Topic: Nintendo Switch --OT--

@Haruki_NLI Well that’s utterly baffling. I really have no words for that.

@nessisonett Yeah er...yep I got nothing.

So PC and PS4 can already buy DQXI that looks better, but to get the extra content they need to pay AGAIN for a worse looking version.

Did Square see what Atlus managed to pull with Persona 5 or something and tried to one up it? Like...at this point just buy that version on Switch where it's not underperforming visually.

@Haruki_NLI I have to say, that’s the strangest decision I think I’ve ever seen in the gaming industry. At least Persona 5 was just a director’s cut, like they did with 3 FES and all those Squeenix International/Final Mix versions. This would be like porting the DS version of Ni No Kuni to PS4 instead of the PS3 version, because reasons.

@nessisonett The differences between DQXI/DQXI S aren't nearly as drastic as the differences between NnK DS/NnK PS3. It's just some cuts to draw distance, lighting, and environmental detail.

@Ralizah Yeah, it’s more along the senses that I’ve never seen a technically inferior version being ported over without a touch up before. I’m just absolutely baffled at the decision.

@nessisonett It'll have a resolution boost. It'll be like playing a docked Switch game at 1080p instead of 720p. But really, the game looks great on my TV. The drop from PC max settings and 60fps to the PS4 version is far more jarring, IMO, and you can play this version without your ears bleeding.

People did say they wanted DQXI S content to lose Nintendo exclusivity, and, well... it did.

The version to keep your eye on if it really bugs you is the PC release and the inevitable high-res texture mod they'll use to try and fix their ported Switch game.

@Ralizah I actually didn’t know it was also coming to PC. Looks like that’ll be the version I’ll be getting then, someone will inevitably merge the two versions.

@KratosMD I’ve not been happy with Nintendo’s output either to be honest. Animal Crossing is great, and nothing like the rest of the series funnily enough, but I’ve bounced off it by now and I’m on the lookout for something new. If there were trailers for Bayo 3 and Metroid Prime 4/BoTW 2 then we could at least be hyped for them but they were announced far too early. At least there’s SMT V to look forward to.

@Arugula I’m beginning to think that success and Nintendo don’t mix for me. I love the Cube more than the Wii and the Wii U more than the Switch. At least with Wii, they were constantly trying to innovate with the controller though. I loved Skyward Sword’s controls but everyone seemed to hate it. Even just playing Mario Tennis with the Joy-Cons’ motion controls brought back so many great memories of Wii Sports, those controllers on the Switch are so so under-utilised. I still don’t get the love for gyro-aiming though, I still have nightmares about Black Ops on Wii. There’s a reason I played the Goldeneye reboot with a Cube controller.

@Arugula Even though I’m not big on the sheer number of ports compared to original games Switch gets, I’d love some remasters that weren’t last-gen games and were N64, Cube or Wii. They have to know that everybody would lap up an Ocarina of Time or SM64 HD remaster or a Galaxy double pack.

So out of curiosity I've taken a look at all first party developed, or first party owned, third party developed, games exclusive to the PS4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch. This isn't including games that released on previous systems first, so stuff like LittleBigPlanet 3 and Breath of the Wild are out, or VR games, due to needing a seperate system. This also excludes Nintendo Labo and Ring Fit Adventure as a result.

PS4

Dreams - Media Molecule
Knack/The Playroom/Bloodborne/The Tomorrow Children/The Last Guardian/Gravity Rush 2/Everybody's Golf/Knack II - Japan Studio
SingStar Celebration - London Studio
Concrete Genie - PixelOpus
Guns Up/Kill Strain/MLB the Show x 8/Drawn to Death - San Diego
God of War - Santa Monica
Days Gone - Bend
KillZone Shadowfall/Horizon Zero Dawn - Guerrilla
Ratchet and Clank/Spider-Man - Insomniac
Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy/TLOUP2 - Naughty Dog
Gran Tueismo Sport - Polyphony
Infamous x2/Ghost of Tsushima - Sucker Punch

PS4 Total - 35, though less if we fudge out PS3 releases of MLB, in 7 years.

Xbox One

Gears of War 4/5 - The Coalition
Halo 5/Halo Wars 2/Halo Infinite - 343
Bleeding Edge - NinjaTheory
Forza Horizon 3/4 - Playground
Kinect Sports Rivals/Killer Instinct/Sea of Thieves/Battletoads - Rare
Forza Motorsport 5/6/7 - Turn 10
State of Decay 2 - Undead Labs
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Crackdown 3
Cuphead
Ori x 2

Xbox Total - 19/21 depending on how you count Cuphead/Ori after 7 years. Thats actually kinda yikes.

Nintendo Switch

Snipperclips - SFB
1-2 Switch/ARMS/Animal Crossing New Horizons/Jump Rope Challenge/Splatoon 2/Super Mario Maker 2/Super Mario Odyssey - Internal
Astral Chain - Platinum
BoxBoy + BoxGirl!/Kirby Star Allies - HAL
Cadence of Hyrule - Brace Yourself
Clubhouse Games/Super Mario Party - ndCube
Brain Training - indieszero
Fire Emblem: Three Houses/Paper Mario: The Origami King - Intelligent Systems
Fitness Boxing - Imagineer
Flip Wars - OverFence
Good Job! - Paladin
Links Awakening - Grezzo
Luigis Mansion 3 - NextLevel
Mario Tennis Aces - Camelot
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 - KoeiTecmo
New Pokemon Snap/SuperSmash Bros. Ultimate - Bandai Namco
Pokemon Sword and Shield - GameFreak
The Stretchers - Tarsier
Tetris 99 - Akira
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - MonolithSoft
Yoshi's Crafted World - GoodFeel

Breath of the Wild 2/Bayonetta 3/Metroid Prime 4 - Upcoming

Switch Total - 31, 34 if we include upcoming titles, that are published/funded for/owned by/developed by Nintendo. In 3.5 years.

