if it had released there two years ago but I own it on PS5 and besides some epic boss battles it wasn’t the greatest game. Where as I will probably rebuy FF7 for Xbox to play through it again. FF16 is not worth the double dip and replay.
@Flaming_Kaiser if a game is great I will play no matter if it’s on Gamepass or not. I bought Split Fiction, MHW, The Midnight Walk, Mario Kart World all at launch so far this year. I have a good handful of games I am planning on grabbing at launch coming Borderlands 4, Killing Floor 3, Ninja Gaiden Ragebound and Yotei to name just a few. $20 for gamepass isn’t breaking the bank and will still give me the games I am really looking forward to like Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden 4, BlackOps, Grounded 2, High on Life 2 and loads of others. I’m never starved for games.
@Flaming_Kaiser yes. And they sell very well. Still doesn’t stop the fact that there are a lot more MindsEyes out there than GoWs. Point being, Gamepass isn’t the problem, the problem is the games being released and how many are being thrown out there.
Thing with Gamepass is it allows me to play more games. I sure as hell wouldn’t be buying all these games, that would be A TON of money. So it would come down to picking through the games and waiting on others. And I feel like a lot of others would be in that boat as well. So really is there much of a difference other than people with Gamepass can play the games out right at launch? It also allows me to buy more games outside of the sub since $20 isn’t all that much. But than you factor in time to play them all…. How many games release a week? Like 20? It’s all become way too bloated.
What is a price people would pay for a SP focused shooter? I got 30 hrs out of 100% Doom Dark Ages. I was addicting to the play style. Played through on Nightmare and absolutely loved it. It runs great and has great production. I guess you could put it on the easiest setting and breezed through the game but why? That’s not how Doom is supposed to be played. Maybe Doom should get rid of the easier settings, the lowest setting should be hard and than go up from there. Much like FromSoft games and even Returnal. If they weren’t challenging they wouldn’t be fun.
@ChrisDeku Tassi was and is a huge Bungie fan. So is Destin, they are both calling out Bungie now because they need to be. I used to be a HUGE Bungie fan, I guess I still am just not of this newer iteration but their Halo games will always be in my top games ever created. Just sucks to see what they have become.
This is the 5th time Bungie has been busted for plagiarism. It’s sad to see how this once mighty studio has fallen. Was my favorite developer back in the Halo days. Also I put hrs into the Arc Raiders tech test and it was fantastic. Everything I’ve heard from people that got a chance to play Marathon was either “meh” to “it’s bad”. Good luck Bungie, I hope they can somehow come back from all this but I am guessing they will be next on the chopping block.
I know a lot of PC gamers that have moved over to using Gamepass because of the rising costs of not only gaming but everything. With how many games are coming out and how expensive it is becoming I don’t find this news surprising at all. But Doom has been my favorite game to come out this year, I absolutely adored it. Rip and tear Slayers!
There is a ton to play rn. I have put time into both Oblivion and E33 on Gamepass but everything gaming wise was put on hold for the Arc Raiders tech test this weekend. What a fantastic game that is turning into.
Helldivers 2 paid off. It’s great and still almost a year later has 100k-200k people online at any given time. And it’s a smaller, pve focused game which to see those kind of numbers almost a year later is a pretty big success.
@Plankton-Warrior you have that backwards. ND is making this game the way they want. You guys are trying to change their art to fit your views. Making your whole spiel hypocritical. Also I was in a band 10 years ago, we made our music, NOT what others thought we should be making to appeal to more people, that takes the heart and passion out of art.
@Johnion the one’s trying to force their views on the art. You. Much like a church attacks anything they don’t agree with. If you don’t like it move along, but instead you attack it and try to force the artists and developers to make something you want. Which from what I can gather is a bland, corporate cutout of safety so not to upset your feelings. Both sides seem to want safe bland characters that meet a certain requirement whether it comes to appearance, how they speak, sexuality, gender etc. soon we will end up with what you all want. Boring ass characters or silent ones. Which I guess won’t be entirely bad because people will just turn back to indies to find more interesting and compelling characters.
