@Neonix What games struggle to hit 60fps on the Pro? Even with some disappointing quote unquote upgrades, I haven't really seen not hitting 60fps be an issue ever. It's usually a graphical issue of PSSR implementation.
@Perryg92 If I'm not mistaken, that's also how it normally works on PS5. You can stream compatible games from your physical library but you still gotta put the disc in
@Slippship Lol. What? Steam deck is definitely the better performing device. Plus most PS5 games you can play on steam deck. @Fillem You technically don't need another device for the portal but you have to pay for the highest tier of ps+ for that feature
@PuppetMaster The question was obviously rhetorical, since I gave a thorough explanation immediately after saying it. Good for you that it's easier to find wherever you are but I'm telling you that it's not that easy to find where I'm located. Seeing as how North America is almost always the biggest consumer of physical video games, that feels like a much better metric than your "knowledge" for how limited the number of copies were actually produced.
The less expensive used copies in my region are usually $45 - $55 USD, which is not cheap for an almost decade-old release. Even then it's usually in a generic case with no artwork, or sometimes no case at all. Oftentimes even a used copy will sell for more if it's "complete in box". A sealed copy goes for $70 - $100 USD or sometimes even higher, like I already told you.
@PuppetMaster Thanks for an article about the collector's edition lol? That doesn't prove it was the only rare copy of that game. Have you researched this at all? I wasn't lying about the price being this high for a long time. Everything I've looked up suggests that at least in North America, GR Remastered has been pretty rare since 2017, which is not that long after it released. It had a limited print. That's obviously why there's so few in circulation & why even used copies frequently are sold for higher than the price of a new game today. It wasn't up for debate, dunno why you were so sure you were right lmao. "No." 😂🤡😂
Also, I didn't mean that the game was literally not advertised. I was admittedly a late adopter of these systems, I got my PS4 in 2017 & my Vita even later around 2020. I saw the trailers after eventually getting the games but even getting my PS4 in the same year the second game came out, I barely even heard people talk about them until I got my Vita, since the original is arguably one of the best games to play on that system.
This is the very first time I've heard of Overture, thanks for sharing that link! Genuinely!
@PuppetMaster Didn't Sony famously make a very limited print of physicals for GR Remastered & GR2? It's like $100 for a copy of either of those today, they're so rare compared to other first party games. They've actually been being upsold like that online for years now. Also while physical gaming is still important to some people, I think it was way bigger 8 or 9 years ago, with practically zero marketing (at least I cannot recall a single ad for either at the time) they kinda put the IP to bed all by themselves in my opinion. Hard to blame anyone for not taking notice when Sony barely cared in the first place, it's like they were spiteful over the first game not selling better on Vita.
@Northern_munkey @Sarcasmatwork For buying games on sale. Obviously lol, since some people are interested in playing more than two games. The wishlist is more for games you don't plan on getting immediately. That's why I have games in my amazon wishlist as well, it seems fairly self explanatory as opposed to going through the hundreds of games every time I get some cash to blow & I want a new game
A few comments saying "Duh because Game Pass", even though the article literally says Expedition 33 & Oblivion Remastered are also on there but they have much better numbers than Doom Dark Ages. It's like people ignore the parts they don't wanna hear lol
@lazarus11 Oh nice! You're clearly taking your time, I like to play games like that too. But on average most gamers only take 30 hours to beat the entire campaign (if they don't do extras)
Good news as long as they took their time and actually tested this sh*t. Can't believe so many game devs put in the "effort" to do a pro patch when the result was worse than base PS5 performance. I'm glad I never personally bought a pro but it still sucks for the hardcore fans who wanted a premium experience are kinda getting shafted
@nomither6 I'll agree to that, I think gow2 was a low point for the mainline games. Like I said tho, hopefully it's something else cause it would be weird for Chris Judge to have stirred the pot and get defensive when people assume it's a remake/remaster or new gow.
@Lavishturtle Did you even read the article or did you just come here to let everyone know how cool you are for disliking a video game? (Don't answer please because it's obvious) The subject of this article is literally about how the game isn't a failure, it has decent sales numbers.
@Juanalf I mean, he said it isn't going to be "our" gow, it would be surprising if it was gonna be anything to do with older games after saying that. Seeing as how almost all the games were made by the same dev team.