To be honest the other day I looked at various studios output over time. Even when going from 7th Gen to 8th Gen, output slowed down HARD across the board.

@Haruki_NLI The fact that you can remove all of the updated re-releases from Switch and include a ton of yearly baseball game releases on PS4 and its output still manages to nearly equal PS4's in about half the lifespan is pretty damn impressive, I think.

Although I do want to quibble about certain exclusions:

Breath of the Wild released on the same day for both Wii U and Switch, and it was reworked to favor the Switch late in development, so it only makes sense to disinclude it if you're only including exclusives, which you don't seem to be.

You included Uncharted TLL but not Torna: The Golden Country, which is pretty similar in that it was offered as DLC but is its own separate game that can even be purchased independently from XC2.

And Ring Fit Adventure doesn't require a separate system. Labo is fair, but RFA literally only requires a ring peripheral that can't be purchased separately from the game.

@Haruki_NLI You missed
PS4 The Order 1886 - Ready at dawn
Switch Bayonetta 2 - Platinum

@Ryall Bayo 2 wouldn't count. It's a Wii U port.

@Haruki_NLI I think you missed a lot: The Order 1884, Until Dawn, DriveClub, Final Fantasy VII Remake (till April 2021 but may be irrelevant later), Firewall Zero Hour, Resogun, Shadow of the Beast, Wipeout, PaRappa The Rapper Remastered, Tearaway Unfolded, Street Fighter 5. They are from the top of my head.

I kinda expected Little Devil Inside to be console exclusive, but based on the official website, it's going to every modern platform. Switch included.

@Haruki_NLI from PlayStation Now’s exclusive list : Alination , counterspy , Dead nation apocalypse Edition , Entwined , Escape plan , everybody’s gone to rapture, hardware rivals , Hohokum , Super stardust ultra.

Okay do a lot of you seem to have missed the part where I said "The platform holder has to OWN THE IP".

Stuff like Final Fantasy 7...timed exclusive. Death Stranding, Sony doesn't own. Firewall, PSVR game.

The point was, people act like Nintendo has had very few original games that they own/developed on Switch specifically, when in fact that is not the case. So far in 2020? Sure. But even the other platforms have fallen from where they were in terms of output in other generations quite considerably.

Like how did Insomniac manage 3 Resistance games, 6 Ratchet games all on PS3, and go to one Xbox One, one multiplat, two PS4 and a few mobile?

Said it before, and I'll say it again:
The output on Switch has been great compared to every other modern platform when they were at this point in their respective lifespans, and even compared to a lot of their older systems.

It's just rougher for Switch because of the almost complete absence of modern AAA stuff.

With that said, I've even be pretty happy in 2020. We've gotten two pretty big Nintendo releases, two Atlus games, several good indies, XCOM 2, all the Bioshock games, etc.

God y'all are a bit butthurt your narrative got cut down aint ya?

Okay so lets include Housemarque. Congrats. You added 4 games.

So I take it we count something that Nintendo paid to have developed, bought the license for, as not first party yeah?

So lets add Death Stranding. Hell, I included Marvel Ultimate Alliance because low and behold, its funded by Nintendo.

Heck, lets just open it up to "Games they acted as publisher on". Lets do that.

So do we include Call of Duty in Japan? I mean, Sony published it, they dont own the IP, but lets include it. Its not exclusive to their platform, they only put the disc out in one region. But thats EXACTLY like Tetris 99 which was licensed to and funded by and then published by one company.

So for PS4, if we include Death Stranding, regional publishing of third party titles, even if they arent exclusive, I counted 113. That included Housemarque, that includes Tetris Effect, that includes, heck I'm even including Destiny 2 and DC Universe because Sony published it. Hell that includes the DriveClub Bikes DLC because why the hell not right?

But no remasters or re-releases, obviously.

113. Seven years for 113 published games, AT LEAST. I aint scoffing at that.

For Nintendo, if we include stuff like Dragon Quest Builders, to be fair since we included stuff like CoD for Sony, and we added Ring Fit, and we disregard the status of the game because that isnt what we were measuring thank you very much, we included Playlink in this for God's sake, and games that aren't even available anymore, but still exclude Labo, still exclude remasters to be fair as that was the complaint.

We reach 51. In 3.5 years. Happy now? Just under half of the output, in half of the time. Because believe it or not, I forgot stuff like Pokemon Cafe Mix, Pokemon Quest, and I omitted Octopath Traveler and Daemon X Machina, because as has been stated to me multiple times: "That's not Nintendo". But lets not include that but we will add Sony publishing CoD in one reason just to inflate those numbers yeah?

It doesnt matter what the numbers say, okay? Sony still published more games regardless of if I missed some or not. That is factual.

The statement made was that the Switch has had, in half the time on the market, half of the total published games. It's not as bad as you think.

I can sure as hell see the case for all the games being bunched up in terms of releases, but that doesn't mean they arent there.