@Vil fair point, but that's at the sacrifice of their current gen offerings GREATLY suffering. It's much easier to remedy lesser offerings than it is to capitalize on new innovations. I'm sure we can all agree on that.
@trev666 some people just can be pleased. Name one issue in your lives or otherwise that was able to be improved instantly. Anyone who knows what it takes to better themselves understands that it's a gradual process focusing on one problem at a time. Just wow.
@Stormageddon where does this "it should be free" mentality come from? They're a business. Would you give out free product and expect to thrive if you had your own business. They made it available on Plus for long enough for those who adopted early to experience it.
@Darude84 one had to expect that as that system was initially designed to reward the early adoptors of the PS5. Now that stock supply issues are addressed it makes sense to do away with the system. To be fair it's been almost 3 years that those games were available on Plus.
@Nepp67 that's such a weird viewpoint given that those games don't make up their ENTIRE gaming library. You're right though, perhaps Sony should ignore the most profitable genre of gaming especially once you factor in rising development costs. You guys should be happy that they're aiming to create more avenues to create more revenue. More revenue, more games...don't see a problem.
@DaveSimonH you are aware that Sony just made console history with the PS5 outpacing even the Switch, right? While I understand mitigating expenses, it is a gross miscalculation to project the same limits onto other people. There are those who are willing and those who are not willing to afford entertainment. This fact has always been a factor no matter what era you choose throughout history. People are in different places within the economic structure and those in a more affluent position don't often frequent gaming sites. Their absence tends to warp the status quo given that their perspective isn't often explored. Sony's smart enough to understand that price increases were necessary to weather the unwelcoming climate of this economic downturn. As you are witnessing volume is down but revenue is up, that's all that matters.
@General_Mike wholeheartedly agree. I love gaming more than anything so there's no price I won't pay to support its sustainability. Having a 3DO, Neo Geo, or N64 at their heights you saw games priced above $200 with the N64 being the lowest at 74.99. I've notice that people who complain about pricing also have other potentially unhealthy vices like drinking, smoking, or worse that cost them way more while bringing no real benefit to them. To each their own.
Listen, there is global economic crisis going on and for those affected there's going to be cut backs. Alternatively, there are those in places where the economy doesn't affect their buying power. Sony is a multi billion dollar corporation who has to affectively navigate through an assortment of challenges. Knowing that their overall revenue could be affected in certain regions, they raised prices so that those of us who do buy on day 1 can make up for those who can't or are not willing. It doesn't matter overall because revenues are up, meaning that the choice to raise prices was the correct move no matter who it may offend. From every game on launch, the Edge Controllers, and PSVR2, this has been the best year in gaming since the PS2 era for me.
For those who don't see the point of paying full price, remember your employer pays you the same hourly rate no matter if your production rate meets projections or not. Imagine a world where employers can augment your pay based on productivity. A lot of people in the workforce are prepatch, perhaps employers should pay you less until your flaws are patched out as well. Maybe they can wait for a sale on employment too...you see how asinine that sounds when applied in a way that affects your pockets? Many complain when companies pine for cheaper labor and are labeled as demons of the industry.
@tallythwack Porsche, Jaguar, and BMW are my poisons. I purchased the HT-A9 because it was made to directly compliment the other A9 series devices. Furthermore, I've never known an electronic that was upward of $3-10k that wasn't considered high-end. What do I know though. You're doubt doesn't affect my bottom line, BTW, but it's cute that you'd share.
I was stating that Sony's approach to marketing mirrors that of companies like: Bentley, Rolls Royce, Porsche, Ferrari, and Maserati. There are no commercials needed when you are confident in your ability to deliver. If there's a commercial, personally, I don't buy it. Advertisements are solely geared to convince you not to inform you. They work on who they work on. Sony's lack of ads hasn't stopped me from researching or buying anything from them.🤷🏾♂️
@tallythwack "foolish", "moronic" you're on quite the roll there, champ. If it's either of those labels to allow a company that has a proven track record and consistent results to function as they please; I'll wear them both proudly. What am I? Some do nothing that has to be spoonfed information in order to learn? Sorry, sir, but making and spending as much as I do both requires one to stay well informed. This is my limited understanding at play, though. To be fair, it's not that important to me knowing that of the 700+ games there might be only 10-15 I don't already own.
