Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

@nomither6 You're not wrong that those two generations were special and you needed multiple consoles then, but like I said, it's partially to keep my own stupidity in check. I'm not afraid to call myself out when it's warranted.

If Microsoft never bought Bethesda, things would be a little different this generation. For non-Nintendo gaming, somebody could have easily gotten by with just a PS5 and not miss out on a whole lot until they bought Bethesda. Outside of PlayStation exclusives and Final Fantasy, a lot of the games are available on both outside of those games being exclusive to Xbox now. Regardless though, even though it would make me appear to be a fanboy when I am not, there is a nice simplicity to mainly gaming on one platform like I am right now.

its far cheaper and easier to own a ps5 and XSS, stack GPU with gold conversion, PSplus on a sale and enjoy everything on offer than worry about spending 70 on a game or missing out

I think it goes both ways in terms of fans hating on a brand. Some people here dislike Xbox and some people over at PureXbox hate PlayStation. It's just how it's always been.

Personally, I dislike Sony as a company and I don't like Jim Ryan as a leader. But I love PlayStation as a brand. On the other hand, I like Microsoft as a company and I like Phil Spencer as a leader. But I don't like the Xbox brand as much as PlayStation. I haven't touched my Series X in months, while I've been using my PS5 every day since I got it almost two weeks ago.

I'm glad though that I finally own all three current-gen consoles now. It's nice to not feel that I'm missing out on anything. Even though I'm not playing much on my Series X now, I'm glad that I have replaced my old base Xbox One that was so outdated and that I can play so many of my old games on it.

The only issue is that Xbox is severely lacking in new must-play exclusives, unlike PlayStation. 2022 was an absolute disaster for Xbox and the lack of new exclusives contributed to the lack of enjoyment of my new system. I really wanted to play titles like Forza Motorsport, Redfall, Starfield and Stalker 2 last year but all of them got delayed to this year instead. It's also crazy to think that without the Bethesda acquisition, Xbox would have even less exclusives this year. Absolutely mental how long it's taking for the Xbox Game Studios to come out with new games. Once Microsoft starts to actually pump out compelling exclusives though, that's when my Series X will finally get more use.

@Bentleyma It's a little absurd. I have a GPU sub, full of decent premium games, and I've spent the last month being utterly addicted to Vampire Survivors. A game that currently costs... what, $5? I think I've largely finished it now, but I keep playing because another thing it's good for is achievement harvesting, which is important for some Microsoft Rewards.

@KilloWertz true , the excessive clutter and cost can be an issue; wouldn’t call it stupidity , i can relate. i still get excited seeing multiple different retro consoles at stores and from peoples collections , it’s like i want them all and want to play them at once . it just comes with being a gamer 😃

i agree that it’s also nice to keep things at a minimum . i have my PS5, switch, and PC all in one area and it still feels like too much haha .

@Bentleyma When I went on vacation recently, I played it via Xbox game streaming to maintain my daily Game Pass login achievement. The quality and lag were usually awful, of course, because I never have luck with game streaming no matter where I go or what I play on, unfortunately.

Thankfully, once you know the upgrades to grab, bad lag and video quality largely won't interfere with the success of a run.

Hi, wasn’t sure where to post this.

I am thinking if trading in my Series X but was after some advice. I have its box, it’s good condition, it has the original controller, rechargeable battery and the 1 terabyte storage card.
I’ll be including some games too and all its cables.

Now, my dilemma, if I do this I’ll be getting a PS5. So my questions:

I can get a discount of £50 of a PS5 from John Lewis, however, would that be worth it if I trade my console in at Game? Would the value Game would give me if I got a PS5 from them be more then taking cash from them and getting a £50 discount?

And secondly, is a new PS5 round the corner? I’ve seen lots of rumours of a PS5 Gen 2 or something coming in September?

I appreciate this is a bit hypothetical and I’ll need to visit Game to find out any true value. Just after some opinions. I haven’t got space for both consoles and to be honest, I’m tired of waiting for the games ‘I’ want in the platform. I’ll probably just stream the ones I want in the future as I’m getting fibre broadband this year.

@S1ayeR74 Difficult to know exactly what is the 'best' route as Game will often give you less money unless they take it as part of a trade-in deal. Overall, they could offer more than £50 difference across the Hardware and Software to make it the better option but until you find out, even speaking to them and say you'd rather have the 'money' because you can get £50 off at JL may help you get a 'better' deal at game too.

As for a 'new' PS5 round the corner, its entirely possible - whether its a Slim design without a Disc Drive (but an optical port to add one) but still a 'regular' PS5 in terms of Specs or a PS5 'Pro' with upgraded specs, again you'll never know for certain. You could be waiting another year to get something 'new' but also could 'buy' a PS5 and get home to find out a 'new' design is coming later.

