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@MattSilverado all of those game you named are old as dirt tho. they not worth paying an ongoing subscription to keep playing so unless you play them all in a couple months you could have rented or bought them for cheap.

I use PS Now from time to time and while I found a lot of old good games on there too, its just not worth an ongoing subscription fee.

The only way a subscription based service can work for the gaming industry is if it becomes the standard for ALL game access, not just 1st party and old games. But in order for that to happen they need a strategy for it to be consumer cost friendly AND developer profitable.

Sony as well as 3rd party publisher's biggest games sell 10-15m on PS alone. Some even more. Publishers keep 70% of the cut. so @ $70 per game, thats $49 profit per game. so at just 10m sales thats $490m profit off one game. Looking at a year like 2020 with game releases like AC, COD, 2077, all the sports games, TLOU2 with potential of selling 10m minimum on PS, thats $3.4b just off those games. Thats how much Sony would have to make off sub fees to make it worthwhile for them and other publishers to launch their games into a subscription service. Assuming each subscriber pays $10/month (120/year) they would need 29m subscribers just to pay off those 7 games, now think about the hundreds of games that release every year.

There's a reason why as big as Netflix is they still dont get day 1 blockbuster movies and TV shows. Netflix instead invested into their own studios to make quality Netflix movies and TV shows and that seems to be the route MS is going with their recent spending spree but we gotta wait and see how their game quality turns out.

@thefourfoldroot bruh finally someone else sees it. Everyone keep asking Sony to respond when they already did years ago! Game Pass is just better prioritized and marketed by MS but PS Now is actually a much better service. 800 games (400 downloadable PS4 games) vs 200 games on game pass. You definitely get more out of PS Now. Sony just aint pushing it yet

@kingv84 well, looking how Gears Tactics just bombed and the way Halo Infinite looks I would say the heavy investment MS has put into game pass and acquisitions is already starting to show in the quality of their games. I have a feeling game pass will be flooded with microtransactions down the line too.

but i thought 120FPS was only possible on the Series X! How can the weaker PS5 do that too?!😭

says the xbox fanboy

@theheadofabroom it had to be a lucky guess on the last question lol otherwise, i applaud you

@RicksReflection frfr MS should really be questioned on that front. Why go through the trouble and even ask other companies to go through the trouble to develop something so specific when we can just all work together to pioneer universal devices.

@theheadofabroom you deserve a trophy, Thanks!

@michaelrprez External HDD route is what I was thinking too. At least until SSD prices come down. Im glad Sony thought of that and made super fast 10gbps USB ports so swapping games between both drives wont be much of a hassle. Storage options are a win win on the PS5

@Medic_Alert speculating based off one man's "vision" to pan out sounds like hopes to me. I read the update on MS SSD card plans and it sounded like a cry out response to PS5's teardown after they realized xbox players will be capped. We dont know if they will pursue making more options but i do know with 99.9% certainty that universal SSD prices will come down and there will be n abundance of options.

@Medic_Alert yeah... some of us are speculating based on history while others are speculating based off hopes. Its baffling you still continue to argue the benefits of a free market vs proprietary products.

Im not saying $149 for 500gb is the deal of a lifetime but its still a less expensive option for upgrading space that A LOT of ppl will buy. Those are the products that drive R&D to lower the prices/ make larger options available.

Remember how long it took the price of the proprietary HDDs on the 360 to come down when internal HDD prices were dropping quick?

Even external HDDs are more expensive than internal HDDs with similar storage... you pay more for the portable casing and protection, thats just how it goes and thats also what will keep prices of the SX expansion cards high.

@Xiovanni LMAO xbox fanboys really need to quit with this "MS is transparent" crap. you guys are really misusing the term. Every company has their reveal times, just because MS revealed certain things first doesnt make them transparent. Both MS and Sony are holding back certain info on their consoles before launch but lets stop pretending now that MS not showing any gameplay footage of next gen graphics/ games on the SX isnt worrisome by now

Transparent would be the way Sony specified each game in their PS5 showcase that was running on PC and ones that were running on PS5... meanwhile MS shows a bunch of PC footage at their xbox events and just writes "captured in engine." they also take game trailers that were captured on PS5 a la 2k21 and advertise as xbox gameplay.

@Medic_Alert I just want to chime in. you obviously dont get how competition in economies work. MS and Seagate alone will never be able to compete with the prices of multiple companies...

Sure, if Western Digital drops the price of their 1TB SSD, MS can follow to compete but if Samsung drops their prices to compete with WD, MS wont suddenly drop their prices again to compete with Samsung. And once these lower tire hardware companies start creating SSDs and undercut the big boy's prices, Seagate will never go that low. They will most likely stay around the prices of other high end brands. But MS's proprietary SSDs are already overpriced considering it's older, slower tech for the price of newer tech.

At the end of day, PS gamers will have more options. Already out the gate theres a $149 option for PS gamers who need a little extra storage NOW!