@Fight_Teza_Fight Xenoblade is absolutely the worst HANDHELD game from the list. The games are very poorly optimized for undocked specs and suffer from terrible resolution dips in large open areas.
SMT V will look a little low-res undocked as well, but it runs well enough and image quality is more stable across the board, and is a fantastic monster-collector. And, honestly, if you're using a 4KTV, it might look better undocked anyway. The Ori games look and run perfect undocked, afaik, but I can't vouch for them as I've not played them yet. They review extremely well, though.
@Ralizah I’ve exclusively played the Xenoblade remaster in handheld mode and it’s alright. It’s less the frame rate that’s dipped and more that it just kinda looks like ass.
Thanks everyone! I think I’m leaning towards SMT V now. I never played XC 1, but did watch a lets play of it. I owned the DS version, but never actually got to it. My issue is the battle system is pretty fast & I’d rather use a controller over joy-cons.
Ori I’d rather play using a DualShock/Pro, but at this point I don’t think it’ll ever be on PS.
Lives, Lived, Will Live.
Dies, Died, Will Die.
If we could perceive time for what it really was,
What reason would Grammar Professors have to get out of bed?- Robert & Rosalind Lutece
@nessisonett@LtSarge Yes, the horrendous resolution dips that make it look awful are my concern. It's not quite as bad as XC2 was about utterly bottoming out, but it still dips to sub-PS Vita resolutions. Not a great way to experience these games.
@Fight_Teza_Fight If you have a Pro Controller, you could always prop it up with a tablet stand and play it that way.
Apologies for taking such a long time to reply to this @Ralizah but I only took a quick glance and thought the entirety of your post was to me (instead of some being directed to sol as well) and put it aside for when I had some time to properly look it over from how long it looked.
Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Mostly. Gameplay is some of the best it has ever been (the exploration is fantastic and addictive), and I love how it integrates demons into the overworld environments so seamlessly. There are some mechanical alterations I'm not a fan of, though. Music and combat are great. Side-quests are well done. Presentation is kind of a mixed bag: it's obviously far more ambitious than anything Atlus has attempted before, but it pushes against the limitations of the system enough that it can feel a bit rough at times. Where it massively slips up is with the narrative: the main plot is hugely underdeveloped, and, as a result, you never feel like you really get to know any of the characters. Plot-wise, it's probably the worst game in the series to date. This wouldn't be an issue if it was like Nocturne, which builds the experience around the idea of not knowing who anybody is or what the hell is going on, but in SMT V, it just feels underwritten.
That's an interesting takeaway Ral I honestly wasn't expecting to hear. I saw the first 20 minutes or so of a SMT V stream and they seemed to set up a LOT more human characters then Nocturne which you very well know has a grand total of 4 human characters. (6 if you include the protag and Hiriji in the mix.).
I saw they were promoting the humans a fair bit too in trailers for V and I honestly got the impression it'd be more story focused then 3's uniqueness with it's rather lonely atmosphere.
Not a big deal for me, since I mostly wanted (and got) an atmospheric monster-collector out of this, but SMT IV and SMT IV: Apocalypse made huge strides by integrating more memorable characters and gripping storylines into the usual SMT formula, and SMT V feels like it went backwards in this regard. I also wouldn't mind having more dungeons in the future, as there aren't very many in this game, although I do hope they maintain the heavy exploration and platforming elements going forward.
Those sound like good additions that fit the more unique structure Nocturne and V seem to embody compared to the others. Good to hear that the demon collecting seems to shape up nicely!
So far, if I had to rank the games, I'd probably go:
SMT IV: Apocalypse > SMT IV = SMT V > SMT I > Nocturne
Still need to play Strange Journey and SMT II, though, and considering I haven't played it in seven or eight years, I really need to revisit SMT IV again. And, of course, all of the spin-offs I haven't gotten around to yet.
Nocturne last? 😮
Damn... That reminds me I actually need to go read that review of yours... Maybe'll that explain why you clearly have bad taste!!!
... Kidding of course!
But I do need to read it as I did kinda miss your review of it.
I've played the... Aeon Genesis (I think they're called?) Translations of 1 and 2 via SNES through totally legal means.
I got further through 2 from what I recall but I never finished either to be honest.
I missed strange journey thanks to being in the UK. The DS/3DS era of releases was not the best of time to be a Atlus fan if you didn't live in the US. I was much more against digital releases at the time which was why I never played SMT IV being Digital only in Europe and I never bothered with Apocalypse seeing as I didn't touch IV.
