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RogerRoger

Yeah, I dunno. As much as I'm trying to keep current with the MCU now, there's something about Eternals which makes me think I'll leave it 'til I absolutely have to watch it (in other words, when its storyline or characters become significant crossovers in something I actually care about).

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nessisonett

@Th3solution The Hawkeye font and marketing is lifted from the comics it was based on!

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Th3solution

@nessisonett Ah, well I guess that at least makes some sense. I’d thought Disney had lost their branding and artistic edge with this one. I can respect that they are trying to stay true to the comics then.

It’s just that it looks like the art design you’d see for a kids show on Nickelodeon or the packaging on the Barbie Playhouse box. Hawkeye is supposed to be this Ronin badass, not some cosmopolitan softie.

Perhaps back in the day, there was only so many fonts to choose from 😛

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nessisonett

@Th3solution See, this is where the problem lies. Hawkeye shouldn’t be a ‘badass’ at all really, and any sort of characterisation along those lines is misguided. He’s too silly to be played straight. He’s basically an idiot who runs around with a bow because that’s the only thing he knows how to do. He’s absolutely better as a Spider-Man like hero with mundane problems and no money than a SHIELD agent which robs him of all personality.

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Th3solution

@nessisonett Was his Ronin persona just a complete fabrication unique to the MCU?

And having only seen a couple episodes, it sounds like Kate Bishop fits the description of what Hawkeye was in the comics. Good with a bow, but a bit of a socially awkward and goofy character.

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nessisonett

@Th3solution Ronin was a thing and did directly lead to Kate Bishop taking on the Hawkeye mantle but it was the result of an extended ‘grimdark’ influence on the comics which all seems a bit silly looking back on it. The MCU is primarily influenced by the Ultimate universe iterations of the characters which again has aged incredibly badly. In that, Hawkeye is the whole stoic agent with zero personality which he is in the MCU but then his family were slaughtered due to Black Widow betraying them so there’s that. Hawkeye as a character was just done dirty by Whedon and there wasn’t really a clear way back from the damage he did without extensive retcons.

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Black Lives Matter. Enough is enough.

RR529

Also caught the original X Men film on TV the other night. Definitely showing it's age, but still an interesting look back on how far we've come (also reminded me how much I loved watching X Men Evolution as a kid).

Since (most) of the X Men films are on Disney+, I'll probably start watching through them since there doesn't seem to be much Marvel content releasing on the service in the first half of the year other than She Hulk sometime in the spring. Since No Way Home is likely skipping D+ until sometime next year, the next movie will probably be Multiverse of Madness sometime in the summer after it's may theatrical release.

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Th3solution

@RR529 I suspect No Way Home won’t come to Disney+ given the weird Spider-Man franchise rights. Homecoming and Far From Home aren’t on it.

There are some good X-Men movies (and some bad ones). I think they are all good except for X3 The Last Stand, which although bad, is actually not as much a travesty as the internet makes it to be, and Dark Phoenix, which is as bad as it’s made out to be. Oh, and X-Men Origins Wolverine is supposed to be bad but I never took the time to find out firsthand.

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RR529

@Th3solution, I did read an article this past week that Sony did reach a deal with Disney to have some of their films on Disney+ in the US (primarily the Spider Man movies I'd imagine), but that Starz & Netflix have "Pay Window 1" rights (meaning they'll get them first, for up to possibly 18 months before they can go anywhere else), while Disney signed on for "Pay Window 2" rights (meaning they'll get them after the previous window is finished).

It said that while the older (and legacy) Spider Man films might be added this year, No Way Home probably won't be available until 2023 (or even 2024).

That said, my parents sub to Netflix, so if it does show up there sometime this year, I can probably just watch it there now that I think about it.

EDIT: As for the X Men (& related) films I think I've seen them all at some point or another, but haven't watched the original trilogy (except for my mentioned rewatch of the first) or Origins Wolverine since they originally released in the 00's, so it'll be fun rewatching them since I don't have much recollection of them.

I do have a soft spot for First Class, Days of Future Past, & Apocalypse due to the period piece nature of them (but they kind of run together for me as I usually catch bits & pieces of them on TV), so it'll probably do good to actually watch them in full sittings. I actually got the Wolverine on BD (though just because it's set in Japan, lol).

