@WanderingBullet Like LN78 says, it’s a bit confusing, but based on some of the output lately which based on your watch history you know that Kingpin shows up as the major villain in Hawkeye and they use the same actor, Vincent D’Onofrio. What an awesome reveal that was!, we can safely say they are the folding Netflix shows into the MCU. I think they shut down the Marvel TV division that was making the Netflix shows and just moved the team over into the Disney Marvel Studios if I understand correctly.
I really need to watch the Netflix shows but there are just so many and so little time.
On a related note, I’d rand the D+ shows as:
1 - WandaVision
2 - Hawkeye
3 - Loki
4 - What If…
5 - Falcon and the WS
😂 So almost the complete opposite of yours. But I’ve enjoyed them all. It’s just that Falcon felt a bit slow to ramp up and the season seemed to drag. I did like the chemistry between the two characters though.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@LN78 Personally, I thought The Matrix Resurrections was terrible. Story was way too meta and convoluted. It had some pretty poor visual effects as well as underwhelming fight sequences. Not too mention relies heavily on nostalgia to drive its narrative.
As for Shang-Chi, I thought it was pretty good and would probably give it a 7 out of 10. Would’ve been even better though if he was only fighting his dad at the end and not another computer generated giant monster. Tony Leung’s a great actor and his performance really stole the show for me, making Wenwu one the best MCU villains in my opinion.
Whilst not all the shows are great, the Netflix shows really does have some of the best live action supervillains. Like Kingpin (Daredevil), Cottonmouth (Luke Cage), Bushmaster (Luke Cage), and Jigsaw (Punisher).
@LN78 Yeah, I suspected based on previous conversations that it was going to probably grate on you. Since the whole thing is basically powered by nostalgia for all the prior Spidey movies. I know you’re not a fan of rehashing old material and cashing in on nostalgia. Still, I think the way they pull in the other versions of Peter and all the villains actually fits with the multiverse idea. A lot of the multiverse is just weird cross-over, but this took the idea and sort of explained how these different Peter Parkers could exist. Granted, it was all just pandering and not something that was planned 20 years ago to get to this point, but it was pretty fun to see all these actors reprise their roles. And it was great to see Daredevil show up amongst all the Easter eggs.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@LN78 I also had a hard time with how cavalier Dr. Strange was with the spells he was casting. Although he was always a maverick and strong willed, he never came across as foolish, unwieldy, or short-sighted before and so it just seemed hard to believe the characterization. But it had to fit the narrative place they were going.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution Dr Strange 2 was supposed to come out before No Way Home, but since Dr Strange 2 was delayed they had to rewrite parts of No Way Home. So that may be why Dr Strange is so inept in No Way Home. He has to mess up the spells to introduce the multiverse because his movie that was supposed to do that hasn't come out yet.
@Th3solution I might as well rank them too
1. Loki
2. Hawkeye
3. WandaVision
4 What If...?
Haven't watched TFATWS yet
If I had to put Moon Knight somewhere based on the two episodes I've seen, it'd probably be second.
@LN78 I have no clue why people are mad over the PG rating. People flipped when they saw that The Batman was PG-13 and not an R. People love to assume things about movies and series based on age ratings.
Thor 4’s trailer is finally out, wow. This movie looks great. It seems like this is the end for Hemsworth as Thor which I’m ok with. Marvel seems to be retiring the original avengers and introducing new ones (Kate Bishop, America Chavez, etc).
I love what Taika Waititi is doing to the Thor series, can’t wait to see more of Love & Thunder
@Jackpaza0508 Considering it’s out in a couple of months, I have no clue why they put out a trailer which doesn’t actually give any indication what the movie’s about. No mention of Christian Bale or really any hint of the villains, just a random montage of scenes.
@nessisonett I have to admit, that's very odd. Even No Way Home's first trailer which released within a few months of the movie revealed a lot about the story and all of that important stuff.
"The film finds Thor (Chris Hemsworth) on a journey unlike anything he’s ever faced – a quest for inner peace. But his retirement is interrupted by a galactic killer known as Gorr the God Butcher (Christian Bale), who seeks the extinction of the gods. To combat the threat, Thor enlists the help of King Valkyrie (Tessa Thompson), Korg (Taika Waititi) and ex-girlfriend Jane Foster (Natalie Portman), who – to Thor’s surprise – inexplicably wields his magical hammer, Mjolnir, as the Mighty Thor. Together, they embark upon a harrowing cosmic adventure to uncover the mystery of the God Butcher’s vengeance and stop him before it’s too late. Directed by Waititi (“Thor: Ragnarok,” “Jojo Rabbit”) and produced by Kevin Feige and Brad Winderbaum, “Thor: Love and Thunder” opens in theaters July 8, 2022."
This really seems like this is the last we're seeing of Thor.
Finished up Moon Knight last night. Put more detailed thoughts in the TV Show thread, but overall it's the weakest Disney+ exclusive so far, IMO (and I'm counting the Star Wars stuff too when I say that).
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I’ll have to agree with @nessisonett that the movie didn’t really do much to create any momentum for the post-Infinity saga MCU. It was a slight let-down after No Way Home.
But the film is not completely a waste and I’d probably place it in the 3rd quartile of MCU movies — not quite among the worst, but not quite average either.
The issues lie with some of the acting, and also the overall storyline. Acting-wise, some of the new characters come across poorly due to flat performances, and even some of the returning characters just don’t feel like they are selling their parts. Cumberbatch and Olsen are actually good, especially Olsen as she appears to have mercifully abandoned her bad Sakovian accent permanently.
As far as storyline, weaving together a multiverse concept is never easy, and this movie unfortunately doesn’t solve the challenge of balancing narrative threads to make the multi-dimensional story flow easily. It just feels a bit messy, and ultimately unsatisfying, from a narrative standpoint.
A highlight is the visual presentation, and specifically the artistic spectacle. The CG is hit-or-miss, but I really enjoyed a few of the big sequences with dimension travel and the traditional neon light filled battles of the sorcerers and magic wielders. The movie is worth it just to see these parts, imo. At one point I thought I was watching Fantasia 2022.
The mid credits scene teased some future directions, and I guess it has me curious, but not as fired up as I would have expected, given that Dr. Strange is one of my favorite Avengers.
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