@tallythwack arrogance is an overstatement of ability and condescending. When I go to look at a Porsche I'm not met with sweaty greasy salespeople looking to make a buck; I encounter people confident in knowing that they're there if I need them. That's what Sony reminds me of.
@BeerIsAwesome being an owner of several Sony products including: PS5, A90J, and HT-A9 Surround Sound. I've seen that Sony markets to only the hard-core, who research anyway. How many people are spending upward of $4k for TVs outside of those already in the know? How many casuals are going to see a Bravia Master Series commercial and run out to get one? Sony doesn't waste the money on ads so that they can keep pushing the envelope in tech. I truly appreciate that, personally.
@johncalmc Sony just has a "if you want it, it's there" approach to things, which is very refreshing. I get tired of hearing about GP everywhere I look, comes off as very desperate.
@rawzeku that's because it's only an option not a lifeline. We'll see plenty advertisements on the console, trust me. Also, the PS has a very hard-core community so those who are supporting it will definitely seek out the info.
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Re: PS5 Firmware Update Has Fixed an Overlooked PS4 Backwards Compatibility Issue
The lack of gratitude is alarming.
Re: PS5 Firmware Update Has Fixed an Overlooked PS4 Backwards Compatibility Issue
@Vil fair point, but that's at the sacrifice of their current gen offerings GREATLY suffering. It's much easier to remedy lesser offerings than it is to capitalize on new innovations. I'm sure we can all agree on that.
Re: PS5 Firmware Update Has Fixed an Overlooked PS4 Backwards Compatibility Issue
@trev666 some people just can be pleased. Name one issue in your lives or otherwise that was able to be improved instantly. Anyone who knows what it takes to better themselves understands that it's a gradual process focusing on one problem at a time. Just wow.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Finally Gets Standalone Release on PS5
@Stormageddon where does this "it should be free" mentality come from? They're a business. Would you give out free product and expect to thrive if you had your own business. They made it available on Plus for long enough for those who adopted early to experience it.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered Finally Gets Standalone Release on PS5
@Darude84 one had to expect that as that system was initially designed to reward the early adoptors of the PS5. Now that stock supply issues are addressed it makes sense to do away with the system. To be fair it's been almost 3 years that those games were available on Plus.
Re: Sony: We're Not Just Creating 10 Live Service Destiny or Fortnite Games
@Nepp67 that's such a weird viewpoint given that those games don't make up their ENTIRE gaming library. You're right though, perhaps Sony should ignore the most profitable genre of gaming especially once you factor in rising development costs. You guys should be happy that they're aiming to create more avenues to create more revenue. More revenue, more games...don't see a problem.
Re: $70 Games Could Be Hurting PS5, PS4 Sales, But There's More to the Story
@DaveSimonH you are aware that Sony just made console history with the PS5 outpacing even the Switch, right? While I understand mitigating expenses, it is a gross miscalculation to project the same limits onto other people. There are those who are willing and those who are not willing to afford entertainment. This fact has always been a factor no matter what era you choose throughout history. People are in different places within the economic structure and those in a more affluent position don't often frequent gaming sites. Their absence tends to warp the status quo given that their perspective isn't often explored. Sony's smart enough to understand that price increases were necessary to weather the unwelcoming climate of this economic downturn. As you are witnessing volume is down but revenue is up, that's all that matters.
Re: $70 Games Could Be Hurting PS5, PS4 Sales, But There's More to the Story
@General_Mike wholeheartedly agree. I love gaming more than anything so there's no price I won't pay to support its sustainability. Having a 3DO, Neo Geo, or N64 at their heights you saw games priced above $200 with the N64 being the lowest at 74.99. I've notice that people who complain about pricing also have other potentially unhealthy vices like drinking, smoking, or worse that cost them way more while bringing no real benefit to them. To each their own.
Re: $70 Games Could Be Hurting PS5, PS4 Sales, But There's More to the Story
@sanderson72 why do you say the PS Store is a rip off?