Anything I can say would be purely speculating - speculating that Game won't offer £50 difference between trade in against a PS5 (or Store Credit) versus giving you the 'Cash' to spend elsewhere, speculating on the likelihood of Sony making a 'new' PS5 etc. The best way to get money for your Series X and bundle of accessories, games etc is to sell it privately as you'll get closer to the full value of your gear. Game can't/won't offer anywhere near 'full' value - you'll get between 50% and maybe 75% of what its worth because they need to make money on it and can't sell it for 'more' than its worth so have to offer a less - but if you trade with Game, they can probably 'reduce' the Cost of PS5 and offer a 'bit more' in trade in value because overall they get the trade which gives them profits from sales of the hardware to you and not seeing 'money' going out on 'used' gear that may not sell immediately to bring in 'revenue'.

If you aren't in any particular Hurry, you could put it on Ebay as a 'buy it now' bundle (maybe even accept offers too) around its 'true' used value as a bundle and if it doesn't sell in the next couple of weeks, then consider your other options - like Game for example. Maybe waiting will also give you more 'information' regarding a potential 'new' PS5 too - if its coming Sept/Oct time this year, you'd expect to hear something within the next month or two. With the Summer Game Festival season coming, its more likely to be 'confirmed' around then if its coming at all...

@BAMozzy Thanks, makes sense. I’ll have a think. Not sure what it’s value is really? I’ll have a look on eBay and see what they go for. I don’t want a Pro model as it’ll cost more. But from what you say I guess selling in eBay and a discount at JL could be the best value route to go. In two minds at the moment. But no Gears seems to be coming soon and State Of Decay 3 is MIA still, and they will be in Xcloud anyway.

@S1ayeR74 Selling yourself is always going to be the 'best' way to go as you'll get much closer to its full value as opposed to selling it to a store who also have to make money and therefore will never offer true value. It's often a trade between getting rid of everything as quickly as possible to get something quickly in return (some cash or another product) instead of maybe having to wait until it sells privately and therefore not being able to get your 'alternative' as quickly.

As for Xbox games, you don't 'need' a Series X unless it offers the level of performance/visual quality you want to play those games at and/or can't afford anything 'better'. Its not like Playstation where you need a PS5 to play their First Party games day/date and that is the 'ONLY' level at which you can play.

The Cloud may well offer you the opportunity to play SoD3, Gears, Redfall, Forza, Starfield, Perfect Dark, Fable, Avowed, Hellblade 2 etc etc, if you can only 'stream' them, you are basically playing at a 'entry' tier - at best 1080p (720p on mobile networks) and 60fps at best with increased Latency/Lag (even if its less than 10ms) and Streaming Compression artefacts (blocky looking shadows or gradients are common examples). So compared to playing Games on a PS5 (or Series X as its 'equivalent'), it's like going back a generation and not the 'best' way to play.

Of course, if you have a decent PC/Laptop for example, then you can use these to 'run' the games natively anyway. You don't 'need' an Xbox Console - it just depends on whether or not they offer the best bang for buck for what you will use them for. A Series S is perfectly good enough if you don't want/need more than 1080p res and can be found 'cheap' used too if you just want 'something' to play Xbox exclusives on and has a much bigger Library of games than 'Cloud' as well as access to all 'digital' games you may own inc GwG games that may not be 'streamable' - its the entry hardware tier, but does offer advantages over Cloud....

But ultimately, if you want to switch to PS5, its better to sell everything yourself as you'll get the most money back that way. If JL can sell them £50 less, chances are Game may well be able to Price Match too - especially if you are trading in something they could potentially make that money back on (or more) but you won't know until you 'try'...

@Ralizah sounds like you are addicted to the rewards Ral. Keeping achievements for the dailies is the number 1 sign.

Three great leftfield recommendations for everyone in the thread;

Turnip boy commits tax evasion - 4 hours
Opus echoes of starsong - 12 hours
Chained echoes - 45 hours

All of them are great!

@themcnoisy Definitely. I'm even consistently hitting the daily achievement for collecting a trophy.

Microsoft Rewards is, far and away, my favorite reward system that I engage with. I wish Sony and Nintendo had an equivalent.

lmao

Xbox gamers can't catch a break lately.

In before the “it’s fine as it’s free on Gamepass” comments.

I’m sure Gollum will have something to say about that, as much as I wish otherwise.

Sad to see as Arkane was one of my favourite developers although I am very unlikely to ever play an Arkane title again.
I do wonder if some of the core talent left (the new studio made Weird west), fingers crossed for Xbox fans that their next title is back to top form.

This is all I have left you can't take this from me 😂

👏 bravo!

It's absolutely amazing how fast my hype for Xbox went up and then down during these past few years. I was completely on board with Game Pass initially but now it's become completely uninteresting to me due to lack of first-party releases. Even when new releases come out, like Hi-Fi Rush and Redfall, I just don't feel like playing them because my hype has completely died down now after having waited over a year for something new to play.

It doesn't help either when you see a review like the above one. We'll have to see what the rest of the reviews say about Redfall.