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jim_bob_89

@BranJ0
You wont regret that decision at all!! Danganronpa universe is one i never wanna leave. On no other PS4 game will u become so close with like you will here with these colorful, emotional characters on the Danganronpa series. I happened to stumble on this series by luck and have not missed a single shred of content released there afterward. I have every game including Ultra Despair Girls (which in my opinion is my least favorite, but still a good game) I have all the anime Blu-Rays, all the manga magazine editions dedicated to Danganronpa and I even bought the soundtrack!!! I cannot tell you how pleased I was to become immersed in this crazy and amazing world with all these loveable and (also hate-able) cast of Ultimate characters, each with their own shining unique personality and traits, and I know you will be so thankful that you found this series!!

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jim_bob_89

@Kidfried

I love DR2!! A lot of people I talk to usually say they like Trigger Happy Havoc better than DR2: Goodbye Despair, but I (by a considerable amount) like DR2 much better. I thought that Nagito and the dreadful, threatening dangerous feeling of a looming threat just made the atmosphere so compelling in that one. The Hope's Peak Academy halls in the 1st were also intimidating and had me on high alert a lot, but nothing compared to the 2nd!! To me, its mainly due to the stellar cast of students on the 2nd. For instance, the 1st had many that I just could not really become that attached to like Mondo Owada, Celeste Ludenberg, & Hifumi Yamada, among others. Not saying they didnt have a unique and special personality, but for different reasons, these characters just didnt grow on me like the sequel's cast did. Hajime is a much better and filled out protagonist than Makoto Naegi (in my opinion). And the threat and malicious feeling in the background and scenery on Jabberwock Island just makes for a really intense play through. Plus, Fuyohiko, Gundham, Sonia, Mikan, Hiyoko & so many more awesome characters really really grew on me and I fell in love with them.There were a few who obviously didnt earn my affections as well such as Kazuichi (a crybaby stalker who came off as very selfish to me) and also the boring Nekomaru Nedai. The only downfall to DR2 is the huge amounts of scenes with Monomi in it, oh and Chapter 4. I wont spoil anything but the chp where your in another reality just didnt sit well with me as well as the other islands. Not saying that I didnt like Monomi being included, cuz I did and I think she is an important asset to the cast of the game, but I didnt like having to listen to her and Monokuma every five seconds babbling nonsense. But still, 10 out of 10 stars for both Trigger Happy Havoc and DR2!!! And while Im at it, I also think V3 gets 10 out of 10 stars. I wish these games would gain the recognition and attention they deserve!!! Love hearing from all you fellow Danganronpan's out there. Stay tuned for the next Spike Chunsoft (dev's who work on Danganronpa) game that is kinda similar to the story arc of Danganronpa. Zanki Zero

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Ralizah

@jim_bob_89 I enjoy all of the games, but I'm particularly passionate about Danganronpa 2. It's one of my favorite games of all time, and my love for it informs and fuels my enjoyment of other games in the series. The lovable cast, amazing twists, wonderful atmosphere (I feel like DR2 really got the combination of absurd humor and dark, larger-than-life drama and themes just right, whereas the original struggled a bit to find this balance), and gameplay improvements made this game for me.

Case in point: I initially played THH, enjoyed it, and then dropped it without a second thought. Once I played DR2, though, I couldn't get it out of my head. I did all of the extra stuff to get the platinum trophy and then, fueled by my love for the game, I decided to revisit the first game and clear out of the trophies such for it as well. You know it's a great game when it even improves your opinion of previous games in the series.

And yes. THANK YOU! Finally, someone else who thinks Chapter 4 was underwhelming. It's not bad, but it doesn't match the wonderful atmosphere of the rest of the game.

At this point, I'd rank the games:
Danganronpa 2 > Danganronpa V3 > Ultra Despair Girls > Trigger Happy Havoc

I think UDG is fantastic, and probably the most underrated game in the entire series due to the narrower focus and change in gameplay.

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jim_bob_89

@Ralizah

I agree with about 95% of your statements. Yes, DR2 is way more fleshed out of a game than the 1st. I was amazed after playing through the first time and then coming back for a 2nd play through to see all the wonderful and brilliant little hints and references that are littered throughout the dialog. I mean the devs did some 5 star writing on this one. And the despair was far more dark and brooding, even the mode where you go on dates with classmates that you unlock after you beat the game feels more "right". Yeah, but like you said UDG is a great game, I just had to rank it last in terms of the lack of characters, but no doubt I still loved Kimora and I will always love Genocide Jack!! Ha. The villains, (can't remember their name for the life of me) in UDG were amazing!! I thought they were actually cute kids for awhile till I saw how sadistic and neo-Satanic Monica turned out to be!!! LOL.

