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Judal27

@themightyant is the atk a little too much? I read online that sometimes stats have a cap and going beyond that adds nothing. Just wondering if I ever run into a good relic with a lot of crit dmg, I could sacrifice some of that atk. And still be good to go

I really don't lol. It was only about 2 days ago that I finally hit some decent gear for her. And she's about the only one I can confidently say is properly built 😭. All of my other characters I feel like they need major work

I'm using the pioneer set and I thankfully managed to get her LC before the banner ended. It was pure torture grinding companion missions and mini games for a week straight. But so worth it. Her LC is too good. And her stats would be worse off without it

Judal27

themightyant

@Judal27 I haven't theory crafted it and I don't know if the ATK stat tails off or stays a good multiplier but I do know Crit is usually more important for total damage, so if you can swap some ATK for crit that may help, there are several HSR calculators online that can give you a more definitive result.

I was going off Prydwen's Recommended endgame stats which are:

  • HP: 2800-3000+
  • DEF: 800+
  • ATK: 2900-3200+
  • CRIT RATE: 80-90%+
  • CRIT DMG: 160-180%+
  • SPD: 101 or 134+

But these are often unrealistically high imo.

Out of interest who are you using as supports? And in normal content what are the largest total damage numbers you see at the end of her Ultimate for example?

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Judal27

@themightyant oof my atk is way above that lol. I'll experiment with a few different pieces if I ever get some. Since I just used atk pieces for all of her relics. I have some speed shoes I'd like to try on her

I have black swan, silver wolf, and gepard with her. And the dmg depends. In groups, it's around 300k. For a solo boss around 150k

Judal27

themightyant

@Judal27 Nice. My Acheron is far worse than yours, just starting still farming relics but my supports are pretty strong (Pela, SW & flex 4th slot). I typically hit around 80 - 120k single target. But groups i've seen it get as high as 400k which blows all my other built characters out the water. But that is rare, it varies and more typically can be 150 - 300k. I think the Pela group debuff is elevating that considerably, but at the cost of Black Swan who actually does damage herself.

themightyant

Judal27

@themightyant acheron has got to be the most busted character ever. But I definitely still need to work on my SW. I havent been able to use her bis set because the temp break set I have for her rn has way better substats and still have all of her abilities at 6/10. And im also working on pela. I got her to e5, they say she's perfect for acheron so might as well test her out. Do the Def debuffs between her and SW stack?

@Shigurui ok I just really worry about how good my substats are and how much better they could be 😭. But geez do those dmg numbers come from her e2? Cause 500k is like SU numbers lol. Also btw do you have BS's LC?

Judal27

Judal27

@Shigurui ah ok, I really wish I had that eyes of prey lc it seems like her best 4* cone. Is s5 GNSW better than Solitary Healing ? SH is the one i have on her. The 36% increased dot dealt seems pretty good. But I hardly see anyone recommend it for her

I'm also considering giving her SW's cone (if its ideal) which I really just got on a whim. I hadn't intended on playing this in the long run so I just rolled for fun during SW's run and got both her and her cone. I appreciate her i do, but she's really only there now to debuff and build acheron stacks now 😅. Swan is working more like a sub dps while still building stacks so I'm trying to make her as strong as I'm able

Judal27

Judal27

@Shigurui or her sig. Which is what I really want. But seeing as Robin, Firefly, and jade are all coming soon. I'm probably gonna avoid reruns 😂

Judal27

z0d15g0d

You guys had a look at the anniversary event site that quiz you on your performance yet? looks like my highest damage is 1,046,753. From the moment I got Luocha looks like he's been my main lol.

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z0d15g0d

themightyant

@Shigurui Link is here. FYI It has my wish invite code, so I might get a reward for sharing, I think you can all share yours here too and we can help each other out.

Seems i've played 141 of 142 days since I started. - They really do have me by the balls don't they
Tingyun is my most deployed character generally (maxed out the 999 times in the first month) and Lynx is the last two months (my only decent healer)

My trailblaze power has been spent on

  • 49.44% on Calyx
  • 17.05% on Simulated Universe (1517 SU relics & 56 completions, most used Abundance)
  • 15.92% on Caverns of Corrosion (2560 cavern relics)
  • 13.35% on Stagnant Shadow
  • 4.24% on Echoes of war
    Now I have characters ascended I need to spend more farming relics

My highest damage is 880,082 which was likely in Simulated Universe with some of those silly multipliers. I wish they had this separately.