I played the devil summoner game that came out on 3DS though... But... I quickly got bored of it to be honest.
And yeah, I really think some people are setting themselves up for disappointment by holding out for a possible port, although, in the case of someone like yourself who only really plays on Playstation anyway, it makes sense. I still think it'll end in tears for a lot of people, though, like the whole Persona 5 on Switch epic did. Atlus is very stubborn with its exclusives, and Nintendo was clearly heavily involved with the distribution and marketing for this game.
I actually would've got a Switch by now if it wasn't for... reasons that have not bore fruit.
I'm also very aware how unlikely it is to be ported over to PS4 (Though PLEASE give it to me Atlus) given how weirdly stubborn Atlus are and at times incredibly stupid they are like... WHY IS THERE NOW AN ULTIMAX PORT?!?! That'll saitiate the calls for Persona 5 on switch they'll ask about in ANOTHER survey they'll send out surely!
I can see SMT V making a jump to PC maybe... But that still means I won't get round to playing it -Sigh-
... Kinda completely off topic but I really hope Monster Rancher 1&2 DX isn't "stuck" on Switch and PC either as I REALLY wanna give that a shot. It looks fun and I ain't paying stupid money for a PS1 disc of Monster Rancher...
@Kidfried I also think Mario 3D World is the best Mario of the last ten years but I would probably go further than that. I'll probably lose my Super Mario Credibility badge for this, but I would actually rank 3D World as my third favourite 3D Mario game ever - only beaten by Galaxy and Galaxy 2.
I also don't like Breath of the Wild as much as most people but I do like it a lot. I just think it has way too many major problems to be as revered as it is.
Tropical Freeze though, I loved. I actually didn't play it until last year when I picked it up for Switch and I really, really like it. Although I probably could have had it one world shorter and I'd have been okay with that.
That's an interesting takeaway Ral I honestly wasn't expecting to hear. I saw the first 20 minutes or so of a SMT V stream and they seemed to set up a LOT more human characters then Nocturne which you very well know has a grand total of 4 human characters. (6 if you include the protag and Hiriji in the mix.).
I saw they were promoting the humans a fair bit too in trailers for V and I honestly got the impression it'd be more story focused then 3's uniqueness with it's rather lonely atmosphere.
Yeah, despite the similarities to Nocturne (thematically, design-wise, and in terms of the lore), the marketing made it seem like it'd be more story-driven than that game, at least, and featured a heavy emphasis on the characters. Also doesn't help that the previous games both had a much heavier focus on character development.
Those sound like good additions that fit the more unique structure Nocturne and V seem to embody compared to the others. Good to hear that the demon collecting seems to shape up nicely!
Yeah, I... really hope they keep incorporating platforming elements and complex, open-air dungeons into future games. Maybe with a little more environmental diversity, though.
In most respects, SMT V feels like what I wish SMT III had been, though (aside from the elements Nocturne did better: plot and atmosphere).
Damn... That reminds me I actually need to go read that review of yours... Maybe'll that explain why you clearly have bad taste!!!
... Kidding of course!
But I do need to read it as I did kinda miss your review of it.
Having played it more thoroughly, Nocturne has revealed itself to be a lot more obviously flawed than I initially realized. It's still a good game, but I think I'd probably say DDS1 is my favorite MegaTen game on PS2 at this point (with the sequel easily being the worst). I do explain all of my gripes in the review.
I've played the... Aeon Genesis (I think they're called?) Translations of 1 and 2 via SNES through totally legal means.
I got further through 2 from what I recall but I never finished either to be honest.
IMO if you decide to play the original again, go with the GBA version. It has the official Atlus localization patched into it, and the presentation has been touched up just enough that it's actually very enjoyable to play. I blitzed through it on my phone earlier in the year and had a great time.
Still stuck with the SNES version of II if you don't speak Japanese, though.
I missed strange journey thanks to being in the UK. The DS/3DS era of releases was not the best of time to be a Atlus fan if you didn't live in the US. I was much more against digital releases at the time which was why I never played SMT IV being Digital only in Europe and I never bothered with Apocalypse seeing as I didn't touch IV.
It was arguably a better time to be an Atlus fan in the US than the PS2 era, since they were so prolific. Sucks that European distribution of their games took so long to happen, though.
I played the devil summoner game that came out on 3DS though... But... I quickly got bored of it to be honest.
Aww, I love Soul Hackers. One thing I really dig about many of the 3DS SMTs (I guess this is technically a Saturn SMT, but whatever) is how so many of them have this amazing cyberpunk vibe to them.
