Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

Are honestly a bit tempted to buy an Xbox sometime this year. Especially if I find a good deal somewhere. Not that Playsation are lacking good games but yeah some Microsoft exclusives are a bit temping. Guess we will see what happens.

Wow, that Xbox Developer Direct was actually pretty good. Forza Motorsport looks impressive as hell, Redfall looks like tons of fun and then we have the shadow drop from Tango Gameworks: Hi-Fi Rush, which looks absolutely phenomenal. Genuinely cannot wait to delve into it this weekend.

This was probably the best showcase that Xbox has made in a very long time. And that's without Starfield. I'm actually kinda excited for Xbox in 2023.

I'm definitely playing Hi-Fi Rush this weekend, that looked great!

@ManifoldCuriosity same thing happened to me, mostly played old games and just sold it, congrats on the Series S though.

@LiamCroft I've just had a quick go through Xcloud and it's great fun, kind of like Crypt of the Necrodancer but you time your attacks to the beat and it looks fantastic. I can see this being a popular one

I’m literally hovering over the ‘buy’ button for an Xbox Series S! I’m so tempted. High on Life looks great, so does Hi-Fi Rush. Plus there’s several Xbox One games I’d like to play, like ReCore and Quantum Break. It would also be nice to replay games like Conker: Live & Reloaded and Lost Odyssey.

@LN78 Is it? I knew it was coming out on Switch, but I didn’t realise there was an Xbox version, too.

I bit the bullet and bought one. Might as well own all three current consoles.

@LN78 That’s pretty cool. I just watched the trailer for it. Shame they didn’t add online multiplayer.

@LN78 @Bentleyma From what I've understood the Nintendo version is the N64 rom. And the emulator has multiplayer baked into it. The Xbox version is a new version and therefore doesn't have that option.

Don't know if that is true, but thats what I've read from multiple sources around the time when Goldeneye got officially announced again.

@Bentleyma I'd argue its worth it just for the games available through backwards compatibility, plus it's very easy and great to use for emulation should you want to

HiFi Rush looks very cool. Otherwise - I liked the format and general execution of the Developer Direct but none of the other games shown are interesting to me (although Forza looks excellent from a tech point of view).

@Bentleyma I believe Nintendo own the IP and Rare own the Assets/code - so unless they came to some mutually beneficial solution to 'BOTH', the game would be stuck in Limbo hell.

Nintendo are using the 'Original' N64 game code/assets and using their 'online' system to bring online to the game - as Switch Lite for example isn't really designed for Split Screen co-op. No disrespect to Switch, but its not a 'high' res console and running '4' instances of the MP - albeit at 'quarter' resolution, maybe too much for the Switch and definitely not 'ideal' to play on its built in tiny screen. It perhaps makes more sense for Nintendo to switch to Online MP.

Rare/MS are using an 'updated' version and keeping to the 'Original' couch co-op MP suite the game was designed to offer keeping that authentic Goldeneye 'couch co-op' MP experience that made it so popular back in the day and Xbox certainly has the 'horsepower' to run up to 4 instances of the MP simultaneously in high res on Large 4k TV's at a decent frame rate. It doesn't 'need' to add Online to something that never had Online.

Nintendo can now offer the 'Original' Goldeneye made by Rare with a 'new' way to play the MP, Rare offer the Original Goldeneye 'experience', inc the authentic couch co-op, but with a 'new' make-over. Nintendo are offering 'Goldeneye N64', and MS are offering 'Goldeneye Remastered' and 'neither' can 'sell' to make money off the other's owned licenses. If Nintendo sold Goldeneye, they'd owe Rare money for their code/assets and if MS sold it, they'd owe Nintendo for using their IP - so both (I believe) are ONLY available on their Sub service - as well as through purchasing Rare Replay as that isn't 'selling' Goldeneye specifically but a collection of Rare made games.

It was a case of negotiating a way to bring Goldeneye back without 'screwing' over the other and 'profiting' directly from anothers License. If you 'sub' to Nintendo or Xbox services, you are subbing to access a 'collection' of games, you are not 'buying' a license for 'Goldeneye/Goldeneye: Remastered' and therefore some money has to go to License holders etc - same as those who play through Rare Replay as you buy a 'Rare Replay' License, not a Goldeneye specific license.

