Ended up buying a Slim with a discount, remove the drive and selling it for cheaper, and surprisingly it costed me less than buying the drive separately.
While the potential is big just keep in mind it’s a ton of money and Sony just doesn’t have the infinite cash as Microsoft or Tencent, meaning the integration of Kadokawa could lead to mass layoffs, shutdowns and closures not only within Kadokawa but Sony’s current business too in the short and medium term after the merger is complete.
TLDR: I’m worried about Sony’s stability after spending that amount of money, especially after their other huge investment in live-services didn’t pan out.
This is sad news, without him PlayStation wouldn’t be what it’s today, and I think it might be concerning the fact that he isn’t retiring or exiting the industry, but rather leaving Sony specifically, I wonder if he’s not ok with all their recent decisions.
Lmao no, nothing is happening, at most we’ll get some Sony announcements at The Game Awards, it’s been 8 years since they last done an event in December.
@nomither6 Just look back at the live services from 7 years ago, most don’t exist anymore, the ones that do had to come up with a “sequel” while having the same game due to player dropout, and I think Fortnite is the only one who managed to stay relevant all these years, I still play it from time to time and I always have fun.
Honestly it does look great now plus a flawless 60 FPS, crazy it took 3 YEARS for the game to look as good as the 90’s originals, I might give them a go since I bought them at launch but never played them due to being soooo disappointed back in the day.
Player pushback is good but mounting hate campaigns and review bombing great games is a bit much, just don’t buy it, and tbh all of this could and should have been avoided very easily by Sony, now I don’t know if porting games is still worth the effort as everything now will be ridiculously scrutinized or outright rejected by the PC audience.
And tbf I do think the account requirement for single player games specifically is BS, you can play games off discs in PS5 without ever having to log in, why in PC should it be any different? To rack up active PS players stats is the only explanation I find ‘reasonable’, but wasn’t worth burning bridges with that audience.
@REALAIS It’s a comparison you can make if you’ve played both games, for me it’s indeed better than Stellar Blade but my GOTY remains FFVII Rebirth, even tho all 3 games as vastly different from each other.
@Yozora146_ I’m not sure moving to UE5 would be a good idea, we’ve seen several teams struggle to move UE4 games to UE5 with lots of performance issues, plus the team is already accustomed to working with UE4 since around 2015, switching engines would result in a far longer development time only for negligible visual improvements.
@get2sammyb I know but people seem to want the option for the disc drive even if most won’t use it, that’s why still most sold consoles are with the disc drive included even if the digital edition is cheaper, and again, the Pro is geared towards enthusiasts which I bet are a good part of that 25% that still buy physical media.
My point is that the reason it’s not included is to intentionally squeeze another $80 from enthusiasts who went all the way to spend $700 in a console, as they knew this is precisely the audience that still values physical media; if it was the other way around we would’ve seen the Slim launching an only digital model with the disc drive sold separately but conveniently the only-digital model is the most expensive one.
@get2sammyb I still think offering a “Pro” console without a disc drive is an insult as the know only enthusiasts will buy that console, so they know most people buying the Pro would also buy the disc drive and they couldn’t even bother to have it in stock…
@get2sammyb Yup, that's what I think too, and the only way to revert this loss of sales is to stop prioritizing games on subscription services, we'll never hear MS say this but with the fact they only have day one games on Ultimate and the recent significant price increase is pretty obvious something ain't working.
46% down compared to MW2 being the last big launch should be concerning for Microsoft if Game Pass subs have not grown substantially, which I don’t really see happening.
We’ll see in the upcoming months if MS sticks to Game Pass or they begin to phase it out.
@get2sammyb Sure, but not having those generational leaps while having the most expensive console hardware in history just don’t go well together, it’s all just diminishing returns now, you used to get a $300 console and get a generational leap with it, even PS4 Pro at $399 was noticeable as we went from 1080p to 2K/4K.
But now the improvements are negligible, my takeaway from Cerny’s presentation was that most games wouldn’t make you choose between performance and quality mode but no, most games still make you choose and you literally have to zoom in to notice any difference.