I'm also very aware how unlikely it is to be ported over to PS4 (Though PLEASE give it to me Atlus) given how weirdly stubborn Atlus are and at times incredibly stupid they are like... WHY IS THERE NOW AN ULTIMAX PORT?!?! That'll saitiate the calls for Persona 5 on switch they'll ask about in ANOTHER survey they'll send out surely!
I never expected P5 on Switch (Atlus is more stubborn than online portbeggers, so this was no surprise), but the fact that P4G HD never made it to PS4 genuinely mystifies me, considering how synonymous it is with the Playstation brand
Incidentally, the latest update to SMT V removes the PS4 configuration settings entirely, but considering I still have friends who swear Atlus is going to port P5R to Switch, I'm not expecting rumors to ever die down (unless they really do port it, I guess).
Kinda completely off topic but I really hope Monster Rancher 1&2 DX isn't "stuck" on Switch and PC either as I REALLY wanna give that a shot. It looks fun and I ain't paying stupid money for a PS1 disc of Monster Rancher...
If I recall correctly you really liked MR2 right?
MR2 is one of my favorite PS1 games, yeah, and my favorite game in the series overall. Best assistant character, my favorite minigames, and a big step up over the original, which felt a little too rudimentary for my liking. I really, really like the simulation elements in the game as well.
And, of course, the disc gimmick is amazing. Choosing music tracks in the Switch version won't have the same charm, although I'll be glad to own a portable version of the game.
And so different from games like NSMB [...] that constantly amaze me... especially in the last worlds, I'd love to add.
That... is a take, I'll confess.
3D World was always a pretty good game, and the nasty reaction to it was mostly born from people seeing it as a replacement for a more ambitious sandbox style Mario game. I'm glad Nintendo re-released 3DW after Odyssey came out, since I think people are more able to easily appreciate its creativity now.
The way you feel about Tropical Freeze, I feel about DKC2. I'll never understand the acclaim it receives. Or most of that era's DKC games, if I'm being honest.
I do really love Retro's take on the property, though. Returns and TF are both awesome platformers.
@Kidfried 3D World’s alright but just not really my tastes. Even in the later levels, it just felt like I played it on autopilot. Nothing registering above a 7 in terms of enjoyment but a technically decent game. I love Sunshine though so I probably have the less popular opinion 😂
@Octane To be fair, it’s mostly nostalgia talking. Sunshine has its problems but the vibe is great and I love the sandboxey feel over the more traditional point A to B levels from Galaxy.
12 games (down from 26 last year).
220 hours (down from 345 last year).
52 in XC:DE, 43 in SMTV, 30 in ACNH.
5 hours in one day for SMTV
100% playtime docked.
Currently Playing:
Switch - Blade Strangers
PS4 - Kingdom Hearts III, Tetris Effect (VR)
My stats:
2 Games down from 11 last year.
13 hours down from 263 last year.
Bowser‘s fury nine hours
Hyrule warriors age of calamity 4 hours.
100% docked.
62 hours on Super Mario 3D All Stars; 47 hours on The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD; 35 hours on Metroid Dread.
56% portable, 44% docked.
Interesting split between portable and docked, as I typically dislike docked. I think docked was mostly split between Super Mario Galaxy and Skyward Sword. No idea how I managed 35 hours on Metroid Dread, but guess I died a lot facing the E.M.M.I. My Switch backlog is now quite large, so I imagine my playtime will balloon over the coming months.
@nessisonett Yeah, I've played on my Vita a lot this year. Mainly Ys games and the first Cold Steel. It's still a great little handheld.
646 hours played (up from 540 last year) / 194 hours docked; 452 hours handheld (probably almost all on my Switch Lite, as I rarely undock my big Switch these days)
105 hours on Shin Megami Tensei V; 85 hours on Monster Hunter Rise; 72 hours on The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles
Most active day was Monday, Nov. 15th, when I spent 11 hours with SMT V
Might be spending less time on it next year, though, as I want to clean up my backlog on secondary systems like PS4 and Wii U.
Only 39 hours for me on Switch this year 😂 33 of them on Bravely Default 2.
Although I have played about 10 hours of Xenoblade Chronicles 1 in the past couple of weeks, but I can’t be bothered to update the system software so I am stuck offline.
It probably says a lot about Xenoblade that I played it the most of any game this year on Switch by almost double the time yet I’m only on chapter 11 of 17. That game is like walking through molasses.
Forums
Topic: Nintendo Switch --OT--
Posts 5,761 to 5,780 of 7,181
Please login or sign up to reply to this topic