@nessisonett I wasn’t watching them but was able to find the footage uncensored on some Twitter feed from Japanese television. That was… uncomfortable. At first it looked staged, until second time Smith yells “keep my wife’s name out of your f**kin’ mouth!” Then Rock clearly started to feel uncomfortable and stammered through his next introduction.
I’ve always wondered how the M.C. of these kinds of events can get away with roasting celebrities and saying rude things about people. The joke was a relatively minor one, but obviously sometimes people are sensitive about certain things (in the case of Mrs. Smith, her hair loss disorder) and I just find most comedians and most stand up comedy so incredibly rude.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
Talk crap and you run the risk of getting a slap. It's not as if he put the guy in hospital. Having said that, it's fair game at an awards ceremony like this, you know there are going to be some harsh jokes so you should steel yourself for the worst before hand. And hey, G.I Jane is a tough character so is it really a terrible comparison..? Not a good look for anybody at the end of the day, very embarrassing!
@kyleforrester87@RogerRoger I think that the response was brought on by the dutiful feeling to defend his wife’s honor, rather than how harsh the joke actually was. If Rock had poked fun or highlighted one of W. Smith’s physical attributes then he probably would have laughed it off.
I agree that context is key, and I think we’re all guilty of saying things we regret and innocently offending someone when we think we are either being funny or simply making conversation. I’ve learned through harsh experiences to never comment on someone else’s appearance or physical qualities. Even if you think you’re giving a compliment, it can sometimes backfire. Highlighting and bringing attention to something even as innocent as a haircut can strike a nerve from which you have to pull the proverbial foot out of your mouth.
I had an acquaintance several years ago who struggled with body dysmorphia who taught me that even commenting on my own physical qualities (like saying “oh man, I feel so fat after that huge meal”) was triggering to their disorder. So I had to adjust when and how I could make such comments and in what context.
Being in a mixed group of people or a public setting is particularly difficult to navigate. I was once carrying on and joking around with a group of friends and said something innocently about a group of people that I thought was funny (nothing horrible mind you, it was just a social club of people who were not present or represented there at the time) and everyone laughed so I kept going and then one person piped up and chastised us for joking about them in such a flippant manner. Awkward muted laughs from everyone followed, just like what the audience did after the first scolding that Smith yelled out at the Oscars. People thought it was still a joke, until it was clear that it was someone truly coming to the defense of a person (or people) not present. It pulled the air out of the room, but needed to be said. I learned a life lesson that day, and have tried to be more sensitive since. And I suspect Chris Rock will also think twice in the future if he makes a joke about someone’s wife or family member.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
I was never really that fond of Chris Rock but the way he handled the situation was literally pretty cool. Will Smith, on the other hand, completely lost his head. Mad git. Hollywood eh?
@LN78 I saw this and added it to my wish list straight away, along with An American Werewolf in London. I think the majority of the 4K blu rays that I own are older films that I grew up with in the eighties, nineties and noughties.
Glad to hear Robocop got a decent transfer!
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I watched The Wretched last night (included with Prime). It wasn’t bad at all tbh, but anything with a witch in it gets an extra couple of points in my book.
@Fragile If it was something like the MTV Awards i would agree with you. But I don't think they are that desperate for viewers to pull a stunt like that.
And Will Smith has since come out and apologised to Chris Rock.
The more I've thought about the more I think Will Smith was more in the wrong. The joke was in bad taste, but nothing more than that, and wasn't even that bad. He should have just said something behind the scenes.
Of course it it easy to say all that in hindsight and I understand when emotions are running people can do things they later regret. But it does come across like a mollycoddled celebrity being a bit out of touch with what goes on in the real world.
Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
@JohnnyShoulder obviously he caught his wife’s reaction, felt crappy for laughing and by the time he knew what he was doing he was committed to walking up on stage. I think he realised what he was doing was messed up as he got there which is why he didn’t hit him with a closed fist lol.
I still think that’s what happens sometimes when you run your mouth in real life, we are all used to doing it on twitter and forums with no consequences 😂
@LN78 I see there is a sweet Texas Chaninsaw Massacre 4K set (the original Tobe Hooper one) available, but currently only in Germany. Hopefully it comes to the UK soon!
Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
I went to see Uncharted tonight and I’m happy to report it surpassed my expectations - not that they were very high in the first place
It’s an OK movie for the most part but ends in a properly epic sequence worthy of the source material (and not just lifted from any of the games either).
I had a decent time.
@nessisonett@LN78 It gets better each time I see it. Not seen it too many times though as I don't wanna ruin it. Probably more funny than most standalone comedies released since it came out.
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@LN78 I put it in the same bracket as films such as Joker in that I thought it was well crafted and the actors were all really good. I just didn’t find the experience that enjoyable.
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