@dskatter Not necessarily, no one said Nixxes should be a remaster-only studio, they could be a support studio that evolves into making their own game just like Bend, and whatever time and money spent on this could’ve been spent on the next installment of the trilogy, instead of making prettier an already made and readily available game, and even if they were a remaster-only studio I’d argue those same resources could’ve been used to remaster a game that actually needs it, like half the library of PS3.
Sony could literally announce an Astro Bot remaster tomorrow and some could still try to justify it somehow…
At first I wondered why a Fortnite bundle, but it’s the first time since 2015 that there isn’t a PlayStation bundle with Call of Duty, I guess that’s why.
@Jay767 It’s already confirmed that the game costed at least 200 million, if you add the acquisition and marketing (going all the way to pay for a TV episode based on the IP) the 400 million mark is likely to be true.
Hulst has to go, we were too focused on Jim Ryan but maybe it was Hermen pushing for the live services all along, I’m baffled how no one at Firewalk or SIE could see Concord’s issues during more than 2 years of development directly under Sony.
I’m really baffled at how Hermen Hulst is now CEO as he pushed for this game so much, convinced Sony to buy the studio and for years he never noticed how it could go wrong?
Even in his statement he says some aspects of Concord were ‘exceptional’ but honestly absolutely nothing about it was “exceptional”, some well done but absolutely nothing stuck out, there’s MUCH to learn from this flop…
The writing was on the wall but daaaamn, that’s honestly very sad for the studio that spent 8 years working on this, and it might be the biggest flop in Sony’s history.
@Khwarezm89 I feel like I know exactly what I’m going to play which would be more AC Valhalla with some tweaks and a different skin, that’s exactly what AC Mirage was, and Valhalla from Odyssey, and Odyssey from Origins…
@get2sammyb I think his point was that there’s no point in paying to keep a third-party game off Xbox and instead that same money should be invested in their first-party output or not trying to milk out customers to offset their low profit margins because of losses from a failed live-service push.
I do agree that Sony most of the time has good eye and the fact they’re willing to pay for exclusivity means that the game is promising, but it won’t be better or worse if being kept as a Sony exclusive.
I’m not disappointed in the lack of DLC but the main story and the game itself feels really cut short, and we know from the leak there’s indeed lots of cut content, when I replayed the game in NG+ focusing only on the story I noticed how badly it’s paced and some bits feel like they just stitched it together, that just didn’t happen on the first game nor even in Miles Morales which I’ve replayed both for 3+ times, I didn’t noticed it that much in my first playthrough since I was doing side content at the same time than advancing the main story.
It gives me the feeling that Insomniac are being rushed around, they got SM Remastered, Miles Morales, R&C Rift Apart, SM2, Venom and Wolverine all launched in around 6 years while many other studios haven’t been able to deliver ONE game for the PS5, but it’s clear they needed more time for SM2 and I hope they give them enough time for Venom and Wolverine, as they plan to release them a year between each other.
@DennisReynolds Yeah but in the same leak those expansions were not in the roadmap so maybe they were already cancelled for the Venom game, who knows but I also can’t shake the feeling that SM2 ended up being disappointing, I recently replayed it in NG+ and tbh I struggled to finish it, without the hype I realized many flaws with the game but specially the pacing is much worse than the first one which I’ve played like 4-5 times.
@get2sammyb I’m convinced that Venom started as an expansion for SM2 and since Miles Morales sold so well they’re instead selling Venom as a standalone experience, for more money of course.
Why sell a $20-30 DLC when you can sell a $50-60 “standalone expansion”? It already worked with Miles Morales (which was in every way a DLC for the first game), and we already know a Venom expansion is being sold as a full game next year (Insomniac’s leak).
It seemed wrong since they wanted to start from the Norse saga when the Greek one is arguably more important for Kratos character, without telling the full tale his character wouldn’t have made sense, less so his relationship with Atreus which is what the 2018 game is all about.
@themightyant It actually is a problem since budgets have gone upwards 300+ million and profit margins for Sony are very low even if they manage to sell tenths of millions, imo we need more Astro Bot type of games as it’s a fun game that doesn’t really need to sell millions of copies to have some return on investment.
Absolutely if we look at big publishers and platform holders, just taking a look at Sony specifically it’s very noticeable how currently they focus on big blockbusters of mostly existing franchises, just look how many sequels, remakes and remasters we’ve seen this generation opposed to the PS3 generation when Sony was firing on all cylinders into every game genre with new and existing IP and that’s just one example, Ubisoft, EA, Activision and basically every big publisher have gone way worse.
