ecurb7

Not sure what commenters on here are getting so upset about. PS5 came out in November 2020, meaning it's over 3 years old, and will be hitting its 4 year anniversary later on. Which ever way you cut it, it is coming up to the midway point in its life cycle.

Personally, I've had a great time with it over that period. Yes, there should have been more PS5 only games, but there is a good number: Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, Spiderman 2 etc. Plus, cross-gen games usually run at higher frame rates and resolution.

Even so, I can't wait for a new iteration - PS5 Pro or PS6. Four years is a long time in technology terms, and many people don't bat an eyelid at spending at least the price of a games console on a new phone much more frequently. The PS5 will still be supported for many years to come, but for those who can afford it, a new machine that supports at least 60fps and 4K on all games as standard can't come soon enough.

@zekepliskin

Not sure how you can criticise the PS4 for being 'sluggish' with a straight face while touting the virtues of PS3. Try syncing trophies or accessing the PS store on PS3, the very definitions of sluggish!

It's one thing to be deliberately contrary to try to get attention, but trying to claim in 2023 that PS3 is better than PS4 or PS5 is really pushing it ... I've been a playstation gamer since PS1, and there's no way I'd go back to the pre-PS4/5 eras. Time to stop living in the past!

I've played every ps console since ps1, and whenever I bought a third-party controller (for 1 and 2), it was always a substandard, compromised piece of tech. So, since ps3, I've always stuck with official ones.

Point being .... it's generally a false economy to buy a cheap knock-off alternative, and I don't really mind Sony (or Microsoft or Nintendo) being protective of their controller tech. If you're able to splash out £300-400 on a console, it's almost always worth paying (or saving up) for official peripherals.

@Member_the_game

Fair enough - have fun playing them then!

@Member_the_game

Funny, I've been playing since the 1980s, too.
But still ... you must've heard of the Plague Tales games, at least? I haven't played any of the three games either - so I dont know if they're good or bad - but Plague Tale (and Evil West) are fairly well known.

@Member_the_game

Seriously?!? Have you only just started playing video games or something?

@naruball Glad you enjoy them, but both Age of Magic and Mirrorverse are pretty egregious at trying to squeeze money out players. Like so many mobile games that seem fun for a few hours, you quickly hit the point where you have to start spending real money, either to avoid tedious grinding, or simply to progress. This is why most gamers hate on mobile games.

Every so often, I've tried getting into mobile games as well, but the decent ones always start bludgeoning you around the head with demands for money in one way or another

I've been amazed at how good the portal actually is - no one needs it, but if you want it, go for it! I assumed it would only be good for puzzle and turn-based sorts of games, but the proper dualsense controllers and nice, large screen make it pretty viable for action games as well (if you have a decent router an WiFi connection). I don't think you want to be using it for competitive multiplayer (there's always going to be some lag), but I've been loving my second playthrough of Dead Space in bed and on the couch.

@Mreeezie "more like they would be saying my wife isn't beautiful enough, while she is."

Pics or didn't happen

I once heard rumours of someone actually buying an Xbox, but when I assembled a crack team to investigate, it turned out to be just another wild goose chase. Time to go back to hunting yetis or the Loch Ness monster, more chance of a real sighting!

@DaniPooo OK, I'm slightly bored now, so final comment ... I just think you don't understand how this all works, but have a nice rest of your day!

@DaniPooo OK, now I see your misunderstanding. Buying digital may bypass the 5% or so of the physical costs, but it doesn't bypass the seller's markup! It's either Gamestop or Sony who add that extra 25% (in truth, Sony adds 30%, I don't know the exact figure for GameStop, I simply used this for illustration).

@DaniPooo With physical, it is GameStop (or whoever) taking their percentage ... with digital it is Sony (or whoever) taking their percentage. In both cases, the rest is taken by the game's publisher (who will get most of the price). Not sure who you mean is the 'reseller' - either Sony or GameStop is the seller.

As I indicated, both Sony and GameStop add a percentage, that's where their profits come from. Physical or digital doesn't fundamentally alter how capitalism works.

@DaniPooo And ...? You know how capitalism works, right? A retailer stocks items from a manufacturer, adds their own markup (let's say ... 25%) and that's where they get their profits, minus costs. I just don't know how more simply I could explain this.

@chrichtonsworld All I can suggest is that you Google the cost of physical games media - you'll soon see that discs, packaging etc. represent only a small % of a game's sticker price. In the days of CDs and DVDs, this was obviously more significant for music and movies, since they were relatively cheaper items. But for a game that is £60-£70 (in the UK, or whatever your equivalent is), it is only going to be 5, at most 10, percent.

@chrichtonsworld Denial about what? 95% of an average game's costs come from development, overheads, marketing etc. Digital is a little cheaper, sure, I never denied this - but the mode of delivery (physical or digital) really has very little to do with why you pay the price you do for a game.

@DaniPooo Now you've completely lost me. I never said anyone produces physical games for free - physical discs and packaging cost very little, but the bulk of the cost of a game is from its development (and marketing etc.). But I have no idea what any of this has to do with GameStop, they don't make games, they sell them

@bluesylvanite OK... you know it's not my lawsuit? Tell all that to the complainants!

@DaniPooo Probably, but that's true regardless of whether individual games are sold physically or digitally. My point stands, which is that digital gaming is not inherently significantly cheaper - most of the cost of games is from development, salaries etc. not the means of delivery.

@bluesylvanite Yes, I think that's all true as well. But the lawsuit is aimed at Sony specifically, so it is presumably trying to hold them responsible for all pricing on the PS Store. Regardless, there's nothing illegal about how Sony, or other publishers, price their games - we (including me) may not like paying up to £70, but that's a different matter.

@DaniPooo Well, even running a digital storefront, hosting downloads etc. costs Sony some money. So, maybe they should be giving us, I don't know, a 3% discount? That would be nice, I guess, but people are still simply wrong to assume that digital automatically means much cheaper.

@DaniPooo OK, but the whole cost of physical v digital is a bit of a red herring. Manufacturing and distribution of physical discs accounts for only about 5% of a game's costs - so about £3.50 of a £70 game. In other words, it doesn't really make much of a difference.

An utterly absurd and frivolous lawsuit.
Here's the point: the price of video games is not a legal, or even a moral, issue. If Sony decided to charge £1000 for a game, that is their right as the service provider - and it is my right as a consumer to decide whether or not to pay this; which, obviously, I would not.
What next, suing Cartier because their watches cost tens of thousands of pounds, which most people can't afford? Or Rolls Royce, etc. etc.?
Personally, I can't afford to spend £60-70 on new games, which is why I never do. But if I started suing every company whose products I couldn't afford, I'd never be out of court.