@RawnDawn Mostly I've been seeing Lego fans say the game is pretty boring and repetitive, specifically gameplay-wise I've been seeing people say it's extremely simple.
It's kinda funny that almost all the reviews for this game were for PS5, as I suspect (like with most multi plat releases) that Switch will get the highest units sold. I could be wrong but I seriously doubt most of the standard Horizon fanbase would want to play this. The tone for that series is pretty drab and I imagine it's the complete opposite for a Lego game.
@Matroska I almost commented something similar as well. It's even made by the same dev team as the original three BT, it's practically Budokai Tenkaichi 4 in every way.
@UnlimitedSevens I did not own a PS3 so I didn't know that! I heard about that doom release as well. Disappointing stuff. My point I guess was I'm aware it happens, but it's extremely rare so it was confusing that multiple people assumed it would be. Sorry for the late reply, I think I meant to weeks ago but forgot to hit the button!
@Bentleyma I'm pretty sure most games that aren't Sony tend to struggle with this exact thing in their respective performance modes on base PS5. Therefore pretty sure this is the exact reason PS5 Pro is even a thing.
Really confused whenever anyone automatically assumes a physical game release is a code in a box. Can't even recall if or when the last time Sony has ever done this, even Nintendo does this very rarely.
Absolutely ridiculous. Waited about half an hour to get one of the controllers, and it literally wouldn't even let me add it to the cart even though it was still available. What a waste of time
I'm already so overwhelmed with this game, it's hard to imagine jumping into BG2 in this engine.. I knew the mods would mean big things but I might have miscalculated the scope of what this could mean with a big dedicated community o:
@TrickyDicky99 Hm I think you might wanna look up who the director, lead designer, lead programmer, and lead art design for those games are... I also seen in the wiki that the writer for Arkham Asylum was a producer for SSKTJL.
I know there's probably lots of the newer staff that weren't part of Asylum, but it's safe to say that it's not shocking why people were expecting more.
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Re: Valve's Steam Machine May Not Be As Affordable As a PS5
@Neonix What games struggle to hit 60fps on the Pro? Even with some disappointing quote unquote upgrades, I haven't really seen not hitting 60fps be an issue ever. It's usually a graphical issue of PSSR implementation.
Re: $100 Off PS5 Consoles, PSVR2 for Black Friday 2025
@DonkeyFantasy Pretty sure that's 135 off, not 200.
Re: Hands On: PS Portal Is a Whole New Device with Cloud Streaming Update
@Perryg92 If I'm not mistaken, that's also how it normally works on PS5. You can stream compatible games from your physical library but you still gotta put the disc in
Re: PS Portal Still a Huge Success as Sony Reportedly Preps PS6 Handheld
@Slippship Lol. What? Steam deck is definitely the better performing device. Plus most PS5 games you can play on steam deck. @Fillem You technically don't need another device for the portal but you have to pay for the highest tier of ps+ for that feature
Re: Of Course the Next Step for Cyberpunk: Edgerunners Is Sexy Body Pillows
@get2sammyb "via the official CD Projekt Red merch store."
Re: Talking Point: Sony's Investing in Anime, But Why Isn't PlayStation Leading the Charge?
@PuppetMaster The question was obviously rhetorical, since I gave a thorough explanation immediately after saying it. Good for you that it's easier to find wherever you are but I'm telling you that it's not that easy to find where I'm located. Seeing as how North America is almost always the biggest consumer of physical video games, that feels like a much better metric than your "knowledge" for how limited the number of copies were actually produced.
The less expensive used copies in my region are usually $45 - $55 USD, which is not cheap for an almost decade-old release. Even then it's usually in a generic case with no artwork, or sometimes no case at all. Oftentimes even a used copy will sell for more if it's "complete in box". A sealed copy goes for $70 - $100 USD or sometimes even higher, like I already told you.
Re: Talking Point: Sony's Investing in Anime, But Why Isn't PlayStation Leading the Charge?