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Re: Square Enix 'Aware' of Clair Obscur's Success, Ponders Turn-Based RPG Revival
E33 even launched day one on Gamepass. So it got the early pay out from Xbox to be on there and the sales success after to add to it. I enjoyed the hell out of FF7R but 16 got boring fast.
Re: Atlus JRPG Metaphor: ReFantazio Tags on 1 Million Sales Since Launch
@trestan lol nice try but no.
Re: 'People Are Less Willing to Pay': Dev Speaks Out Against Day One Releases on PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass
@Flaming_Kaiser Yea… so use some critical thinking here on what you said. What is really devaluing gaming? Free games filled with MTs or Gamepass? Because Gamepass is at least giving many developers an avenue of being paid up front and presenting an unknown IP to millions straight at launch, when the majority of gamers wouldn’t even give them a second glance.
Re: Talking Point: What's Your PS5 Game of the Year for 2025 So Far?
1. Helldivers 2
2. ^this
3. Liburtaaaaaay
Re: Final Fantasy 16 May Have Underperformed on PS5, But It's Doing Terribly on Xbox
I think most people that wanted to play it already did. I would have bought it on Xbox if it had released there two years ago but I own it on PS5 and besides some epic boss battles it wasn’t the greatest game. Where as I will probably rebuy FF7 for Xbox to play through it again. FF16 is not worth the double dip and replay.
Re: 'People Are Less Willing to Pay': Dev Speaks Out Against Day One Releases on PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass
@Flaming_Kaiser well majority of people are playing live service or F2P games.
Re: 'People Are Less Willing to Pay': Dev Speaks Out Against Day One Releases on PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass
@Flaming_Kaiser if a game is great I will play no matter if it’s on Gamepass or not. I bought Split Fiction, MHW, The Midnight Walk, Mario Kart World all at launch so far this year. I have a good handful of games I am planning on grabbing at launch coming Borderlands 4, Killing Floor 3, Ninja Gaiden Ragebound and Yotei to name just a few. $20 for gamepass isn’t breaking the bank and will still give me the games I am really looking forward to like Outer Worlds 2, Ninja Gaiden 4, BlackOps, Grounded 2, High on Life 2 and loads of others. I’m never starved for games.
Re: 'People Are Less Willing to Pay': Dev Speaks Out Against Day One Releases on PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass
@Flaming_Kaiser yes. And they sell very well. Still doesn’t stop the fact that there are a lot more MindsEyes out there than GoWs. Point being, Gamepass isn’t the problem, the problem is the games being released and how many are being thrown out there.
Re: 'People Are Less Willing to Pay': Dev Speaks Out Against Day One Releases on PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass
Thing with Gamepass is it allows me to play more games. I sure as hell wouldn’t be buying all these games, that would be A TON of money. So it would come down to picking through the games and waiting on others. And I feel like a lot of others would be in that boat as well. So really is there much of a difference other than people with Gamepass can play the games out right at launch? It also allows me to buy more games outside of the sub since $20 isn’t all that much. But than you factor in time to play them all…. How many games release a week? Like 20? It’s all become way too bloated.
Re: 'People Are Less Willing to Pay': Dev Speaks Out Against Day One Releases on PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass
Well when ya got games like MindsEye releasing for $60….
Re: Returnal Dev Commits to 'Premium' PS5 Experiences as Sony Continues Live Service Push
Saros is the game I am most excited for coming from Sony. I loved Returnal!
Re: DOOM: The Dark Ages Attracts Three Million Players, Dev's Biggest Launch in Its History
The game is a success already, people wanting games to flop is crazy. It’s a great game. Congrats to the devs!
Re: Fans Discuss the Reason Behind DOOM: The Dark Ages' Lukewarm Opening
What is a price people would pay for a SP focused shooter? I got 30 hrs out of 100% Doom Dark Ages. I was addicting to the play style. Played through on Nightmare and absolutely loved it. It runs great and has great production. I guess you could put it on the easiest setting and breezed through the game but why? That’s not how Doom is supposed to be played. Maybe Doom should get rid of the easier settings, the lowest setting should be hard and than go up from there. Much like FromSoft games and even Returnal. If they weren’t challenging they wouldn’t be fun.
