I imagine it will be similar to 'Spider-Man' which was "remastered" for PS5. Apart from replacing Peter with a new face, it was essentially a beefed up version of the game, including making better use of the PS5's SSD for instant transitions (vs load screens on PS4 version when entering enemy factories). Maybe like 'Spider-Man' it will be a bundle, throw HFW in there too.
I would put this question to the articles "Hardcore PlayStation Fans", do you think that the 'A team' of Guerrilla Games would be working on this? This will likely be getting knocked out by either a small percentage of the studio, while everyone else is working on HFW DLC or new IP, or another Sony studio entirely is handling it.
Like with the TLoU remake, vote with your wallet. If/when I eventually get a PS5, it will likely be part of PS+ Extra/Premium and when that happens, I doubt people will be opting to play the original PS4 version.
I'm big fan of HZD (see my Avatar), but personally I've bought it enough; with the original release on disc then the 'Complete Edition' later (was under £10 for digital copy). As a £70 re-release, no chance, but as I said before I suspect it will end up on PS+ Extra/Premium at some point.
It worked well for the 360 optional HD-DVD drive, look at how HD-DVD is thriving...
In all seriousness though, if this turns out to be true (a big if, imo) then you'll likely still have the same levels of attachment rates of disc & digital versions, but via an add-on rather than built-in. While it would necessitate the R&D and production costs of the drive/attachment method, on the other hand it could streamline their manufacturing and every system manufactured would be sold (ie the less popular model sitting on shelves).
If it was the same size/model disc drive, it shouldn't have an impact performance wise, in speed or noise. We would still be limited by the UHD drives read speeds, which even USB 3.0 connection would be far beyond (possibly even USB 2.0 would be enough). It would also give digital only owners the option to pick one up later and in the future if the drive develops a fault, it would be easier to replace, especially for an average consumer. Connect a new drive and you'd be back to being able to use discs.
I enjoyed 'Horizon Forbidden West' (although I think I prefer the story of the original), but its continued sales are likely down to the PS5 console bundles being included in the charts. The £530 bundle of PS5 + HFW seems to be much more plentiful in stores vs PS5 only £480 (up from £450 & £500).
I imagine an easy temporary fix would be to have a filter for these "games" under £1. It's seems like these fluff trophy games are all sold for pennies, so you could remove them with that one filter.
Personally though, trophies or achievements are only ever something I bother with, if I really like a game and want to extend my time with it. However if they have stuff tied to various difficulty levels or online trophies, I don't bother. While I've occasionally replayed games at harder difficulties (eg. HZD and it's 'Ultra Hard' mode), it's the exception, as I find higher difficulties usually just turn enemies into bullet sponges.
Add that to the list of reasons why taking a simple option of PS+ and/or PS Now subscription options, and changing into a 3 tier PS+ mess wasn't the best idea. Why pay £50/yr for PS Now, when instead you can get some of those games for £84/yr or all for £100/yr. Great for consumers...
They release the 'PS Classic' with a bunch of PAL games, get rinsed by both the press and fans for it, but then don't learn their lesson and include PAL games on the £100/yr service? What a botch job. Then they rush out a "NTSC games are coming soon" when it launches in the UK/EU, but no timeline. Be sure to keep giving Sony money in the meantime though, for the poorer PAL versions.
@EVIL-C You can use a USB stick to backup your saves (USB 3.0 or 2.0), and it would also allow you to backup your screenshots & video clips. As USB 2.0 sticks work, you may even have an old one in a drawer. Failing that, they are very cheap.
What I don't like is the fact that previously PS Now and PS+ were separate, whereas now to get access to the same games it's up to double the price. A point glossed over by most media outlets.
I have no interest in PS+, but could get PS Now for £50/yr. Now to play the same games, I'd now have to pay £84/yr (for less games) or the full suite of games for £100/yr, ie double the PS Now price.
"But you need online anyway", I don't, in the 5.5yrs I've owned the PS4, I've had PS+ in only 12 of those months. Also worth pointing out, online multiplayer was included for any PS Now games in the service.
So I'll ask, if all I want is access to the PS Now games, why do I have to now pay double the previous asking price? Am I supposed to be excited by the rebranding?
Like the 'easy loot' setting, I'm glad the game has plenty of optional settings to tailor the game to your liking. Even down to the custom difficulty settings, allowing for individual tweaking of the damage dealt & damage received, that should allow a lot more people to experience and finish the game.
I've played 3-4hrs on PS4 (base, CUH-1200 model) and haven't noticed any major issues. One time it seemed to freeze for 10 seconds or so when opening the map, but sorted itself and was fine after, I played for another hour or so.
I haven't noticed pop-in, but I do have an SSD installed in my PS4 (1TB Crucial MX500), so its possible the faster read speeds are reducing pop-in. Granted I've probably only spent about 60-90mins in the games main area, so it's possible I simply haven't reached more densely packed areas, that are maybe more prone to pop-in.
Remember when people swore up and down, and "analysts" guaranteed that a Switch Pro was coming? Be prepared for an OLED like disappointment, if you are grasping at PS3 trophy data signalling backwards compatibility & Game Pass competitior.
I'd be surprised if a PS version of Game Pass was anything other than simply a combination of PS+ & PS Now, likely tier system to keep standard PS+ pricing.
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Re: Hardcore PlayStation Fans Seem Dead Against a Horizon Zero Dawn Remake or Remaster
I imagine it will be similar to 'Spider-Man' which was "remastered" for PS5. Apart from replacing Peter with a new face, it was essentially a beefed up version of the game, including making better use of the PS5's SSD for instant transitions (vs load screens on PS4 version when entering enemy factories). Maybe like 'Spider-Man' it will be a bundle, throw HFW in there too.
