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KratosMD

@Jaz007 I played the PS1 version of MGS on PS3 and I had a great experience with it, it has aged very well. Twin Snakes introduced a first-person view for the game, which means that you'd be playing the game differently than how it was designed to be played (i.e. a top-down view). So if you don't mind that then Twin Snakes would be the way to go if you have a Gamecube or a Wii, otherwise the PS1 version is still great.

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

Tasuki

@Jaz007 Also keep in mind that the Game Cube version goes for a higher price the the PS One version. A used copy could go anywherr from $50 at it's cheapest while the PS One goes for less then $20.

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Jaz007

I found a copy for about $30. So I'm not that concerned about the price.

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LuckyLand

They are making a standalone game of The forgotten city!

This is one of the best adventures I have ever played, I strongly recommend it!

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Jaz007

So does The Metal Gear Solid HD collection include the orginal MGS for the PS1? I have a PS1 disc(s) for it, but it's given me enough trouble I'm gonna return it. I've read it does, but I'm not sure in what form, if MGS is getting confused with "Metal Gear", or if it's a download code, since I'd be getting used wouldn't work very well.

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Kidfried

@Jaz007 Metal Gear Solid HD Collection here in the West doesn't include MGS1.

HD Collection features: 2, 3, Peace Walker and MG1 and MG2.

Wind's howling.

RogerRoger

@Jaz007 As @Kidfried notes, it doesn't, but if you're dusting off your PS3 to play the HD Collection then Metal Gear Solid is available to download to that console as a PSone Classic.

Currently it's $9.99 but I imagine it pops up in a few sales.

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Cpt. Jean-Luc Picard, Stardate: 42923.4

Tasuki

@Jaz007 @Kidfried It did come to the West indeed but was a download code so getting with a used copy is probably not going to be the case as the code probably was already used.

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Jaz007

@Tasuki Dang, Amazon carries new copies for $5 more than Gamestop used but I already bought MGS off PSN for $10. Oh well, I'll live with losing a couple dollars. Thanks for clearing that up.

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KratosMD

So I just saw an online retailer that sells second-hand games receive a copy of Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver on PS1 for €20 and I've heard a lot of great things about it from you guys but also from other people in general. However, when reading some reviews for the game, I've heard multiple individuals mention that the controls have aged poorly and this criticism seems to be consistent among most people. So I want to know, how poor are the controls for this game and should I get it for €20?

I recently bought Tomb Raider II and while I found the game to be fun, the controls are a strong discouragement for me simply because the game requires you to act fast sometimes and doing that with these controls is simply not optimal. So while I do have some patience with PS1 games that have poor controls, if the game requires fast inputs in numerous occasions, then I might not find the game to my liking (if this is the case, that is). I can also see now that Soul Reaver is made by the same developer as the Tomb Raider games on PS1. How worried should I be?

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

KALofKRYPTON

@KratosMD It's a lot more spritely feeling that Tomb Raider as I recall, but it's been a long time.

You could probably get it cheaper than 20euro though.

Also, if you have a Dreamcast - buy that version instead.

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KratosMD

@KALofKRYPTON I don't have a Dreamcast so PS1 is my only option. But in that case, I think I might just skip this game altogether, since I don't want to buy more games that I'll end up not playing.

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

KALofKRYPTON

@KratosMD Or PC? It's only £5 on Steam!

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KratosMD

@KALofKRYPTON I only have a MacBook sadly.

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

KratosMD

@KALofKRYPTON So since you are our resident PS1 expert, I'd like some advice regarding a few PS1 games that have arrived at my local online retailer, namely Syphon Filter 1 and 2, if you don't mind. Have you by any chance played them and do you think they're worth buying?

The first game is €10 (which is the cheapest I've seen it go for) and the second one is €15. I'm considering picking both of them up since I've heard they're quite amazing games. I haven't heard as much negativity about the controls on PS1 as with the Eidos games that we've recently talked about. And since they came out rather late in the system's life cycle, both games support analog controls, which makes me think that the games should feel good to play even though they're almost 20 years old.

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Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

KALofKRYPTON

@KratosMD Ha!

I'd say @RogerRoger is probably more au fait with the Syphon Filter series. I played through the first and the second, but didn't hang on to them.

Enjoyed them both though, and they are well regarded.

10 and 15 are good prices for good PS1 games in good condition.

PSN: KALofKRYPTON (so you can see how often I don't play anything!)

Twitter: @KALofKRYPTON (at your own risk, I don't care if you're offended)

"Fate: Protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise." - Cmdr William T. Riker

KratosMD

@KALofKRYPTON After I had written to you, I remembered that I had bought a digital copy of the first game on PS3, so I decided to give it a go. The game has aged surprisingly well and it's a very fun game. But one thing that has completely deterred me from buying it physically is the frequent 'mission failures' you get whenever you don't save a civilian. Like, I'm entering a room and I only see enemies, so I go around trying to take them out one by one. Then I suddenly get a mission failure. Why? Because a civilian was hiding behind a pillar as I was entering the room, and he got killed within a couple of seconds and I had no idea because I didn't see him. Then the game started me from the latest checkpoint, which was minutes ago.

So yeah, I'm not going to bother with that crap. Having to constantly watch out for civilians and backtracking for minutes when getting a mission failure are things that completely ruin what is otherwise a fundamentally fun game.

Best games as voted by the PushSquare community:
PS1: Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Tomb Raider II

KALofKRYPTON

@KratosMD It's like you don't even care about the civilians!

How about Die Hard Trilogy? The Nakatomi Plaza level has far less annoying civilians!

PSN: KALofKRYPTON (so you can see how often I don't play anything!)

Twitter: @KALofKRYPTON (at your own risk, I don't care if you're offended)

"Fate: Protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise." - Cmdr William T. Riker

RogerRoger

@KALofKRYPTON ...you rang?

@KratosMD Civilians only show up in a handful of levels throughout the original PSone trilogy. It's fair if they put you off progressing completely, but if you can struggle through the levels in which they're present, there are some incredible experiences to be had. As somebody who grew up endlessly replaying the Bond games (in which it's an instant game over if you harm a civilian, under any circumstances, and it's not just a checkpoint restart, but a whole mission restart) I don't recall having any major problems with protecting civilians in Syphon Filter, but then it's been a while. I think they're less frequent in the two sequels, which are the games I've played the most of.

Generally speaking, however, I do remember having to restart many checkpoints or levels a good couple times before getting the hang of them, so I understand your frustrations. Insert your standard "it was a different time" comments here, and so forth.

In the very best moments, Syphon Filter can be the perfect lovechild of Metal Gear Solid's atmosphere and stealth, and James Bond's cheesy plots and overblown action, with a healthy dose of generic late 80s / early 90s Hollywood action movie elements, too. Like all games of that era, you have to learn how it wants to be played (you made similar comments about Tomb Raider II and learning to slow your impulses down a little in order to progress) but when you do, it really works.

Personally, I'd say Syphon Filter 2 is the best. I've been meaning to give the entire trilogy a replay for a while now, and your comments have bumped it up my to-do list, so thanks. The two PSP games, Dark Mirror and Logan's Shadow, are also excellent.

You can skip Omega Strain on PS2, though. Didn't get along with that game at all.

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Cpt. Jean-Luc Picard, Stardate: 42923.4

KALofKRYPTON

@KratosMD See?

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