Its ironic that the latest claims SIE is making to regulatory bodies is liturally a carbon copy of exactly what they have been doing last 2 years. 1. Increase game price, ding. 2. Increase hardware price, ding 3. Make 3rd party titles exclusive or timed, ding 4. Make it so nobody has a choice where they play certain games, ding. 5. Lock off parts of multi platform games via exclusive dlc, ding.
While also rebranding ps now to be more expensive, re-releasing titles via streaming that were a part of now....
Arent they crying wolf at this point? Shooter wise they got socom, killzone, resistance that they have done absolutely nothing with but accused microsoft of cornering the shooter market and locking sony out... oh please.
@tselliot i dont know some remakes or remasters are pretty good, some games need a major haul to bring them too younger audiences. I bet some people dont know what witcher 3 is but a next/current gen upgrade is something im interested in. But then the other side is doing the last of us part 1 which i feel really added nothing but still priced as a full fledged release. So some are worth it and then there are some that dont. Honestly 2023 is going to be quite amazing, can't wait.
@UltimateOtaku91 not hate more like why. If you want your game to sell well whatever the platform you shouldnt be doing exclusive stuff for one platform and trying to sell for the same price on another console.
It makes zero sense to mess up your probable sales on other platforms for fluff, restoration items.
Locking away content for example Hogwarts Legacy quest should never be allowed. Sony want game parity?? Cool, then dont lock content behind your console.
Honestly square enix bring this too xbox for crying out loud. We had ff11 on xbox and since then they have ignored us (except for 12 remastered and 15).
Psvr2 too pricey, too niche. Im not saying psvr2 wont be a hit but id rather see psvr1 upgradable and not just another piece of gear to choke on. Ive got quest and psvr 1 while they are experiences to be had they are in most cases short lived, games are short and production quality isnt even on par to full AAA titles. When i first had psvr1 on ps4 i honestly loved the feeling of immersion but you cant game too long, games are short.
I think the issue is you know they are going to charge you $70 for a vr game that doesnt have even 30% of a proper release on console.
@ROTTIEMAN16 i doubt thats going too happen. You are yet to see the rachet and clank rift apart on ps plus i doubt you will see it for a few months still and never seen sony put "new" games into ps plus. Maybe a year or two later.
@KaijuKaiser you sound jelly mai gai.
Big boi pants time:
Investment opportunities for big companies happen all the time aquiring companies happen all the time. If sony had the capital and microsoft didn't are you sure sony wouldnt be making sound high quality investments?
I think you forget sony gates games for timed exclusivity all the time and sony also makes investments (that they can afford) all the time.
Its all about replayability and witcher 3 had that in droves. A new spit shine might revitalise interest in the title. The fact its a patch for free for current gen is kind of awesome dont you think?? Most companies would be like "here a upgrade to current gen for $10 more" (cough sony cough).
For the people wanting a remake.. you are the problem with gaming, whats the point in creating brand new experiences when your willing to spend another $70 on a visual upgrade that may even play worse.
People vote with your wallet dont buy remakes unless they are games from 15 years ago.
What a ps biased list. Why is gt7 on there but no plague tale requiem. Dont give me "maybe it missed the slot to be nominated" return to monkey island only just released. Seems paid for biased sony.
So free service that you have to spend money to get anywhere. 10 points per dollar doesnt say how many points per tier and the tiers are temporary. Sounds like a con to me.
Lol all this "microsoft only know how to throw money at it" like its a bad thing.
Microsoft: hey i got some money. Sega: oh sweet throw us some... Microsoft: umm i dunno we trusted platinum games and got mugged. Sega: oh come on we will give you better access too our library, you always said you wanted better asian relations... well give us some and we will give agreat deal that will favor xbox. Microsoft: oh go on then.
@Would_you_kindly thats just your opinion. Clearly the majority of official reviewers from official magazines beg to differ. Its also standing at a 8.0 on user ratings on metacritic. I am going t9 say that your are the weakest link.
