At this point in time the PlayStation Classic has become a better punching bag than Glass Joe, so it’s no surprise that forum dwellers are frothing at the mouth over a Tweet which claims the micro-console has dozens of other great games on it. The reality is that there are simply references to them in the source code, meaning they were potentially tested at some point.
Here's the full lineup, as taken from a since deleted tweet:
The titles do peek at an even better PS Classic, though, and show just how cool the mini-system could have been with a larger game selection. Among the inclusions are Crash Bandicoot, PaRappa the Rapper, Tomba!, and Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2. The reality is that a lot of these games would have never got through licensing – Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone, for example.
It shows just how vast the PSone’s library was, though – there are 36 games referenced here and they all could have easily made the micro-console’s catalogue. Pair that with the 20 already included and the dozens upon dozens entirely absent and you have the platform for an absolutely mammoth mini-device. The problem is the licensing and the fact that the more software you add the more the product will cost.
[source twitter.com]
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Still hoping the modding community can sort all these problems out in the not too distant future.
The tweet has been deleted. But 36 more games fit in the 16GB internal HDD?
i was playing Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone on my yesterday actually
just goes to show that having a "classic" is no replacement for actually having the proper console
plus with a AV to HDMI adapter they play pretty well on modern TV's
If it would have included those games along with a Tomb Raider game I would have been all over this PS mini.
@belmont Unlikely.
Makes a lot more sense that various iterations of the lineup went through the testing process.
@munkondi I think you'll find that licensing dictated the lineup more than anything else. It's why you still won't find WipEout 2097 and plenty of other PS1 games on PSN; or they'll be available in certain regions but not others, or playable on a PSP but not Vita or PSTV.
Found the list. It has Crash 2, Tomb Raider 1,2, Driver, Silent Hill, EHRGEIZ, GTA2, Tomba, Street Fighter A3, Fighting Force, Parasite EVE, Klonoa, Midieval, Gran Turismo, G Darious, Gradius, Soul reaver, Mega Man Legends, Medal of Honor, Ridge Racer 1, Suikoden (!!!!), Vargand Story and others.
Most of them are more "classics" than the final games.
@munkondi you're right, the licensing and the implementation are two separate issues which thankfully you can differentiate. It's clear that others are not able to do so but it is sad at how badly the ps classic has been botched. I guess the only defence could be that no one has attempted a micro 32 bit console prior to the ps classic and the nes/snes mini came on the back end of numerous 8/16 bit Retro consoles but even that argument doesn't hold water. I dare say Sony has some damage control ahead of them...
Argh what a console that would have been if even half of these made the cut.
@hi_drnick @munkondi
Think you've kind of missed the point of the post. A better lineup would've sold more consoles regardless of the actual reviews.
We're all aware of what a mess the console is in. It's not the hardware - it's more than capable; it is just a lazy, thoughtless software mash.
Since the tweet was deleted, here’s the full list of pre installed games that are blocked.
Chocobo’s Mysterious Dungeon
Colin McRae Rally
Crash Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot 2
Toy Story 2
Driver
Ehrgeiz
Fighting Force
Gran Turismo
GTA 2
Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone
Kagero
Klonoa
Kula World
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Medal of Honor
MediEvil
Mega Man Legends
Mr. Driller G
Paca Paca Passion
PaRappa the Rapper
Parasite Eve
RayStorm
Ridge Racer
Silent Hill
Spec Ops: Stealth Patrol
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha
Suikoden
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2
Tomba
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2
Vagrant Story
Wild Arms 2
Xevious 3D/G+
I picked one up the other day as I had it preordered. Not sure if I’ll keep it or gift it.
Probably depends on the modding scene.
Will buy when you can hack it like the Snes mini
Sony why was there not crash and Spyro and this looks like a quick buck well at least no Vita memory card.
And now Nintendo had beat you in two markets classic consoles and handhelds
It's a shame, they could have done a much better job with this and easily made it a far more desirable product. I think quick cash grab sounds accurate unfortunately.
An absolute crime that Kula World was cut from the final roster.
@andrew20 I doubt Activision would have approved Crash and Spyro when there are the remakes they want people to buy.
Such an unfortunate missed opportunity. Was just in a gamestop and the had about 20 of them just sitting on the floor. Asked the guy working there about them and he said about 10 didn't even come in to pickup their preorder. Yikes. Almost bit on it but just don't want to go through hassle of modding it to make it a worthy purchase. Really wish it would have turned out better.
@Jriibz hey look at this, someone on the internet with a sensible suggestion instead of complaining about everything
Okay, sony should remove rainbox six, 2D gta, 2D rayman, destruction derby, and add tomb raider 1 & 2, klonoa, soul reaver, parasite eve, suikoden, sf alpha 3, and wild arm 2, then I'll buy psone classic.
@Jriibz Or psvita, you can never go wrong with portable psone
Lots of ruffled feathers on both sides of this it seems like. I brought my popcorn!
Man if THESE were part of it, I would have bought the thing.
No cyberspeed and no epidemic? C'mon sony.
Kula world omg i forgt that game its sooo 90's and Colin Mcrae rally what a game probably the best racing game you could get in the 90's
No games like In the Hunt, Metal Slug X or Pepsiman kill the classic console for me
All it needed was Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, RE 1, 2, 3, Tomb Raider 1, 2, Gran Turismo, Silent Hill, Twisted Metal 2, Destruction Derby 2 and one of the Street Fighter Alphas and I probably would've bought one of these. The one thing that would stop me is that the PS3 makes for a very good 'PS1 Classic' itself with most of the PS1 games I love available there. A shame Sony, like Nintendo, has gone away from what it was doing with retro releases in the PS3 and original Wii era.
@roe yea, but even the emulator is pretty terrible, meaning performance will be spotty with the addition of new iso's... the hackers will need to overwrite the emulator and replace it with something else entirely...
I would’ve bought it for PE alone! Such a missed opportunity!
Was let down by the official release, so it fell off my radar pretty soon after the games were announced!
Probably not a solution for most people - but there is an officially licensed alternative to the PlayStation Classic. It's a lesser known piece of hardware Sony released called PlayStation TV. It is a little black box that hooks up to your TV, smaller than the Classic. It hooks up via HDMI and can play PS Vita, PSP, and yes, PS1 classics released on the PSN store.
The PS TV uses the built in emulation used by the PSP and PSVita, so the games run really well (in general). It retailed at exactly the same price as the PlayStation Classic I believe.
Most if not all those games listed in this article are compatible. Sony has released hundreds of PS1 games on PSN. So yeah, Xenogears, FFIX, whatever.
The catch? It has a Vita card slot for Vita games, but everything else has to be digital. Meaning you have to buy the games individually or have already purchased them on PSP, PS3, or PS Vita digitally. PS1 games run at $6-10 a pop.
However! I'd wager most have received a bunch of PS1 games in their catalogue through PS+ back in the day. They used to release regularly through the service. I have easily more games than the Classic shipped with hiding in my catalogue, and good ones too. I find the "they cant license that" argument odd because these games have already released digitally.
Anyways like I said, not a solution for many, but a nifty advantage is the inclusion of PSP and the underappreciated Vita as well. Hope this helps.
Oh, I forgot to mention it uses the DualShock 3 or 4 as a controller. So another big plus there.
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