@LowDefAl Competition doesn’t necessarily mean having to also come up with a Pro model and price it cheaper, if MS was more competent this generation and managed to shorten the gap between the Xbox Series and PS5 I would bet that the PS5 Pro wouldn’t have crossed that $699 line, but since Sony is outselling them 3:1 or even 5:1 in some regions they can absolutely price it however they want.
Lets say that in a somehow scenario in 2024 both consoles are neck-to-neck as in the PS360 generation, do you really think any of these companies would introduce a $699 console with no disc drive? What would the reaction to this be back on 2009 if Sony came up with a PS3 Pro?
And again, my criticism isn’t against Sony, but towards the fanboys that keep wishing Xbox is dead without even realizing how MS’ incompetence is already costing us (literally more money), and yet even the author of this post seems to fuel this wish with a rumor that at least right now has been debunked.
Yes, the rumor came up several weeks ago but Microsoft themselves have said it isn’t true and they’re not leaving any region at least right now, yet you chose to post this when it was already debunked.
These posts only fuel console wars between the fanboys, just read at the comments, and may I remind you that MS getting out of the console market in whatever way just isn’t good for any PS users, a $699 console with no disc drive that has no direct competition should be indicative enough that we NEED more competition in the console space, and yet there’s people wishing that Xbox cease to exist, if y’all get your wish we’ll get even more expensive consoles, games, services, and more, but for some it doesn’t matter as long as Sony is on top…
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Re: PS5 Disc Drive Stock Still a Source of Intense Irritation for Many
Ended up buying a Slim with a discount, remove the drive and selling it for cheaper, and surprisingly it costed me less than buying the drive separately.
Re: Kadokawa Wants Sony's Full Commitment with Buyout of Entire Company
While the potential is big just keep in mind it’s a ton of money and Sony just doesn’t have the infinite cash as Microsoft or Tencent, meaning the integration of Kadokawa could lead to mass layoffs, shutdowns and closures not only within Kadokawa but Sony’s current business too in the short and medium term after the merger is complete.
TLDR: I’m worried about Sony’s stability after spending that amount of money, especially after their other huge investment in live-services didn’t pan out.
Re: PlayStation Exec Shuhei Yoshida Will Leave the Company in January
This is sad news, without him PlayStation wouldn’t be what it’s today, and I think it might be concerning the fact that he isn’t retiring or exiting the industry, but rather leaving Sony specifically, I wonder if he’s not ok with all their recent decisions.
Re: Rumour: PlayStation Event Could Be Incoming, Sony's Very Busy 'Behind the Scenes'
Lmao no, nothing is happening, at most we’ll get some Sony announcements at The Game Awards, it’s been 8 years since they last done an event in December.
Re: No Xbox Games Are Off the Table for Release on PS5, Says Phil Spencer
Yup, 100% confirmed Xbox is dead and EVERYTHING eventually coming to PS5.
Re: Fortnite OG Sticks Around As Permanent Mode from 6th December
@nomither6 Just look back at the live services from 7 years ago, most don’t exist anymore, the ones that do had to come up with a “sequel” while having the same game due to player dropout, and I think Fortnite is the only one who managed to stay relevant all these years, I still play it from time to time and I always have fun.
Re: GTA Trilogy May Finally Be Worth Playing on PS5, PS4
Honestly it does look great now plus a flawless 60 FPS, crazy it took 3 YEARS for the game to look as good as the 90’s originals, I might give them a go since I bought them at launch but never played them due to being soooo disappointed back in the day.
Re: Indiana Jones Looks Like an Adventure Worth Waiting for on PS5
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Re: Sony Boss Says It's 'Learned a Lot' from PC Player Pushback
Player pushback is good but mounting hate campaigns and review bombing great games is a bit much, just don’t buy it, and tbh all of this could and should have been avoided very easily by Sony, now I don’t know if porting games is still worth the effort as everything now will be ridiculously scrutinized or outright rejected by the PC audience.
And tbf I do think the account requirement for single player games specifically is BS, you can play games off discs in PS5 without ever having to log in, why in PC should it be any different? To rack up active PS players stats is the only explanation I find ‘reasonable’, but wasn’t worth burning bridges with that audience.