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themightyant

z0d15g0d

@Shigurui The link is in your in-game inbox so it will show all your stats for your account. I'm farming for jingliu today and managed to get a head piece with CR,CD,SPD & ATK% didn't think i'd ever get that lol

z0d15g0d

themightyant

z0d15g0d wrote:

managed to get a head piece with CR,CD,SPD & ATK% didn't think i'd ever get that lol

Congratulations. Don't think I will EVER get that. lol. What sub-stats did it roll into?

I've been farming Pioneer Diver of Dead Waters for the last week or so (hopefully for both Acheron and Jingliu) and have got almost nothing. Best piece was a Crit Dmg body but only has ATK% substat and rolled into flat DEF and HP. FML

Fingers crossed the 3x event will net me something, but today I got nada.

themightyant

z0d15g0d

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z0d15g0d

z0d15g0d

@themightyant it was for Hunter of Glacial Forest. I'll be farming that and Pioneer to see which suits Jingliu best.
Fu Xuan rerun next hope I have enough jades as Robin and Boothill also look like they will be great additions to my roster.

z0d15g0d

z0d15g0d

@Shigurui Awesome damage stats. Shame it doesn't say which team we used to achieve it. I'd like to know if it was just my guys and who or if it was with a support character.

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themightyant

@z0d15g0d What a day for free Stellar Jade. 1600 free in the mail (+ 10 fuel), 300 from the showcase, 180 from the anniversary event quiz. 2080 extra free.

Robin's Ultimate allows ALL allies to immediately take action as well as buffs all allies ATK. Off the top that seems incredibly OP. But they then limit her actions for a while. Going to be interesting to see how they balance this out or if she just power creeps older characters.

themightyant

z0d15g0d

@themightyant lol my thoughts exactly. They're making Robin into a harmony beast. when she uses her skill and ult every time an ally attacks she gains energy so she may be able to spam ults with energy regen rope.

From the showcase it looks like the 2.2 boss will have imaginary weakness so now I'm tempted to pull for Aventurine as the boss minions focus on a single ally and knowing my luck it will be supports as always.

z0d15g0d

z0d15g0d

We need a new abundance with revive as Bailu is useless

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themightyant

@z0d15g0d So I went on Honey hunter world to look at Robin's leaked kit. Spoilers below. (Though I wish I hadn't as I saw another spoiler I wished I hadn't!) I don't think she can spam ults, see below.

Her Talent increases all Allies CD by 20% (at Lv 10) and when allies attack enemies she regains 2 energy. (Her Ult is expensive at 160)

Her skill increases all allies DMG by 62.5% lasing 3 of Robin's turns. Her A6 Trace regains her 5 energy when she uses her skill.

When she enters her ultimate (as well as allowing all allies to act) she enters the "Concerto" state whish (at Lv 10) will increase all allies ATK by 22.8% of Robin's ATK + 200 (she's an ATK scaling character with ATK% on her Traces). Moveover after every attack by allies Robin will deal additional Physical DMG equal to 120% of her ATK 1 time, the CR is set at 100% and CD at 150%.

Additionally when in Concerto state robin is immune to crowd control debuffs but she cannot enter her turn or take action. Instead a concerto countdown appears on the Action Order bar with a FIXED speed of 90, once the countdown ends she can act again.

Her A4 Trace adds 25% CD to allies launching follow up attacks while she is in the Concerto state. This combined with her energy restore on allies attacks probably means she is best with follow up attackers.

For whales they've also added some pretty great Eidolons.

E1 - While in Concerto state all allie All-type RES Pen is up by 24% when they attack
E2 - Increases her talents CD boost by 16% (36% total at Lv 10) and adds 1 more Energy for every ally attack (3 energy per attack)
E4 - When she uses her Ult dispels all CC Debuffs from all allies (this seems broken) AND increases the Effect Res of all allies by 50% when in Concerto state.
E6 - While in Concerto the fixed CD of her additional Physical damage attacks increases to 450% (from fixed 150%) this can be triggered up to 8 times per ult.

So they seem to have deliberately limited how often she can use her Ult, we will have to see if it's broken or not in game.

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themightyant

z0d15g0d

@themightyant Lmao E6 is insane. They defo appealing to their whales. You're right looks like they took extra measures to ensure her ult can't be spammed. We will see what Tingyun has to say about that lol. Does concerto fully prevent her from taking action or is it just a delay? And how long is the countdown? Can in be disrupted with Bronya or Sparkle?

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