@Titntin metacritic gives halo infinite a 87. Horizon forbidden west is at 88. If its such a trash and badly recieved game why is it scored that high. Does it also mean Horizon forbidden west was also trash, not worth playing. Simple answer no and you trashing a game from xbox and praising a game from playstation its liturally all you ponies do. Keep hating.
Google can afford it. I feel sorry for the people who invested time and money on stadia. I feel aorry for developers who were brought in to develop games for the platform as they will no longer be getting royalties for digital purchases from stadia store. Im also sure some games were exclusive to stadia too. What a ***** show..
@uptownsoul have you actually played halo infinite?? You call it trash but its single player was a fun action filled shooter with an actual full budget story. Its multiplayer is the only thing thats dragging it down. Broken promises and slow releases of modes etc. All games drop in price eventually it has nothing yo do with "quality" babylons fall anyone?? Godfall?? Are these the quality titles you boys seem to harp on about seeing as they released at 60 to 70$.
@theGoodChap those 17 games are not worth it. Most were enticed by sly cooper but the rest were meh. Is that your quality over quantity argument. Lol.
90% of September's psn plus was old pre gen titles. Is this your argument of quality over quantity lol.
Yes my numbers are not exact as there are far too many variables too consider. 1. Are they subbing yearly or monthly? As the my original comment suggested this was based on just monthly. My point still stands. 2. Did they make any micro-transactions through psn and of what would be considered money too psn plus?? 3. What overheads are they paying?
@Jeaz nobody is saying its unheard of just the fact that this kind of stunt will reflect negatively on a already damaged by past stunts sony. Nobody should have to pay or be a member of a club after you have purchased a product from them to only be told your lowest priority scum hope you like queues.
Oh boy.... seriously sony you need to stop giving people a reason to hate you. Support should be first come first serve basis no matter on how far someone is invested into your ecosystem. For the payers is definitely becoming the motto. Are they trying to piss people off.
@Titntin actually the equivalent to psn premium is gamepass ultimate you got 4 games for the month ultimate gets 12.....
4 old games compared too 12 new games (give or take 4 of them). 12 games you can most likely play on pc and xbox and mobile and tablet compared to 4 games ... that are just old tat. Are you missing something.. like you know a brain.
I swear sony are just copying points off of xbox game points. Earn points playing games points build up and you can claim credit, get money off next subscription or put it towards vouchers for in store credit. Other then thay sounds like nfts...
@jrt87 the 300k rats thing isnt playstation specific. Just plus square trying to make it out that the ps5 can only do it. When that developer was at xbox event they said the same thing about how the new hardware has given them more room to breath.
@theGoodChap i think the problem is they are all old games that you could liturally outright buy 3 of them titles for the same price as 1 month of plus. As of june 2022 there was around 45 million subscribers which brings income to 500 million a month ($9.99 x45 million) If this month is $100 worth of games it honestly feels like they could of given you more. It also brings in roughly 6 billion yearly (thats just base psn plus and doesnt include other micro-transactions, dlc). They are making bank while subbers are getting spanked.
@SerJosh97 "I'll actually be buying and supporting plague tale on ps, as I actually support devs and don't use the industry killer that is gamepass."
How do you think games end up on gamepass and ps plus exactly?? Sony and microsoft both use the same sort of system too procuring games for there services its called "take my cheque". And how is "gamepass" an industry killer? Many developers have been pretty outspoken about how gamepass has brought attention to there games too a larger community where some would of completely overlooked some. Industry killer? Or are you just full of s$%#.
@uptownsoul what drop in quality?? Everything on gamepass depending on what you are playing on you get the highest quality version that device gives. Its called smart delivery (yes this applies too gamepass too). Honestly people who doubt the power, accessibility and value that gamepass offers are blind. Lets be honest now which has had the better lineup for the last 2 months for gamepass and ps plus?? This month im glad im no longer subbed too psn plus its a joke at this point and octobers offerings for psn plus are laughable at best.
Why watch dogs 2 and not legion? Spiritfarer was been and gone on gamepass.. the rest seem like hand me downs from 2 generations ago. That thing that people say "sony playstation do quality over quantity when it comes to content on plus" really didnt age well at all.