Re: Sony Promises It'll Launch Major PS5 Single Player Games Every Year Moving Forwards
I was excited until I read “expect a mix of single-player and live service games in the medium term” smh…
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@REALAIS It’s a comparison you can make if you’ve played both games, for me it’s indeed better than Stellar Blade but my GOTY remains FFVII Rebirth, even tho all 3 games as vastly different from each other.
Re: Hypnotic PS5 Pro Boot Screen, Background Worth the Upgrade
No offense guys but you’re getting ridiculous with the Pro, not even with the OG PS5 you wanted to generate such a fuss when this ain’t it.
Re: Hands On: Serious Pop-In the Only Problem with Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Massive PS5 Pro Boost
@Yozora146_ I’m not sure moving to UE5 would be a good idea, we’ve seen several teams struggle to move UE4 games to UE5 with lots of performance issues, plus the team is already accustomed to working with UE4 since around 2015, switching engines would result in a far longer development time only for negligible visual improvements.
Re: PS5 Pro Actually Gives You Almost All Its 2TB of Storage to use
That’s a huge jump from the 667 GB available in OG PS5 ngl…
Re: Hogwarts Legacy a Huge Priority for PS5, Will Connect to HBO TV Show
The title doesn’t make sense, huge priority for PS5 or huge hit for PS5 and sequel high priority for WB?
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
@get2sammyb I know but people seem to want the option for the disc drive even if most won’t use it, that’s why still most sold consoles are with the disc drive included even if the digital edition is cheaper, and again, the Pro is geared towards enthusiasts which I bet are a good part of that 25% that still buy physical media.
My point is that the reason it’s not included is to intentionally squeeze another $80 from enthusiasts who went all the way to spend $700 in a console, as they knew this is precisely the audience that still values physical media; if it was the other way around we would’ve seen the Slim launching an only digital model with the disc drive sold separately but conveniently the only-digital model is the most expensive one.
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
@get2sammyb I still think offering a “Pro” console without a disc drive is an insult as the know only enthusiasts will buy that console, so they know most people buying the Pro would also buy the disc drive and they couldn’t even bother to have it in stock…
Re: PS5 Pro Makes Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Look Like a Whole New Game
It does look sharper, i don’t agree about the “whole new game” marketing terms…
Re: PS5 Dominates UK Black Ops 6 Sales, As Game Pass Causes Xbox Share to Collapse
@get2sammyb Yup, that's what I think too, and the only way to revert this loss of sales is to stop prioritizing games on subscription services, we'll never hear MS say this but with the fact they only have day one games on Ultimate and the recent significant price increase is pretty obvious something ain't working.
Re: PS5 Dominates UK Black Ops 6 Sales, As Game Pass Causes Xbox Share to Collapse
46% down compared to MW2 being the last big launch should be concerning for Microsoft if Game Pass subs have not grown substantially, which I don’t really see happening.
We’ll see in the upcoming months if MS sticks to Game Pass or they begin to phase it out.
Re: PS5 Pro vs PS5: Full Tech Specs Comparison
@get2sammyb Sure, but not having those generational leaps while having the most expensive console hardware in history just don’t go well together, it’s all just diminishing returns now, you used to get a $300 console and get a generational leap with it, even PS4 Pro at $399 was noticeable as we went from 1080p to 2K/4K.
But now the improvements are negligible, my takeaway from Cerny’s presentation was that most games wouldn’t make you choose between performance and quality mode but no, most games still make you choose and you literally have to zoom in to notice any difference.
Re: More People Are Playing the Original Horizon Zero Dawn Than Its Remaster on PC
@dskatter Not necessarily, no one said Nixxes should be a remaster-only studio, they could be a support studio that evolves into making their own game just like Bend, and whatever time and money spent on this could’ve been spent on the next installment of the trilogy, instead of making prettier an already made and readily available game, and even if they were a remaster-only studio I’d argue those same resources could’ve been used to remaster a game that actually needs it, like half the library of PS3.
Sony could literally announce an Astro Bot remaster tomorrow and some could still try to justify it somehow…
Re: More People Are Playing the Original Horizon Zero Dawn Than Its Remaster on PC
Honestly, good. The only way to stop these unnecessary remasters that only take away time and money from new games is to not buy them.