Re: $70 Games Could Be Hurting PS5, PS4 Sales, But There's More to the Story
Listen, there is global economic crisis going on and for those affected there's going to be cut backs. Alternatively, there are those in places where the economy doesn't affect their buying power. Sony is a multi billion dollar corporation who has to affectively navigate through an assortment of challenges. Knowing that their overall revenue could be affected in certain regions, they raised prices so that those of us who do buy on day 1 can make up for those who can't or are not willing. It doesn't matter overall because revenues are up, meaning that the choice to raise prices was the correct move no matter who it may offend. From every game on launch, the Edge Controllers, and PSVR2, this has been the best year in gaming since the PS2 era for me.
For those who don't see the point of paying full price, remember your employer pays you the same hourly rate no matter if your production rate meets projections or not. Imagine a world where employers can augment your pay based on productivity. A lot of people in the workforce are prepatch, perhaps employers should pay you less until your flaws are patched out as well. Maybe they can wait for a sale on employment too...you see how asinine that sounds when applied in a way that affects your pockets? Many complain when companies pine for cheaper labor and are labeled as demons of the industry.
Re: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion's PS5, PS4 Remaster Is Jaw Dropping
Been waiting to play this for years since it was never released on the Vita. Glad it's getting that PS5 love now.
Re: Reminder: PS Plus Extra, Premium Launch in North America Today
@tallythwack Porsche, Jaguar, and BMW are my poisons. I purchased the HT-A9 because it was made to directly compliment the other A9 series devices. Furthermore, I've never known an electronic that was upward of $3-10k that wasn't considered high-end. What do I know though. You're doubt doesn't affect my bottom line, BTW, but it's cute that you'd share.
I was stating that Sony's approach to marketing mirrors that of companies like: Bentley, Rolls Royce, Porsche, Ferrari, and Maserati. There are no commercials needed when you are confident in your ability to deliver. If there's a commercial, personally, I don't buy it. Advertisements are solely geared to convince you not to inform you. They work on who they work on. Sony's lack of ads hasn't stopped me from researching or buying anything from them.🤷🏾♂️
Re: Reminder: PS Plus Extra, Premium Launch in North America Today
@tallythwack "foolish", "moronic" you're on quite the roll there, champ. If it's either of those labels to allow a company that has a proven track record and consistent results to function as they please; I'll wear them both proudly. What am I? Some do nothing that has to be spoonfed information in order to learn? Sorry, sir, but making and spending as much as I do both requires one to stay well informed. This is my limited understanding at play, though. To be fair, it's not that important to me knowing that of the 700+ games there might be only 10-15 I don't already own.
Re: Reminder: PS Plus Extra, Premium Launch in North America Today
@tallythwack arrogance is an overstatement of ability and condescending. When I go to look at a Porsche I'm not met with sweaty greasy salespeople looking to make a buck; I encounter people confident in knowing that they're there if I need them. That's what Sony reminds me of.
Re: Reminder: PS Plus Extra, Premium Launch in North America Today
@nomither6 not sure what you're saying that they suck at.
Re: Reminder: PS Plus Extra, Premium Launch in North America Today
@BeerIsAwesome being an owner of several Sony products including: PS5, A90J, and HT-A9 Surround Sound. I've seen that Sony markets to only the hard-core, who research anyway. How many people are spending upward of $4k for TVs outside of those already in the know? How many casuals are going to see a Bravia Master Series commercial and run out to get one? Sony doesn't waste the money on ads so that they can keep pushing the envelope in tech. I truly appreciate that, personally.
Re: Reminder: PS Plus Extra, Premium Launch in North America Today
@johncalmc Sony just has a "if you want it, it's there" approach to things, which is very refreshing. I get tired of hearing about GP everywhere I look, comes off as very desperate.
Re: Reminder: PS Plus Extra, Premium Launch in North America Today
@rawzeku that's because it's only an option not a lifeline. We'll see plenty advertisements on the console, trust me. Also, the PS has a very hard-core community so those who are supporting it will definitely seek out the info.
Re: Reaction: PS Plus’ Revamp Is Hours Away, But Sony Still Has a Game Pass Problem
@Deadhunter I mean you could have played those games without GP by buying them. I did.😁