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ralphdibny

I managed to finally get the platinum in concrete genie last night. It's hard to find the moments and feature pages on a second run through and it's hard to use a guide for it because they are all written as if you didn't collect any moments or feature pages through out the game. I had to cross reference my note book pages with the find function in the Chrome browser to work out what I had left.

Hopefully I'll get on to the VR trophies today and then make a start on hitman.

LieutenantFatman

@ralphdibny
Nicely done, Concrete Genie is definitely a fun platinum. I picked up the latest Guilty Gear the other day, Rev 2. It's currently discounted from £35 to £1. Might be of interest. I've never played a GG game before but I've read they're meant to be very good.

LieutenantFatman

R1spam

@RogerRoger OK so I'm not competing for fastest time/highest score then!! I'm a noob to the hitman series and have played through the Paris level a couple of times, playing mission stories and though I have completed them (getting both targets with hidden kills etc) I'm only getting two/three star ratings. I'm playing on casual and will be for the foreseeable (if that makes a difference to the score). Any tips would be welcomed.

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ralphdibny

I've only ever played Hitman 2 on the gamecube before now. Great game though.

I remember trading it with my Biology teacher in secondary school. He lent me Ikaruga for GameCube. Unfortunately we had to trade back at the end of term though 😅. Ikaruga is obviously the more valuable of the two games!

@RogerRoger should be all good, I've set some time aside tonight to do them (including VR sickness recovery time 😂)

@LieutenantFatman same here, sorry my list of fighting games wasn't formatted in an easy to read manner! I also bought the 79p PS1 GG port too. But yeah just let me know when you got some time free to play GG2, might be good to go into the game blind if we both havent tried it yet

crimsontadpoles

That's some excellent advice from Roger. On top of that, I'll say not to worry too much about the score or obtaining Silent Assassin ranking when playing a level for the first time. They can be done later on when replaying levels.

First time around, it's best to just have fun and focus on the basics. Stealth is the important thing to worry about. Try to avoid getting spotted when knocking out people or moving bodies. It autosaves regularly, so you can reload easily if things go south. And coins are very useful for luring enemies somewhere quieter.

The Mission Stories that can be found are worth paying attention to. Usually they'll guide the player towards a good opportunity to eliminate a target.

ralphdibny

I've just tried out the PSVR mode of concrete genie so I would like to give some thoughts. I found this mode to be much better than the main game in terms of creation because you use the Move wands. It's so frustrating that you can't use half a DS4 and a move wand in the main game because that would be an ideal controller set up.

Luckily there's no movement in the VR portion, it's static and you use one wand to hold your notebook and one wand to hold your brush. So VR sickness will be limited and was for me so that's good. But yeah, well worth trying out. It's a short affair but nice to cap off the game in this way. I imagine if you were so inclined that it would offer you more of an outlet for creative designs.

Also @nessisonett it's way easier to draw junk in the VR mode. Content warning: NSFW links to Concrete Genie creations follow:

https://ibb.co/9TXfXBD
https://ibb.co/r7z666d
https://ibb.co/x7kwv35
https://ibb.co/sJXWRGg

R1spam

@RogerRoger thanks for that advice and for taking time to put that comprehensive post together, will keep all of that in mind. Have definitely tresspassed into areas by mistake and left the odd body (or 3) not stowed in a wardrobe/trunk etc. I'm not on hitman 3 yet, my copy is on its way (and I'm holding off starting sapienza till it arrives). I can see why you like the series so much though, I'm pretty hooked after my few playthroughs of the Paris level. @crimsontadpoles I've really enjoyed the mission stories I've played so far. There is a tongue in cheek humour to them and the voice acting is brilliant. There is something about agent 47s deadpan delivery that cracks me up

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nessisonett

@RogerRoger

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I managed to beat your score by the slightest of margins! I’ll put my method in spoiler tags just in case it gives too many hints!
I took coins as my only equipment and started as an A.V. Technician. Immediately grabbed the fireworks remote, took a CICADA guard’s disguise and stuffed him in a cupboard and distracted the guards at the stairs with a coin. I then ran out to the balcony, used the fireworks remote and chucked Dalia Margolis down onto Viktor Novikov. To escape, I slid down the pipe on the opposite balcony, went down into the basement and escaped in the cellar there.

I love Paris, it’s possibly my favourite level in the trilogy. The setting is just right, size wise, with plenty of disguises, routes, assassination methods, funny side characters and secrets. Plus who can forget some of those mission stories! It was great going back to it for another time.

Ok wow, I didn’t realise I was now 437th in the world. I assume there are separate leaderboards for Hitman 3 but I’m well chuffed with that!

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ralphdibny

I've done the prologue, I went to do all the challenges in the free play level but haven't yet in the final trial bit of it.

I guess I just press the campaign button now to start the story? Is it different to pressing each level individually?

I downloaded that legacy pack too, I don't think it's unlocked any additional content. That Patient zero level costs money to download so I won't do it.

But yeah, really enjoyed the prologue! I was thinking the game might be doable to a large extent based on the free play level challenges but then I saw the final trial challenges and some of them look impossible lol.