Gotta question for ya. On Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony, have you played a lot of the board game where you have to go roll the dice and make it around the board while collecting Talent Fragments and building bonds and leveling your character up? If so, have you discovered the Future Course, which becomes available after beating the game on Mean (I presume???), but anyways , when you land on an Event Square on the whole Future Course, every time it introduces scenarios of Ultimate students never before seen (or at least not to my knowledge) I remember one guy was the Ultimate Boxer, another chick with green hair was the Ultimate Pharmacist, and it seemed to me that each one of these characters (whether it was just random names being pulled out of a hat or not) had a pre-determined backstory. Or in better understandable terms, it made me feel like Spike Chunsoft may have been hinting that these students could be in the future Danganronpa mainline games? I am always intrigued by any character in a Danganronpa game whether its a tiny role or big one, my interest goes thru the roof!! But on another note, it could also mean that those guys I saw were members of the Future Foundation and were assisting students in their daily lives at Hope's Peak Academy. I dunno though, I feel like this is a hint at things to come for the Danganronpa series, whether it happens soon or years from now, I dunno, but I feel like those names and their talents will be brought back to everyone's attention at some point or another in the future. Sorry I didnt mean to write so much, but I was just curious as to your opinion or thoughts on that as you seem to be well informed and intelligent on all things Danganronpa?!!!!!!

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Ralizah

@jim_bob_89 UDG's cast is definitely limited, but I absolutely love the growing friendship between Komaru and Toko. It's my single favorite relationship in the series.

I actually didn't know that the Future Course was unlocked through replaying the trials on Mean, but that makes a lot of sense. I replayed all of the trials on Mean difficulty with Maki's Financing skill to grind monocoins for gallery unlocks and the arcade early on (before I got better at Outlaw Run and started making 100k on 1k wagers, which meant I could stop wasting monocoins at the casino) before starting the board game mode, so I just assumed it was unlocked by default.

Anyway, the characters you mentioned in the Future Course are actually characters from the Future Arc of the Danganronpa 3 anime that brings the story arc of the first two games to a close.

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Ralizah

@Kidfried

I thought the isolated setting felt out of place, and the entire scenario felt fairly forced, like the writers were just forcing the game to continue, whereas I was genuinely engaged in the group dynamics and mysteries of Ch. 2 and 3. But many players think Ch. 4 is one of the best in the game, with Ch. 3 representing the low point of the game for them.

Also, the identity of the killer was more obvious to me due to the crime scene clues than in Ch. 2.

You're pretty far in now, huh? The last two chapters are crazy. Be sure to post your thoughts.

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Ralizah

I loved the final set of twists in DR2 a lot more than in the original, and I feel, unlike the original, there was a pretty heavy amount of foreshadowing, which made the reveals more satisfying.

Also loved the world-building and the way it connected itself pretty intimately to the first game, while also creating a sense of their being a wider universe (which is important in UDG and the Danganronpa 3, where the wider context takes center stage).

In terms of individual chapters, I really liked the unique motive and (very emotional) trial in Chapter 2, the atmosphere and heavy foreshadowing of Chapter 3, the incredibly unique logic of Chapter 5's mystery, and the absurd yet epic scope of Chapter 6.

Chapter 1 was way better than in the original game, but definitely inferior to the first chapter of V3. Chapter 4... as I said, it was the only one that didn't really do much for me. I really liked the escape game sequence, though.

@Kidfried Kudos for finishing the game!

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Th3solution

@Kidfried Sweet! Hopefully you enjoyed it enough to continue with the series. My goal has been to platinum UDG before going on to V3. UDG is quite good too, just very different from the first 2 mainline games. No trials and murders. It’s 3rd person shooting with some mild RPGish leveling, but mostly it is story driven like the other games. And it has Genocide Jack, so how awesome is that! 😜