Re: PS5 Goes for the Kill with Fortnite Console Bundle This Christmas
At first I wondered why a Fortnite bundle, but it’s the first time since 2015 that there isn’t a PlayStation bundle with Call of Duty, I guess that’s why.
Re: PS5 Pro Could Seriously Improve the Quality of Your PS4 Games
Lmao “seriously improve” with not a single example of it…
Re: Sony Says the Best Time to Get a PS5 Is Now
This highlights perfectly how disappointing this generation has been…
Re: PlayStation's Dual CEO Setup Has 'Opportunities and Risks'
@Jay767 It’s already confirmed that the game costed at least 200 million, if you add the acquisition and marketing (going all the way to pay for a TV episode based on the IP) the 400 million mark is likely to be true.
Re: PlayStation's Dual CEO Setup Has 'Opportunities and Risks'
Hulst has to go, we were too focused on Jim Ryan but maybe it was Hermen pushing for the live services all along, I’m baffled how no one at Firewalk or SIE could see Concord’s issues during more than 2 years of development directly under Sony.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Guide: All Quests, Collectibles, and Tips and Tricks
Quick question, if I got the platinum back on PS4 I’ll get it in the remaster by loading my save file?
Re: Concord Cost Sony Over $200 Million, And Didn't Make a Single Cent
I’m really baffled at how Hermen Hulst is now CEO as he pushed for this game so much, convinced Sony to buy the studio and for years he never noticed how it could go wrong?
Even in his statement he says some aspects of Concord were ‘exceptional’ but honestly absolutely nothing about it was “exceptional”, some well done but absolutely nothing stuck out, there’s MUCH to learn from this flop…
Re: PS5, PC Flop Concord Never Returning, Studio Closed Down
The writing was on the wall but daaaamn, that’s honestly very sad for the studio that spent 8 years working on this, and it might be the biggest flop in Sony’s history.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Slips PS5 Screen Tearing Bug into Latest Patch
@Medic_alert I already saw it at $30 on disc, it’s gonna be $10 in a month lmao
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Slips PS5 Screen Tearing Bug into Latest Patch
Only Ubisoft breaks their games 2 months after launch instead of patching them…
Re: PS5, PS4 Fans Are Worried Cash Rewards Have Been Removed from PS Stars
I have a feeling this is entirely intentional and not ever coming back, they’ve been trying to nerf the cashback since the program was introduced lmao
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Collector's Edition Cheaper After Its Season Pass Cancellation
@Khwarezm89 I feel like I know exactly what I’m going to play which would be more AC Valhalla with some tweaks and a different skin, that’s exactly what AC Mirage was, and Valhalla from Odyssey, and Odyssey from Origins…
Re: Ubisoft Disbands Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Team After Poor Sales, Claims Report
Ubisoft is done for, the one legitimately great game they come out within a decade and not even a year later they disband the team. Just pathetic.
Re: PlayStation, Bungie Still Going Ahead with Internal Live Service Team
This f***ing live service push will end up wasting the entire generation, so much time and money poured down the drain…
Re: Black Ops 6 Another Call of Duty with No PS5 Platinum Trophy
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Re: Sony Wanted PS5 Exclusivity for Crimson Desert, But Dev Reportedly Declined
@get2sammyb I think his point was that there’s no point in paying to keep a third-party game off Xbox and instead that same money should be invested in their first-party output or not trying to milk out customers to offset their low profit margins because of losses from a failed live-service push.
I do agree that Sony most of the time has good eye and the fact they’re willing to pay for exclusivity means that the game is promising, but it won’t be better or worse if being kept as a Sony exclusive.
Re: Horizon's Sylens Will Be Recast Following the Passing of Lance Reddick
That’s sad, I kinda hoped they’d homage his character but given how Forbidden West ends it’s very difficult to set Sylens aside.
Re: Some Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PS5 Fans Are Furious It's Not Getting DLC
I’m not disappointed in the lack of DLC but the main story and the game itself feels really cut short, and we know from the leak there’s indeed lots of cut content, when I replayed the game in NG+ focusing only on the story I noticed how badly it’s paced and some bits feel like they just stitched it together, that just didn’t happen on the first game nor even in Miles Morales which I’ve replayed both for 3+ times, I didn’t noticed it that much in my first playthrough since I was doing side content at the same time than advancing the main story.