@PuppetMaster Thanks for an article about the collector's edition lol? That doesn't prove it was the only rare copy of that game. Have you researched this at all? I wasn't lying about the price being this high for a long time. Everything I've looked up suggests that at least in North America, GR Remastered has been pretty rare since 2017, which is not that long after it released. It had a limited print. That's obviously why there's so few in circulation & why even used copies frequently are sold for higher than the price of a new game today. It wasn't up for debate, dunno why you were so sure you were right lmao. "No." 😂🤡😂
Also, I didn't mean that the game was literally not advertised. I was admittedly a late adopter of these systems, I got my PS4 in 2017 & my Vita even later around 2020. I saw the trailers after eventually getting the games but even getting my PS4 in the same year the second game came out, I barely even heard people talk about them until I got my Vita, since the original is arguably one of the best games to play on that system.
This is the very first time I've heard of Overture, thanks for sharing that link! Genuinely!
Re: Talking Point: Sony's Investing in Anime, But Why Isn't PlayStation Leading the Charge?
@PuppetMaster Didn't Sony famously make a very limited print of physicals for GR Remastered & GR2? It's like $100 for a copy of either of those today, they're so rare compared to other first party games. They've actually been being upsold like that online for years now. Also while physical gaming is still important to some people, I think it was way bigger 8 or 9 years ago, with practically zero marketing (at least I cannot recall a single ad for either at the time) they kinda put the IP to bed all by themselves in my opinion. Hard to blame anyone for not taking notice when Sony barely cared in the first place, it's like they were spiteful over the first game not selling better on Vita.
Re: Sony Buffed PS5's Wishlist, But It's Been Broken for Weeks Now
@Northern_munkey @Sarcasmatwork For buying games on sale. Obviously lol, since some people are interested in playing more than two games. The wishlist is more for games you don't plan on getting immediately. That's why I have games in my amazon wishlist as well, it seems fairly self explanatory as opposed to going through the hundreds of games every time I get some cash to blow & I want a new game
Re: Inquiry Already Underway Over Lacklustre DOOM: The Dark Ages Opening
A few comments saying "Duh because Game Pass", even though the article literally says Expedition 33 & Oblivion Remastered are also on there but they have much better numbers than Doom Dark Ages. It's like people ignore the parts they don't wanna hear lol
Re: The Midnight Walk (PSVR2) - Dark, Melancholic, and Hauntingly Beautiful
@old_gamer74 I mean.. it's a stealth fps, I think people like those even without VR. It's kinda up to you if you wanna play with or without it
Re: Expedition 33 Is Increasing in Popularity with Each Successive Week
@lazarus11 Oh nice! You're clearly taking your time, I like to play games like that too. But on average most gamers only take 30 hours to beat the entire campaign (if they don't do extras)
Re: Expedition 33 Is Increasing in Popularity with Each Successive Week
@lazarus11 Pretty sure it's only like 25 - 30 hours, maybe you'll hit 60 if you want to do everything possible
Re: PS5 Pro Update on Its Way to Black Myth: Wukong, Arriving Tomorrow
Good news as long as they took their time and actually tested this sh*t. Can't believe so many game devs put in the "effort" to do a pro patch when the result was worse than base PS5 performance. I'm glad I never personally bought a pro but it still sucks for the hardcore fans who wanted a premium experience are kinda getting shafted
Re: Kratos Voice Actor Denies Multiple God of War Announcements
@nomither6 I'll agree to that, I think gow2 was a low point for the mainline games. Like I said tho, hopefully it's something else cause it would be weird for Chris Judge to have stirred the pot and get defensive when people assume it's a remake/remaster or new gow.
Re: Analyst Says Dragon Age: The Veilguard Had a Good, But Not a Great Launch
@Lavishturtle Did you even read the article or did you just come here to let everyone know how cool you are for disliking a video game? (Don't answer please because it's obvious) The subject of this article is literally about how the game isn't a failure, it has decent sales numbers.
Re: Kratos Actor Chris Judge Is Seemingly Teasing Multiple God of War Announcements
@Juanalf I mean, he said it isn't going to be "our" gow, it would be surprising if it was gonna be anything to do with older games after saying that. Seeing as how almost all the games were made by the same dev team.
Re: Sony's Latest First-Party Release Is Struggling to Do Concord Numbers on PC
@RawnDawn Mostly I've been seeing Lego fans say the game is pretty boring and repetitive, specifically gameplay-wise I've been seeing people say it's extremely simple.