@BritneyfR_ee not all jobs are enjoyable experiences. You think being pressured into overtime and killing yourself denying me time is a good thing? Dillusional much.
@WadeIsInsane only affects developers payloads who don't want to use that revenue. They get a choice to either get a fat cheque and still make that side hussle of full game purchases or dont use that revenue and not getting a piece of that pie. Lets be honest this game is a clone, carbon copy of what a dead space game would look and play like if it was updated. How well did the original dead space do? I honestly think they are mistaken if they actually think not putting this on ps plus or gamepass will give them a bigger cut.
At least they can't blame microsoft for the crunch. They already said it isnt gonna be a day 1 gamepass game. The fact that there crunching for its release means its most likely gonna have a buggy glitch filled launch. Please no more cyberpunks.
@Sqush-Pare well you're obviously living in cloud cuckoos land. Sony care about lining there pockets. Anything that affects that in any way is either removed, deleted, changed. Sony need to get there head out of the sand and realise this is only going to push customers away, to the competition. There are people who have still got preorders of ps5s in the pipeline and im sure fhey are not going to want to pay another 30 to 50 on top of what they initially paid. I can really see there back pedalling. But really if your supportive on sonys decisions i feel sorry for you.
@Sqush-Pare sorry but increasing prices of a 2 year old console after its release means that people will think twice about getting a ps5. Sales will stagger even more (slow).
Sony ***** the bed and apparently simpletons will defend moves like this one...... you.
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Re: Report: FTC Could File an Antitrust Lawsuit to Block Xbox's Activision Buyout
@naruball what are you talking about.
Re: Report: FTC Could File an Antitrust Lawsuit to Block Xbox's Activision Buyout
Its ironic that the latest claims SIE is making to regulatory bodies is liturally a carbon copy of exactly what they have been doing last 2 years.
1. Increase game price, ding.
2. Increase hardware price, ding
3. Make 3rd party titles exclusive or timed, ding
4. Make it so nobody has a choice where they play certain games, ding.
5. Lock off parts of multi platform games via exclusive dlc, ding.
While also rebranding ps now to be more expensive, re-releasing titles via streaming that were a part of now....
Arent they crying wolf at this point? Shooter wise they got socom, killzone, resistance that they have done absolutely nothing with but accused microsoft of cornering the shooter market and locking sony out... oh please.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Has 'Dozens' of Improvements, Integrated Mods, and New Netflix Show Content
@tselliot i dont know some remakes or remasters are pretty good, some games need a major haul to bring them too younger audiences. I bet some people dont know what witcher 3 is but a next/current gen upgrade is something im interested in. But then the other side is doing the last of us part 1 which i feel really added nothing but still priced as a full fledged release. So some are worth it and then there are some that dont. Honestly 2023 is going to be quite amazing, can't wait.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Has 'Dozens' of Improvements, Integrated Mods, and New Netflix Show Content
@KidBoruto same own it on ps4 and xbox but never really played too finish. Was more busy playing the online part of it.
Re: The Callisto Protocol Will Have Exclusive PlayStation Content at Launch
@UltimateOtaku91 not hate more like why. If you want your game to sell well whatever the platform you shouldnt be doing exclusive stuff for one platform and trying to sell for the same price on another console.
It makes zero sense to mess up your probable sales on other platforms for fluff, restoration items.
Locking away content for example Hogwarts Legacy quest should never be allowed. Sony want game parity?? Cool, then dont lock content behind your console.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Has 'Dozens' of Improvements, Integrated Mods, and New Netflix Show Content
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Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Has 'Dozens' of Improvements, Integrated Mods, and New Netflix Show Content
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Re: God of War, Sony Exclusives Dominate The Game Awards Nominees
@uptownsoul ff7 remake cant be goty for 2022 as it was launched in 2020.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Has 'Dozens' of Improvements, Integrated Mods, and New Netflix Show Content
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Re: Gods Revel, Lands Tremble as Final Fantasy 14's Mammoth Patch 6.3 Is Revealed
Honestly square enix bring this too xbox for crying out loud. We had ff11 on xbox and since then they have ignored us (except for 12 remastered and 15).