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Th3solution

@Kidfried Ha, ha! Yes. What’s not to like about a scissor wielding, dual personality, homocidal romance novel writer with a penchant for rich boys? I mean, she’s so relatable. 😂
But I definitely recommend the game for its story arc. It really fills in the gaps between the two games and it does so in a unique way with the 3rd person shooting mechanic. The shooting itself is average, I mean, it’s not Metal Gear Solid or Mass Effect, or even Uncharted as far as gameplay goes, but the other things it does are very good. I went in expecting a 6-7/10 average shooter, and was pleasantly surprised how good it is. Mostly because I’m playing on Vita, which has a dearth of good shooters anyway, so it fills a void. I’m not sure how well the game translates onto PS4 and I have a feeling it will probably feel clunky on it. Perhaps someone can comment who played it there. But it works on Vita, especially for the story. It just depends how much you want to explore the Danganronpa world and core concepts.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Ralizah

@Kidfried UDG is weird. It looks like a third person shooter, but most of the shooting bits are very puzzle-y, and there are heavy VN elements to it.

It's not really necessary if you want to continue on to V3, but it's good for getting a sense of the wider Danganronpa universe beyond what is introduced at the end of DR2. And you'll want to play it if you're planning on watching the anime that brings the story of the first two games to a close, as characters from UDG show up in it.

@Th3solution Have you been platinuming all of the games? I'm working on the platinum for V3 right now and... let me tell you, it's work. There is a massive amount of extra content in this game. I've spent 30 hours doing postgame stuff and trophy hunting and haven't even scratched two of the bonus modes.

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Th3solution

@Ralizah I platinum’d the first game, which wasn’t so bad. I found it fun to fill out all the report cards and learn more about each character and the bonus mini game where you build the monokumas was actually pretty fun. I have not done the platinum for D2. The addition of miracle girl monomi was more time than I could muster, so I didn’t even try and I sit at 58% trophy count on that game atm. UDG seems a much more obtainable platinum; I’m playing it really slow and I’m on the final chapter and hopefully I haven’t missed any collectibles but I may have to grind a little bit for monocoins and to hit the 1000 kills. If I missed anything, I’ll have to see if it is worth it to go back. It’s the old dilemma of spending an extra few hours for the trophy vs. moving on to more games in my backlog. I just enjoy these, so I put a little extra time, but it sounds like V3 platinum will be more effort than I have in me. I’ll see.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Ralizah

@Th3solution I platinum almost nothing else, as I generally don't like trophy hunting. But it's become a tradition that I don't want to let die.

It will have to if it becomes PS4/Switch only, though. I'm not buying the inflexible version of a game just for trophies.

The Monomi game isn't too bad, as you do just eventually get everything. UDG and its ton of tiny, easily missable collectibles is way more work. I think I had to play through almost the entire game three times straight to find them all.

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Th3solution

@Ralizah I’m becoming less trophy obsessed due to my huge backlog, but I’m still pretty bad about it. As long as the hunt is enjoyable, then I’ll shoot for extra trophies. I get the same rush of accomplishment when I hear the trophy chime as I get when I defeat a boss in Bloodborne 😅. The good thing about the Danganronpa trophies is they are not inherently difficult, unless the V3 ones are different, but they require time and grinding. If a game has a trophy which requires a crazy speedrun, or completing the game on ultra hard difficulty, or doing something stupid like “defeat 10 enemies within 3 seconds while standing on your head, first using a grenade then a poison dart followed by C4 explosion”. I just don’t even try those types of trophies. But Danganronpa’s are at least reasonably possible to accomplish.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Ralizah

@Th3solution Yeah. Just wait until you play V3 and it asks you to S-rank the arcade games on "mean" difficulty.

It's called "mean" for a reason.

Upupupupupupupupu~

All of the other trophies are basically just down to grinding, though. I guess, in a sense, even these skill-based ones are down to grinding in the sense that if you throw yourself at them hundreds of times, you EVENTUALLY get them. I'll be seeing Treasure Hunter! Monolith in my nightmares for years to come, though.

Imagine playing a tedious puzzle game where you have to break colored blocks in groups hundreds of times over the course of, like, 2 weeks.

And then imagine listening to this music when you do...

I eventually got it, though. When I finally platinum this, it'll be my "proudest" one, I think.