It's kinda funny that almost all the reviews for this game were for PS5, as I suspect (like with most multi plat releases) that Switch will get the highest units sold. I could be wrong but I seriously doubt most of the standard Horizon fanbase would want to play this. The tone for that series is pretty drab and I imagine it's the complete opposite for a Lego game.
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero Is the Most Successful Dragon Ball Game Ever in the US
@rjejr Why did you assume this series was for handhelds?
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero Is the Most Successful Dragon Ball Game Ever in the US
@Matroska I almost commented something similar as well. It's even made by the same dev team as the original three BT, it's practically Budokai Tenkaichi 4 in every way.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Physical Version Now Official, PS5 Disc Included
@UnlimitedSevens I did not own a PS3 so I didn't know that! I heard about that doom release as well. Disappointing stuff. My point I guess was I'm aware it happens, but it's extremely rare so it was confusing that multiple people assumed it would be. Sorry for the late reply, I think I meant to weeks ago but forgot to hit the button!
Re: Hands On: PS Plus Cloud Streaming Is a Game Changer for PS Portal
@FleetCasual Oh, I see haha it's all good.
Re: Hands On: PS Plus Cloud Streaming Is a Game Changer for PS Portal
@Mikey856 After the update it made me sign in again. It then instructs you to go into your settings to activate the streaming beta
Re: Hands On: PS Plus Cloud Streaming Is a Game Changer for PS Portal
@FleetCasual Haha is this a joke? That's always been like the main feature of the portal
Re: This Is Your Last Chance to Order PSVR's Free PS Camera Adaptor for PS5
@tameshiyaku Yeah how dare they report on a new Playstation console on the Playstation news site
Re: Larian Studios Confirms Baldur's Gate 3's PS5 Pro Enhancements
@Bentleyma I'm pretty sure most games that aren't Sony tend to struggle with this exact thing in their respective performance modes on base PS5. Therefore pretty sure this is the exact reason PS5 Pro is even a thing.
Re: PS5 Pro Adds Ray Tracing to Alan Wake 2 in Big Tech Improvement
@Futureshark Your tv definitely supports 2.1. You'll see the enhancements if you get a pro.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Physical Version Now Official, PS5 Disc Included
Really confused whenever anyone automatically assumes a physical game release is a code in a box. Can't even recall if or when the last time Sony has ever done this, even Nintendo does this very rarely.
Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners Most Horrifying Moment Could Be Yours for $300
@Gewertzx She was created by Studio Trigger, they're Japanese
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Absolutely ridiculous. Waited about half an hour to get one of the controllers, and it literally wouldn't even let me add it to the cart even though it was still available. What a waste of time
Re: Palworld's Release in Japan on Hold Indefinitely Thanks to Nintendo Lawsuit
@RubyCarbuncle Oh it's okay, forgive my misunderstanding.
Re: Palworld's Release in Japan on Hold Indefinitely Thanks to Nintendo Lawsuit
@RubyCarbuncle But the article is about how Palworld isn't releasing on PS5 in Japan...
Re: Palworld's Release in Japan on Hold Indefinitely Thanks to Nintendo Lawsuit
@RubyCarbuncle ...What? Nintendo and Pocketpair are both Japanese lol
Re: Baldur's Gate 3's First Custom Maps Portend Endless D&D Adventure
I'm already so overwhelmed with this game, it's hard to imagine jumping into BG2 in this engine.. I knew the mods would mean big things but I might have miscalculated the scope of what this could mean with a big dedicated community o:
Re: Players Take the Easy Way Out in Pursuit of Concord's Coveted Platinum Trophy
This is kinda fitting but disturbing
Re: Suicide Squad Studio Hit with Layoffs After Poor Sales
@TrickyDicky99 Hm I think you might wanna look up who the director, lead designer, lead programmer, and lead art design for those games are... I also seen in the wiki that the writer for Arkham Asylum was a producer for SSKTJL.
I know there's probably lots of the newer staff that weren't part of Asylum, but it's safe to say that it's not shocking why people were expecting more.
Re: Showa American Story Reveals Texan Governor's Majestic Body Hair
@PerpetualBoredom What "extremely misinformed" comment were you referring to??