I would put this question to the articles "Hardcore PlayStation Fans", do you think that the 'A team' of Guerrilla Games would be working on this? This will likely be getting knocked out by either a small percentage of the studio, while everyone else is working on HFW DLC or new IP, or another Sony studio entirely is handling it.
Like with the TLoU remake, vote with your wallet. If/when I eventually get a PS5, it will likely be part of PS+ Extra/Premium and when that happens, I doubt people will be opting to play the original PS4 version.
I'm big fan of HZD (see my Avatar), but personally I've bought it enough; with the original release on disc then the 'Complete Edition' later (was under £10 for digital copy). As a £70 re-release, no chance, but as I said before I suspect it will end up on PS+ Extra/Premium at some point.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
It worked well for the 360 optional HD-DVD drive, look at how HD-DVD is thriving...
In all seriousness though, if this turns out to be true (a big if, imo) then you'll likely still have the same levels of attachment rates of disc & digital versions, but via an add-on rather than built-in. While it would necessitate the R&D and production costs of the drive/attachment method, on the other hand it could streamline their manufacturing and every system manufactured would be sold (ie the less popular model sitting on shelves).
If it was the same size/model disc drive, it shouldn't have an impact performance wise, in speed or noise. We would still be limited by the UHD drives read speeds, which even USB 3.0 connection would be far beyond (possibly even USB 2.0 would be enough). It would also give digital only owners the option to pick one up later and in the future if the drive develops a fault, it would be easier to replace, especially for an average consumer. Connect a new drive and you'd be back to being able to use discs.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West and The Last of Us 1 Grounded in the Top 5
@UltimateOtaku91
I enjoyed 'Horizon Forbidden West' (although I think I prefer the story of the original), but its continued sales are likely down to the PS5 console bundles being included in the charts. The £530 bundle of PS5 + HFW seems to be much more plentiful in stores vs PS5 only £480 (up from £450 & £500).
Re: Press X for Trophies Is a Sad Indictment of PS5, PS4 Today
I imagine an easy temporary fix would be to have a filter for these "games" under £1. It's seems like these fluff trophy games are all sold for pennies, so you could remove them with that one filter.
Personally though, trophies or achievements are only ever something I bother with, if I really like a game and want to extend my time with it. However if they have stuff tied to various difficulty levels or online trophies, I don't bother. While I've occasionally replayed games at harder difficulties (eg. HZD and it's 'Ultra Hard' mode), it's the exception, as I find higher difficulties usually just turn enemies into bullet sponges.
Re: PSA: PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Removed from Service Aren't Yours to Keep Forever
Clear as mud.
Add that to the list of reasons why taking a simple option of PS+ and/or PS Now subscription options, and changing into a 3 tier PS+ mess wasn't the best idea. Why pay £50/yr for PS Now, when instead you can get some of those games for £84/yr or all for £100/yr. Great for consumers...
They release the 'PS Classic' with a bunch of PAL games, get rinsed by both the press and fans for it, but then don't learn their lesson and include PAL games on the £100/yr service? What a botch job.
Then they rush out a "NTSC games are coming soon" when it launches in the UK/EU, but no timeline. Be sure to keep giving Sony money in the meantime though, for the poorer PAL versions.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PS Plus Extra or Premium?
@EVIL-C
You can use a USB stick to backup your saves (USB 3.0 or 2.0), and it would also allow you to backup your screenshots & video clips.
As USB 2.0 sticks work, you may even have an old one in a drawer. Failing that, they are very cheap.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PS Plus Extra or Premium?
What I don't like is the fact that previously PS Now and PS+ were separate, whereas now to get access to the same games it's up to double the price. A point glossed over by most media outlets.
I have no interest in PS+, but could get PS Now for £50/yr. Now to play the same games, I'd now have to pay £84/yr (for less games) or the full suite of games for £100/yr, ie double the PS Now price.
"But you need online anyway", I don't, in the 5.5yrs I've owned the PS4, I've had PS+ in only 12 of those months. Also worth pointing out, online multiplayer was included for any PS Now games in the service.
So I'll ask, if all I want is access to the PS Now games, why do I have to now pay double the previous asking price? Am I supposed to be excited by the rebranding?
Re: Horizon Forbidden West's 1.09 Patch Makes Looting So Much Better
Like the 'easy loot' setting, I'm glad the game has plenty of optional settings to tailor the game to your liking. Even down to the custom difficulty settings, allowing for individual tweaking of the damage dealt & damage received, that should allow a lot more people to experience and finish the game.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West's PS5, PS4 Visual Issues a High Priority, Patch Incoming ASAP
I've played 3-4hrs on PS4 (base, CUH-1200 model) and haven't noticed any major issues. One time it seemed to freeze for 10 seconds or so when opening the map, but sorted itself and was fine after, I played for another hour or so.
I haven't noticed pop-in, but I do have an SSD installed in my PS4 (1TB Crucial MX500), so its possible the faster read speeds are reducing pop-in. Granted I've probably only spent about 60-90mins in the games main area, so it's possible I simply haven't reached more densely packed areas, that are maybe more prone to pop-in.
Re: PS4 Trophies Bugged Out with PS3 Labels and People Are Jumping to Conclusions Again
Remember when people swore up and down, and "analysts" guaranteed that a Switch Pro was coming? Be prepared for an OLED like disappointment, if you are grasping at PS3 trophy data signalling backwards compatibility & Game Pass competitior.
I'd be surprised if a PS version of Game Pass was anything other than simply a combination of PS+ & PS Now, likely tier system to keep standard PS+ pricing.