Re: PSVR2 Game Pricing Revealed as Pre-Orders Go Live
Psvr2 too pricey, too niche. Im not saying psvr2 wont be a hit but id rather see psvr1 upgradable and not just another piece of gear to choke on. Ive got quest and psvr 1 while they are experiences to be had they are in most cases short lived, games are short and production quality isnt even on par to full AAA titles. When i first had psvr1 on ps4 i honestly loved the feeling of immersion but you cant game too long, games are short.
I think the issue is you know they are going to charge you $70 for a vr game that doesnt have even 30% of a proper release on console.
Re: PSVR2 Game Pricing Revealed as Pre-Orders Go Live
@ROTTIEMAN16 i doubt thats going too happen. You are yet to see the rachet and clank rift apart on ps plus i doubt you will see it for a few months still and never seen sony put "new" games into ps plus. Maybe a year or two later.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Has 'Dozens' of Improvements, Integrated Mods, and New Netflix Show Content
@KidBoruto didnt you know sarcasm.
Re: Sony Played a Role in Bringing The Callisto Protocol to Life
@KaijuKaiser you sound jelly mai gai.
Big boi pants time:
Investment opportunities for big companies happen all the time aquiring companies happen all the time. If sony had the capital and microsoft didn't are you sure sony wouldnt be making sound high quality investments?
I think you forget sony gates games for timed exclusivity all the time and sony also makes investments (that they can afford) all the time.
Its just business bub, dont make it personal.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give God of War Ragnarok?
0/10 didnt play this one didnt play 2018s god of war.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Has 'Dozens' of Improvements, Integrated Mods, and New Netflix Show Content
@danlk1ng i dont think you get sarcasm.
Re: The Witcher 3 PS5 Has 'Dozens' of Improvements, Integrated Mods, and New Netflix Show Content
Its all about replayability and witcher 3 had that in droves. A new spit shine might revitalise interest in the title. The fact its a patch for free for current gen is kind of awesome dont you think?? Most companies would be like "here a upgrade to current gen for $10 more" (cough sony cough).
For the people wanting a remake.. you are the problem with gaming, whats the point in creating brand new experiences when your willing to spend another $70 on a visual upgrade that may even play worse.
People vote with your wallet dont buy remakes unless they are games from 15 years ago.
Re: Three Sony Games Nominated for Ultimate Game of the Year Award at the Golden Joysticks
What a ps biased list. Why is gt7 on there but no plague tale requiem. Dont give me "maybe it missed the slot to be nominated" return to monkey island only just released. Seems paid for biased sony.
Re: Mini Review: Persona 5 Royal (PS5) - Still One of the Best JRPGs Ever Made, Despite PS4 Disrespect
Between persona 5 and plague tale requiem on gamepass i dont know if ill have time for anything.
Re: Reaction: PS Stars Is Overdue Yet Appreciated, But There's Lots of Room to Improve
So free service that you have to spend money to get anywhere. 10 points per dollar doesnt say how many points per tier and the tiers are temporary. Sounds like a con to me.
Re: You Can Now Transfer Your Cyberpunk 2077 Stadia Save to a Proper Platform
Article doesnt articulate which console just supported consoles. Im guessing all platforms that run the game. Xbox, ps.
Re: Persona Fans on PlayStation Get Sold Short Again as Xbox Deal Reveals Native Ports
@racinggamefanatic lol they will never stop the bleeding especially with there actions as of late.
Re: Persona Fans on PlayStation Get Sold Short Again as Xbox Deal Reveals Native Ports
Lol all this "microsoft only know how to throw money at it" like its a bad thing.
Microsoft: hey i got some money.
Sega: oh sweet throw us some...
Microsoft: umm i dunno we trusted platinum games and got mugged.
Sega: oh come on we will give you better access too our library, you always said you wanted better asian relations... well give us some and we will give agreat deal that will favor xbox.