It's a shame those limited time contracts haven't been left in the game but I guess you can still watch the briefing video.

I really like the voice actor for 47, can't work out who he sounds like but it seems familiar. Maybe a hint of Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock in there.

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Th3solution

@ralphdibny I was going to say the same thing about loving the voice actor. In fact the whole Agent 47 mold and characterization is just so awesome. The voice sounds a little bit like the love-child of Solid Snake and Geralt. Deep and raspy. 😄

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

nessisonett

@ralphdibny @Th3solution It’s been the same voice actor for as long as I can remember. Definitely one of the underrated talents. He has a certain presence that conveys underlying menace while still being hilarious at times with his deadpan delivery. At times, it almost sounds like he’s delivering Bond-style one-liners!

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Trans rights are human rights.

Jaz007

Yeah, 47 sounds iconic. He's very well designed character. He's more entertaining than I thought he would be beforehand.
I played through the first game in a mix of VR and in regular mode, and it was a great game. I'm still playing Hitman, but I'm on the DLC of Hitman 2 now. I've just been playing in VR since I started Hitman 2 though, and it's been incredible. The scale and exploration of the levels in VR in a new level. One of my first VR levels was the final mission for Hitman 1, and I walked around for at least an hour sightseeing before I did anything assassin related. Any other VR players here? It's easily one of the best VR games out there.

Jaz007

nessisonett

@Jaz007 I played it for 20 minutes in VR and had to go lie down in a dark room. It’s incredibly impressive and great fun but oh man, the motion when running is stomach-churning.

Plumbing’s just Lego innit. Water Lego.

Trans rights are human rights.

ralphdibny

@Th3solution @nessisonett @Jaz007 @RogerRoger I don't know why they didn't get Bateson to play him in the movie, he already looks like the character 🤷‍♂️. Not that the game needs a movie or anything it's probably best they don't make any more but if they really had to and they really needed star power then I think Tom Hardy could probably do a decent job at it.

I can see partially why you might like the game Rog, I got some real James Bond vibes from the cut scenes in the prologue. More Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace vibes but Bond nonetheless!

Is the VR mode only available if you are playing the levels through Hitman 3? I couldn't see the option in Hitman 1

Th3solution

Was finally able to spend some time on the Paris level tonight. It’s so much bigger and more complex than the training level. It’s quite fun, but a little overwhelming. I wandered around for a long time just trying to get my bearings and figure out where I was allowed to go. It was a chore to find my first security guard alone enough to knock him out and proceed into more restricted areas. I finally chose to follow the thread whereby I got the male target (I forget his name) alone by arranging the meeting out in the garden, then I shoved him over the railing into the river below. Getting to lady target has proven much harder. In order to even get access upstairs I had to ditch all my weapons to be frisked and so now I don’t know what I’ll do. She’s never alone.
I do love how this game has liberal autosaves as well as manual saves anywhere. I’ve definitely reloaded an earlier checkpoint many times already.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

nessisonett

@Th3solution I’ll give you a couple of hints.

1. Use your coins. Those guards on the stairs can be fooled rather easily with a good coin toss.

2. Look for drainpipes. Sometimes the best way to get upstairs is to find a route along the balconies, this holds true across multiple levels.

Best of luck!

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Trans rights are human rights.

Th3solution

@nessisonett Thanks. I have tried the coins a few times with mixed success. Sometimes it’s tricky to get in a place where no one sees you throw them. 😅

I’ve gathered from my limited play time that there are triggers that will prompt the targets to move about to different areas? Or is it mostly time based? When I started following that one “opportunity” (I think they call it) then suddenly things started falling in place and NPCs seemed to follow a set path so I could accomplish that goal. That made things easier. With the second target, she’s just walking from room to room with her attendants endlessly, and I haven’t found any “opportunities” and am wondering how long should I wait for her to do something to help me out, like at least go to the bathroom or something where she’s alone. Is it just a matter of waiting long enough, or do I need to do something to trigger the game to make the NPC leave this endless loop of repeated activity?
I tried pulling a fire alarm to see what happens and all it seemed to do was make a horde of security descend down upon me and arrest me. 😂

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Th3solution

@RogerRoger Haha! Wow we have a knack for the simultaneous post, don’t we? 😂

Ok — I didn’t realize I can track an “opportunity”. I thought you had to stumble across it.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Th3solution

@RogerRoger Yeah, I got an “opportunity missed” message and then checked the menu and I think it was the one about impersonating someone and walking on the runway, (which sounds brilliant and I need to try to do that on one of these runs 😄) so that made sense I probably didn’t get there in time before the models started the show.

I do think I’ll try the tactic of following opportunities for a while, until I acclimate. I suppose it ruins some of the sandbox fun, but wandering around aimlessly also ruins it too.

It’s possible I’m too far along to take advantage of any more opportunities, I’ll have to see. I might just run up and choke the target in front of everyone and then just run for my life and see how that turns out 😂

Thanks for the tips by the way!

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“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

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