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Th3solution

@Ralizah Ha, ha! I kept waiting for the music there to change, but it’s the same little tune over and over. I’m sure you’re hearing that in your head all day long now. 😂
Well, thanks for the fair warning. I probably will just play the game like I played D2 — try to get the most out of it and all the trophies that come with delving into the game naturally and then save the grinding for later when/if I ever want to go back to it.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Ralizah

@Th3solution Putting aside the evil arcade game trophies, the grindy trophies mostly involve really involved bonus modes. There's nothing here like the Monomi game where you have to grind the same levels over and over in the hopes of getting a rare drop you need. There are two interconnected game modes, entirely seperate from the dating sim mode, that are so elaborate that they could be their own game (not a retail game, but definitely a $20 downloadable one). They're just stuffed with unique content. It's crazy how much post-game there is here.

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jim_bob_89

@Ralizah @Th3solution

I actually really enjoyed platinuming both Trigger Happy Havoc & Goodbye Despair! (or DR1&DR2). I did however, not like the monomi miracle girl minigame, not because it took me a long time, but I had basically gotten sick of playing the same levels over and over in search of one damn type of gear that it was hard for me to stomach. I found the dating sim and getting to know the classmates and strengthening bonds a blast and one of the highlights from the Danganronpa series in terms of characters that stay with you forever. I am currently about 95% finished with the trophies in UDG and holy smokes, you arent kidding about the difficulty of V3's insanely complicating Treasure Hunter Monolith. I still lack both the trophy for that and the Racing minigame. Luckily, V3 has way more depth and variety of game modes that encourage replayability so the grind doesn't feel so taxing. These games all have such an amazing cast that honestly, I find myself playing through them again in like 1-2 year gaps so I'm sure I'll platinum V3 by say next year, or maybe the next Danganronpa!!

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jim_bob_89

@Kidfried

Congrats and hope you enjoyed the game as much as i did. And to answer the question about how well UDG holds up on PS4, it does well but it also carries with it a bunch of flaws. The AI is so out of date and buggy sometimes, that you will fail your one shot opportunities simply because the Monokuma enemy sentry gets hung up on a wall or is running into a wall and doesnt have enough smarts to back up and redirect itself. Its just a few minor flaws such as this that really caught my eye, but other than that, really the only other drawback for me is the gameplay. Like everyone has already explained, this is a shooter. And I will admit, the devs are not the greatest at making this kinda game experience work. Its fairly easy however, and well worth it just for the characters and dialogue and the lore and backstory of the events from the other games. If you are anything like me, you will need to gather every morcel of info about this world as the tight lipped Kodaka will give. God, i hope he gets over the issues he is having with his attitude and outlook on the series and decide to give the series another shot!!

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Ralizah

@jim_bob_89 Outlaw Run is very doable if you practice enough and learn the track. There is a bit of a luck element in terms of the monocub distribution (obviously, the more Monodams that spawn, the more like you are to hit 20,000 points), but I didn't feel like it was anything insurmountable. Oh, and when you do get good at it and consistently get A - S ranks, you'll never have to worry about casino coins again if you're wagering the max amount on mean difficulty.

Treasure Hunter! Monolith is... hell. I don't even think there's much of a skill component to it. You just have to hit your head against it hundreds of times until the gods smile down on you. So glad I got the trophy done and over with. When I go back to DRV3 to platinum it, I only have to worry about that insanely grindy board game and JRPG cycle. The hair pulling trophies are out of the way now.

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jim_bob_89

@Ralizah
I've actually just recently been working on some of the board game trophies and can give ya little insight on the ones I have just recently completed. Ok, if the 2 I have gotten recently are the only 2 (and I think they are but not positive on that) then its really not too much effort involved. You do have to make your ultimate's strong enough and leveled up high enough to make it to Floor 50 under the game mode Monokuma's Test. It is a rpg-like system, a watered down one at the least, but as long as you keep drawing stronger and more special cards for your Ultimates, then you will have it in no time. Now, after Floor 50 is a pure nightmare and I ended up giving up on it after the 50th. The 2nd trophy I recall is (this one may take SEVERAL attempts or your first Ultimate-level card) one that will require you to complete all 3 years worth of the practical exam the Monokubs give to you at the end of each school year. It may not sound hard, but the 3rd years exam is no walk in the park, requiring you to survive 3 pretty tough battles back to back. But once you start drawing Ultimate level cards for your party members to take on Monokuma's Test, then winning all 3 years of exams will be a breeze, but like I said there is a steep curve till you get ready for that. But, anyways I may be wrong about those 2 trophies being the only 2 regarding these modes, but I sure as hell hope that Monokuma test mode doesn't require you to get past floor 65 cuz I wont be doing it if so. Its brutally hard to survive a single round from the enemies at that point, they're so tough!!

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