Microsoft: oh go on then.
Its that easy.
Re: PS Plus Essential's PS5, PS4 Games Announced for October 2022
@Would_you_kindly thats just your opinion. Clearly the majority of official reviewers from official magazines beg to differ. Its also standing at a 8.0 on user ratings on metacritic. I am going t9 say that your are the weakest link.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@Titntin metacritic gives halo infinite a 87. Horizon forbidden west is at 88. If its such a trash and badly recieved game why is it scored that high. Does it also mean Horizon forbidden west was also trash, not worth playing. Simple answer no and you trashing a game from xbox and praising a game from playstation its liturally all you ponies do. Keep hating.
Re: Once Considered a PlayStation Competitor, Google Stadia Is Shutting Down
Google can afford it. I feel sorry for the people who invested time and money on stadia. I feel aorry for developers who were brought in to develop games for the platform as they will no longer be getting royalties for digital purchases from stadia store. Im also sure some games were exclusive to stadia too. What a ***** show..
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@uptownsoul have you actually played halo infinite?? You call it trash but its single player was a fun action filled shooter with an actual full budget story. Its multiplayer is the only thing thats dragging it down. Broken promises and slow releases of modes etc. All games drop in price eventually it has nothing yo do with "quality" babylons fall anyone?? Godfall?? Are these the quality titles you boys seem to harp on about seeing as they released at 60 to 70$.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@theGoodChap those 17 games are not worth it. Most were enticed by sly cooper but the rest were meh. Is that your quality over quantity argument. Lol.
90% of September's psn plus was old pre gen titles. Is this your argument of quality over quantity lol.
Yes my numbers are not exact as there are far too many variables too consider.
1. Are they subbing yearly or monthly? As the my original comment suggested this was based on just monthly. My point still stands.
2. Did they make any micro-transactions through psn and of what would be considered money too psn plus??
3. What overheads are they paying?
My points still stand regardless of the context.
Re: Sony Gates Customer Service Priority Behind New PS Stars Program
@Jeaz nobody is saying its unheard of just the fact that this kind of stunt will reflect negatively on a already damaged by past stunts sony. Nobody should have to pay or be a member of a club after you have purchased a product from them to only be told your lowest priority scum hope you like queues.
Re: Sony Gates Customer Service Priority Behind New PS Stars Program
@Bleachedsmiles but they will. They defended the $70 games, hardware price increase, psn plus tiers and removing psnow.
Re: Sony Gates Customer Service Priority Behind New PS Stars Program
Oh boy.... seriously sony you need to stop giving people a reason to hate you. Support should be first come first serve basis no matter on how far someone is invested into your ecosystem. For the payers is definitely becoming the motto. Are they trying to piss people off.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@uptownsoul when is it just gold vs psn plus?? Your definitely short in the spare change department aren't you.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@uptownsoul are you seriously using food analogies?? Nobody in there right mind uses that argument.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@Titntin actually the equivalent to psn premium is gamepass ultimate you got 4 games for the month ultimate gets 12.....
4 old games compared too 12 new games (give or take 4 of them). 12 games you can most likely play on pc and xbox and mobile and tablet compared to 4 games ... that are just old tat. Are you missing something.. like you know a brain.
Re: Kena: Bridge of Spirits' Massive Anniversary Update Available Now on PS5, PS4
Dear SOny,
Please stop gatekeeping games and holding off there release on other platforms.
Sincerely
A real gamer
Re: Sony Posts PlayStation Stars Scheme Overview, Release Dates
I swear sony are just copying points off of xbox game points. Earn points playing games points build up and you can claim credit, get money off next subscription or put it towards vouchers for in store credit. Other then thay sounds like nfts...
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Harnesses the Power of the PS5 to Bring Your Nightmares to Life
@Max_the_German it can.