@LN78 sadly its not that version, it just looks to be an emulated version of the N64 game

@LN78 As far as I know, NO its not the XBLA one that was at one time planned - that had 'online' MP support too. I don't know what they are using - just that it supports 'modern' control schemes, 4k, 16:9 support etc and obviously no online support.

I don't know that I'll bother playing anyway. I am thinking it maybe better to keep my Rose tinted memories intact of the countless hours I spent playing MP with friends/family - often until stupid o'clock in the morning, beating 'every' mission on 00 agent to unlock 'every' cheat/bonus/extra etc, instead of being 'disappointed' as it hasn't aged well. The amount of hours I spent playing Jet Pac, Knightlore, Sabrewulf etc, even games like Jet Force Gemini, Perfect Dark etc but when I bought Rare Replay, it wasn't a pleasant 'nostalgic' trip back so maybe better to keep the memories intact.

Its great that 'old' games are still playable on modern Hardware, preserved for new generations interested in the 'history' who missed out first time around, but I lived through it all and experienced them when they were 'fresh', cutting edge and nothing else like it around, being 'blown away' by how every character was recognisable as the 'actors' face but now looks terrible because graphics have moved on a LOT.

@BAMozzy no its definitely not the XBLA version as it looks nothing like this (below). Looking at the trailer it seems to be the N64 game emulated with some plugins for widescreen etc. The telltale signs are the hud text which is very low resolution, you can see the character LOD models when further from the camera and there's been no mention of 60fps from what I've seen.

@LN78 At the time, I had no issues with the N64 Trident and actually had more issues with my DS1 in terms of Comfort, but my 'Golden' N64 Goldeneye Controller was my 'number 1' controller for that era.

The last time I played N64 though must of been around 2005-ish as I had given it to my 'youngest' to play (he beat Mario 64 at around 3yrs old) and played a couple of MP matches on Goldeneye but even that has 'positive' memories because it was 'fun' times with my kids.

Now, my youngest is gaming on PC's, has his own place too and being over 50 now, not so interested in 'couch competitive MP' or tarnishing the memories, most of which are 'better' due to the company, the era etc more so than the game itself which was the catalyst that brought people together to build great memories.

@carlos82 As I said, I don't know for definite what version they are 'releasing' but I do know it isn't the XBLA version that leaked. Difficult to always tell from a trailer as you don't know how it was captured and/or what compression may be used for example. No trailer on my laptop ever looks as 'good' as playing Natively on Series X/PS5 on my 4k HDR TV - especially if the video is only 'HD' Youtube Quality!

Whether it 'looks' better/worse than the 'leaked' XBLA version is almost redundant as we won't get to play the XBLA version, just like we didn't get the 'visuals' promised by Watchdogs, or the 'Puddle' quality in Spider-Man in that one area - things can and do change. Its still up to you to decide whether you still want to play the 'versions' you can and if so, which platform you want to play on - if you have a Choice..

Just played up to St.Petersburg on Goldeneye. Seems weird playing it on an Xbox. Haha.

Hi-Fi Rush is sooooo addicting and such a brilliant gem. It feels like a mix between Devil May Cry and a Rhytm game and all in a cool cartoony art style. You don't even have to be good at it to play the game. The attacks will always land on the Rhytm you just get bonus points. I would higly suggest trying it if you guys have gamepass.

As suspected and confirmed by the developer, Goldeneye is the N64 rom emulated using RARE Replays existing N64 emulator.

I had a quick go this morning and by an large its pretty good, it does have some minor slowdown here and there and is 30fps, plus the very low resolution text is a disappointment. Oh and weirdly it reminds me of a PS1 game as the environment kind of wobbles.

On the plus side the controls have been adapted well, much better than the Switch version and by default the aiming locks in the centre of the screen if you like that

@LN78 yeah its certainly better then playing it on an N64 game these days and by and large does look nice and they did a great job with the controls on this version, though I'll probably turn the sensitivity up a little up.

Overall its great that modern audiences are getting to play it and us older folk have a convenient way of doing so again