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oliverp

@LN78 Oh Twin Snakes is such a nice game. It was actually the first Metal Gear game I ever played and the game that basically introduced to the franchise. Love it so much! @kyleforrester87 Yeah exactly, I think I paid something in that range around that time. I think in part the nice box makes up for it, not speaking about the quality of the game itself hehe.

@RogerRoger thanks for the compliment appreciate it man.

oliverp

LN78

@oliverp @kyleforrester87 I've been doing some reading and according to a few articles, the discs in "Twin Snakes" are among those particularly susceptible to rot. Have either of you had problems with that? There are a couple on eBay that I'm tempted to bid on.

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kyleforrester87

@LN78 mine appears to be ok, if you want it you can just have it for the price of the postage, not like I am ever likely to play it again anyway.

kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

RogerRoger

@belmont Alas, having to tolerate poor treatment of female characters is par for the Metal Gear course, it would seem. Some games do fare better than others, of course, but I'm sorry to hear that The Twin Snakes (a game I've never played for myself) was prohibitive in this regard.

I'm opting for story blast playthroughs, too. I've only played Peace Walker once before, but remember it being a bit of a grind, so will brace myself accordingly. MGS4 is up next for me (I skipped ahead to Revengeance out of real life necessity). I'm debating whether to fold Portable Ops into my schedule, but I'm not sure I liked it all that much, so am on the fence about it. Maybe I'll see how long my Metal Gear mood holds out, and replay the games I definitely wanna replay first.

Alongside all this, I'm also playing the first Ac!d on-and-off (mostly off, if I'm honest).

Fair thoughts on Revengeance. Let's be honest, it was never gonna be for everybody! One thing I have noticed is that, if you remove an enemy's arms and legs and then let them fall without performing Zandatsu, then they don't count as kills, so you can earn "No Kills" score bonuses in almost every battle. It's a hideously morbid technicality though, and you absolutely must kill the bosses, no question, so I totally get why the gameplay isn't for you. Bravo for maintaining a non-lethal approach whenever possible!

"We want different things, Crosshair. That doesn't mean that we have to be enemies."

PSN: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

LN78

@kyleforrester87 That's incredibly kind of you but I'd rather you stuck it on eBay, mate. It's worth a fair few quid.

LN78

kyleforrester87

@LN78 no worries, offer is there if you want it - I don’t have any emotional attachment to it, don’t even have a working GameCube these days and I’d never get round to actually selling it!

kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

LN78

@kyleforrester87 You never know when a few extra pennies might come in handy (especially at the moment) and walking it into CEX will probably net you £30 or whatever in a pinch. I really appreciate the offer, though.

LN78

Gunnerzaurus

Much like others in this thread, I would be happy if the series was over, but MGS 1-4 were some combination of remastered/ported so they're playable on the PS5.

Right now MGS1-MGS4 are all lost to time as far as PS5 owners are concerned, and that's a shame.

Gunnerzaurus

PSN: Gunnerzaurus

kyleforrester87

I guess PS Now (err or whatever it’s called these days) is an option if you can deal with streaming. I am sure I saw MGS4 on there, anyway.

kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

belmont

@RogerRoger This freedom of how to play is what I like from the gameplay in the series. There are methods to break the games but there are many ways to approach them. So far I have managed a non-lethal play in all MGS games except MGS4 but only on easy difficulty settings.

I have some of emotional connection to Ac!d 1 since I got it with Ridge Racer and my PSP on the European release date and played it very much. I was a fan distraction and I used to break the game with the Running Man cards. The plot is a real MG plot with twists etc. but I never managed to replay it. The second game is more of the same. Good games but nothing very special.

On the other hand, I really like Portable Ops even though the fans sort of hate it because it was not 100% written by H.K. who said that the main plot happened but not every detail. I find the story very cool, Gene is an actual threat, I liked young Colonel and Grey Fox. Big Boss' leadership qualities were shown. Sokolov returned who disappeared from Snake Eater randomly without explanation and we had a very cool battle with the very first Metal Gear.

You can say a lot of H.K. but I think that how the women are shown in his games are not his strong point. In Snatcher and Policenauts you can casually harass women with no consequences. In Twin Snakes Meryl is shown as the worst woman in distress, the whole concept of Quiet nonsense in TPP seems like a H.K. joke. And the whole concept of the Boss' will is not well explained. EDIT: I forgot Paz, the worst example of those. Snake thinks she is underage and yet there is a bizarre scene in the beach with those two in Peace Walker.

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RogerRoger

@belmont You're right about that. I'm still finding new possibilities and hidden details after all these years, and reckon it's great when a series can maintain that level of inventiveness. I think of things like all the different ways to deal with The End in MGS3 and it just boggles the mind.

Cool, I can totally see how Ac!d would mean so much to you, then! I've heard some folks say that the sequel is an improvement, so I'll end up giving it a shot regardless.

Now that you mention it, I do remember liking Campbell's involvement in Portable Ops. I might not play it in the proper sequence, but I reckon I'll definitely end up giving it another go (provided my PSP doesn't die on me during the Ac!d games, of course). I'm glad you liked it as much as you did. I certainly never hated it before; I think it just fell in an awkward position when I was playing through the entire series from start to finish, as I was still reeling from MGS3 and wanted to get to MGS4.

Yeah, it's a real shame that we have to endure all that cringeworthy crap in order to enjoy the series. It'll cause outcry but, if we are about to see a bunch of remakes, I really hope that changes are made for the better, and that the female characters get treated with the respect they deserve (because on paper, almost all of them have interesting storylines and development arcs that'd work if written properly).

"We want different things, Crosshair. That doesn't mean that we have to be enemies."

PSN: GDS_2421
Making It So Since 1987

LN78

@belmont I saw this earlier having just read what you wrote about the versatility of the gameplay in "MGS" . It's pretty amusing - especially the choice of song!

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LN78

Thrillho

God, MGS1 was just so good wasn’t it?

What was awesome was that it came out in the era where game demos were a massive thing and were pretty sizeable too with this one letting you play all the way up to crawling inside the first hangar. I must have replayed it so many times before actually getting the game.

And that opening was so cinematic too from the underwater entrance through to the credits rolling as you went in the lift and then the “title screen” as you hit the top.

Thrillho

LN78

@Thrillho Did you have the demo that came with "ISS Pro '98"?

LN78

Thrillho

@LN78 Nope, it would’ve been from the Official PlayStation Magazine.

Edit: probably this one (not my image sadly)

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kyleforrester87

I spent hours and hours in Ground Zeros, PP in comparison was almost a bit too big. I'd say I enjoyed GZ more, overall, funnily enough.

MGS1, back then I actually borrowed a pirated copy of the American version off a friend - I had to play it in black and white, without being able to check the back of the box for Meryl's frequency. I'm not sure how I did that bit to be honest.. guess my friend told me. I know I completed it though.

kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

LN78

@Thrillho I miss OPM. I remember that there was an "MGS2" demo disc with one of the "Zone of the Enders" games and some people were buying the game just for the demo!

LN78

Mr_B021

@kyleforrester87 MGS4 was on PS now, but unfortunately was removed from the service in 2022 and has not reappeared on PS+.

Mr_B021

PSN: Mr_B021

Mr_B021

@Thrillho that demo is one of my favourite childhood gaming memories. I got the disc from a friend who didn’t like it. My brother and I played it a lot. Same with the tanker demo of MGS2.

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Mr_B021

PSN: Mr_B021

JohnnyShoulder

@LN78 Yep, that would be me. I did play Zone of the Enders, but didn't really enjoy that much. I probably played the demo way more.

Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

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