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Harnesses the Power of the PS5 to Bring Your Nightmares to Life
@Nintendo4Sonic we dont have to as they are supported just from our subs. Microsoft has obviously given asobo a fat cheque to put it in gamepass. ✌
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Harnesses the Power of the PS5 to Bring Your Nightmares to Life
@jrt87 the 300k rats thing isnt playstation specific. Just plus square trying to make it out that the ps5 can only do it. When that developer was at xbox event they said the same thing about how the new hardware has given them more room to breath.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@theGoodChap i think the problem is they are all old games that you could liturally outright buy 3 of them titles for the same price as 1 month of plus. As of june 2022 there was around 45 million subscribers which brings income to 500 million a month ($9.99 x45 million) If this month is $100 worth of games it honestly feels like they could of given you more. It also brings in roughly 6 billion yearly (thats just base psn plus and doesnt include other micro-transactions, dlc). They are making bank while subbers are getting spanked.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
Another dead month meh glad i no longer subd.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@SerJosh97 "I'll actually be buying and supporting plague tale on ps, as I actually support devs and don't use the industry killer that is gamepass."
How do you think games end up on gamepass and ps plus exactly?? Sony and microsoft both use the same sort of system too procuring games for there services its called "take my cheque". And how is "gamepass" an industry killer? Many developers have been pretty outspoken about how gamepass has brought attention to there games too a larger community where some would of completely overlooked some. Industry killer? Or are you just full of s$%#.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for October 2022 Announced
@uptownsoul what drop in quality?? Everything on gamepass depending on what you are playing on you get the highest quality version that device gives. Its called smart delivery (yes this applies too gamepass too). Honestly people who doubt the power, accessibility and value that gamepass offers are blind. Lets be honest now which has had the better lineup for the last 2 months for gamepass and ps plus?? This month im glad im no longer subbed too psn plus its a joke at this point and octobers offerings for psn plus are laughable at best.
Re: 17 New PS5, PS4 Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Tomorrow
@naruball hey bet they raise the price of extra and ill revisit this comment later.
Re: 17 New PS5, PS4 Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Tomorrow
Why watch dogs 2 and not legion? Spiritfarer was been and gone on gamepass.. the rest seem like hand me downs from 2 generations ago. That thing that people say "sony playstation do quality over quantity when it comes to content on plus" really didnt age well at all.
Re: The Callisto Protocol's Boss Underfire for Appearing to Glorify 15 Hour Shifts
@BritneyfR_ee not all jobs are enjoyable experiences. You think being pressured into overtime and killing yourself denying me time is a good thing? Dillusional much.
Re: The Callisto Protocol's Boss Underfire for Appearing to Glorify 15 Hour Shifts
@WadeIsInsane only affects developers payloads who don't want to use that revenue. They get a choice to either get a fat cheque and still make that side hussle of full game purchases or dont use that revenue and not getting a piece of that pie. Lets be honest this game is a clone, carbon copy of what a dead space game would look and play like if it was updated. How well did the original dead space do? I honestly think they are mistaken if they actually think not putting this on ps plus or gamepass will give them a bigger cut.
Re: The Callisto Protocol's Boss Underfire for Appearing to Glorify 15 Hour Shifts
At least they can't blame microsoft for the crunch. They already said it isnt gonna be a day 1 gamepass game. The fact that there crunching for its release means its most likely gonna have a buggy glitch filled launch. Please no more cyberpunks.
Re: Japanese Gamers Aren't Impressed with PS5's Price Hike
@Sqush-Pare well you're obviously living in cloud cuckoos land. Sony care about lining there pockets. Anything that affects that in any way is either removed, deleted, changed. Sony need to get there head out of the sand and realise this is only going to push customers away, to the competition. There are people who have still got preorders of ps5s in the pipeline and im sure fhey are not going to want to pay another 30 to 50 on top of what they initially paid. I can really see there back pedalling. But really if your supportive on sonys decisions i feel sorry for you.
Re: Japanese Gamers Aren't Impressed with PS5's Price Hike
@Sqush-Pare sorry but increasing prices of a 2 year old console after its release means that people will think twice about getting a ps5. Sales will stagger even more (slow).
Sony ***** the bed and apparently simpletons will defend moves like this one...... you.