Re: Marathon Maker's Morale in Tatters as Art Director Forced to Admit Asset Theft in Ill-Conceived Livestream
@ChrisDeku Tassi was and is a huge Bungie fan. So is Destin, they are both calling out Bungie now because they need to be. I used to be a HUGE Bungie fan, I guess I still am just not of this newer iteration but their Halo games will always be in my top games ever created. Just sucks to see what they have become.
Re: Marathon Maker's Morale in Tatters as Art Director Forced to Admit Asset Theft in Ill-Conceived Livestream
@nomither6 I wouldn’t say that because they made 5 excellent Halo games. Destiny was definitely an up and down game and Marathon looks like a mess.
Re: Marathon Maker's Morale in Tatters as Art Director Forced to Admit Asset Theft in Ill-Conceived Livestream
This is the 5th time Bungie has been busted for plagiarism. It’s sad to see how this once mighty studio has fallen. Was my favorite developer back in the Halo days. Also I put hrs into the Arc Raiders tech test and it was fantastic. Everything I’ve heard from people that got a chance to play Marathon was either “meh” to “it’s bad”. Good luck Bungie, I hope they can somehow come back from all this but I am guessing they will be next on the chopping block.
Re: Inquiry Already Underway Over Lacklustre DOOM: The Dark Ages Opening
I know a lot of PC gamers that have moved over to using Gamepass because of the rising costs of not only gaming but everything. With how many games are coming out and how expensive it is becoming I don’t find this news surprising at all. But Doom has been my favorite game to come out this year, I absolutely adored it. Rip and tear
Slayers!
Re: Plenty of People Are Playing Expedition 33 on PS5, Despite Having to Actually Buy It
There is a ton to play rn. I have put time into both Oblivion and E33 on Gamepass but everything gaming wise was put on hold for the Arc Raiders tech test this weekend. What a fantastic game that is turning into.
Re: Talking Point: Is Forza Horizon 5's PS5 Price Point Too High?
@OldGamer999 no way Sony would allow that. They want that 30% and the higher they can sell a game the higher that 30% is.
Re: Unfazed by Concord, Sony Doubles Down on Exploring Service Games
Helldivers 2 paid off. It’s great and still almost a year later has 100k-200k people online at any given time. And it’s a smaller, pve focused game which to see those kind of numbers almost a year later is a pretty big success.
Re: Game of the Year: #9 - Helldivers 2
@wildcat_kickz your break time is over!! Back to Erata Prime with you!! For liburTAAAAAAAAAY!!!
Re: Game of the Year: #9 - Helldivers 2
Game of the Year #1 you mean
Re: Game of the Year: Stephen's Top 5 PS5 Games of 2024
1. Helldivers 2
2. Silent Hill 2
3. Space Marine 2
4. FF7R
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5 Action Game of 2024
How is Helldivers 2 not on this??? Not only is it not listed but not winning??
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@Plankton-Warrior you have that backwards. ND is making this game the way they want. You guys are trying to change their art to fit your views. Making your whole spiel hypocritical. Also I was in a band 10 years ago, we made our music, NOT what others thought we should be making to appeal to more people, that takes the heart and passion out of art.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@Johnion the one’s trying to force their views on the art. You. Much like a church attacks anything they don’t agree with. If you don’t like it move along, but instead you attack it and try to force the artists and developers to make something you want. Which from what I can gather is a bland, corporate cutout of safety so not to upset your feelings. Both sides seem to want safe bland characters that meet a certain requirement whether it comes to appearance, how they speak, sexuality, gender etc. soon we will end up with what you all want. Boring ass characters or silent ones. Which I guess won’t be entirely bad because people will just turn back to indies to find more interesting and compelling characters.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@Johnion yes censorship is always the answer! /s
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@Johnion because I don’t give a ***** about politics and the fact that this is about politics is just embarrassing.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
The DEI- Woke complainers suck the fun out of everything. Really tired of it.
Re: Former Blizzard Boss Slams Marvel Rivals, Comparing It to Horizon-Like Light of Motiram
Watching people just letting China take over gaming has been a wild thing to watch.