Unfortunately Logan probably isn't on D+ as it's "R" rated (it's the only one I haven't yet seen), and the Deadpool movies are almost certainly absent as well for this reason.

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Th3solution

@RR529 Yeah, I’m not sure if Disney+ has a hard line on rated ‘R’ films never coming to the service, but it seems so.

Many people feel Logan is the best of the bunch, although I thought it was merely good, not great. But I’m an anomaly there. I really liked Hugh Jackman in it and what was done with the character, but he’s probably one of my top 5 favorite actors so I like nearly all his performances. What I didn’t care for in Logan was some of the other elements involved and the story and other characters were actually a bit of a letdown, for me personally. It’s hard to put my finger on it, especially without spoilers, but I’m sure you’ll like it, because everyone does. I probably need to watch it again since I’ve only seen it once. Sometimes movies are better the second time.

I’ll be curious how you like your revisit of the franchise.

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RogerRoger

@RR529 I was about to assure you that Logan, as well as the Deadpool movies, are in fact available on Disney+ but then I noticed your geographical location, and remembered that Disney+ isn't a single, unified service in its home country. It looks like Logan is on Hulu, which you might have access to, depending on your level of Disney+ subscription. Worth checking, just in case.

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RR529

@RogerRoger, yeah, I just have the base subscription. I thought about upgrading to the bundle quite awhile ago, but I subscribe through Amazon as an intermediary, and while you're allowed to subscribe to D+ & Hulu individually that way, for whatever reason you can't bundle them together through that method.

I mean, it probably wouldn't be hard at all to cancel through Amazon & then simply sign up directly with Disney, though I'm not sure if it would be recognized as the same account & would probably lose my watch history (and that of the other family members' profiles).

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nessisonett

I’m hoping Oscar Isaac’s truly terrible English accent is on purpose in Moon Knight, due to it being a whole split personality deal. Otherwise they really heard that and thought, ‘that’ll do’. Sounds like Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins and Keanu Reeves in Dracula had an ungodly baby.

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RogerRoger

@RR529 It really is unfortunate how the legacy platforms overcomplicate the situation for you folks, especially since it's all American companies making American shows and movies. You'd think they'd simplify the service as quickly as possible but you're right, I have no idea if you'd lose your details, watchlist and family profiles if you switched access methods.

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@nessisonett I wasn't gonna bother with the trailer, but now I'm curious!

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colonelkilgore

Finally got to watch Spider-man: No Way Home… was alright I guess but no where near the greatest superhero movie of all time that some critics proclaimed it. Thought it was the weakest of the Holland Spidey’s until the last 30 minutes and then it was ‘saved’ somewhat.

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nessisonett

@colonelkilgore Were many critics really saying that? I thought it was more the ‘nerd’ outlets using that sorta hyperbole because while I did enjoy the movie a lot, it was absolutely designed for that specific subculture with the callbacks and such.

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Black Lives Matter. Enough is enough.

colonelkilgore

@nessisonett yeah, maybe I was a bit too liberal with the use of the word ‘critic’ 😅… they were just Youtubers I visit for comicbookmovie news and the like.

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Th3solution

Gradually making my way through Hawkeye and am 5 episodes in and really gotta say — after the initial couple episodes it’s much better than is advertised. I’ve been selling myself short by ignoring it. Kate Bishop is growing on me more and more. She’s lovable in that awkward and witty way. I really like her chemistry with Clint so far. I don’t know who the actress is, but I think this will springboard interest in her for future projects.

The story is actually compelling, which I couldn’t say for Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

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nessisonett

@Th3solution I don’t know if you’ve seen it but Hailee Steinfeld was in True Grit years ago when she was quite young and was up for an Oscar for it. Hawkeye probably has the most Oscar nominees out of all the Marvel projects now that I think about it, the three main stars are all Oscar nominees.

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Black Lives Matter. Enough is enough.

Th3solution

@nessisonett Nice! I’ve got an eye for talent and didn’t know it. 😄
Haven’t seen True Grit. I did take a peek at her filmography and looks like she’s the VA for Spider-Gwen in Into the Spider-verse. That the extent of my exposure to her.

Speaking of, I had thought the one LARPer with the super deep voice sounded familiar. I thought maybe he was Miles’s uncle in Into the Spider-verse, but it looks like it’s not. His filmography has nothing familiar but I swear I’ve heard his voice before.

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