It gives me the feeling that Insomniac are being rushed around, they got SM Remastered, Miles Morales, R&C Rift Apart, SM2, Venom and Wolverine all launched in around 6 years while many other studios haven’t been able to deliver ONE game for the PS5, but it’s clear they needed more time for SM2 and I hope they give them enough time for Venom and Wolverine, as they plan to release them a year between each other.
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
@DennisReynolds Yeah but in the same leak those expansions were not in the roadmap so maybe they were already cancelled for the Venom game, who knows but I also can’t shake the feeling that SM2 ended up being disappointing, I recently replayed it in NG+ and tbh I struggled to finish it, without the hype I realized many flaws with the game but specially the pacing is much worse than the first one which I’ve played like 4-5 times.
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
@get2sammyb I’m convinced that Venom started as an expansion for SM2 and since Miles Morales sold so well they’re instead selling Venom as a standalone experience, for more money of course.
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
Why sell a $20-30 DLC when you can sell a $50-60 “standalone expansion”? It already worked with Miles Morales (which was in every way a DLC for the first game), and we already know a Venom expansion is being sold as a full game next year (Insomniac’s leak).
Re: Boy! Sony and Amazon to Start from Scratch on God of War TV Show
It seemed wrong since they wanted to start from the Norse saga when the Greek one is arguably more important for Kratos character, without telling the full tale his character wouldn’t have made sense, less so his relationship with Atreus which is what the 2018 game is all about.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Exec Shawn Layden Says There's Been a 'Collapse' in Gaming Creativity
@themightyant It actually is a problem since budgets have gone upwards 300+ million and profit margins for Sony are very low even if they manage to sell tenths of millions, imo we need more Astro Bot type of games as it’s a fun game that doesn’t really need to sell millions of copies to have some return on investment.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Exec Shawn Layden Says There's Been a 'Collapse' in Gaming Creativity
Absolutely if we look at big publishers and platform holders, just taking a look at Sony specifically it’s very noticeable how currently they focus on big blockbusters of mostly existing franchises, just look how many sequels, remakes and remasters we’ve seen this generation opposed to the PS3 generation when Sony was firing on all cylinders into every game genre with new and existing IP and that’s just one example, Ubisoft, EA, Activision and basically every big publisher have gone way worse.
Re: Expect Plenty of PS5, PS4 News At Xbox's Partner Preview This Week
@boogieman117 It’s confirmed it’ll only have third-party titles.
Btw, this fanboy talk about killing Xbox has become exhausting, just enjoy the good games they show.
Re: PS5 May Soon Be Unchallenged by Xbox in Some Regions
@LowDefAl Competition doesn’t necessarily mean having to also come up with a Pro model and price it cheaper, if MS was more competent this generation and managed to shorten the gap between the Xbox Series and PS5 I would bet that the PS5 Pro wouldn’t have crossed that $699 line, but since Sony is outselling them 3:1 or even 5:1 in some regions they can absolutely price it however they want.
Lets say that in a somehow scenario in 2024 both consoles are neck-to-neck as in the PS360 generation, do you really think any of these companies would introduce a $699 console with no disc drive? What would the reaction to this be back on 2009 if Sony came up with a PS3 Pro?
And again, my criticism isn’t against Sony, but towards the fanboys that keep wishing Xbox is dead without even realizing how MS’ incompetence is already costing us (literally more money), and yet even the author of this post seems to fuel this wish with a rumor that at least right now has been debunked.
Re: PS5 May Soon Be Unchallenged by Xbox in Some Regions
With all due respect, wtf is this article?
Yes, the rumor came up several weeks ago but Microsoft themselves have said it isn’t true and they’re not leaving any region at least right now, yet you chose to post this when it was already debunked.
These posts only fuel console wars between the fanboys, just read at the comments, and may I remind you that MS getting out of the console market in whatever way just isn’t good for any PS users, a $699 console with no disc drive that has no direct competition should be indicative enough that we NEED more competition in the console space, and yet there’s people wishing that Xbox cease to exist, if y’all get your wish we’ll get even more expensive consoles, games, services, and more, but for some it doesn’t matter as long as Sony is on top…